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MaDuce
04-20-2004, 04:03 PM
Here are some quotes from the 'tolerant', 'liberal', 'progressive' people of the left:
"I hope his wife feeds him lots of eggs and butter and he dies early like many black men do, of heart disease. ... He is an absolutely reprehensible person."
--USA Today Columnist Julianne Malveaux on Justice Clarence Thomas
"If there is...justice, he'll get AIDS, or one of his grandchildren will get it."
--National Public Radio's (NPR) Nina Totenberg on Sen. Jesse Helms
"[I]t may take the destruction of Western Civilization to allow the rest of the world to really emerge as a free and brotherly society."
--Newly elected president of that hot-bed of collectivist agitation, The World Council of Churches, Andrew Young
"In South Africa we'd call it apartheid. In Nazi Germany we'd call it Fascism. Here [in the U.S.] we call it conservatism. These people are attacking the poor."
--"Reverend" Jesse Jackson [who wears $3000 suits -- and spends hundreds of thousand of $ on his mistress as hush money for keeping quiet about the bastard he fathered -- while bemoaning the fate of the poor & preaching"Christian" morality"
"Fundamental, Bible-believing people do not have the right to indoctrinate their children in their religious beliefs because we, the state, are preparing them for the year 2000, when America will be part of a one-world global society and their children will not fit in."
--Former Democratic Congressman Peter Hoagland......does this sound familiar?? Communism anyone???? Suddenly the state owns your children??
"Our job is to give people not what they want, but what we think they ought to have."
--Former president of CBS News, Richard Salant
"I'll have those ******s voting Democratic for the next 200 years."
--Lyndon B. Johnson
"When you hear somebody doing it [criticizing the federal government], you ought to stand up and double up your fist and stick it in the sky and shout them down."
--Bill Clinton in a speech in Billings, Montana, 1 June '95......PRACTICE WHAT YOU PREACH BILLY BOY.
"We don't give a sh-- about what you have to say."
--Gloria Steinham, as she turned off the microphone when feminist Camille Paglia tried to voice a dissenting opinion
"You're fired, and your pension is forfeit."
--European Court of Justice (sic) to Bernard Connolly who wrote a book exposing European Union lies while acknowledging that what he'd written was true
"Suck my ****, you stupid ******. Shut the xxxx up, and get your black ass out of here, ******!"
--"Reverend" Jesse Jackson and his gang of thugs to Black conservative J. L. Peterson, when he tried to speak at an L.A. Trade Bureau Forum meeting. (Mr. Peterson is currently suing "Rev." Jackson for -- among other charges -- assault and battery, as he was also physically attacked.)
"I think you can be an honest person and lie about any number of things."
--Self-described 'unbiased broker of events,' and CBS anchorman, Dan Rather, when asked in an interview: "Do you think Clinton is an honest man?"
"Take the initiative .. whether the issue is promiscuity or recruiting the straight. ... Ten percent is not enough! Recruit, recruit, recruit!"
--Lesbian activist, Donna Minkowitz, writing in the paper, The Advocate, urging her comrades to recruit more of America's young into the homo****** "lifestyle."
"We must cure Americans of their opposition [to the perversion of homo******ity] whether they like it or not."
--"Gay" authors M. Kirk & H. Madsen in their book After the Ball ...
"We shall sodomize your sons, emblems of your feeble masculinity, of your shallow dreams and vulgar lies. ... Your sons shall become our minions and do our bidding. They will be recast in our image. They will come to crave and adore us."
--A vision of the future presented by the Boston Gay Community News in February 1987
"Lenin was an apostle of world peace whose ideas have had a profound influence on the course of contemporary history. ... [and] his ideals ... are in line with the U. N. charter."
--U. N. Secretary General U Thant in a speech given in 1970
"In order to stabilize world population, we must eliminate 350,000 people per day. It is a horrible thing to say, but it is just as bad not to say it."
--Socialist oceanographer, the late Jacques Cousteau
Dennis G
04-20-2004, 04:05 PM
Interesting
Wilco
04-20-2004, 04:08 PM
Very, makes me want to hit a liberal in the face with a shovel, anyone want to help?
Pille1234
04-20-2004, 04:18 PM
another fu<ked up thread started only for flaming, without any military relevance...
HELEX
04-20-2004, 04:27 PM
Anybody want to hear Bushisms? :roll:
And these quotes are out ouf context.
