Spanish Prime Minister Orders all spanish troops out of Iraq

[Airborneranger4israel]

The spanish prime minister has ordered all spanish troops out of iraq. This just shows that the terrorists have succeded in thier goals. The spanish are wimps that refuse to stand up to terrorists.

[Hydro]

I think the fact that Spain was even in Iraq to begin with kind of negates the "wimp" factor. Besides, there are already two threads dedicated to this topic.

[Uninen]

Nice post you POS!

And also this is already posted here.............

And what comes to their pull out, well thats the will of the people, its called democrazy..... but i suspect that people like you dont know what that means.........

and anyhow....... what the point for Spanish people getting killed after all in Americas bid for world domination especially when OBL has offered Europe a truce......

:lol:

[Loco]

Airborneranger4israel, save us, pleae, save us!

[foxtrot023]

The spanish prime minister has ordered all spanish troops out of iraq. This just shows that the terrorists have succeded in thier goals. The spanish are wimps that refuse to stand up to terrorists.

You are an ill inform inbred idiot. Spanish troops have been standing and fighting in Iraq and in Afghanistan. We have between both countries over 80 casualties. We have been nothing but good allies on the war on terror, and even on the war in Iraq (and that war was not popular with spanish citizens). The newly elected PM is acting on a campaign promise made SEVERAL months ago. I don`t agree with it, but that is democracy. Yo say Spain surrended to terrorist, when we have been fighting them over 40 yrs with over 800 people dead from terrorists acts, and NEVER, even ONCE, did Spain negotiated with the terrorists.

You are nothing but a PUSSY, you bloody REMF, armchair amateur. You should change your name as you are an insult to anyone who has been in the armed forces, while you are nothing but a COWARD, insulting while never seen or heard a shot fired in anger.

[Brozozo]

The new Spanish PM strikes me as one of those wiener kids that got teased in school a lot by the bigger, cooler pics. He's just goofy looking, I really could see him crying. That's probably why he's a left-wing hippie-****...Oh well, sorry to see the Spaniards go, thanks for the help!

[J-10]

http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2004-04/19/xinsrc_010401190737341136792.jpg
On April 18, Spanish Prime Minister Jose Luis Rodriguez Zapatero orders 1300 Spanish troops pull out of Iraq as soon as possible. (Xinhua/AFP)

http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2004-04/19/content_1426417.htm

[Brozozo]

http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2004-04/19/xinsrc_010401190737341136792.jpg
On April 18, Spanish Prime Minister Jose Luis Rodriguez Zapatero orders 1300 Spanish troops pull out of Iraq as soon as possible. (Xinhua/AFP)

http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2004-04/19/content_1426417.htm

Damn, he looks like an unwrinkly version of my father in that pic!

[Uninen]

That face reminds me of Dracula.... :P

[foxtrot023]

Naw, you all got it wrong. In Spain we call him BAMBI

See:

BAMBI
http://i.disney.go.com/disneygo/DisneyVideos/animatedfilms/bambi/bigbam.gif

ZAPATERO

http://en.wikipedia.org/upload/thumb/b/ba/250px-Zapatero.jpg

They are both 2 peas in a pod. Both are gentle beings, totally unsuited to live in the modern world.....

[BlackRain]

It looks like Portugal may follow suit and abandon Iraq. It's amazing how easy it is to scare some European countries.

Imagine what would happen if the **** really hit the fan, they would be sucking their thumbs, rocking themselves in a corner.

All joking aside, I am sure these countries will regret this decision in the future. History does not look kindly upon such acts.

[Pille1234]

They are both 2 peas in a pod. Both are gentle beings, totally unsuited to live in the modern world.....
He made it to become Prime Minister in a modern world country, that's something only very few ppl can say for themselves

[Pille1234]

All joking aside, I am sure these countries will regret this decision in the future. History does not look kindly upon such acts.
Let's wait and see, history makes it's own judgement. Maybe noone will remember spain, and USA becomes great liberator of middle east; or gread idiot who screwed it up.

[foxtrot023]

It looks like Portugal may follow suit and abandon Iraq. It's amazing how easy it is to scare some European countries.

Imagine what would happen if the **** really hit the fan, they would be sucking their thumbs, rocking themselves in a corner.

All joking aside, I am sure these countries will regret this decision in the future. History does not look kindly upon such acts.

Black Rain,

You got it all wrong. Scared would have been that in the March 14th election day, almost no one would have gone voting due to fear. Scared would have been for people to be in their houses, not leaving them. WHAT happened is that % of people voting rose 10% from last election, and the day AFTER the 3/11 bomb attack, 30% of Spain`s population marched on the streets against terrorism, jammed packed in the streets (a terrorist wet dream, since a few bombs would have caused 1000s of casualties). Do not confuse a political decision with being scared. In Europe there are 2 wars being fought, war on Terror, which everyone supports, and the war in Iraq, which is very unpopular. They are not related, even if I support the war in Iraq (like the PP did), they are not same. Don`t confuse both.

I support our troops, and the coalition`s soldiers.

[foxtrot023]

They are both 2 peas in a pod. Both are gentle beings, totally unsuited to live in the modern world.....
He made it to become Prime Minister in a modern world country, that's something only very few ppl can say for themselves

Sorry but I disagree. Even when he is in his right to retrieve the spanish troops in Iraq, doing so so few days after the terrorists attacks will bring us blood and tears in the future, as the wrong message was given out (and I agree- he was saying that he would retreat the troops if he won since last year) to terrorists. How long before ETA tries something like this? We will not back off from the war on Terror, but it will cause us casualties and death to get that message to the terrorists thanks to the poor decisions and timing of Zapatero.

Regards

[BlackRain]

I not confused about anything.

Iraq is part of the war on terrorism if you chose to believe it or not.

You forget Saddam ordered the assignation of former President Bush, provided aid to terrorists (i.e. Abu Nidal), had terrorist bases in northern Iraq (i.e. Ansar al-Islam) , and provided support to Al Quiada (i.e. http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Articles/000/000/003/378fmxyz.asp )

If your country chooses not to fight in Iraq that is fine. I do not care.

However, most people around the world perceive this as weakness. It does not matter what your reasons are for pulling out of a war and going home.

It is the appearance of bending in the face of terrorism that matters, not to the USA, but to terrorists. They smell the blood in the water.


The Spanish interior ministry says the video warns Spain to withdraw its troops from Iraq and Afghanistan. The video says if Spain doesn't do so within a week, the country will face new attacks. http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/04/18/world/main612435.shtml

Fear....


The Spanish Socialist party later said it intended doubling its troop numbers in Afghanistan to 250 to show it was committed to fighting terrorism.

250 Spanish soldiers in Afghanistan? That's some real heavy duty committment to the war on terrorism!

[foxtrot023]

It is the appearance of bending in the face of terrorism that matters, not to the USA, but to terrorists. They smell the blood in the water.

And I agree with you in this, and that is why I think Zapatero is an idiot


You forget Saddam ordered the assignation of former President Bush, provided aid to terrorists (i.e. Abu Nidal), had terrorist bases in northern Iraq (i.e. Ansar al-Islam) , and provided support to Al Quiada I disagree. True they caught 1 terrorist in Iraq, not related with AQ, and the terrorists bases located in Northern Iraq were located in an area outside Saddam´s control (as was almost all of Iraqi`s Kurdistan). To most Europeans, the war in Iraq is not related to the war in Terrorism, and even now, some voices in the US are questioning the war in Iraq, as the main raison d`etre, or the main excuse, WMD, are nowhere to be found, and there are no conclusive proof of AQ-Saddam links (whom AQ hated).

One thing I want to make clear: I support deploying our troops in Iraq, and I think we should have stayed, or if not, to send those troops to Afghanistan.

[cut]

I think we should remember the vast majority of the coalition stand to gain nothing from the war in Iraq, unlike the US and to a lesser extent the UK. All of the European countries that you so enjoy criticising (such as Spain, France, Germany etc..) are in Afghanistan, stabelising the country that the terrorist attacks of 9/11 came from. And you people still think you can try and use the 9/11 card for the war in Iraq which had dodgy connections at best. Resolving the issue of Iraq will do nothing to stop al-qaeda.

When Bush and Blair go for UN backing, to ask for help in getting the country back on it's feet, countries such as Russia and France will send the troops they have promised, not because they are indebted to the US or feel like pleasing Bush like some of the coalition but because they are doing it for the Iraqis.

[BlackRain]

Cut: With all due respect, with the exception of Britian, can you tell me how many troops from Europe are actually deployed in the "war on terrorism" in Afghanistan? If the citizens of Europe really support this effort, why the anemic support?

There is no real "war on terrorism" other than the one being waged by the real coalition members. At it's maxium the International Security Assistance Force in Afganistan had 5,000 members from the entire world.

[Fox2]

When Bush and Blair go for UN backing, to ask for help in getting the country back on it's feet, countries such as Russia and France will send the troops they have promised, not because they are indebted to the US or feel like pleasing Bush like some of the coalition but because they are doing it for the Iraqis.

Don't fool yourself. They won't be doing it for moral reasons. If they join in, it will be to get a little bit of the business pie that is a rebuilding country.

[to free the oppressed]

http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2004-04/19/xinsrc_010401190737341136792.jpg
On April 18, Spanish Prime Minister Jose Luis Rodriguez Zapatero orders 1300 Spanish troops pull out of Iraq as soon as possible. (Xinhua/AFP)

http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2004-04/19/content_1426417.htm

Damn, he looks like an unwrinkly version of my father in that pic!\
You Fcuking Paon.

[Flagg]

When Bush and Blair go for UN backing, to ask for help in getting the country back on it's feet, countries such as Russia and France will send the troops they have promised, not because they are indebted to the US or feel like pleasing Bush like some of the coalition but because they are doing it for the Iraqis.

So they'll be doing it just out of the goodness of their heart?

And it wouldn't have anything to do with gaining influence and improving chances of receiving lucrative oil & infrastructure contracts?

Don't think so.....

[foxtrot023]

There is no real "war on terrorism" other than the one being waged by the real coalition members. At it's maxium the International Security Assistance Force in Afganistan had 5,000 members from the entire world.

Did you know that Spain offered the use of its mountain brigade for Afghanistan to the US? However, the US only requested logistical/medical/etc troops.

[SeanAshi]

his eyebrow scares me

[Ichhabe]

It looks like Portugal may follow suit and abandon Iraq. It's amazing how easy it is to scare some European countries.

Imagine what would happen if the **** really hit the fan, they would be sucking their thumbs, rocking themselves in a corner.

All joking aside, I am sure these countries will regret this decision in the future. History does not look kindly upon such acts.


First: the socialist in Spain went to election with the promise of pulling their soldiers out of Iraq. If they had'nt pulled them out, I bet some of you guys would have whined: "OOOHH.. Can't trust em politicians anymore.

Second: Spain fought against terror while you over in the USA only had the use of the word "terror" so you could us it in cross words as a 6 letters solution for "Something the ETA in Spain uses."

We have a saying in Norway: "Big words and fatty meat don't get stucked in the troath."

Many of you good damn chair commandos have never seen a day in the field. Swagging cool to sit behind your computer screen and spew out good advises. Now, put up, or shut up!!!

Next time I want to see your reply on this topic, your IP have better to be from the inside of Iraq.

[SR15]

his eyebrow scares me

http://www.fortunecity.com/bennyhills/mrbean/198/bean1.jpg

I am sure france has extra white flag

[cut]

When Bush and Blair go for UN backing, to ask for help in getting the country back on it's feet, countries such as Russia and France will send the troops they have promised, not because they are indebted to the US or feel like pleasing Bush like some of the coalition but because they are doing it for the Iraqis.

So they'll be doing it just out of the goodness of their heart?

And it wouldn't have anything to do with gaining influence and improving chances of receiving lucrative oil & infrastructure contracts?

Don't think so.....

well, that's debatable, but the way I see it, when (note not if) Bush and Blair seek out the UN (not because they have to but because it helps) there will be more troops in Iraq, hence less of a risk and therefore less need for a strong reason for the war.

What do the countries envolved in the balkans get out of it? Oil contracts?

[Jackel]

You've voted for him, now you've got him. :D

[MARINO]

OK: 250 in Afghanistan, In Iraq 1400,those 250 will be to help Afghan people and not to fight in Tora Bora muntains agaisnt terrorist. Well Iraqi people also needs help, so we will be not only giving our back to our allies but also to Iraqi people

http://www.elzapatazo.com/modules/coppermine/albums/userpics/10956/normal_cabecera_zapatero.jpg

[n.ignomo]

For God's sake don't talk about a politician just beacause of his damn face ! I think many of you saw 24 on tv no ? Don't you think the ex-wife looks like Rice and the former defense guy like Rumsfeld ? :slap:

[Loco]

his eyebrow scares me
Really? Are you the warriors trying to fight terrorists? And are you afraid of pointed eyebrows?
rofl

[Flagg]

well, that's debatable, but the way I see it, when (note not if) Bush and Blair seek out the UN (not because they have to but because it helps) there will be more troops in Iraq, hence less of a risk and therefore less need for a strong reason for the war.

What do the countries envolved in the balkans get out of it? Oil contracts?

No....what they got was stability in a region quite close to their own back yard

And if you think France and Russia would send a sizable force to Iraq that would help promote stability and credibility out of the goodness of their hearts, you have more faith in politicians than I do.

If I were running the show in France or Russia...not a single boot would hit the ground in Baghdad, unless my nation received political/economic concessions...BIG concessions.......nobody does anything for free