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Uninen
04-19-2004, 11:35 PM
I just heard on the news, they said that Honduras has 400 troops in there and that those troops will be pulled out.

Uninen
04-19-2004, 11:42 PM
Link! (http://www.abc.net.au/news/newsitems/s1067447.htm)

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Honduras to end Iraq troop commitment

Honduras has no plans to prolong its troops' Iraq tour beyond the scheduled return in July, President Ricardo Maduro said Tuesday.

"For now, there is no plan to seek an extension," Maduro told reporters.

"That means they will return in July."

The Central American country has 370 troops in Iraq under Spanish command.

Mr Maduro said, however, his commitment to the United States to stay until July has nothing to do with any decision on Spain's part to withdraws its soldiers beforehand.

Spanish prime-minister-elect Jose Luis Rodriguez Zapatero vowed to keep his pre-election pledge that, barring new developments in Iraq, Spain's 1,300 troops in Iraq "will return home" before June 30, the date the United States has promised to hand power over to an Iraqi provisional government.

He reiterated his pledge after Thursday's bombing killed 200 Madrid commuters in an attack linked to Al Qaeda.

Honduras deployed troops to Iraq in August and January, following requests from Washington, and posted reinforcements in February.

"The people of Honduras, the government and the Congress," could, however, change that deadline, he said.

"For now, that is not the case," he said.

-- AFP

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seruriermarshal
04-20-2004, 12:07 AM
Yes , Honduras now left Iraq , nobody need them ...... Study Spain .

mustamato
04-20-2004, 12:28 AM
nobody need them .......

US doesn´t need rest of the worlds troops in Iraq, but they do need the political
support of the rest of the world. And also having non-US troops in Iraq makes
it a "coalition" and not a US-only occupation. But well, in 30 years nobody will
say that "the coalition occupied Iraq", they will say that USA did. There was a
coalition in Vietnam as well, who remembers that?

I heard btw that Saddams palace in Baghdad is going to be a US embassy, with
a staff of 3000 people. Only 3000 :roll:

seruriermarshal
04-20-2004, 02:42 AM
nobody need them .......

US doesn´t need rest of the worlds troops in Iraq, but they do need the political
support of the rest of the world. And also having non-US troops in Iraq makes
it a "coalition" and not a US-only occupation. But well, in 30 years nobody will
say that "the coalition occupied Iraq", they will say that USA did. There was a
coalition in Vietnam as well, who remembers that?

I heard btw that Saddams palace in Baghdad is going to be a US embassy, with
a staff of 3000 people. Only 3000 :roll:

Ok , I believe allies will left Iraq at last , nobody hope stay in Iraq , but now they must stay in there .

tony6
04-20-2004, 02:58 AM
US doesn´t need rest of the worlds troops in Iraq, but they do need the political
support of the rest of the world. And also having non-US troops in Iraq makes
it a "coalition" and not a US-only occupation. But well, in 30 years nobody will
say that "the coalition occupied Iraq", they will say that USA did. There was a
coalition in Vietnam as well, who remembers that?
You got a point here, mate.
I wonder what are they going to do to replace Spanish soldiers.
I bet that Uncle Sam ask for more Polish troops.
This week 6 soldiers of multinational division returned home with "battlefield stress" effects after few nights of hevy fighting with Al Sadr's militia. There were also some Polish among them. The problem is (like one of Polish soldiers said) that there are to less of them and during the fight they simply cannot exchange (some of them fight while some of them rest) and they don't sleep at all.

HELEX
04-20-2004, 10:52 AM
Well, most of the "willing" were bought anyway.... :lol:

Most of the "Allies" were from Country whose names are unknown to the average American(Well, ok... nearly all the countrys are unknown to the average American).

cut
04-20-2004, 10:55 AM
nobody need them .......

US doesn´t need rest of the worlds troops in Iraq, but they do need the political
support of the rest of the world. And also having non-US troops in Iraq makes
it a "coalition" and not a US-only occupation. But well, in 30 years nobody will
say that "the coalition occupied Iraq", they will say that USA did. There was a
coalition in Vietnam as well, who remembers that?

I heard btw that Saddams palace in Baghdad is going to be a US embassy, with
a staff of 3000 people. Only 3000 :roll:

when the government is set up the US embassy will still be bigger then the iraqi government. Telling isn't it?

mack pl
04-20-2004, 12:01 PM
I bet that Uncle Sam ask for more Polish troops.
I dont think US ask us for more soldier, because they dont need more soldiers here.Im guessing they will sent theirs soldiers to Najaf, and Diwaniyah.Maybe our zone in Iraq will be smaller after that, but who cares.We cannot changed our military budget for this year Im guess.For this operation we spent -308 milions PLN(Im not sure), so If USA ask us for help they must give us money, but I doubt it.Regards.

mustamato
04-21-2004, 02:18 AM
http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/21773741-F60B-41EF-9BDE-D6954414B6A1.htm

And now Dominican Republic as well. These three countries, Spain, Honduras
and Dominican Republic means 2070 (1400 + 370 + 300) coalition soldiers less
in Iraq that must be replaced somehow. Let´s see if the two other Spanish-speaking
states, Nicaragua and El Salvador will follow the other countries example.

fdt
04-21-2004, 02:37 AM
Well, most of the "willing" were bought anyway.... :lol:

Most of the "Allies" were from Country whose names are unknown to the average American(Well, ok... nearly all the countrys are unknown to the average American).I would be very grateful for giving me some examples... sums, benefits or anything else that was a price ...