Fintin
04-20-2004, 04:28 PM
your out of context every time you open your hitler loving mouth
MaDuce
04-20-2004, 04:29 PM
Anybody want to hear Bushisms? :roll:
And these quotes are out ouf context.
In what way
HELEX
04-20-2004, 04:30 PM
your out of context every time you open your hitler loving mouth
rofl
Soooooo.... Im Hitler loving? Show me a quote.... :lol:
Fintin
04-20-2004, 04:31 PM
in the way you hump pigs
MaDuce
04-20-2004, 04:31 PM
"If there is...justice, he'll get AIDS, or one of his grandchildren will get it."
--National Public Radio's (NPR) Nina Totenberg on Sen. Jesse Helms
What context justifies this HELEX?
HELEX
04-20-2004, 04:46 PM
"If there is...justice, he'll get AIDS, or one of his grandchildren will get it."
--National Public Radio's (NPR) Nina Totenberg on Sen. Jesse Helms
What context justifies this HELEX?
For example a Context when the "he" just said the infected are responsible themself or they are sinners and it is gods will that they die. Or he just canceld some AIDS research Projects... normal republican crap.
Go, show me the context.
And the last quote of Cousteau... did you ever think about that? We are 6 Billion now and it will double very soon....
American Patriot
04-20-2004, 04:51 PM
Liberals are so stupid rofl
UkrainianAmerican
04-20-2004, 04:59 PM
Yeah, Dan Rather is a retard, who f*cked Hasan Ashrawi.
Need I say more?
Trident-za
04-20-2004, 05:02 PM
I'm pretty sure that if you really wanted you could compile an impressive list of quotes where people from ANY political affiliation say incredibly stupid things. You honestly think non-liberal people haven't said stupid things? :roll: :cantbeli:
JiJoMacLE45
04-20-2004, 05:10 PM
Jacques Cousteau is right though, we do need to kill a lot of people starting with the stupid.
UkrainianAmerican
04-20-2004, 05:12 PM
I read this book with 287 stuoidest things said from both sdies.
The Democrat ones were stupid. The republicna ones were ACTUALLY jokes!
I'm pretty sure that if you really wanted you could compile an impressive list of quotes where people from ANY political affiliation say incredibly stupid things. You honestly think non-liberal people haven't said stupid things? :roll: :cantbeli:
My thoughts exactely...besides, what's wrong with Cousteau's quote? Looks fairly realistic to me.
BTW 2 other things; some look like they were taken out of context, and others don't exactely sound 'liberal'. :roll:
UkrainianAmerican
04-20-2004, 05:22 PM
I'm pretty sure that if you really wanted you could compile an impressive list of quotes where people from ANY political affiliation say incredibly stupid things. You honestly think non-liberal people haven't said stupid things? :roll: :cantbeli:
My thoughts exactely...besides, what's wrong with Cousteau's quote? Looks fairly realistic to me.
BTW 2 other things; some look like they were taken out of context, and others don't exactely sound 'liberal'. :roll:
Thats the point silly dutch boy :P
They were said by "liberals"
You mean everyone in that list had a 'liberal' stamp in their passports? :roll: I mean, 'liberal' is not something definite like for example skin color or religion.
UkrainianAmerican
04-20-2004, 05:42 PM
You mean everyone in that list had a 'liberal' stamp in their passports? :roll:
Yep.
Mark_Aspen
04-20-2004, 05:54 PM
You only do your argument justice if you include the complete quote, and not what you want to show us, with liberal (no pun intended) use of ellipses (...)
Here's the actual Totenberg quote. Not friendly to Sen. Helms, but not quite as evil as you make out.
"I think he ought to be worried about what's going on in the Good Lord's mind, because if there is retributive justice, he'll get AIDS from a transfusion, or one of his grandchildren will get it."
rofl That's some nice editing.
Here's a good example of how you can edit crap:
"I want to kill every who tries to rape a woman and then I want to torture anyone who abducts little children."
Which can be changed into:
"I want to (...) rape a woman and then I want to torture (...) little children."
:lol:
Tane Angle
04-20-2004, 06:06 PM
I am fairly liberal on about half the issues, and fairly conservative on the other half, but that if we're going to start hitting liberals in the face with shovels, than you'd better hit me first.
