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Switek
12-19-2006, 06:18 AM
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Libya sentences medics to death
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The medics will have a second and final right of appeal

A Libyan court has sentenced five Bulgarian nurses and a Palestinian doctor to death for knowingly infecting hundreds of Libyan children with HIV.
The medics have been in detention since 1999, during which time 52 of the 426 infected children have died of Aids.

The nurses and doctor were sentenced to death in 2004, but the Supreme Court quashed the ruling after protests over the fairness of the trial.

The defendants say they are being made scapegoats for unhygienic hospitals.

Defence lawyers said the medics would appeal against the new verdict, expected to be the final appeal allowed under Libyan law.

The defence team told the court that the HIV virus was present in the hospital, in the town of Benghazi, before the nurses began working there in 1998.

Celebrations

Western nations had backed the medics' case, calling for their release.

Bulgarian officials quickly condemned the verdicts. Foreign Minister Ivailo Kalfin described the ruling as "deeply disappointing".

"Justice has been done. They should be executed quickly"
Subhy Abdullah
Father

And EU Justice Commissioner Franco Frattini expressed his shock at the verdict and called for the decision to be reviewed, the AFP news agency reported.

Parents of the infected children said they were happy with the verdicts.

Some cried out in court as the verdicts were delivered, while others were gathered outside carrying banners.

"Justice has been done. We are happy," said Subhy Abdullah, whose seven-year-old daughter died of Aids.

"They should be executed quickly," he told the ******* news agency.

Evidence

The medics protested their innocence throughout the case, retracting confessions that they said were obtained under torture.

Medical experts including the French co-discoverer of the HIV virus had testified on behalf of the medics.

And a study of some of the patients' blood, published in the scientific journal Nature, backed the theory that poor hygiene was the cause of the outbreak.

But the Nature study was published too late to be considered in the trial.

Judge Mahmoud Haouissa announced the verdict in a court in the Libyan capital, Tripoli.

"In the name of the people and after reviewing the documents and hearing the arguments by lawyers of both sides, the court decided on death sentences," he said.

"They caused the spread of the disease that caused the death of more than one person."

Libya has asked for 10m euros (£6.7m) compensation to be paid to each of the families of victims, suggesting the medics' death sentences could be commuted in return.

But Bulgaria has rejected the proposal, saying any payment would be seen as an admission of guilt.

BBC (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/6192599.stm)

dangerclose
12-19-2006, 08:10 AM
and their motivation for infecting children with HIV would be ..... ??

DeathRider
12-19-2006, 09:20 AM
Kill em all

2Sheds_Jackson
12-19-2006, 12:08 PM
and their motivation for infecting children with HIV would be ..... ??

My thoughts exactly. Normally one looks for motive and opportunity - well, they had the opportunity, but how in the world can you find a group of 6 medical professionals who will decide to murder hundreds children for no particular reason? I don't now what's more pathetic - the Libyan "justice" system, or the Libyans who allow themselves to be spoon fed such easy answers.

toki
12-19-2006, 02:49 PM
My thoughts exactly. Normally one looks for motive and opportunity - well, they had the opportunity, but how in the world can you find a group of 6 medical professionals who will decide to murder hundreds children for no particular reason? I don't now what's more pathetic - the Libyan "justice" system, or the Libyans who allow themselves to be spoon fed such easy answers.

I think it was discussed here in the media today. Some of the infections happened before they arrived and the overall working conditions/hygiene etc. made it quite impossible to guarantee proper procedures. Scapegoats. They should have run away their first day, that was their problem. Maybe they were too naive.

Switek
12-19-2006, 03:49 PM
Seems Lybia raise stake. Bulgaria will be EU member soon...


Libya firm on HIV death sentences
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The group, who deny the charges, have been in jail since 1999

Libya says that it will not bow to international pressure over death sentences passed on five Bulgarian nurses and a Palestinian doctor.

The group were sentenced by a court in Tripoli for knowingly infecting hundreds of Libyan children with HIV.

The sentences have drawn international criticism, while academic bodies have argued that the guilty verdicts run counter to scientific evidence.

But Libya's foreign minister said it was now up to Libya's Supreme Court.

"Libya will never deal with such pressure from any side - from America, from Europe, from anywhere," Abdurrahman Shalgham said.

We urge the Libyan authorities to intervene at once
Statement from Bulgarian president and prime minister

Bulgarians protest at verdict (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/6194415.stm)
In quotes: Reaction to verdict (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/in_depth/6192883.stm)
Study backs accused medics (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/6213054.stm)


"No-one can intervene in our justice - no-one. Even our leader, Colonel Gaddafi, can't intervene. That should be quite clear."

The group, all of whom deny the charges, were sentenced to death in 2004, but the Supreme Court quashed the ruling after protests over the fairness of the trial.

Defence lawyers said the medics would file an appeal against the new verdict with the Supreme Court within 60 days.

The medics have been in detention since 1999, during which time 52 of the 426 infected children have died of Aids.

