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nick_ua
12-27-2006, 02:35 AM
At the end World War II of approximately 600 thousand captivated Japanese soldiers and officers they were concluded in thousands of concentration camps in the territory, which was lengthened from Kamchatka in the east, for the Ural mountains to the European USSR - in the West and the pond of the Yenisey - on the north.

Story 1
Entrance into the Soviet Union
http://kiuchi.jpn.org/nob/images/3.jpg

Bitterness of defeat in the war, severe life in other country as the prisoner. It is painful to tell about this again me. Apparently, this fate fell out only to us - young people of the epoch Of [tayse].

Toilet under the open sky
http://kiuchi.jpn.org/nob/images/4.jpg

And the customary working days of the prisoner of war, to whom already something to lose, here flowed. The toilet under the open sky, [otgorozhennyy] by straw mats, was simultaneously the place of conversations of combat comrades, type: “I today guessed, and it fell out, that I soon to smog to return home” and T.p.<<“I guessed, and he leaves, that I will return home in 3 weeks…” - “Can, and really you will return…”>>

24 people in the room of 10 sq.m
http://kiuchi.jpn.org/nob/images/5.jpg

The night blindness
http://kiuchi.jpn.org/nob/images/6.jpg

In the last decade period of December, when stood terrible cold, began to appear the night blindness because of the shortage of vegetables and scant, monotonous nourishment. As a result my combat comrades constantly were encountered each other, when they walked at night into the toilet.<<TOILET>><< night blindness forced to be scolded into the toilet by feel the touch.>>

Complete tank of the dirtiness
http://kiuchi.jpn.org/nob/images/7.jpg

In the evenings we carried the tank, upward filled with dirtiness, and poured they into the large pit, dug out in the court. Interesting there was work.<<Look do not spill [kakashki].>>

Night duty
http://kiuchi.jpn.org/nob/images/8.jpg

On the hour was on duty at night in freezing weather -20 and accompanied to the toilet of those, who suffered night blindness. It was not easy. At the sight excellent moon before the sky I began to squelch with nose, and tears here froze on my cheeks.<<Full moon is too beautiful for the soldier of the lost country.>>

Baseball on the grass
http://kiuchi.jpn.org/nob/images/9.jpg

By forced march on the burning heat
http://kiuchi.jpn.org/nob/images/10.jpg

They swam off from the North Korean port To [khynnam] and the profit into the small Soviet port It [poset]. Then they were dragged through by the forced march, without the stoppages, with difficulty on the terribly long field of kilometers into 20. Certain this was not under the force, and they had time to eat till full mud.<<Soviet soldier: “Hey, [yabonskiy], [skare], [skare]!“(“hey, the Japanese, are sooner, it is sooner!“)>>

The rains loaded
http://kiuchi.jpn.org/nob/images/11.jpg

After arriving in one village, during two weeks they lived in the tents, which right through got wet as a result incessant rains. The woolen blankets, [postelennye] to the floor, were saturated with water, forcing to become damp our bodies and showers. Many blew up then its health.<<Tomorrow of prisoner - this is the interminable rain.>>

Unfunny pricks
http://kiuchi.jpn.org/nob/images/12.jpg


The rest 3 story here
http://kiuchi.jpn.org/en/nobindex.htm

goat89
12-27-2006, 02:39 AM
Interesting. Never heard of Jap POWs by the Russians. Thx!

Proud American
12-27-2006, 02:57 AM
Nick stop it!!! your making me look like a butt compared to how much stuff you find and post

Insane Tadpole
12-27-2006, 02:58 AM
doesn't look half as bad as how the japs treated their POW's

OttawaLoneWolf
12-27-2006, 03:36 AM
I read a new couple months ago; a Japanese soldier lived in Russian for many years finally came back home to Japan for a visit. He settled down in his new home and have kids. Very interesting story.

Insane Tadpole
12-27-2006, 03:50 AM
I read a new couple months ago; a Japanese soldier lived in Russian for many years finally came back home to Japan for a visit. He settled down in his new home and have kids. Very interesting story.
i heard about that... he had a russian wife... and he hadn't spoken japenese for many years so he forgotten it... or is that a different guy u think of?...

PrinzEugen
12-27-2006, 03:58 AM
Very interesting post, thanks alot.
I just read Hans von Luck's memoirs , http://www.amazon.co.uk/Panzer-Commander-Memoirs-Military-Paperbacks/dp/0304364010 , and in it he describes his years as a "guest" in the USSR.

nick_ua
12-27-2006, 04:03 AM
I read a new couple months ago; a Japanese soldier lived in Russian for many years finally came back home to Japan for a visit. He settled down in his new home and have kids. Very interesting story.
I believe in Ukriane :-)
there were some pictures posted here in MP

Opening Batsman
12-27-2006, 04:11 AM
doesn't look half as bad as how the japs treated their POW's

I'll say, maybe if they had gone through this first they wouldn't have been so ****ing eager to screw us over.