By the way, I'd say the same thing if somebody showed up and started threating to beat up all the conservatives.
Promoting such senseless violence only hurts one's causes own credibility-and in politics, credibility is everything. People from both sides say stupid things, and both sides have quotes from the other taken out of context. That's why I'm no politician, that mudslinging, misquoting, backstabbing way isn't my style.
Also, please note that many of the objects of the harsh words were liberals also.
"We don't give a sh-- about what you have to say."
--Gloria Steinham, as she turned off the microphone when feminist Camille Paglia tried to voice a dissenting opinion
Gasp, is that another probable liberal who doesn't share her views?
Just because people are in the same "group," doesn't mean they agree on much of anything. For example, some murders happen to be conservatives. That doesn't, however, mean that all conservatives are murderers. Extremely far from it, from my humble experience. I'd say nearly all people on both sides of the aisle are good folks who mean well and do well. Both sides say stupid things, and sometimes both sides are stupid. Let's judge people one at a time, not as groups, shall we?
Pille1234, Trident-za, great posts. Have a good one all, and as always, just some thoughts...
American Patriot
04-20-2004, 06:06 PM
Not evil, stupid.
I am fairly liberal on about half the issues, and fairly conservative on the other half, but that if we're going to start hitting liberals in the face with shovels, than you'd better hit me first.
That's fine with me. Gives me more time to enjoy my unharmed face. ;)
Tane Angle
04-20-2004, 06:59 PM
p-)
UkrainianAmerican
04-20-2004, 07:25 PM
People from both sides say stupid things,...
A certain side much more often then the other side :P :P :P
Sir Zach of R.
04-20-2004, 07:26 PM
Some of those quotes are bogus, but Jesse Jackson gets me infuriated. That dude's a freak. With those close spaced eyes, huge forehead with a square mileage of 3,000. rofl
Abolith
04-20-2004, 07:27 PM
Personally I really don't care if a Liberal, Conservitive or other type is in charge of my country, county or state I just want them to start using their freakin noodle to run the place. :)
UkrainianAmerican
04-20-2004, 07:30 PM
Jesse Jackson also called NYC "Hymie-town"
Not too politically correct IMHO :|
gilgoul
04-21-2004, 05:56 AM
In order to stabilize world population, we must eliminate 350,000 people per day. It is a horrible thing to say, but it is just as bad not to say it."
--Socialist oceanographer, the late Jacques Cousteau
When the delirium is going on,
Jacques yves cousteau might have been anything but a socialist.
Former frigate enseigne in the Navy, he was know to be rather conservative.
As for the quote, i`d like to find your sources
:|
I don't like to see this kind of propaganda from either side.
Truthsayer
04-21-2004, 10:58 AM
Most.retarded.thread.ever.
ExtraT
04-21-2004, 01:42 PM
Well, quotes are rarely accurate.
However, lefties are known for one thing - extreme hypocrisy. For example, they routinely deny basic rights to people that don't share their views. And in the countries where they gain unchallanged power, they always turn to totalitarian methods.
For the most part, they are a pathetic bunch, that hide their selfish interests behind "high ideas" of equality, freedom, etc. This is usually caused by a deeply rooted inferiority complex. And the fact that such psychological complexes usually flourish in the less intelligent individuals explains the general lack of intelligence among the lefties. Which also explains the abundance of quotes demonstrating their stupidity. :)
In short: A good lefite, is a mute leftie. rofl rofl
chauncy republicans
04-21-2004, 02:01 PM
Well, quotes are rarely accurate.
However, lefties are known for one thing - extreme hypocrisy. For example, they routinely deny basic to people that don't share their views. And in the countries where they gain unchallanged power, they always turn to totalitarian methods.
For the most part, they are a pathetic bunch, that hide their selfish interests behind "high ideas" of equality, freedom, etc. This is usually caused by a deeply rooted inferiority complex. And the fact that such psychological complexes usually flourish in the less intelligent individuals explains the general lack of intelligence among the lefties. Which also explains the abundance of quotes demonstrating their stupidity. :)
In short: A good lefite, is a mute leftie. rofl rofl
Actually most intellectuals happen to be liberal. You should talk to the ones at MIT if you think lefties are unintelligent!
ExtraT
04-21-2004, 02:06 PM
Actually most intellectuals happen to be liberal. You should talk to the ones at MIT if you think lefties are unintelligent!
Since when does "intellectual" equal "intelligent"? In fact, history proves that intellectuals, as a group, are actually quite stupid. :)
Not to mention the abundance of stupid individual intellectuals (to prove that, you just have to talk to some of them).
Erik_MAA
04-21-2004, 02:33 PM
Doesn't this belong in Off-Topic?
Or did we change the forum to liberalquotes.net?
chauncy republicans
04-21-2004, 02:44 PM
Actually most intellectuals happen to be liberal. You should talk to the ones at MIT if you think lefties are unintelligent!
Since when does "intellectual" equal "intelligent"? In fact, history proves that intellectuals, as a group, are actually quite stupid. :)
Not to mention the abundance of stupid individual intellectuals (to prove that, you just have to talk to some of them).
Oh, and I see you know it all. So I dont waste any more of your prescious time I will drop this, after all some one of your impressive intellectual capacity probably has something better to do than troll forums.
pinkeye
04-21-2004, 03:04 PM
Actually most intellectuals happen to be liberal. You should talk to the ones at MIT if you think lefties are unintelligent!
Since when does "intellectual" equal "intelligent"? In fact, history proves that intellectuals, as a group, are actually quite stupid. :)
Not to mention the abundance of stupid individual intellectuals (to prove that, you just have to talk to some of them).
mon ami, your posts belong on the "i'm a dumb-ass" messageboard, not here.
ExtraT
04-21-2004, 03:04 PM
Oh, and I see you know it all. So I dont waste any more of your prescious time I will drop this, after all some one of your impressive intellectual capacity probably has something better to do than troll forums.
Why are you offended so much? Are you an intellectual??? :lol:
ExtraT just shut the hell up if you can't produce anything that's either humorous, makes sense, or actually adds something to the discussions. I thought we were past the crap you just managed to produce halfway page 2. :roll:
Milkman
04-21-2004, 09:51 PM
I like LBJ's quote, it is so damn true that I can appreciate the irony.
ExtraT
04-22-2004, 12:02 AM
I thought we were past the crap you just managed to produce halfway page 2. :roll:
Page 2? What did I write on page 2?
And why are you so protective of these self appointed "intellectuals"? Are you one of them?
BTW, you have repeatedly slandered my posts without actually disproving anything that I've written.
If you see that I've written something false, then go ahead and prove it.
ExtraT
04-22-2004, 12:25 AM
mon ami, your posts belong on the "i'm a dumb-ass" messageboard, not here.
Tell me, do you have anything to prove me wrong? Maybe, for starters, you can tell me of a role of "intellectuals" in both the French revolution and the Russian revoulusion? And maybe you can tell me what happened to these SOBs afterwards? Maybe you want to check the % of "intellectuals" in GULAGs in, say, 1937? Or, maybe you can tell me how many of them were killed in, say, 1918?
The fact is: "Intellectuals" are always sticking their noses where they aren't needed. Every time there is a revolution, or a bloody coup, or a civil war or some other ****, you can find these "intellectuals" in the middle of it all. And every time they think that they will not get hurt in the process, and every time they do.
So, a conclusion (not mine, by the way): Intellectuals, as a people, are stupid. They lack the brains for even simple self-preservation.
And if you listen to the garbage they put out everywhere (including this forum), then you can easily see that they are also individually stupid.
So, please, spare me your "dumb-ass" remarks.
weedman
04-22-2004, 08:19 AM
Ridiculous thread, there're dumb ass people everywhere, ie. Neocons :lol:
I thought we were past the crap you just managed to produce halfway page 2. :roll:
Page 2? What did I write on page 2?
And why are you so protective of these self appointed "intellectuals"? Are you one of them?
BTW, you have repeatedly slandered my posts without actually disproving anything that I've written.
If you see that I've written something false, then go ahead and prove it.
Oh I'm sorry...by 'we were past that on page 2' I meant 'we' the 'retarded intellectuals'. :roll:
First of all, the way you throw all 'lefties' in the big bucket of hypocrisy is... appaling.
Second, how you conclude that 'lefties with unchallenged power always turn to totalitarian methods', makes me really doubt your education.
Third, your second alinea on lefties is one of the most retarded stanzas ever produced by mankind. If you don't see that yourself then I will refer to one of Ichhabe's most popular lines: 'I pity you.'
Fourth, your conclusion is something Sixgun would say. :roll:
Last but not least; the way you talk about 'intellectuals' clearly shows you are not an intellectual person yourself.
But hey, don't let me burst your bubble of ignorance. :roll:
Note: get some ****ing history lessons.
Truthsayer
04-22-2004, 09:18 AM
Let's send all the 'lefties' to the 'gaschamber' so the world will be a better place, eh?
ExtraT
04-22-2004, 05:27 PM
First of all, the way you throw all 'lefties' in the big bucket of hypocrisy is... appaling.
Really? Can you show me a leftie who is not a hypocrite? Come on, don't be shy - put your money where your mouth is!
Second, how you conclude that 'lefties with unchallenged power always turn to totalitarian methods', makes me really doubt your education.
Do you have problems with reading, or something?
Coz if you do, I can break it all word by word, so that you understand.
Third, your second alinea on lefties is one of the most retarded stanzas ever produced by mankind. If you don't see that yourself then I will refer to one of Ichhabe's most popular lines: 'I pity you.'
And you say that because.... ? Besides slandering me with empty insults, can you offer me any explanation why I'm wrong?
BTW, the way you "prove" your idea is a typical leftie method: Pick an empty statement, repeat it 100 times, and then call it a postulate. The world is full of these leftie postulates.
Last but not least; the way you talk about 'intellectuals' clearly shows you are not an intellectual person yourself.
There are intellectuals, and there are "intellectuals". If you can's see the difference between the two, then say so and I'll explain.
But hey, don't let me burst your bubble of ignorance. :roll:
Go worry about your bubbles first. I can take care of my own.
Note: get some f*** history lessons.
And I suppose I can get them from you? By listening to your empty insults and "postulating"??
In short - you, sir, are a typical modern leftie: low on brains, and high on unquestionable self-righteousness.
I guess the local zoo is growing even faster than I previously imagined :)
First of all, the way you throw all 'lefties' in the big bucket of hypocrisy is... appaling.
Really? Can you show me a leftie who is not a hypocrite? Come on, don't be shy - put your money where your mouth is!
Buddha, Christ, Gandhi.
Can you show me a rightie who is not a hypocrite?
I would try and respond to that gibberish...but it's pointless. You are beyond help. :roll:
Do you have any idea how weak your argument is?!
Really? Can you show me a leftie who is not a hypocrite? Come on, don't be shy - put your money where your mouth is!
So according to your statement there isn't a single leftie that isn't a hypocrite... Well like FRO has said: Ghandi. I could list more, hell I could even start listing forum members, but you made it easy for me. I had to list only one.
Do you have problems with reading, or something?
Coz if you do, I can break it all word by word, so that you understand.
Oh right... I don't have a problem with understanding the sentence that lefties with unchallenged power always turn to totalitarian methods. Do you have any idea how stupid that sentence sounds? Guess what part of the definition of a totalitarian regime is? Yup...unchallenged power. :roll: Guess what! All rightwingers with unchallenged power always turn to totalitarian methods too! Otherwise they couldn't be classed as having unchallenged power. Wohoo.
Do you have problems with reading, or something?
Coz if you do, I can break it all word by word, so that you understand.
Okay... your 'brilliant' piece of proza about lefties:
For the most part, they are a pathetic bunch, that hide their selfish interests behind "high ideas" of equality, freedom, etc.This is usually caused by a deeply rooted inferiority complex. And the fact that such psychological complexes usually flourish in the less intelligent individuals explains the general lack of intelligence among the lefties. Which also explains the abundance of quotes demonstrating their stupidity.
Do you have a psychology degree to back up any of your broad generalisations on leftie behaviour? High ideas of equality, freedom caused by a deeply routed inferiority complex. WTF?! Which chemical reaction went wrong in your brain to cause such a thought?!
hide their selfish interests behidn "high ideas". Riiight. Everyone with good ideas and care for other people is just using it for selfish interests! Mother Teresa was just a greedy old woman, and Mahatma Gandhi was just a war-mongering dictator who wanted his own land. :roll:
And the fact that such psychological complexes usually flourish in the less intelligent individuals explains the general lack of intelligence among the lefties. Oh please...just shoot me. First of all, at least in the Netherlands, it's normally that statistically the more intelligent people (higher educations and such) are usually more leftwing than people with lower educations. 'Lack of intelligence among lefties'...the only lack of intelligence among lefties is the left side of your brain.
