Air action videos over the Aegean Sea

[Amateur]

Although not many people know it, the airspace over the Aegean sea is daily the theatre for some of the most ferocious mock dogfights in the world today, between Greek and Turkish pilots (*see note at the bottom).
Here are some HUD videos from greek F-16s and Mirage 2000
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_67QZDwUlZ4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ijpTePnxi1I
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ax5wHgYU9p4

Here's a HUD video from a turkish F-16
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1FJF5PD1uqM&mode=related&search=

Here's a "scramble" of two greek F-16s on "readiness" duty, taking off to intercept turkish aircraft.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q1QtxWqbNoQ

But there's more to it than dogfights. Here's some footage of low flying Phantoms and Corsairs during air-to-ground training
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_PF8A11AWTY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cmmcvb8rjG8

*Note: This is not intended to start a flame war, just to give some info for third parties: Disputes between Greece and Turkey regarding the Aegean airspace refer to two points: (a) national airspace and (b) FIR regulations in international airspace. On (a) the greek position is that greek airspace is 10 miles, while the turkish side only accepts 6 miles as greek airspace. On (b) Greece treats all aircraft entering the Athens Flight Information Region (FIR) (which includes all of the Aegean) without submitting flight plans according to ICAO as unidentified intruders, scrambling fighters to intercept them. The turkish position is that military aircraft flying in international airspace are not obliged to submit flight plans. I hope this was objective enough.

[dorian]

Other Turkish F-16 AVTRs

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zNhBZeD0bzM


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gyqq7lMyTnI


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OP4h0CdTJJY


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xfeRS_JpkZs

[Amateur]

And here are some HUD photos from greek aircraft

http://www.acig.org/artman/uploads/thk_f-16_intercepted_by_epa_m2000.jpg
a Turkish F-16 from a Mirage2000 MK2 HUD

http://www.acig.org/artman/uploads/epaf_mirage_fx_001.jpg
a Turkish F-16 from MirageF1 HUD


http://img231.imageshack.us/img231/263/pc20007444wd8ly.jpg
a very clear image of a Turkish F-16 photographed by camera (not HUD) of a Greek Fighter

http://img231.imageshack.us/img231/6582/leosotos007100019wt.jpg
Also very clear image this time from the HUD

http://img231.imageshack.us/img231/6780/115558631jikxkdph2vn.jpg
http://img66.imageshack.us/img66/425/115254117usouktph1rx.jpg
http://img90.imageshack.us/img90/3267/f16vsf163dy.jpg
http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/4213/turklock4aq6.jpg
Varius HUD images

http://img87.imageshack.us/img87/1579/agiosefustratios1ma6.jpg
this one shows the HUD from the Greek No.2, the Greek No.1 is in the Blue square and the Turk is in the red square. The island in the background is the greek island Agios Efstratios.

[AN_TPS_63A]

And here are some HUD photos from greek aircraft

http://www.acig.org/artman/uploads/thk_f-16_intercepted_by_epa_m2000.jpg
a Turkish F-16 from a Mirage2000 MK2 HUD

http://www.acig.org/artman/uploads/epaf_mirage_fx_001.jpg
a Turkish F-16 from MirageF1 HUD


http://img231.imageshack.us/img231/263/pc20007444wd8ly.jpg
a very clear image of a Turkish F-16 photographed by camera (not HUD) of a Greek Fighter

http://img231.imageshack.us/img231/6582/leosotos007100019wt.jpg
Also very clear image this time from the HUD

http://img231.imageshack.us/img231/6780/115558631jikxkdph2vn.jpg
http://img66.imageshack.us/img66/425/115254117usouktph1rx.jpg
http://img90.imageshack.us/img90/3267/f16vsf163dy.jpg
http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/4213/turklock4aq6.jpg
Varius HUD images

http://img87.imageshack.us/img87/1579/agiosefustratios1ma6.jpg
this one shows the HUD from the Greek No.2, the Greek No.1 is in the Blue square and the Turk is in the red square. The island in the background is the greek island Agios Efstratios.

Why is the frequency hidden from the HUD?

[GreekAmerican]

there is a very nice pic of a Greek F16 intercepting a Turkish F4 published by the newspaper VIMA back in 1996(?) I can't find it in my archives, anybody?

[Dark Avenger]

You mean the HUD view taken from the THK F-4's 6 o'clock low? I remember such a photo, but I don't have it.

[AN_TPS_63A]

You mean the HUD view taken from the THK F-4's 6 o'clock low? I remember such a photo, but I don't have it.


Yeah that was what I've meant, sorry for bad english.

[Kolokotronis]

Why is the frequency hidden from the HUD?

So that whatever unauthorized person (like you and me - and I can think of worse cases!) sees the photos, will not immediately know the RF channels used my the HAF in these situations!...

[Dark Avenger]

Welcome to the forum Gero mou. ;)

[AN_TPS_63A]

So that whatever unauthorized person (like you and me - and I can think of worse cases!) sees the photos, will not immediately know the RF channels used my the HAF in these situations!...

Well the communication is encrypted?

[mortthewiz]

very nice, thanks

[Amateur]

Well the communication is encrypted?
I guess it is; but even if it wasn't, covering the frequencies still makes good sense.

[Amateur]

there is a very nice pic of a Greek F16 intercepting a Turkish F4 published by the newspaper VIMA back in 1996(?) I can't find it in my archives, anybody?

You mean the HUD view taken from the THK F-4's 6 o'clock low? I remember such a photo, but I don't have it.

