Breaking News - UN peacekeepers kill each other in Kosovo

[SerbPVO]

Two people are dead, and six hurt in Kosovoska Mitrovica, after a clash between UN police from Muslim countries and UN police from USA.

One US policewoman is reported to be in critical condition,.

More to come.

[Herrmannek]

Source?

[UkrainianAmerican]

Two people are dead, and six hurt in Kosovoska Mitrovica, after a clash between UN police from Muslim countries and UN police from USA.

One US policewoman is reported to be in critical condition,.

More to come.
I bet its the Muslim UN police fault.

[SerbPVO]

According to KFOR, the attacker, a UN policeman from Pakistan, has been killed. The shoot-out lasted 10 minutes.

[Mr Gently Benevolent]

Several Wounded in U.N. Police Shootout in Kosovo
Sat Apr 17, 2004 12:07 PM ET

By Shaban Buza

KOSOVSKA MITROVICA, Serbia and Montenegero (*******) - A dispute over Iraq led to a shootout on Saturday in the Kosovo town of Mitrovica between several American and one Pakistani U.N. police officers in which several officers were wounded and some may have died, U.N. police sources said.

Another report said Jordanian police were involved in the shooting, which broke out at a prison in the U.N. compound in the northern Kosovo town.

"This afternoon at the Mitrovica detention center there was a shooting incident involving international policemen," U.N. police spokesman Neeraj Singh told *******.

"Some international police officers were injured...there may be fatalities," he added.

The deputy director at the health center in Mitrovica, Milan Ivanovic, told reporters a female American officer, critically injured in the shootout, had died. He said he was treating several other prison officers for gunshot wounds.

Singh declined to give the number of injured, or of any dead or to disclose the nationalities involved. Asked about the cause of the incident, Singh said: "That is a matter of investigation ...and the situation now is stable and under control."

Media reports citing a variety of sources said up to four U.N. police officers may have been killed. One report said two lay covered by white sheets inside the U.N. compound.

A ******* witness close to the scene saw a female U.S. police officer lying motionless on the ground, covered by a coat.


www.*******.com

[SerbPVO]

First report was on B92, Serbian media.

Now, BBC is reporting it too - so far, only little info:(


UN police hurt in Kosovo shooting

UN police officers have been wounded in a shootout near a prison in northern Kosovo, UN officials say.
"The incident involved international police officers. There may be fatalities," a UN police spokesman was quoted as saying by AP news agency.

Unconfirmed reports say an American UN policewoman was killed and six injured.

It is unclear what caused the shootout in the town of Mitrovica, which was the scene of ethnic violence between Serbs and ethnic Albanians in March.

[Herrmannek]

**** :(

[SerbPVO]

Ironic, isn't it?

RIP, brave US police woman:(

[RATKO]

A dispute over Iraq led to shootout between several US and Arab UN police officers

[Soulhunter]

from Skynews:


UN POLICE OFFICERS SHOT DEAD: REPORT

At least two international police officers have been killed in a shootout at a prison in northern Kosovo, a UN spokesman says.

At least five others were injured in the firefight, which appears to have occurred when UN police officers started shooting at each other.

Neeraj Singh, the spokesman for the UN police, confirmed that two international officers were killed as a result of the shootout.

He would not disclose their nationalities.

Serb and international sources in the city told The Associated Press that the UN police officers started shooting at each other and that the shootout lasted for about 10 minutes.

The information could not be immediately confirmed.

[SerbPVO]

Arabs and Americans killing each other over Iraq in the heart of Serbia.
It would be funny, it wasn't so sad.

[SerbPVO]

Tanjug, Serbia's news agency, now says:


TANJUG: POGINULA TROJICA JORDANSKIH I JEDAN AMERIČKI POLICAJAC
DRUŠTVO - Subota, April 17, 2004 16:47 RTS

Četiri osobe poginule su u sukobu američkih i jordanskih policijskih snaga koje
obezbedjuju zatvor u severnom delu Kosovske Mitrovice, saznaje Tanjug od
izvora bliskih UNMIK-u.

U pucnjavi koja se čula nešto posle 15 sati u krugu zatvora, poginula su trojica
Jordanaca i jedna Amerikanka, svi pripadnici medjunarodnih policijskih snaga,
rekao je Tanjugu isti izvor.

Sedam medjunarodnih policajaca prevezeno je oko 16 sati u bolnicu u severnom
delu Kosovske Mitrovice.Prema rečima zamenika direktora mitrovačke bolnice
Milana Ivanovića, pet policajaca je teško povredjeno, a jedna policajka je u
veoma kritičnom stanju i lekari pokušavaju da joj spasu život. Sedmi policajac
koji je dovezen u bolnicu lakše je povredjen, kazao je Ivanović.

U delu grada gde se nalazi zatvor primetno je pojačano prisustvo UNMIK
policajaca, kao i uznemirenost srpskog stanovništva.

Agencija Fonet javlja da je dvoje policajaca Ujedinjenih nacija poginulo u dvorištu
Okružnog zatvora u severnom delu Kosovske Mitrovice, tokom medjusobnog
oružanog obračuna u kojem je ranjeno šest osoba.

U sukobu, prema svemu sudeći, američkih policajaca sa kolegama iz islamskih
zemalja, poginula je jedna Amerikanka, navodi Fonet. Kfor je, kako prenosi ta
agencija potvrdio da je poginuo i jedan pakistanski policajac.


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Three Jordanians and one American killed in firefight in Kosovo!
KFOR spokesperson earlier confirmed a Pakistani policeman also died.

Reports range between two and seven killed.

[Khabbi]

why is it ironic ?

RIP

[UkrainianAmerican]

Tanjug, Serbia's news agency, now says:


TANJUG: POGINULA TROJICA JORDANSKIH I JEDAN AMERIČKI POLICAJAC
DRUŠTVO - Subota, April 17, 2004 16:47 RTS

Četiri osobe poginule su u sukobu američkih i jordanskih policijskih snaga koje
obezbedjuju zatvor u severnom delu Kosovske Mitrovice, saznaje Tanjug od
izvora bliskih UNMIK-u.

U pucnjavi koja se čula nešto posle 15 sati u krugu zatvora, poginula su trojica
Jordanaca i jedna Amerikanka, svi pripadnici medjunarodnih policijskih snaga,
rekao je Tanjugu isti izvor.

Sedam medjunarodnih policajaca prevezeno je oko 16 sati u bolnicu u severnom
delu Kosovske Mitrovice.Prema rečima zamenika direktora mitrovačke bolnice
Milana Ivanovića, pet policajaca je teško povredjeno, a jedna policajka je u
veoma kritičnom stanju i lekari pokušavaju da joj spasu život. Sedmi policajac
koji je dovezen u bolnicu lakše je povredjen, kazao je Ivanović.

U delu grada gde se nalazi zatvor primetno je pojačano prisustvo UNMIK
policajaca, kao i uznemirenost srpskog stanovništva.

Agencija Fonet javlja da je dvoje policajaca Ujedinjenih nacija poginulo u dvorištu
Okružnog zatvora u severnom delu Kosovske Mitrovice, tokom medjusobnog
oružanog obračuna u kojem je ranjeno šest osoba.

U sukobu, prema svemu sudeći, američkih policajaca sa kolegama iz islamskih
zemalja, poginula je jedna Amerikanka, navodi Fonet. Kfor je, kako prenosi ta
agencija potvrdio da je poginuo i jedan pakistanski policajac.


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Three Jordanians and one American killed in firefight in Kosovo!
Fcuking Jordanians.

[RATKO]

ne budi zlurad

[Romulus]

A dispute over Iraq led to a shootout on Saturday in the Kosovo town of Mitrovica between several American and one Pakistani U.N. police officers in which several officers were wounded and some may have died, U.N. police sources said.

Another report said Jordanian police were involved in the shooting, which broke out at a prison in the U.N. compound in the northern Kosovo town.

For some reason, I'm not really suprised. RIP to the woman who died.

[HELEX]

Damn, thats really bad.... :(

[Mr Gently Benevolent]

F*cking shame, I feel sorry for all the dead in this incident.

[Damian]

RIP brave woman
Fuc**** arabs

[mustamato]

RIP brave woman
Fuc**** arabs

And you don´t think that the Americans somehow might have provoced them?

But still, this is a "wtf happened" type of incident.

[weedman]

RIP, UN Police Officers, no matter where you from. :(

[UkrainianAmerican]

RIP brave woman
Fuc**** arabs

And you don´t think that the Americans somehow might have provoced them?

But still, this is a "wtf happened" type of incident.
Americans dont kill people who happen to have a different POV.

[weedman]

Americans dont kill people who happen to have a different POV...you know every single American?

Great :lol:

[SerbPVO]

Latest update:

The second US policewoman, who was seriously injured and was taken to the Kosovska Mitrovica hospital, has succumbed to her injuries:(

[UkrainianAmerican]

Americans dont kill people who happen to have a different POV...you know every single American?

Great :lol:
i know thed culture.

[Kriz]

Americans dont kill people who happen to have a different POV...you know every single American?

Great :lol:
i know thed culture.

But not the language apparently ;)

[weedman]

Americans dont kill people who happen to have a different POV...you know every single American?

Great :lol:
i know thed culture.You know the words "to differentiate" and "prejudice" :lol:

[Javehn]

****ing great . Soon enough the Jordanian officials would claim that the shooter was menthally sick . We happened something like that in my place (only this time Jordanian soldier shoot 7 young girls to death , and Jordanians claimed that the soldiers is crazy ) .

****ing great . Take my word on it .

[Alpha Leader]

:(
As an former UN soldier ,this makes me very sad.
But it seems that the hate between islamic people and others are so strong that people in the same job kills each other.And thats when the job is to resovle "peace and togehternes" and working for the same goal.

Its just a sad,sad day. :(

[UkrainianAmerican]

Americans dont kill people who happen to have a different POV...you know every single American?

Great :lol:
i know thed culture.

But not the language apparently ;)
Well enough to get 620 on my English SAT (not great, but good enough)

[cut]

Americans dont kill people who happen to have a different POV.

yes they do, they go to war over it.

[UkrainianAmerican]

Americans dont kill people who happen to have a different POV.

yes they do, they go to war over it.
:bash:

[SerbPVO]

What the...?

This is older news, but a new detail:


"An American policewoman with the United Nations force in Kosovo was killed on Saturday and four U.S. policewomen were badly wounded in a shootout, said to be with Jordanian police, after a dispute about Iraq, a hospital official said.

So one US policewoman dead, and four badly wounded.
It was just reported that another one succumbed to her injuries.

Why are these Arabs killing woman? WTF?!!

[cut]

Americans dont kill people who happen to have a different POV.

yes they do, they go to war over it.
:bash:

that's war boils down to, if you think the world is really devided into good and bad, you still have some growing up to do.

[ibstolidude]

U.N. Police Die in Kosovo Prison Shootout
10 minutes ago

By NEBOJSA MARKOVIC, Associated Press Writer

KOSOVSKA MITROVICA, Serbia-Montenegro - A shootout at a prison in Kosovo killed at least two international police officers and injured several others, a U.N. spokesman said. An American policewoman was among the dead, a Serb doctor said.

Serb and international sources in the city told The Associated Press that the U.N. police officers started shooting at each other and that the shootout lasted for about 10 minutes. The information could not be immediately confirmed.

Four Jordanian police officers were arrested in connection with the incident, a NATO (news - web sites) souce told AP on condition of anonymity.

Neeraj Singh, the spokesman for the U.N. police, confirmed that two international officers were killed as a result of the shootout. He would not disclose their nationalities.

"There has been a shooting incident," Singh said. "The incident involved international police officers."

Milan Ivanovic, a doctor in the hospital in the Serb-held part of Kosovska Mitrovica, told The Associated Press that an American woman officer died of her injuries. Other Americans were among the injured, he said.

"Their wounds are predominantly in the chest and abdomen," Ivanovic said. "They were caused by firearms and possibly explosive devices."

It was not immediately clear what caused the shootout in the prison in tense Kosovska Mitrovica, which has been the scene of ethnic violence between Serbs and ethnic Albanians a month ago.

Singh said that "police are currently investigating the circumstances of the incident."

Kosovska Mitrovica has long been a flashpoint for troubles between ethnic Albanians on the southern side of the Ibar River and Serbs, who live in the northern part of the city 25 miles from the capital, Pristina.

Kosovo became a U.N. protectorate in 1999, after NATO launched a 78-day air war to stop former President Slobodan Milosevic (news - web sites) from cracking down on ethnic Albanians seeking independence.

There are some 3,500 U.N. police officers serving in Kosovo alongside a 6,000-strong local force.
http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20040417/ap_on_re_eu/kosovo_prison_shootout_5

[UkrainianAmerican]

Americans dont kill people who happen to have a different POV.

yes they do, they go to war over it.
:bash:

that's war boils down to, if you think the world is really devided into good and bad, you still have some growing up to do.
When a f*cked up point of view turns into a f*cked up action, it is just to declare war.

[cut]

Americans dont kill people who happen to have a different POV.

yes they do, they go to war over it.
:bash:

that's war boils down to, if you think the world is really devided into good and bad, you still have some growing up to do.
When a f*cked up point of view turns into a f*cked up action, it is just to declare war.

you tell me you live in the US :P

[UkrainianAmerican]

Americans dont kill people who happen to have a different POV.

yes they do, they go to war over it.
:bash:

that's war boils down to, if you think the world is really devided into good and bad, you still have some growing up to do.
When a f*cked up point of view turns into a f*cked up action, it is just to declare war.

you tell me you live in the US :P
What do you mean?

[budanski]

Sure Kerry, lets let these folks be in charge of Iraq.

[UkrainianAmerican]

Sure Kerry, lets let these folks be in charge of Iraq.
Unfortunately Bush, wants UN as well :(

[HELEX]

I think it has got something to do with the fact that the Victims were women.
That Pakistani maybe faced first time a Situation with women that have a Opinion...

[cut]

Saddam was no doubt a dictator, and a bad one at that, but because the case for war was overstated. The pov of the average person moved from being impartial to beliving that this man was helping terrorists attack america. Whereas in Britain it was that Saddam could strike British assests (namely Cyprus) with WMD, which turned out to be bull****. But the difference in points of view, by the brits that this was a war against saddam not al-qaeda, whereas for americans this was part of the war on terror.

The pov that all arabs are bad, the assumtion that it was the arabs that caused this incident to happen are other examples I could use.

[Truthsayer]

Another evidence that lose gun-laws aren't all that great...if not even law-officials can keep a cool head and not use them...

Btw, some of you really need to cut the rascist crap.

This is most likely a heated discussion that went overboard.

[budanski]

Sure Kerry, lets let these folks be in charge of Iraq.
Unfortunately Bush, wants UN as well :(

Not really.

The only thing the U.N. has ever done successfully is conducting and supervising elections, The provisional Constitution that spells out the legal path to give sovereignty back to the Iraqi's was subject to US oversight and is now in place. All the U.N. will do is negotiate the implementation of it, as the final Constitution is ratified and national elections are held.

The U.N. will not control the policy, they will simply give their stamp of approval and oversee the elections. Read the provisional Constitution that CPA ratified 60 days ago, it's all part of the plan set forth and is on schedule

Sorry, being a bit lazy cause I've got a kid attached to me via Baby Bjorn. ;)

[ibstolidude]

I think it has got something to do with the fact that the Victims were women.
That Pakistani maybe faced first time a Situation with women that have a Opinion...
I think we should wait for the facts, rather make baseless assumptions.

And I am not point at HELEX I am pointing at about a dozen people.

[cut]

Sure Kerry, lets let these folks be in charge of Iraq.
Unfortunately Bush, wants UN as well :(

Not really.

The only thing the U.N. has ever done successfully is conducting and supervising elections, The provisional Constitution that spells out the legal path to give sovereignty back to the Iraqi's was subject to US oversight and is now in place. All the U.N. will do is negotiate the implementation of it, as the final Constitution is ratified and national elections are held.