And postulates...WTF? The only reason I can't really be arsed to spent much time on reacting to you is just because it would be a waste. Besides... you're talking about...ME...using empty statements. How does the saying go? Pot...kettle...black? Something like that?
There are intellectuals, and there are "intellectuals". If you can's see the difference between the two, then say so and I'll explain.
Err.... I'm really missing your point. So far you were pretty quick to talk about entire groups like 'all lefties' and 'all intellectuals'.
Go worry about your bubbles first. I can take care of my own.
Yeah it seems... your bubble is heavily armoured and reinforced by the power of ignorance!
Note: get some f*** history lessons.
And I suppose I can get them from you? By listening to your empty insults and "postulating"??
In short - you, sir, are a typical modern leftie: low on brains, and high on unquestionable self-righteousness.
I guess the local zoo is growing even faster than I previously imagined :)[/quote]
Oh please.. 'low on brains'...some people would disagree. 'High on unquestionable self-righteousness'. Not high on it, but compared to you even a mental midget couldn't help being it.
BTW the history lesson remark was about your rather laughable remark here:
Tell me, do you have anything to prove me wrong? Maybe, for starters, you can tell me of a role of "intellectuals" in both the French revolution and the Russian revoulusion? And maybe you can tell me what happened to these SOBs afterwards? Maybe you want to check the % of "intellectuals" in GULAGs in, say, 1937? Or, maybe you can tell me how many of them were killed in, say, 1918?
Yes...many were killedd. Do you know why? Because they were a threat to totalitarians. Because they had the intelligence to see what was going on instead of just bowing their heads like sheep.
The fact is: "Intellectuals" are always sticking their noses where they aren't needed. Every time there is a revolution, or a bloody coup, or a civil war or some other ****, you can find these "intellectuals" in the middle of it all. And every time they think that they will not get hurt in the process, and every time they do.
Oh right...it's their fault they're working for freedom... Freedom of speech, freedom of media...freedom of everything. Some people DIED fighting for the freedom for everyone in a country to say what they want. Some people DIED fighting for freedom of arts. But hey, they just stuck their noses where they weren't needed. Way to go to piss on their graves you disrespectfull prick. Stalin would be proud of you!
So, a conclusion (not mine, by the way): Intellectuals, as a people, are stupid. They lack the brains for even simple self-preservation.
Oh please... any idea how contradicting your statement is?!
Intellectual: an intellectual person.
And guess what the 1 word description of 'intellectual' is? Yup... smart. Not stupid. 'They lack the brains for even simple self-preservation'. If that's another piss at how some died for a bigger cause I'd say it's a rather weak description of 'sacrifice'. Would you want to say it at a soldiers funeral? 'Well..he just lacked the brains for simple self-preservation!'.
And if you listen to the garbage they put out everywhere (including this forum), then you can easily see that they are also individually stupid.
So by that statement you must be a leftie yourself? :roll:
Sincerely yours,
A pissed off leftie
ExtraT
04-22-2004, 10:36 PM
Buddha, Christ
Let's not bring religion into that. Or this can really turn nasty.
Gandhi.
In Russian, there is a good saying: Extremes easily turn into each other.
Today some people consider Gandhi holy - tomorrow the same people may curse his name.
Can you show me a rightie who is not a hypocrite?
Maybe. Maybe not. Non-hypocritical politicians are extremely rare. But righties (in democratic countries) have a big difference - they have certain "red lines" that they will not cross in order to acquire power. Lefties usually don't - they would go to any lengths to get to that power. An exampe of that you can clearly see in the current elections campaign in USA.
ExtraT
04-23-2004, 12:00 AM
I would try and respond to that gibberish...but it's pointless. You are beyond help. :roll:
Funny thing, I was about to say exactly the same thing about you.
So according to your statement there isn't a single leftie that isn't a hypocrite... Well like FRO has said: Ghandi.
And why, exactly, are you so sure about Ghandi?
Because you read his biography?
I could list more, hell I could even start listing forum members...
Forum members?? The Zoo, you mean??? Are you, by any chance, also going to list your beloved self? :cantbeli:
Oh right... I don't have a problem with understanding the sentence that lefties with unchallenged power always turn to totalitarian methods. Do you have any idea how stupid that sentence sounds?Guess what part of the definition of a totalitarian regime is? Yup...unchallenged power.