'Absurd sentences'

The decision was handed down by a court in the capital, Tripoli.

SEVEN YEARS IN CUSTODY
1999: Nineteen Bulgarian medical workers arrested at Benghazi hospital after outbreak of HIV/Aids among children
2000: Five Bulgarian women nurses and Bulgarian male doctor go on trial along with a Palestinian doctor
2004-05: Libya convicts and sentences the five nurses and Palestinian to death; retrial subsequently ordered
2006: The nurses and Palestinian doctor are convicted and sentenced to death again

Full timeline (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/6192439.stm)
Medics case Q & A (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/4761131.stm)
Bulgarian officials quickly condemned the verdicts. A statement released jointly by Bulgarian President Georgy Parvanov and Prime Minister Sergey Stanishev called the court case "compromised".

"We urge the Libyan authorities to intervene at once, speedily review this ruling, overturn the absurd sentences and release the Bulgarian nurses and the Palestinian doctor," they said.

Bulgaria's parliamentary speaker, Georgi Pirinski, said that the sentencing was "an attempt to cover up the real culprits and the real reasons for the Aids outbreak".

EU Justice Commissioner Franco Frattini expressed his shock at the verdict, while the White House said it was "disappointed".

A spokesman for the UN human rights office said that there were "some very serious concerns about the fairness of the trial".

But parents of the infected children welcomed the news.

"Justice has been done. We are happy," Subhy Abdullah, whose daughter Mona, 7, died from Aids contracted at the hospital, told ******* news agency. "They should be executed quickly."

'Outbreak predated medics'

The medics have protested their innocence throughout, retracting confessions that they said were obtained under torture and arguing that they are being made scapegoats for unhygienic hospitals.

The defence team told the court that the HIV virus was present in the hospital, in the town of Benghazi, before the nurses began working there in 1998.

Medical experts including the French co-discoverer of the HIV virus had testified on their behalf.

Oxford University in the UK said the verdict ran counter to findings by scientists from its Zoology Department.

A research team had concluded that "the subtype of HIV involved began infecting patients long before March 1998, the date the prosecution claims the crime began", a statement from the university said.

Libya has asked for 10m euros (£6.7m) compensation to be paid to each of the families of victims, suggesting the death sentences could be commuted in return.

But Bulgaria has rejected the proposal, saying any payment would be seen as an admission of guilt.
BBC (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/6194325.stm)

dacanadianbomb
12-20-2006, 01:38 AM
My thoughts exactly. Normally one looks for motive and opportunity - well, they had the opportunity, but how in the world can you find a group of 6 medical professionals who will decide to murder hundreds children for no particular reason? I don't now what's more pathetic - the Libyan "justice" system, or the Libyans who allow themselves to be spoon fed such easy answers.


Very true.
Opportunity is a given.But Motive?
Unless these medics are 6 psychotics that came together like a pack of wolfs or something, I just cant find a real motive.
Its not as if they are going to have any financial gain from it or anything.
I would like to know how the court actually thought they proved that they had knowingly infected them, or infected them at all.

Masai
12-20-2006, 07:18 AM
these people just cant listen to reason...

the poor kids were infected before the docters even got there !

Durandal
12-20-2006, 07:54 AM
Damn, well at least they got a trial and were accused of a crime.

Better treatment than in the United States of foreign nationals accused of terrorism.

I say that in jest of course (more or less). It sounds like Libya is covering up its own problems by blaming these doctors.

Next thing you know, Libya is going to be holding people in jail for for or five years and NEVER charging them.

Litti
12-20-2006, 08:07 AM
Horrible to face the death penalty as a innocent person. These people were trying to save lives and now they are going to be murdered, because the goverment cant acknowledge its own flaws.

Mitch Rapp
12-20-2006, 12:33 PM
If you care about them sign this petition

http://www.petitiononline.com/bulgaria/petition.html

evanfitz
12-20-2006, 01:07 PM
pretty ridiculous, playing the blame game.

Tyler Durden 95
12-20-2006, 03:13 PM
These people are accused of being CIA or mossad agent sent to Lybia in order to spread AIDS there.

Even the worst James Bond director wouldn't want such a lame ass plot.

Let's guess Mr Khaddafi just want a good check in order to free the "hostages" (what they really are imo).

Not the first time Lybia blackmail the West.

Durandal
12-20-2006, 07:18 PM
If you care about them sign this petition

http://www.petitiononline.com/bulgaria/petition.html

I hear if you forward it to at least 5 of your friends an angel will get its wings too.

Switek
12-20-2006, 07:26 PM
If you care about them sign this petition

http://www.petitiononline.com/bulgaria/petition.html

I've already signed... They do not deserve to be executed!

thanks for the link woot

AK74
12-21-2006, 03:54 AM
shows that crazy countries doesnt deserve to be huamily treated , for they bite back at someone who helps them.

i recon leaving them alone for 20 years and there will be nothing left.