The U.N. will not control the policy, they will simply give their stamp of approval and oversee the elections. Read the provisional Constitution that CPA ratified 60 days ago, it's all part of the plan set forth and is on schedule

rofl

I'm in two minds about this, should I bother trying to show you the error of your ways or is it not worth the energy?

[UkrainianAmerican]

Sure Kerry, lets let these folks be in charge of Iraq.
Unfortunately Bush, wants UN as well :(

Not really.

The only thing the U.N. has ever done successfully is conducting and supervising elections, The provisional Constitution that spells out the legal path to give sovereignty back to the Iraqi's was subject to US oversight and is now in place. All the U.N. will do is negotiate the implementation of it, as the final Constitution is ratified and national elections are held.

The U.N. will not control the policy, they will simply give their stamp of approval and oversee the elections. Read the provisional Constitution that CPA ratified 60 days ago, it's all part of the plan set forth and is on schedule

Sorry, being a bit lazy cause I've got a kid attached to me via Baby Bjorn. ;)
I am not sure, but didnt he ask for them to send their forces to Iraq?

[budanski]

Sure Kerry, lets let these folks be in charge of Iraq.
Unfortunately Bush, wants UN as well :(

Not really.

The only thing the U.N. has ever done successfully is conducting and supervising elections, The provisional Constitution that spells out the legal path to give sovereignty back to the Iraqi's was subject to US oversight and is now in place. All the U.N. will do is negotiate the implementation of it, as the final Constitution is ratified and national elections are held.

The U.N. will not control the policy, they will simply give their stamp of approval and oversee the elections. Read the provisional Constitution that CPA ratified 60 days ago, it's all part of the plan set forth and is on schedule

rofl

I'm in two minds about this, should I bother trying to show you the error of your ways or is it not worth the energy?
I'm game. Even with a kid attached to me. ;)

[cut]

Sure Kerry, lets let these folks be in charge of Iraq.
Unfortunately Bush, wants UN as well :(

Not really.

The only thing the U.N. has ever done successfully is conducting and supervising elections, The provisional Constitution that spells out the legal path to give sovereignty back to the Iraqi's was subject to US oversight and is now in place. All the U.N. will do is negotiate the implementation of it, as the final Constitution is ratified and national elections are held.

The U.N. will not control the policy, they will simply give their stamp of approval and oversee the elections. Read the provisional Constitution that CPA ratified 60 days ago, it's all part of the plan set forth and is on schedule

rofl

I'm in two minds about this, should I bother trying to show you the error of your ways or is it not worth the energy?
I'm game. Even with a kid attached to me. ;)

in that case I applaud your comitment, I'll lecture you another time. :P ;)

[Pooga]

What the heck?!?

When the UN peacekeepers intentionally shoot at eachother, you're doing something wrong. I thought this was friendly fire or an accident. This is ridiculous!

What has this world come to when the people in the baby-blue helmets start shooting at eachother? How stupid. The UN is supposed to be the role model for the world (or it thinks it is). Wonder what's gonna happen?

[SerbPVO]

Its not only "shooting".

The doctors at the Serb-run hospital in kosovoska Mitrovica, where some of these injured people were taken, said some of the injuries are from "explosions" - i guess hand grenades were lobbed as well.

[budanski]

Sure Kerry, lets let these folks be in charge of Iraq.
Unfortunately Bush, wants UN as well :(

Not really.

The only thing the U.N. has ever done successfully is conducting and supervising elections, The provisional Constitution that spells out the legal path to give sovereignty back to the Iraqi's was subject to US oversight and is now in place. All the U.N. will do is negotiate the implementation of it, as the final Constitution is ratified and national elections are held.

The U.N. will not control the policy, they will simply give their stamp of approval and oversee the elections. Read the provisional Constitution that CPA ratified 60 days ago, it's all part of the plan set forth and is on schedule

rofl

I'm in two minds about this, should I bother trying to show you the error of your ways or is it not worth the energy?
I'm game. Even with a kid attached to me. ;)

in that case I applaud your comitment, I'll lecture you another time. :P ;)

Thats cool. I'll take a raincheck on getting "schooled" some other time. ;)

But I'd like to add that the distortion here is that the President has consistently asked for a UN presence in Iraq, from the beginning. It was the UN that decided not to authorize a UN force, and when they finally got around to establishing a HQ in Iraq, they were chased away by suicide bombers.

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The UN can't impose on it's members.

[HELEX]

****, this is against all the UN are standing for. :(

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UN police die in Kosovo shooting


http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/40051000/jpg/_40051349_kosovoap203body.jpg


Three UN police officers have been killed in a shootout near a prison in northern Kosovo, UN officials say.

The two Americans and one Jordanian were killed in the shooting. They appear to have died after being shot by colleagues, a UN spokesman said.

Eleven others were injured and taken to nearby hospitals.

It is unclear what caused the shootout in the town of Mitrovica - the scene of bitter violence between Serbs and ethnic Albanians in March.


However the UN said no Serbs or ethnic Albanians were involved.

Reports suggest the shooting was the result of an argument between the officers, but the UN has yet to confirm the cause.

Forensic teams are at the scene and an investigation has been launched.

Mitrovica has long been a flashpoint for troubles between ethnic Albanians on the southern side of the Ibar River and Serbs, who live in the northern part of the town.

More than 3,000 international police serve as part of the UN mission in the UN-administered province and are responsible for law and order.


Story from BBC NEWS:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/pr/fr/-/1/hi/world/europe/3635341.stm

Published: 2004/04/17 18:04:39 GMT

© BBC MMIV

[Ichhabe]

This is just sad. :|

[MaDuce]

Another evidence that lose gun-laws aren't all that great...if not even law-officials can keep a cool head and not use them...

Btw, some of you really need to cut the rascist crap.

This is most likely a heated discussion that went overboard.
Gun laws?? They are police they are supposed to have guns. And gun control in Serbia rofl rofl

[usa320]

This is most likely a heated discussion that went overboard.

No.


And you don´t think that the Americans somehow might have provoced them?


No.

Because he shot a jordanian too.

If you ask me, it looks VERY similiar to the incident in 2002 where Pakistani border guards fired on US troops.

Pakistan has very little control over its military.

Many of their soldiers are islamic fundementalists at heart. Im guessing this is what happened here.

The pakistani was more than likely an Al Queda sympathizer mad at America who snapped. Like that moron with the 82nd ABN that decided he would lob some grenades at the command tent.

People like these shouldnt be allowed in the military.

It wasnt an argument, it looks like a lone gunmen who hates America that snapped.[/quote]

[Damian]

RIP brave woman
Fuc**** arabs

And you don´t think that the Americans somehow might have provoced them?

But still, this is a "wtf happened" type of incident.

No it's impossible.....
I don't think it's an incident, I think it was planned...

[Korth]

why is it ironic ?

RIP

The US was helping the muslims to fight christians in the Balkans. It is where the US was helping the muslims in the age old clash of civilizations, Islam -vs- Christendom.

Now the muslims turn on the US in the Balkans.

[StarvingStudent47]

Am I the only one who noticed that FOUR Jordanians and ZERO Americans were arrested over this incident? That doesn't sound to me like "an argument that boiled over" or "American jingoism." That sounds to me like Jordanians opening fire on Americans, and then Americans defending themselves.

[American Patriot]

4-2 Jordanians lose, hell yeah!

We can beat the world at anything, even gun fights.

[StarvingStudent47]

4-2 Jordanians lose, hell yeah!

We can beat the world at anything, even gun fights.

?

My understanding is that the body count was 2 Americans, 1 Jordanian, and the arrest count was 4 Jordanians, 0 Americans. Not sure what your 4-2 figure is referring to.

[mustamato]

4-2 Jordanians lose, hell yeah!

We can beat the world at anything, even gun fights.

2 Americans killed
4 Jordanians arrested

[Pooga]

1 Jordanian killed.
4 Jordanians arrested.

2 American killed.
5 Americans wounded.

1 Austrian wounded.

11 others wounded, whatever that means. Plenty of people to from whom to deduce the incident from.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,117395,00.html

[mustamato]

11 others wounded, whatever that means.

Prisoners (since the shiat obviously took place inside the prison compound).

[ibstolidude]

4-2 Jordanians lose, hell yeah!

We can beat the world at anything, even gun fights.
You are an absolute idiot.

[ShadowNeo]

4-2 Jordanians lose, hell yeah!

We can beat the world at anything, even gun fights.

That may be the kind of stupid mentality that got those Americans killed.

[Mr Gently Benevolent]

Ah the Sixgun signature post, this is as good as a fingerprint.

The US was helping the muslims to fight christians in the Balkans. It is where the US was helping the muslims in the age old clash of civilizations, Islam -vs- Christendom.

Now the muslims turn on the US in the Balkans.

[ibstolidude]

4-2 Jordanians lose, hell yeah!

We can beat the world at anything, even gun fights.

That may be the kind of stupid mentality that got those Americans killed.
You are also an idiot.

[Mr. Nielsen]

f*** great . Soon enough the Jordanian officials would claim that the shooter was menthally sick . We happened something like that in my place (only this time Jordanian soldier shoot 7 young girls to death , and Jordanians claimed that the soldiers is crazy ) .

f*** great . Take my word on it .

People in the military, who loose control happens all over the world. Actually I think, even among the danish troops in the balkan's we have had a case, though no one was hurt. And considering the situation the IDF is operating in, I would expect a lot of cases.

Here is an example:

http://www.jpost.com/com/Archive/05.Jan.1997/News/Article-5.html

But I don't know, if people "snapping", would explain what happened in kosovo.

[Fintin]

if we all played ping pong to settle disputes no one would be upset...cause ping pong rocks my world

[ShadowNeo]

ibstolidude wrote:

You are also an idiot.

Why thank you, although it will probably be the last thing I will read on this forum as it has officially, gone down the sh!tter and wedged itself firmly down there with no signs of becoming unclogged.

Granted, that was a bit of a rash, one sided response from me, yeah? Well to be frank, i'm sick of the kind of American ultra-nationalistic attitude that rears its malignant head all to often on these forums nowadays.

It reminds me of an experience I had when I was last in America, sometime last year, and something that has stuck with me ever since.

I was in an airport, boarding a flight back home, and an American guy nudged my shoulder and gestured to a man of Asian/Middle Eastern appearance entering the boarding ramp. He said to me: "Man, don't you feel pretty unsafe when they let these bastards on flights?".

This man showed me a degree of stupidity and ignorance I have come to associate with many of the people who post on this forum. Firstly, labeling an person on sight as a terrorist - a clear sign of stupidity. As for the ignorance? The guy he gestured at wasn't even a Muslim - he was a Sikh.

Anyway, I think i'll stick to looking at the pictures, save myself from wading waist-deep in crap ;) .

[ibstolidude]

ibstolidude wrote:

You are also an idiot.

Why thank you, although it will probably be the last thing I will read on this forum as it has officially, gone down the sh!tter and wedged itself firmly down there with no signs of becoming unclogged.

Granted, that was a bit of a rash, one sided response from me, yeah? Well to be frank, i'm sick of the kind of American ultra-nationalistic attitude that rears its malignant head all to often on these forums nowadays.

It reminds me of an experience I had when I was last in America, sometime last year, and something that has stuck with me ever since.

I was in an airport, boarding a flight back home, and an American guy nudged my shoulder and gestured to a man of Asian/Middle Eastern appearance entering the boarding ramp. He said to me: "Man, don't you feel pretty unsafe when they let these bastards on flights?".

This man showed me a degree of stupidity and ignorance I have come to associate with many of the people who post on this forum. Firstly, labeling an person on sight as a terrorist - a clear sign of stupidity. As for the ignorance? The guy he gestured at wasn't even a Muslim - he was a Sikh.

Anyway, I think i'll stick to looking at the pictures, save myself from wading waist-deep in crap ;) .
After your previous post fine by me.
I hope you start a trend and several others follow suit.

take care.

[Fintin]

shadow should have played ping pong.....its much easier to read these posts when you relize.....no matter what these people say or do.....there is no way they are going to crawl through the cable connecting them to you and hurt you....just sit back and laugh at them....or do some research and own them....and if the are too ignorent to relize they have been bamboozled....5 doller word there....then just leave it be with the satisfaction that your brain and balls..(or overys) are bigger then theirs....

[ibstolidude]

Still many conflicting stories from various news sources:
http://www.nytimes.com/2004/04/18/international/europe/18KOSO.html?ex=1082865600&en=859547f3b8dfaf1e&ei=5006&partner=ALTAVISTA1

http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20040417/ap_on_re_eu/kosovo_prison_shootout_11

http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/nm/20040417/wl_nm/serbiamontenegro_kosovo_shooting_dc_6 - according to this article several of the Amercians involved were women. - the Al Jezeera website offers this as a reprint.

- nothing new on BBC

[Korth]

http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/nm/20040417/wl_nm/serbiamontenegro_kosovo_shooting_dc_6 - according to this article several of the Amercians involved were women. - the Al Jezeera website offers this as a reprint.


The muslims do not like having women in authority.

[Haiw]

Here's some wisdom...how about everyone shuts their speculating hole untill we have some cold facts and a real rundown of what really happened.

BTW can any moderator run down an IP check on Korth?

[Fintin]

he might be small but he is smart...^word

[Korth]

Edited for a lack of accuracy

[SerbPVO]

B92 (Serbian news) says that, out of 11 seriously wounded, 10 are Americans.

So, 2 dead and 10 wounded Americans today, in Kosovo.

[Fintin]

no no no a mouse trap went off, then everyone shot at the same time...and the best part is the first two shots were from athiests...imagin that..muslims didnt do it, nor christians, nor jews, or any body from earth, cause the athiests were from pluto....i swear its all true

[Truthsayer]

B92 (Serbian news) says that, out of 11 seriously wounded, 10 are Americans.

So, 2 dead and 10 wounded Americans today, in Kosovo.

It is obvious that the muslims fired first on the Americans.

It is obvious that you are the same fascist that has been banned from this site on several occasions.

[Korth]

See, these people support the Islamic terrorists.

They too wish to see Western Civilization destroyed. It is the classic left-liberal "white guilt" complex at work here. They instinctively support the muslims in the clash of civilizations.

[Haiw]

Sixgun **** off and get run over by a train...

Everyone else, just stop speculating untill we got solid facts and reliable rundown of what really happened. All the speculation is pointless.

[ibstolidude]

ibstolidude wrote:Well to be frank, i'm sick of the kind of American ultra-nationalistic attitude that rears its malignant head all to often on these forums nowadays.

BLAH.

I highly suggest you do not mis-quote me again.

the above statement made to appear in my name was NEVER made by me.

[Haiw]

Someone here's making my blood boil... :roll:

ibstolidude, can't you just lock this topic untill there's some news on what really happened? Because right now everyone's just bickering like some headless chicken trying to chase their own non-existant tail.

[ibstolidude]

Here's some wisdom...how about everyone shuts their speculating hole untill we have some cold facts and a real rundown of what really happened.

BTW can any moderator run down an IP check on Korth?
Will do better.

I made the comment earlier about

I think we should wait for the facts, rather make baseless assumptions.

it would appear that the "verdict' is out still as the news stories still conflict

[goldman]

I am a flame warrior!

- from the management!

[Aussie E]

Fox News is reporting that a Jordanian opened fire on fellow UN Police killing a US soldier, they also reported that 2 others were killed and that 4 Jordians are in custody.

[Uninen]

4-2 Jordanians lose, hell yeah!

We can beat the world at anything, even gun fights.

That may be the kind of stupid mentality that got those Americans killed.
You are also an idiot.

Sorry no........

His not, just stating the fact, cause of Americans i know which many are lots like "American Patriot" here... (Amerika Uber alles mentality......)

And thats the mentality that gets your ass handed over to ya.

But of the case, this is ****ed up, should have not happened. RIP for all 3?.

:(

[Mark Sman]

http://www.freep.com/news/latestnews/pm19393_20040417.htm

Two U.S. police officers killed in prison shooting in Kosovo

Saturday, April 17, 2004

By NEBOJSA MARKOVIC
ASSOCIATED PRESS

KOSOVSKA MITROVICA, Serbia-Montenegro -- A Jordanian policeman opened fire on a group of international UN police in Kosovo on Saturday, killing two Americans before he was killed when officers returned fire. Ten American officers and an Austrian were wounded.
The shootout erupted when a group correctional officers -- 21 Americans, two Turks and an Austrian -- were leaving the detention center after a day of training. They came under fire from at least one of a group of Jordanians on guard at the prison, said Neeraj Singh, a UN spokesman.

The officers shot back in a gunbattle that lasted about 10 minutes. It was not immediately clear what prompted the Jordanian to shoot.

``As far as we know, there was no communication between the officer who fired and the group of victims,'' Singh said, adding that investigators looking into the incident were questioning four Jordanian officers.

The Jordanian government expressed regret for the incident in a statement and said it also was investigating the shooting, Jordan's official Petra agency reported. The statement identified the Jordanian officer as Ahmed Mustafa Ibrahim Ali.

UN and local police officers sealed off the yard of the detention center, took pictures and marked the bullet cartridges with numbers. The body of a police officer, covered with what looked like a dark blue jacket, lay for hours in the yard of the prison compound.

One witness, a 50-year-old woman who spoke on condition of anonymity, said she heard the shooting, ran to her balcony overlooking the prison yard and saw one officer shooting and another hiding.

Another witness who also gave only his age, 31, said he was at a nearby park when he heard the shooting and later heard American officers yelling, ``Drop the gun! Drop the gun!''

``It is absolutely too early to draw any conclusions with regard to what happened there,'' the head of the UN police, Stefan Feller, told Associated Press Television News after visiting the site. He called the shootout a ``terrible incident.''

Milan Ivanovic, a doctor at the hospital in Kosovska Mitrovica, told AP that five American officers and one Austrian officer were being treated. It was not immediately clear where the other wounded were being treated, or what their nationalities were.

``Their wounds are predominantly in the chest and abdomen,'' Ivanovic said. ``They were caused by firearms and possibly explosive devices.''

Kosovska Mitrovica has long been the scene of violence between Serbs and ethnic Albanians, including riots that broke out a month ago, killing 19 and injuring 900.

Ethnic Albanians live on the southern side of the Ibar River in the divided city, and Serbs live in the north. Kosovska Mitrovica is located 25 miles from the provincial capital, Pristina.

Kosovo became a UN protectorate in 1999, after NATO launched a 78-day air war to stop Serb leader Slobodan Milosevic from cracking down on ethnic Albanians seeking independence.

There are some 3,500 UN police officers serving in Kosovo alongside a 6,000-strong local force.

The top UN official in Kosovo, Harri Holkeri, seemed stunned at the shooting incident, which came as the mission is still grappling with last month's violence.

``I am deeply shocked and dismayed at the unfortunate death of dedicated professionals who have come such a great distance to help Kosovo on its road to future,'' he said.

[ibstolidude]

4-2 Jordanians lose, hell yeah!

We can beat the world at anything, even gun fights.

That may be the kind of stupid mentality that got those Americans killed.
You are also an idiot.

Sorry no........

His not, just stating the fact, cause of Americans i know which many are lots like "American Patriot" here... (Amerika Uber alles mentality......)

And thats the mentality that gets your ass handed over to ya.

But of the case, this is f*** up, should have not happened. RIP for all 3?.

:(
I can say the same about ANY country you wish to put before me.

However more to the point

I expect you to explain to me how it is that you know a DAMN thing about what caused those americans death or the wounding of the Jordanians, americans, austrian and civilians.

Neither you, nor Patriot, nor darkblue have clue all what happened you just choose to use others mistfortunes to your personal agenda

Exactly the kind of posters we need fewer of.

[usa320]

whhops, double post.

[usa320]

American officers yelling, ``Drop the gun! Drop the gun!''


I think its clear who was responsible.[/b]

[Maine Finn]

After reading this thread in its entirety, I think that Haiw has a point.

We would be best suited to simply shut up with the speculation and wait for details.

[Uninen]

ibstolidude,

Note the word MAY (MAY HAVE CAUSED).

He nor i said that we know this for fact, but with lots of people like "American Patriot" the thing is a real possibility. (IE had one of his kind been among the Americans at the prison, we would know that this person started it..)

But then again your right.. its the "ugly" people (especially in forums) that get noticed, and all the nice and silent people go UNNOTICED, so maybe people like him have given me and many others a bad examble of the rest of "you"...

Sorry, my bad.

Oh and i dont have a agenda..

Do i?

[Maine Finn]

ibstolidude,

Note the word MAY (MAY HAVE CAUSED).

He nor i said that we know this for fact, but with lots of people like "American Patriot" the thing is a real possibility. (IE had one of his kind been among the Americans at the prison, we would know that this person started it..)

But then again your right.. its the "ugly" people (especially in forums) that get noticed, and all the nice and silent people go UNNOTICED, so maybe people like him have given me and many others a bad examble of the rest of "you"...

Sorry, my bad.

Oh and i dont have a agenda..

Do i?

Do you know when to give up, ystävä? This argument is going in circles. Let it go, for pity's sake.

[Uninen]

He claimed that i said "i know" when i said "may" theres a capping difference, but whatever you say ystävä..... :hug:

[Maine Finn]

He claimed that i said "i know" when i said "may" theres a capping difference, but whatever you say ystävä..... :hug:

As long as we agree on that. :D

[ibstolidude]

He claimed that i said "i know" when i said "may" theres a capping difference, but whatever you say ystävä..... :hug:
then why post.....
Aliens space creatures MAY exist and really be the reason the gun fight took place - they MAY have used their mind control techniques.

They Jordanians MAY have read some of your posts and were so distraught and confused they simply started shooting people and the Amercians females and Austrian were the first ones they saw.

Hell it MAY have been you that actually did it.

If it wasn't for slander, then why post unfounded comments about their insulting attitude MAY have led to the tragedy?

[Soulhunter]

it were the aliens.

[Maine Finn]

He claimed that i said "i know" when i said "may" theres a capping difference, but whatever you say ystävä..... :hug:
then why post.....
Aliens space creatures MAY exist and really be the reason the gun fight took place - they MAY have used their mind control techniques.

They Jordanians MAY have read some of your posts and were so distraught and confused they simply started shooting people and the Amercians females and Austrian were the first ones they saw.

Hell it MAY have been you that actually did it.

Thanks, Stoli. I think my previous posts are now meaningless. Uninen will post a response because he's been challenged and this argument will start again.

Voi vittu! This is so much hevon vittu. I'm going to bed. You all can bicker and argue to your hearts' content.

Huoranpenikka.

[Uninen]

Basicly i replied to that post cause ibstolidude was calling this one fellow as idiot which wasnt called for, as he made a fair guess.

But to the topic you can also see from the very start that i said this is ****ed up and should have not happened. (the shootings)

"blue berets" shooting each others.....

But this is what one gets when they mix moslems and Americans as since 911 USA has had this little war against terrorism.... war which many rednecks see as war against all moslems.

As they cant make a difference between ordinary moslem and some Jihadist. And lets not forget, Jihadist arent the only Terrorists in this planet......

[ibstolidude]

Patriot was an "absolute idiot" for making the statement he did.

4-2 Jordanians lose, hell yeah!

We can beat the world at anything, even gun fights.

and Shadow was also an idiot for making the assumptions of several UN Police officers deaths based upon the comments of an idiot on the internet.
...especially when many of the reports are to complete contrary..


That may be the kind of stupid mentality that got those Americans killed.

I stand by my comments.
Both posts were idiotic and should have been deleted.

[Uninen]

Shadows comment wasnt idiotic IMHO, as people like this "American Patriot" are numerous and very visible on different kinds of forums (the people are from USA......) and that fact gives a impression that there many, many more such people out there in states..... (actually they seem to be a majority.. all the way up to G.W.Bush.......)

And its people like that, that get the **** like that fire fight started (by making people mad..) as you know the thing started from argument, and i think that somebody like "American Patriot" was present there and really pissed the other guys off and made them pull their guns, with sad results....