Are you talking about this one? But that's not from the HUD and I don't think it's from an interception.
(from http://tovima.dolnet.gr/print_article.php?e=B&f=13511&m=A24&aa=1)

http://tovima.dolnet.gr/data/D2002/D0310/1dpa24a.jpg

Or perhaps those? (from http://tovima.dolnet.gr/print_article.php?e=B&f=12451&m=A22&aa=1)
I think the turkish aircraft here is not a Phantom, looks like an F-16

http://tovima.dolnet.gr/data/D1997/D1019/1poa22b.gif (http://tovima.dolnet.gr/data/D1997/D1019/1poa22b.gif)
http://tovima.dolnet.gr/data/D1997/D1019/1poa22c.jpg (http://tovima.dolnet.gr/data/D1997/D1019/1poa22c.jpg)

[GREEK71AIRBORNE]

Nice photos @Amateur. Didn't see them before
Thanks

[GreekAmerican]

Are you talking about this one? But that's not from the HUD and I don't think it's from an interception.
(from http://tovima.dolnet.gr/print_article.php?e=B&f=13511&m=A24&aa=1)

http://tovima.dolnet.gr/data/D2002/D0310/1dpa24a.jpg

Or perhaps those? (from http://tovima.dolnet.gr/print_article.php?e=B&f=12451&m=A22&aa=1)
I think the turkish aircraft here is not a Phantom, looks like an F-16

http://tovima.dolnet.gr/data/D1997/D1019/1poa22b.gif (http://tovima.dolnet.gr/data/D1997/D1019/1poa22b.gif)
http://tovima.dolnet.gr/data/D1997/D1019/1poa22c.jpg (http://tovima.dolnet.gr/data/D1997/D1019/1poa22c.jpg)


no it was a very good quality color one. I will try to find it

[GreekAmerican]

it was in the 7 July 1996 paper of Vima but online papers are available from 14 July 1996.:cantbeli:

[GreekAmerican]

sorry double post

[Dark Avenger]

it was in the 7 July 1996 paper of Vima but online papers are available from 14 July 1996.:cantbeli:
I agree. I distinctly remember it as I was in Ioannina on vacation that day :D.

[flanker7]

I agree. I distinctly remember it as I was in Ioannina on vacation that day :D.


As far as I remember the HUD symbols were photoshoped over the photo of the F-4 which was propably taken through a hand held camera:)

[Oneto15]

Bloody Hell.... I've just watched the footage of the F4 Naval fly past. Jeez, Amateur, when the HAF say low level, they really mean LOW LEVEL!!. Respect to those guys, many thanks for posting.

[Amateur]

Bloody Hell.... I've just watched the footage of the F4 Naval fly past. Jeez, Amateur, when the HAF say low level, they really mean LOW LEVEL!!.
Yes, they do... p-) Have a look at this Phantom flying between the trees... No video here though :-( . Enjoy!
http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=15173&d=1160946419

[Amateur]

Bloody Hell.... I've just watched the footage of the F4 Naval fly past. Jeez, Amateur, when the HAF say low level, they really mean LOW LEVEL!!. Respect to those guys, many thanks for posting.
By the way, if you liked the low flying greek Phantom ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_PF8A11AWTY), you might want to check out this old thread http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/showthread.php?t=94294
that I started with it. No more greek airplanes, but just about every low flying video from youtube is in there! Amazing stuff, for instance those two videos http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h7DM_RXm6Z0&mode=related&search=
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bj4jMvcaRdg

[Dark Avenger]

Bloody Hell.... I've just watched the footage of the F4 Naval fly past. Jeez, Amateur, when the HAF say low level, they really mean LOW LEVEL!!. Respect to those guys, many thanks for posting.

That pilot did a fair approximation of a sea-skimming ASM woot

[GreekAmerican]

speaking of pilots skill do we have a link to the story when a Mirage 2000 pilot landed the malfuctioned Mirage on a railway? it was about 1992-3?

[Amateur]

speaking of pilots skill do we have a link to the story when a Mirage 2000 pilot landed the malfuctioned Mirage on a railway? it was about 1992-3?
It was in 1991, the pilot's name was Tzanavaras. A Lt. Col. at the time, he managed to air-glide his Mirage 2000 from Skyros, where his engine stopped, all the way to Tanagra airport, but didn't quite make it to the runway, so instead he chose the railway lines nearby and ejected at the last moment. I think he's a general now, in charge of Aviation Training. The only link I found is this, it doesn't say much though
http://www.ejection-history.org.uk/PROJECT/YEAR_Pages/1991.htm
A similar incident happened in 2005, when a young second lieutenant fresh from aviators School (name not disclosed) managed to air-glide and land his F-16 in Limnos, about 10 miles away from where his engine had failed
http://ta-nea.dolnet.gr/print_article.php?e=A&f=18237&m=N12&aa=2

[Amateur]

Here's another HUD video, this one from a greek Mirage 2000
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PpmwjdcGCG0&NR

[GreekAmerican]

It was in 1991, the pilot's name was Tzanavaras. A Lt. Col. at the time, he managed to air-glide his Mirage 2000 from Skyros, where his engine stopped, all the way to Tanagra airport, but didn't quite make it to the runway, so instead he chose the railway lines nearby and ejected at the last moment. I think he's a general now, in charge of Aviation Training. The only link I found is this, it doesn't say much though
http://www.ejection-history.org.uk/PROJECT/YEAR_Pages/1991.htm
A similar incident happened in 2005, when a young second lieutenant fresh from aviators School (name not disclosed) managed to air-glide and land his F-16 in Limnos, about 10 miles away from where his engine had failed
http://ta-nea.dolnet.gr/print_article.php?e=A&f=18237&m=N12&aa=2

tnx mate you're a moving archive:hug: