View Full Version : CNN Video: Deadlock Russia's Forgotten War
SeanAshi
04-18-2004, 11:51 PM
http://video.kavkazcenter.com/clips/forgotten_war_p1.wmv
http://video.kavkazcenter.com/clips/forgotten_war_p2.wmv
http://video.kavkazcenter.com/clips/forgotten_war_p3.wmv
http://video.kavkazcenter.com/clips/forgotten_war_p4.wmv
http://video.kavkazcenter.com/clips/forgotten_war_p5.wmv
http://video.kavkazcenter.com/clips/forgotten_war_p6.wmv
Skaman
04-19-2004, 01:50 AM
This is a great post, a thoroughly engaging and interesting documentary.
Took one look at the address and decided not to bother even looking.
Uninen
04-19-2004, 02:42 AM
Took one look at the address and decided not to bother even looking.
http://www.cpj.org/news/2003/Lith01oct03na.html
New York, October 1, 2003?The Second District Court in the Lithuanian capital of Vilnius yesterday ruled that the State Security Department overstepped its authority when it shuttered the pro-independence Chechen Web site KavkazCenter on June 20.
The State Security Department disconnected and confiscated KavkazCenter's server at the private Vilnius-based Internet provider Elneta on June 20 because the Web site was allegedly spreading "terrorist propaganda," according to local and international press reports.
And anybody that hates Russians and other Europeans and thinks that KAKAZCENTER is a "good thing" browse trough it..........
Theres lots Anti-USA propaganda also in there....
:roll:
http://www.kavkaz.org.uk/eng/article.php?id=2677
Nonetheless, Al-Jazeera reported that the toll among Iraqis in Fallujah has topped 700 and another 1,200 have been injured, according to medical and US military personnel. Most of the victims are women and children.
I mean that most victim are know to be civilians (unarmed ones.......) but to say "woman and children"......
Oh well, enjoy the Chechnya "documentary".......
:P
American Patriot
04-19-2004, 02:53 AM
Is it true that 100,000 Russian troops died in both Chechen wars?
Uninen
04-19-2004, 02:57 AM
:lol:
No....
Certainly not......
I think that number of KIA:s is About -/+ 10 000 from all Chechenya related wars including Dagestan (for Russians...) But of Chechens ive heard that more than 200 000 have been killed....
might be propaganda.. i really dont know..
(source was PRO Chechen.....)
ikurinturbiini
04-19-2004, 03:34 AM
Kavkazcenter is propaganda. We know that. What about CNN? The thread title says "CNN video." I didn't watch the video because Kavkazcenter likes to show dead Russians and I don't like that. Is it CNN material?
n_shanygin
04-19-2004, 03:52 AM
yea, i just checked it out. It's CNN stuff.
SeanAshi
04-19-2004, 05:18 AM
Theres that word again "propaganda" you always dismiss it as propaganda if you don't agree with it, like all that bull**** in that Russian forum accusing America of war crimes, but thats propaganda too...Besides CNN made that documentary and it has not only the Chechen side but the Russian side as well.
ikurinturbiini
04-19-2004, 06:17 AM
Theres that word again "propaganda" you always dismiss it as propaganda if you don't agree with it, like all that bull**** in that Russian forum accusing America of war crimes, but thats propaganda too...Besides CNN made that documentary and it has not only the Chechen side but the Russian side as well.
Easy, easy. Even an unbiased documentary can be used for propaganda purposes. It's all in the perception.
Pictures don't lie, but what about the people who publish the pictures?
The site Kavkazcenter is propaganda. That does not mean that everything there is lies. The Russians have their own propaganda, and it's not all lies.
Every spinmeister knows that a lie is best when it is almost completely true. Almost.
RomanS
04-19-2004, 04:34 PM
RIP
To OMON from PERM
Chaikovski - Berezniki - Perm
we're with you brothers
UkrainianAmerican
04-19-2004, 04:36 PM
Ikurintu
Your avatar is not that funny. :bash:
RomanS
04-19-2004, 04:43 PM
Ikurintu
I agree with Russian American
it is offensive to us.
Rantanplan
04-19-2004, 04:45 PM
Ikurintu
Your avatar is not that funny. :bash:
What does it mean? Homo instead of Omon?
UkrainianAmerican
04-19-2004, 04:50 PM
Ikurintu
Your avatar is not that funny. :bash:
What does it mean? Homo instead of Omon?
yes.
Rantanplan
04-19-2004, 04:52 PM
Ikurintu
Your avatar is not that funny. :bash:
What does it mean? Homo instead of Omon?
yes.
What a Faggot :lol:
ikurinturbiini
04-19-2004, 05:43 PM
Ikurintu
Your avatar is not that funny. :bash:
You're right. The original is much funnier.
RomanS
04-19-2004, 07:07 PM
What is the point of your avatar? And why is it deformed like this?
UkrainianAmerican
04-19-2004, 08:34 PM
Ikurintu
Your avatar is not that funny. :bash:
You're right. The original is much funnier.
:roll:
You are easily amusable aren't you.
ßå$tĮТHÏ¿ð
04-19-2004, 09:13 PM
What is the point of your avatar? And why is it deformed like this?
if anything its probably ment to piss of russian posters on the forum.
Spearin
04-19-2004, 10:04 PM
Every form of media is propoganda to someone.
ikurinturbiini
04-20-2004, 03:09 AM
What is the point of your avatar? And why is it deformed like this?
if anything its probably ment to piss of russian posters on the forum.
Nay. The one I had before (that the guys didn't like) was a silly joke. The one I have now is the original OMON patch, stretched vertically to better accomodate to the 150x150 avatar size.
No offence, guys. Take my interest in your language as a compliment. Russian is way too difficult to pick up just like that, but at least I have the letters under control. Sorta.
Off to a PECTOPAH for some lunch. :)
(edited for missing article)
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