:(

[Brozozo]

Basicly i replied to that post cause ibstolidude was calling this one fellow as idiot which wasnt called for, as he made a fair guess.

But to the topic you can also see from the very start that i said this is f*** up and should have not happened. (the shootings)

"blue berets" shooting each others.....

But this is what one gets when they mix moslems and Americans as since 911 USA has had this little war against terrorism.... war which many rednecks see as war against all moslems.

As they cant make a difference between ordinary moslem and some Jihadist. And lets not forget, Jihadist arent the only Terrorists in this planet......

Seems to me that just about every terrorist organization is related to the muslim faith and almost every major terrost act in the past 30 years or so has some sort of muslim connection. They're not the only terrorists in the world, but the only ones that constantly seem to be creating ****-storms...just a thought.

[Uninen]

Theres plenty T:s in USA, South America, and Europe that arent moslems of anykind.......

And many of "moslem" terrorist organisations were created by USA IE: Taleban, Al-Qaida and UCK.........

[Pégase]

Theres plenty T:s in USA, South America, and Europe that arent moslems of anykind.......

And many of "moslem" terrorist organisations were created by USA IE: Taleban, Al-Qaida and UCK.........

sad but true ...

and isn't the risk that the weapons and trainings given to the moudjahidins in A-stan and to the Iraki police could return against US , on a way or another, neglected again ?

[gilgoul]

Theres plenty T:s in USA, South America, and Europe that arent moslems of anykind.......

And many of "moslem" terrorist organisations were created by USA IE: Taleban, Al-Qaida and UCK.........

sad but true ...

and isn't the risk that the weapons and trainings given to the moudjahidins in A-stan and to the Iraki police could return against US , on a way or another, neglected again ?

let`s not forget the role played by France in this little blaming game, the training given to mujaheedin, Syrians, Irakis, Algerians, who are later going to join the great Jihad.
Let`s not forget that it`s the 2eme REP that saved the ass of ArAFAT in Beyriuth in 82. that the Milan is a part of the equipement of Hizballah, Irak insurgents, palestininan insurgents, and god knows who else.
I guess the whole west played it dirty during all this time, and I remember being a kid growing up in France, in the 80`s , taking the mujaheedins as heroes and Saddam Hussein as a friend of human kind as opposed to the blood thirsty Iranians who were sending kids in minefield.
You see, I guess everything is kind of depending on the mood, the PO and tht political weather.
Conclusion, no morality in politics, and the truth is always depending on the interest of the actors to reveal it.
;)

[Delta Niner]

I just hope that someone in the UN will have the wisdom and knowledge to prevent this from happening again.

[snake_eater]

The peaceniks here have been supporting the the Islamic terrorists, they're in love with Osama bin Ladin. The commie fuks.

Fact is that there is a resurgent Islam. I think the comments made about the "white guilt" complex of the Left is very accurrate as to why the commies are supporting the muslim terrorists.

There is a resurgent Islam, it IS NOT a religion of peace. The peaceniks are ignoring a thousand years of history by thinking that Islam is a peaceful religion.

[Mr Gently Benevolent]

The peaceniks here have been supporting the the Islamic terrorists, they're in love with Osama bin Ladin. The commie fuks.

Fact is that there is a resurgent Islam. I think the comments made about the "white guilt" complex of the Left is very accurrate as to why the commies are supporting the muslim terrorists.

There is a resurgent Islam, it IS NOT a religion of peace. The peaceniks are ignoring a thousand years of history by thinking that Islam is a peaceful religion.
Can you elaborate on this one its sort of lost on me comrade.

[Uninen]

The peaceniks here have been supporting the the Islamic terrorists, they're in love with Osama bin Ladin. The commie fuks.

Fact is that there is a resurgent Islam. I think the comments made about the "white guilt" complex of the Left is very accurrate as to why the commies are supporting the muslim terrorists.

There is a resurgent Islam, it IS NOT a religion of peace. The peaceniks are ignoring a thousand years of history by thinking that Islam is a peaceful religion.
Can you elaborate on this one its sort of lost on me comrade.
:roll:

Can you read?

His somebody that is usually called as Nazi or as Skinhead de facto White supremacist IE his not any better of a person than your average Jihadist suicide bomber......

See the term "white guilt" that he uses?
:bash:

[Mr Gently Benevolent]

Can you read?
Only haltingly with assistance.

[snake_eater]

Hey commies,

You support the terrorist jihad, then you are part of the terrorist Jihad.

[Uninen]

Can you read?
Only haltingly with assistance.

That wasnt the point of my post, but maybe your just like him, so you willingly ignored the rest? :|

[snake_eater]

The only good communist is a dead communist.

[Mr Gently Benevolent]

Hey commies,

You support the terrorist jihad, then you are part of the terrorist Jihad.
How so.

[snake_eater]

Hey commies,

You support the terrorist jihad, then you are part of the terrorist Jihad.
How so.

The peaceniks offer political support to the terrorists.

[Uninen]

Hey commies,

You support the terrorist jihad, then you are part of the terrorist Jihad.

Hey **** head,

dont call me commie as you dont have a clue.

My Grand father has propably gunned down more Soviet Russians than whole US Army / Navy / Airfoce and intel services put together.....

http://www.arms.ru/Guns/pistmin/suomi.jpg
His tool.

Get a clue.
:bash:

[Ichhabe]

The only good communist is a dead communist.


rofl rofl rofl Seriously: :bash:

[SerbPVO]

Better communist than ****in'g Nazi fascist!

My grandfather was one of the first into BERLIN!

[Mr Gently Benevolent]

Trying to figure out how communists have anything remotely to do with the tragic shooting of the UN police woman, if Sixgun were here he could make sense of all this.

[cut]

The peaceniks here have been supporting the the Islamic terrorists, they're in love with Osama bin Ladin. The commie fuks.

Fact is that there is a resurgent Islam. I think the comments made about the "white guilt" complex of the Left is very accurrate as to why the commies are supporting the muslim terrorists.

There is a resurgent Islam, it IS NOT a religion of peace. The peaceniks are ignoring a thousand years of history by thinking that Islam is a peaceful religion.

You need to go just as much as the guys you insult. It's people like you aswell as them that provoke these "flame wars"

[FinnishMF]

The only good communist is a dead communist.
But who will kill that communist, you ?
I can be communist so come here kid and kill me :P :lol:

[Mr Gently Benevolent]

Stand firm comrades if we give snake_eater enough rope he will hang himself soon enough.

[kommando]

oi guys UN police officers have died here and u idiots are bitching on about communistsand how many your g/father killed :|
WTF!!

RIP and God bless your familys'

[Hydro]

You think snake_eater was on the school debate team? I'd pay to watch that. "I propose that school uniforms be abolished" "COMMIE FAG PINKO JIHAD LOVER! GO KISS OBL'S ASS! Can we keep the trousers?"

[-Max2-]

UN... :cantbeli:

[TALOS]

Shadows comment wasnt idiotic IMHO, as people like this "American Patriot" are numerous and very visible on different kinds of forums (the people are from USA......) and that fact gives a impression that there many, many more such people out there in states..... (actually they seem to be a majority.. all the way up to G.W.Bush.......)

And its people like that, that get the **** like that fire fight started (by making people mad..) as you know the thing started from argument, and i think that somebody like "American Patriot" was present there and really pissed the other guys off and made them pull their guns, with sad results....

:(
According to this article they didnt even have contact with each other so how was it started with argument?

Posted: Sat Apr 17, 2004 4:26 pm Post subject:

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

http://www.freep.com/news/latestnews/pm19393_20040417.htm

Two U.S. police officers killed in prison shooting in Kosovo

Saturday, April 17, 2004

By NEBOJSA MARKOVIC
ASSOCIATED PRESS

KOSOVSKA MITROVICA, Serbia-Montenegro -- A Jordanian policeman opened fire on a group of international UN police in Kosovo on Saturday, killing two Americans before he was killed when officers returned fire. Ten American officers and an Austrian were wounded.
The shootout erupted when a group correctional officers -- 21 Americans, two Turks and an Austrian -- were leaving the detention center after a day of training. They came under fire from at least one of a group of Jordanians on guard at the prison, said Neeraj Singh, a UN spokesman.