Switek
12-27-2006, 04:11 AM
Nice find Nick

Insane Tadpole
12-27-2006, 04:13 AM
I'll say, maybe if they had gone through this first they wouldn't have been so ****ing eager to screw us over.
there is a good mini series about it too... called shangi (i think) thats pretty good...

Opening Batsman
12-27-2006, 04:14 AM
there is a good mini series about it too... called shangi (i think) thats pretty good...

Changi. It is pretty good, but it still doesn't show anything near the full extent of the atrocities.

ShotOver
12-27-2006, 04:18 AM
No sympathy at all from here.

Insane Tadpole
12-27-2006, 04:21 AM
Changi. It is pretty good, but it still doesn't show anything near the full extent of the atrocities.
Close enought... I think it would be very difficult for someone to show to extent of the inhumanity of the japs during ww2

gaijinsamurai
12-27-2006, 05:30 AM
The father of one of my students was a prisoner of the Soviets for five years. He spent the whole time in the Siberian gulags. Interesting stories.

Aussie Sapper
12-27-2006, 06:08 AM
No sympathy at all from here.

I support you 100% on that.

I personally know some "old diggers" who to this day are still suffering as a result of how the japanese treated them as POW's in WW2.

:-(

Ghostryder
12-27-2006, 07:54 AM
Oh, so some of us are still harboring resentment about WWII?

Give me a break.

Insane Tadpole
12-27-2006, 07:55 AM
Oh, so some of us are still harboring resentment about WWII?

Give me a break.
Get lost.............

Opening Batsman
12-27-2006, 07:58 AM
Oh, so some of us are still harboring resentment about WWII?

Give me a break.

Yeah, how cruel of us not to like an enemy who systematically executed and worked to death thousands of our finest soldiers. Makes you understand why one of the Aussie officers recieving the Japanese surrender (can't remember where it was) made it a point in the ceremony that he did not recognise them as an honourable enemy.

Ghostryder
12-27-2006, 08:01 AM
Get lost.............

You know, I don't think I will.

You want to talk about the Bantaan Deathmarch, or the Rape of Nanjing go ahead, I'm all there with you.

But know that Japanese soldiers suffered too, and they were just as human as we were.

And that is what this thread is about.

Opening Batsman
12-27-2006, 08:05 AM
But know that Japanese soldiers suffered too, and they were just as human as we were.
I'm pretty forgiving, and understand that most of our former enemies were not bad people, but the Japanese soldiers of WW2 could still be in concentration camps today for all I care.

lightfire
12-27-2006, 08:07 AM
Nice pics! It seams jap POWs had better conditions than the german POWs.

Ghostryder
12-27-2006, 08:07 AM
I'm pretty forgiving, and understand that most of our former enemies were not bad people, but the Japanese soldiers of WW2 could still be in concentration camps today for all I care.

Well that's nice but keep it out of this thread, it;s not what i'm here to read.

Insane Tadpole
12-27-2006, 08:10 AM
But know that Japanese soldiers suffered too, and they were just as human as we were.

too bad they didn't act human...

gaijinsamurai
12-27-2006, 08:10 AM
X2, Ghostryder.
Perhaps while we're at it, ALL AUSTRALIANS can be punished for stealing aboriginal land?








Makes as much sense.

Opening Batsman
12-27-2006, 08:13 AM
X2, Ghostryder.
Perhaps while we're at it, ALL AUSTRALIANS can be punished for stealing aboriginal land?








Makes as much sense.

By all means, round up the people who massacred aboriginals and such and punish them. If it was possible, I'd do it myself. Don't put words in my mouth and say I'm blaming all Japanese - I'm not. Anyway, my point stands and now we can move on.

Insane Tadpole
12-27-2006, 08:14 AM
Auzzzie... good as avatar... got that video on my ipod

Ghostryder
12-27-2006, 08:14 AM
and now we can move on.

agreed
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gaijinsamurai
12-27-2006, 08:19 AM
Okay, but you wouldn't mind if every person who served in the Japanese forces in WWII were still in concentration camps?
That kind of talk is just inviting a flame war.
Not that I want one, I'd prefer to "just move on" too, but this kind of stupid talk about every Japanese soldier being a war criminal is not only untrue, but painting yourself in a "holier than though" corner, which will only come back to bite you in the arse.
But, yes, let's move on....the war's been over for over 60 years now.......

Insane Tadpole
12-27-2006, 08:22 AM
But, yes, let's move on....the war's been over for over 60 years now.......
sadly the scar's of it still remains

DaGreatRV
12-27-2006, 08:22 AM
doesn't look half as bad as how the japs treated their POW's


My Grandmother has been in a japanese concentration camp in Indonesia with her children.
Her first husband(father of two uncles and one aunt) was put to work at the Birma railroad, he died there.
My grandfather(who married my grandmother after the war) well I know he was a POW (he was in the army) but what exactly happened to him, is unknown to me. Wich means it can't be good.
And the reason for all this? Well because all of them where part white! :cantbeli:

And for those who want to know, my fathers side of the family still feels resentment towards the japanese.