You must be one of these naive people that think that "free elections" are really free. rofl
And no, I wasn't talking about dictatorships (of course they are totalitarian, no matter who is in charge)
Do you have a psychology degree to back up any of your broad generalisations on leftie behaviour?
No, I've just seen a lot of lefties in my time. :) In fact, many more than I would have wanted to.
High ideas of equality, freedom caused by a deeply routed inferiority complex. WTF?! Which chemical reaction went wrong in your brain to cause such a thought?!
It's not in my brain, it's in yours - you have totally warped my words. Here is the original:
For the most part, they are a pathetic bunch, that hide their selfish interests behind "high ideas" of equality, freedom, etc. This is usually caused by a deeply rooted inferiority complex.
hide their selfish interests behidn "high ideas". Riiight. Everyone with good ideas and care for other people is just using it for selfish interests!
No, not everyone. Just those who start selling these ideas to get power. Which includes 100% of political lefties.
Mother Teresa was just a greedy old woman, and Mahatma Gandhi was just a war-mongering dictator who wanted his own land. :roll:
Don't stick these idols in my face. Because, after years of idolizing them, that's exactly what they have become - idols.
And another thing - don't bring religion in. Especially Christianity.
... in the Netherlands, it's normally that statistically the more intelligent people (higher educations and such) are usually more leftwing than people with lower educations.
Level of education is not indicative of intelligence. That, BTW, is the root of the difference between "intellectuals" and intellectuals, that you seem to have such great trouble to understand.
And postulates...WTF? The only reason I can't really be arsed to spent much time on reacting to you is just because it would be a waste.
Well, then, why do you bother to respond at all? Next time you see a post written by me, or anybody else that you don't like for that matter, just hold your breath, count to ten and don't post an empty, self serving, flame inducing post. You'll save a lot of people some trouble, and nerves.
Besides... you're talking about...ME...using empty statements....
...
I'm sorry, but that's complete bull****.
Oh please.. 'low on brains'...some people would disagree. 'High on unquestionable self-righteousness'. Not high on it, but compared to you even a mental midget couldn't help being it.
I guess you really are proud of yourself.
Well, go ahead - be proud. BTW, that fits the profile too :)
Yes...many were killedd. Do you know why? Because they were a threat to totalitarians. Because they had the intelligence to see what was going on instead of just bowing their heads like sheep.
You obviously have no idea about these things, do you? Don't worry, I'll spare you the explanations. Go live in your bubble - I don't play for deaf people.
Oh right...it's their fault they're working for freedom... Freedom of speech, freedom of media...freedom of everything.
More empty postulating. You seem to be one of these people that one day idolize somebody, and the next day curse them. Don't you have an opinion of your own? One that is not dictated to you by these "intellectuals"?
Some people DIED fighting for the freedom for everyone in a country to say what they want. Some people DIED fighting for freedom of arts.
And I say, most of these people were fighting for POWER. It's not necessarily a bad thing. But in many cases, everybody is better off without them.
If Stalin was bad, one can only imagine how bad would have been some of the scum he sent to Gulags. Like these "intellectuals" that advocated mass murder, "work armies", and the rest - all in the name of a "communist heaven" on all of the Earth.
If you can't reply to me without resorting to leftie rhetoric, please don't. I'm sick of it.
Sencerely NOT yours,
Tired rightie.
martinexsquaddie
04-23-2004, 04:42 AM
liberal open minded
Favouring individidual liberty Free trade and moderate political and social reform.
Soo your against individual liberty and moderate goverment :roll:
Possibly the reason liberals don't need to make a huge list of stupid quotes of there opponents is its obvious why they are bad news:(
selling off the railways in the UK :(
free market in russian that experement went well :(
hatred of gays and immigrants and assylum seekers ( very funny in the states not a huge number of native americans in far right groups :(
)
etc etc
Mr Gently Benevolent
04-23-2004, 05:21 AM
liberal open minded
Favouring individidual liberty Free trade and moderate political and social reform.