The officers shot back in a gunbattle that lasted about 10 minutes. It was not immediately clear what prompted the Jordanian to shoot.

``As far as we know, there was no communication between the officer who fired and the group of victims,'' Singh said, adding that investigators looking into the incident were questioning four Jordanian officers.

The Jordanian government expressed regret for the incident in a statement and said it also was investigating the shooting, Jordan's official Petra agency reported. The statement identified the Jordanian officer as Ahmed Mustafa Ibrahim Ali.

UN and local police officers sealed off the yard of the detention center, took pictures and marked the bullet cartridges with numbers. The body of a police officer, covered with what looked like a dark blue jacket, lay for hours in the yard of the prison compound.

One witness, a 50-year-old woman who spoke on condition of anonymity, said she heard the shooting, ran to her balcony overlooking the prison yard and saw one officer shooting and another hiding.

Another witness who also gave only his age, 31, said he was at a nearby park when he heard the shooting and later heard American officers yelling, ``Drop the gun! Drop the gun!''

``It is absolutely too early to draw any conclusions with regard to what happened there,'' the head of the UN police, Stefan Feller, told Associated Press Television News after visiting the site. He called the shootout a ``terrible incident.''

Milan Ivanovic, a doctor at the hospital in Kosovska Mitrovica, told AP that five American officers and one Austrian officer were being treated. It was not immediately clear where the other wounded were being treated, or what their nationalities were.

``Their wounds are predominantly in the chest and abdomen,'' Ivanovic said. ``They were caused by firearms and possibly explosive devices.''

Kosovska Mitrovica has long been the scene of violence between Serbs and ethnic Albanians, including riots that broke out a month ago, killing 19 and injuring 900.

Ethnic Albanians live on the southern side of the Ibar River in the divided city, and Serbs live in the north. Kosovska Mitrovica is located 25 miles from the provincial capital, Pristina.

Kosovo became a UN protectorate in 1999, after NATO launched a 78-day air war to stop Serb leader Slobodan Milosevic from cracking down on ethnic Albanians seeking independence.

There are some 3,500 UN police officers serving in Kosovo alongside a 6,000-strong local force.

The top UN official in Kosovo, Harri Holkeri, seemed stunned at the shooting incident, which came as the mission is still grappling with last month's violence.

``I am deeply shocked and dismayed at the unfortunate death of dedicated professionals who have come such a great distance to help Kosovo on its road to future,'' he said.

[cut]

You think snake_eater was on the school debate team? I'd pay to watch that. "I propose that school uniforms be abolished" "COMMIE FAG PINKO JIHAD LOVER! GO KISS OBL'S ASS! Can we keep the trousers?"

..permission to laugh sir

rofl rofl rofl

[Haiw]

Trying to figure out how communists have anything remotely to do with the tragic shooting of the UN police woman, if Sixgun were here he could make sense of all this.
Maybe he is another Sixgun clone... :roll:

[Universal]

Two people are dead, and six hurt in Kosovoska Mitrovica, after a clash between UN police from Muslim countries and UN police from USA.

One US policewoman is reported to be in critical condition,.

More to come.
I bet its the Muslim UN police fault.

If that was the case, then that's the first thing you'd hear about on cnn.

[Milkman]

Two people are dead, and six hurt in Kosovoska Mitrovica, after a clash between UN police from Muslim countries and UN police from USA.

One US policewoman is reported to be in critical condition,.

More to come.
I bet its the Muslim UN police fault.

If that was the case, then that's the first thing you'd hear about on cnn.
Noooo, FOX Network ;)

[ANGRY KIWI]

Americans dont kill people who happen to have a different POV.

yes they do, they go to war over it.

dam it u beat me to it

RIP

p.s its a bloody stuipt reson 2 die

[TALOS]

Americans dont kill people who happen to have a different POV.

yes they do, they go to war over it.

dam it u beat me to it

RIP

p.s its a bloody stuipt reson 2 die
Give it a break, they didnt go to war over a different POV, thats just not even in the realm of reality. They may have made errors on whether the Iraqis had large amounts of WMD but that was only part of the reason for going in and even most all other Gov'ts and democrats agreed that they believed he had them.

[GazB]

ibstolidude, you hammer ShadowNeo and Uninen for suggesting that Blind patriotism might have been a factor, yet Snake Eater posts what he posts and you ignore him?

Perhaps it is an in-joke... snake eater means **** sucker and is an artifical creation to change the subject of discussion from something that has become uncomfortable to something universally considered stupid that we can all laugh at... or maybe we just got lucky.

[ANGRY KIWI]

my god its another kiwi

hail woot

[Jack Mehoff]

All the wounded and dead on the American side are female MPs? They let female MPs go as a group without the male MPs now?

WTF over?

[snake_eater]

Trying to figure out how communists have anything remotely to do with the tragic shooting of the UN police woman, if Sixgun were here he could make sense of all this.

What they are doing here on this forum is to support the muslim cops that opened fire on the American police officers.

[snake_eater]

Anyway, this is the beginning of the end for the United Nations.


Good riddance!

[big_les]

Can you read?
Only haltingly with assistance.

That wasnt the point of my post, but maybe your just like him, so you willingly ignored the rest? :|

Here's a brief piece of the periodic table for you:

Goldy, Leady, Irony, Silvery

Note the third metal.

[J-10]

I think there need a special peacekeeper to keep the UN police in peace...then to keep the Kosovo in peace.

[dacanadianbomb]

The Austrian MP is now in Vienna,Austria in a hospital being treated for his wounds.
Is this ridculous or what ?
UN police shooting at each other.
When was the last time one heard something so stupid.
RIP to the fallen.

For the people who are quick to say " screw islam " or " fxxking arabs " get a life. You need to stop seeing one or ten or 100 thousand people as representative of an entire race or religion. Or even one country as representing an entire region.
A couple of rotten apples spoil the entire barrel ( i think thats what the saying is ) , but only if we choose to let it happen.

This goes for all races and religions.

[Hellman109]

RIP The fallen.

They dont deserve to be dead, they were serving in a peace corp, they were shot by people i nthe same PEACE corp.

I think that it will be an isolated thing (I.E. Americans provoked allot, shooter had a screw loose, etc.) and this will be the last time it happens.

The reports arent clear yet, so stop jumping to conclusions.

[aktarian]

The reports arent clear yet, so stop jumping to conclusions.

Didn't somebody said something like this 5 or so pages back?

[Hellman109]

The reports arent clear yet, so stop jumping to conclusions.

Didn't somebody said something like this 5 or so pages back?

Yes but has anyone listened?

[aktarian]

The reports arent clear yet, so stop jumping to conclusions.

Didn't somebody said something like this 5 or so pages back?

Yes but has anyone listened?

No. So what makes you think people will listen now?

[ANGRY KIWI]

The reports arent clear yet, so stop jumping to conclusions.

Didn't somebody said something like this 5 or so pages back?

Yes but has anyone listened?


did u say some thing sorry i wasnt listening
:cantbeli:



:edit: spelling

[REMOV]

Source: http://www.newsday.com/news/nationworld/wire/sns-ap-kosovo-prison-shootout,0,4255881.story?coll=sns-ap-nationworld-headlines

PRISTINA, Serbia-Montenegro -- Four U.N. police officers from Jordan were stripped of their diplomatic immunity Monday to be questioned in a fellow Jordanian's killing of two American guards in Kosovo.

It wasn't clear why Sgt. Maj. Ahmed Mustafa Ibrahim Ali opened fire on a convoy of corrections officers on Saturday. He and the two female American guards were killed in the shootout that followed, and 11 people were wounded.

Ali was a member of a highly trained unit in Jordan and had been decorated for warding off an attack on the Israeli Embassy in Amman, a Jordanian official said.

The four other Jordanian police officers at the prison in the town of Kosovska Mitrovica were detained. Authorities lifted their diplomatic immunity, opening the way for them to be interrogated, officials said.

A delegation of Jordanian police officials arrived Monday in Kosovo to assist with the investigation, which is led by an international prosecutor, officials said.