GrantT
04-21-2004, 03:32 AM
Most of the "Allies" were from Country whose names are unknown to the average American(Well, ok... nearly all the countrys are unknown to the average American).

Anti-American stereotyping from HELEX? Surely not. :roll:

Uninen
04-21-2004, 03:57 AM
There was actually a test about this..... 25% (+/-) of American university students could not place USA in a world map to its real place..... rofl

But its not like this is anykind of topic here.. the breaking up of "the coalition of willings" is..... i guess they arent that "willing" any more as they see the **** everyday that Iraqis dont want the American style "freedom".

HELEX
04-21-2004, 04:27 AM
There was also a Study that said 30% of the Americans are thinking Adolf hitler is the german President now. :roll:

Uninen
04-21-2004, 04:35 AM
There was also a Study that said 30% of the Americans are thinking Adolf hitler is the german President now. :roll:

:slap:

Flagg
04-21-2004, 04:44 AM
There was actually a test about this..... 25% (+/-) of American university students could not place USA in a world map to its real place.....

source please.....


There was also a Study that said 30% of the Americans are thinking Adolf hitler is the german President now.

source please....

There was also a study of forum trolls(HELEX & Uninen, that means YOU) that said 100% couldn't find their ***** even with the help of directions and a magnifying glass ;)

Uninen
04-21-2004, 04:51 AM
There was actually a test about this..... 25% (+/-) of American university students could not place USA in a world map to its real place.....

source please.....


It was "while back" about 5 years, if not more... and also i dont have any clue that how is this "study called as" but i guess it was a partr of some bigger study of quality of education.

And the source was Radio News... (from which i heard of this, but the Radios source was some AMERICAN STUDY.)

Dave the Dawg
04-21-2004, 12:53 PM
There was actually a test about this..... 25% (+/-) of American university students could not place USA in a world map to its real place.....

source please.....


It was "while back" about 5 years, if not more... and also i dont have any clue that how is this "study called as" but i guess it was a partr of some bigger study of quality of education.

And the source was Radio News... (from which i heard of this, but the Radios source was some AMERICAN STUDY.)


So, in smugly sitting in front of a keyboard calling other people ignorant, you rely on a vaguely remembered story you heard somewhere, reporting on a study done sometime you can't remember.

Meanwhile, the actual authoritative study on geographic illiteracy (a) was easy to find without leaving the comfort of your easy chair, (b) was a survey of 18-24 year olds in nine countries, not of college students, (c) was done in 1988 and again in 2002, and (d) had results which, while demonstrating a woeful geographic illiteracy on the part of young people, do not support your half-assed and half-remembered comments. I wonder if I should bother providing the source or see if you are smart enough to find it yourself based on the clues above.

BTW, the number of Americans who misidentified the US on a world map was 11%. Again, not college students, but 18-24 year olds in general. Still pretty pathetic.

But of course, as you said, the topic here isn't geographical illiteracy, but ".. the breaking up of "the coalition of willings" is..... i guess they arent that "willing" any more as they see the **** everyday that Iraqis dont want the American style "freedom".[/color]"

Of course, as is easily discoverable by reading the numerous articles posted on this very forum by, among others, our Spanish members, the ones who see the **** every day - the Spanish and other coalition soldiers - are more supportive of the mission than the Socialist politicians recalling them:
...ordinary soldiers said the overwhelming majority of their comrades opposed Prime Minister Jose Luis Rodriguez Zapatero's sudden decision to bring home the 1,432-strong contingent based here and in the nearby Shiite Muslim holy city of Najaf.

"I feel satisfied with the five months I spent here. For me it was a great professional experience and I would do it again," said Captain Jose Miguel Garces, who is scheduled to leave Iraq in one week.

Private Marco Antonio Laguna, who leaves in three days, said he was proud to have helped bring security to Iraqis as he showed a wound in his hand sustained in an attack on his patrol 12 days ago by militia loyal to wanted Shiite radical leader Moqtada Sadr

On the streets of Diwaniyah some Iraqis also felt that Spain was caving in to "terrorism both at home and in Iraq," and that the troop pullout would lead to lawlessness and would leave them at the mercy of mobs and militias.

Some soldiers felt they were leaving with a lot of work still to be done in helping Iraqis rebuild their country.
http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=12856

But that doesn't fit your anti-American meta-narrative, so I guess you should stick to al-Jazeerah.

BlackRain
04-21-2004, 01:14 PM
Well, most of the "willing" were bought anyway.... :lol:

Most of the "Allies" were from Country whose names are unknown to the average American(Well, ok... nearly all the countrys are unknown to the average American).

Just what you expected from a horse's ass .... horse ****.


And...

Uninen: Before you become critical of the USA, why don't you have the balls to put your homeland under your Username? Is there some thing shameful about where you come from?