Soo your against individual liberty and moderate goverment :roll:
Possibly the reason liberals don't need to make a huge list of stupid quotes of there opponents is its obvious why they are bad news:(
selling off the railways in the UK :(
free market in russian that experement went well :(
hatred of gays and immigrants and assylum seekers ( very funny in the states not a huge number of native americans in far right groups :(
)
etc etc
Ha ha Martin there is a few I could add to that list gun control and the destruction of what were reasonable labour laws. I think many forget it was the people on the right who kicked off the now draconian gun laws we have in this country of course they were ably assisted by the left it was the Liberal party that refused to back any more control on firearms.
martinexsquaddie
04-23-2004, 07:35 AM
oh yes they even managed to balls that one up
shotgun certs before the ban allowed you own as many shotguns as you liked
post ban you had to hand all you extended magazine shotguns in :|
but if you did'nt feel like handing it it they had no register to prove you owned scary pump action shotgun :roll:
:cantbeli: :cantbeli: :cantbeli: :cantbeli: :cantbeli:
If Stalin was bad, one can only imagine how bad would have been some of the scum he sent to Gulags. Like these "intellectuals" that advocated mass murder, "work armies", and the rest - all in the name of a "communist heaven" on all of the Earth.
:cantbeli:
Like I said...you're a waste of time. :(
Now go and take 6 years of history lessons and then review look at some of the things you just managed to write. For crying out loud, it's really rediculous.
Note: I did more than read a biography on Gandhi, I wrote an entire essay on him once. So please, spare me your 'empty, self serving, flame inducing post'.
Note 2: Suggest you do some reading on what was going on in the Soviet Union between 1920-1940. :roll:
And you actually have the balls to call my stuff 'empty, self serving, flame inducing'. :roll:
ExtraT
04-23-2004, 04:26 PM
Note: I did more than read a biography on Gandhi, I wrote an entire essay on him once.
Wow. A whole essay! You must be really proud of yourself. rofl
It's now clear to me why are you so worked up over my rant about "intellectuals" - you are one of them. This means only one thing - talking to you is completely useless: you can't accept or even listen to anything that even slightly contradicts the nice little virtual world you have built inside your head.
Note 2: Suggest you do some reading on what was going on in the Soviet Union between 1920-1940. :roll:
I happened to have been born in USSR, and lived there till I was 13. As such, I'm fluent in Russian, and have access to material that you can't even imagine. So STFU, and go back into your zoo.
And you actually have the balls to call my stuff 'empty, self serving, flame inducing'. :roll:
Yes I do. Because that's exactly what it is.
*bashing head against wall*
You were born in the USSR...great. I suppose they gave you the USSR state-authorised history books then? :roll:
And why am I so worked up about your rant about 'intellectuals'...well...maybe because you're pissing all over the people that shaped the world we live in today. Or maybe you're painting an entire group with the wrong brush. Or maybe because you're just wasting bandwith. In fact you're a waste of everyone's time. :fork: I'm done with you. You're as stubborn anti-left as Sixgun.
ExtraT
04-23-2004, 04:43 PM
I'm done with you.
Does that mean I will never see any replies from you to my posts??
YEEEEEEEE-HAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl
Seriously, though: go pester someone else.
Buddha, Christ
Let's not bring religion into that. Or this can really turn nasty.
Oh, you mean it isn't nasty yet? My mistake. Sure looked it.
Gandhi.
In Russian, there is a good saying: Extremes easily turn into each other.
Today some people consider Gandhi holy - tomorrow the same people may curse his name.
And that makes him a hypocrite how?
Can you show me a rightie who is not a hypocrite?
Maybe. Maybe not. Non-hypocritical politicians are extremely rare. But righties (in democratic countries) have a big difference - they have certain "red lines" that they will not cross in order to acquire power.
Really? What are these redlines? I guess Hitler and Mussolini never crossed them, so those must be some pretty interesting lines. Both individuals led Facist parties (far-right) in (prior to there respective rises to power) democratic countries and they both crossed a heck of a lot of lines.
Lefties usually don't - they would go to any lengths to get to that power. An exampe of that you can clearly see in the current elections campaign in USA.
Really? And the right is also not going to these same lengths? Are we talking about the same election? Is there another USA somewhere around here that no one has told me about?
So, to sum up your arguement all lefties are hypocrites (and any proof of the opposite will be ignored without any substantive reason why) but not all righties are (asserted without any examples of non-hypocrtical righties).
And you call other people's posts empty?
Hello, Mr. Pot, I'd like to introduce you to Mr. Kettle.
wtf is this pissing contest about?
i my self consider myself right but i stand on the left on some issues. but god damn calm down.
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