Eight of the 10 Americans were moved to a U.S. military base in Kosovo for treatment, a U.S. military spokesman said Monday. The other two were treated and released, and an Austrian also wounded was flown home Sunday for treatment.

One American officer remained in critical condition following brain surgery in neighboring Macedonia, U.S. peacekeeping spokesman Staff Sgt. Michael Houk said.

The attack shook the United Nations mission in Kosovo, already in turmoil following violent ethnic clashes last month between ethnic Albanians and Serbs that killed 19 and wounded more than 900 in Kosovska Mitrovica.

"The shooting struck a huge blow at the very idea of peacekeeping," said Alex Anderson, the Kosovo project director of the International Crisis Group, a Brussels-based organization that monitors the Balkans.

An American police officer serving with the U.N. mission in Kosovo told The Associated Press that the shooting was "clearly an attack against Americans." The officer spoke on condition of anonymity.

Officials denied rumors that a quarrel about the war in Iraq had sparked the gunbattle.

"As far as we know, there was no communication between the officer who fired and the group of victims," said Neeraj Singh, a U.N. spokesman.

The officers were part of the U.N. mission that has administered Kosovo and provided security since June 1999, when Belgrade's authority over the province was removed following a NATO air war that stopped a Serb crackdown on independence-seeking ethnic Albanians.

"This is a sad day for United Nations peacekeeping," said Stefan Feller, the head of the U.N. police in Kosovo. "At this stage there can be no conclusions on the reason for the shooting."

The gunbattle began as three U.N. vehicles carrying 21 U.S. correctional officers, two Turkish officers and the Austrian were leaving the prison, which was guarded by five Jordanian special police unit officers, officials said. The correctional officers, who arrived in Kosovo just 10 days ago, had been training at the prison.

Ali, 30, started firing at the convoy, Feller said, and the officers returned fire.

Jordan's government expressed regret for the shootings, a statement carried by the official Jordanian Petra agency said.

The slain Americans were identified as Kim Bigley, 47, of Paducah, Ky., and Lynn Williams, 48, of Elmont, N.Y., said Mike ****erson, spokesman for Computer Sciences Corp. Both worked for Dyncorp, a susidiary of CSC that trains police, corrections and judicial for overseas duty.

[Truthsayer]

Ali was a member of a highly trained unit in Jordan and had been decorated for warding off an attack on the Israeli Embassy in Amman, a Jordanian official said.

Yes, he sounds like a real muslum terrorist. :cantbeli:




Can I order one cup of stfu to american patriot(s) now?

[FallenAngel]

^ That does not mean he's not a terrorist NOW. That incident could be ten years old now. People change and with the War on Terror and the Western world targeting muslims it may have changed his out-look.

[TALOS]

Ali was a member of a highly trained unit in Jordan and had been decorated for warding off an attack on the Israeli Embassy in Amman, a Jordanian official said.

Yes, he sounds like a real muslum terrorist. :cantbeli:




Can I order one cup of stfu to american patriot(s) now?
An American police officer serving with the U.N. mission in Kosovo told The Associated Press that the shooting was "clearly an attack against Americans." The officer spoke on condition of anonymity.
He was there, were you? was the Jordanian official? were we? well, lets just let the people who were there have the say.

[Ichhabe]

^ That does not mean he's not a terrorist NOW. That incident could be ten years old now. People change and with the War on Terror and the Western world targeting muslims it may have changed his out-look.

I have stayed out of this socalled "discussion" on what might have happend there in that Pristina jail. That is still my intention.

But I have one question to those who have given us their "expert comments": Have any of you ever been close to a person that totally snaps out of it? That has gone from totally calm and normal person to totally insane in just a fraction of a second? And that same person is someone you actually known for years, and that they snapped out of it without any warnings that a normal person could have forseen.

Any of you, after that ever tried to get that person under controle while he's running around with a rifle, screaming and yelling one second, for the next to "delibrity" threathening to kill those who tries to help him?

Just wondering you see...

[Uninen]

Yeah,

But the report posted by "Remov" claims that there was no argument or anything before this individual supposedly "snapped" and according by my experiences, people that "snap" are usually taunted or actually attacked "just before" they "snap out"......

[Mark Sman]

Sometimes things just happen.

[Mark Sman]

Have any of you ever been close to a person that totally snaps out of it?

Yes.

[ibstolidude]

Yeah,

But the report posted by "Remov" claims that there was no argument or anything before this individual supposedly "snapped" and according by my experiences, people that "snap" are usually taunted or actually attacked "just before" they "snap out"......



Perhaps like the Jordanian who opened up on Isreali school girls with an assualt rifle killing 7 if memory serves, eventually overpowered by other Jordians he was just a wacko.... last year the Jordian that killed his Jordanian partners with an assualt rifle (then himself) did have an arguement.

What makes it so hard for you to comprehend? There are evil people and criminals out there who have no regard for others lives. OR is it that you might be wrong and this scenario doesn't fit in with your earlier comments about it being the Americans fault? Perhaps the smartest comments all along were the ones that stated we should all wait until the facts come out.

http://www.nytimes.com/2004/04/19/international/europe/19koso.html?ei=5006&en=58c173d1e6ed7c64&ex=1083038400&adxnnl=1&partner=ALTAVISTA1&adxnnlx=1082550209-6BTBMY+WR2TTIXRMH74EAQ


The shooting took place just after 3 p.m. as the guards were leaving the jail in three cars. Officers close to the investigation said that five Jordanian officers were at the gate when the shooting started but that only one opened fire. The gunfire lasted about 10 minutes, said Joe Napolitano, the commander of a nearby United Nations police station, and local people who witnessed the attack.

Ms. Becker said the prison officers had no contact with the Jordanians before the shooting took place. "It was their first day at the detention center," she said. "They had just completed their induction course and were being shown around the prison for the first time."

Police investigators said they could not comment as to whether the Jordanian officer had deliberately chosen Americans as his target.


http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/3637033.stm

Four Jordanians detained in Kosovo over a gunfight between international police on Saturday are now being interrogated as potential suspects.
UN officials have confirmed that the incident began when Jordanian police fired on vehicles carrying US police.
The US officers returned fire and two Americans and one Jordanian were killed and 11 others were wounded.
The Jordanians could not be formally interviewed until the UN waived their right to diplomatic immunity.
UN officials have denied rumours that a quarrel about the war in Iraq sparked the gunfight.
"As far as we know, there was no communication between the officer who fired and the group of victims," AP news agency quoted UN spokesman, Neural Singh, as saying.
The shooting came a day after King Abdullah of Jordan said during a visit to the United States that the war in Iraq had created unprecedented animosity towards Americans across the Middle East.
The UN uses more than 3,000 international police to maintain order between Kosovo's Serbs and Albanians.
But it has confirmed no Serbs or Albanians were involved in the latest shoot-out, which took place in the compound of a prison in Mitrovica.
Special police unit
The incident occurred as the US officers left the detention centre after undergoing initial training. They had only been in Kosovo for 10 days.
The UN says that as they left the compound, at least one member of a Jordanian special police unit opened fire on the US vehicles.
The Americans returned fire. Two female Americans and one male Jordanian died.
UN police commissioner in Kosovo Stefan Feller said that among those killed was a member of the prison's management staff and a member of the special police unit.
Two of the injured are in a serious condition. Four Jordanian officers are being held as witnesses to the incident.
'Drop the gun!'
Doctor Milan Ivanov told the BBC that wounds to the injured were predominantly in the chest and abdomen and "were caused by firearms and possibly explosive devices".
A witness to the incident quoted by the Associated Press news agency said he heard gunshots followed by the cries of American officers yelling, "Drop the gun! Drop the gun!"
The BBC's Nick Hawton in Pristina says the incident could put fresh pressure on the UN, which has also been accused of falling behind in its plan for political reform in the province.
The top UN official in Kosovo, Harry Holier, said he was "deeply shocked and dismayed" over the incident.
The UN took charge of the Serbian province of Kosovo after an 11-week air war, in which Nato forces aimed to push back Serbian troops accused of war crimes against the ethnic Albanians.
The divided town of Mitrovica was the scene of fierce fighting between the two ethnic groups in March