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Macs.

04-21-2004, 10:01 AM

GARDING, Germany (AFP) - Two German air force Tornado jets collided in mid-air above this northern town, killing two of the four people on board, police said.

The remaining two passengers were able to eject and parachute to safety. They suffered slight injuries and were receiving treatment.

It was not immediately clear what caused the crash, which occurred at about 0825 GMT, but a police spokesman said there had been "extreme weather conditions" at the time.

Rolling news channel NTV reported that wreckage fell on undeveloped land near the St. Peter-Ording beach resort on the North Sea. There were no reports of injuries on the ground.

Police cleared an eight-square-kilometer (three-square-mile) area surrounding the crash site to examine the wreckage. A defense ministry spokesman said the armed forces would run the investigation.

The two jets belonged to the 51 Immelmann reconnaissance squadron based in the northern town of Jagel, an air force spokesman said.

In January 1999, two German Tornado jets smashed together on an exercise over the North Sea, killing the two-man crew of one of the aircraft. The soldiers on the second plane used their ejector seats to escape the crash.
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GARDING, GERMANY: A German military police officer stands guard next to the wreckage of a German Air Force Tornado jet fighter after it collided with another Tornado over a field near Garding 21 April 2004. Two people, of the four onboard, were killed in the crash. AFP PHOTO DDP/MARCUS BRANDT GERMANY OUT (Photo credit should read MARCUS BRANDT/AFP/***** Images)

HELEX

04-21-2004, 10:02 AM

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shrek

04-21-2004, 10:09 AM

Looks like they both "flat-spinned in".

oldsoak

04-21-2004, 11:49 AM

:(
RIP

Midav

04-21-2004, 12:15 PM

RIP

mack pl

04-21-2004, 12:22 PM

RIP :(

SerbPVO

04-21-2004, 05:29 PM

Eh.

Probably war criminals that took part in the bombing of Serbia & Montenegro in 1999.

DLodge

04-21-2004, 05:35 PM

Eh.

Probably war criminals that took part in the bombing of Serbia & Montenegro in 1999.

Wow, you're not trolling at all...

American Patriot

04-21-2004, 05:36 PM

RIP to our German allies.

Visit to Germany = fun central.

BTW What do Germans think of Operation Iraqi Freedom?

TheJedi

04-21-2004, 05:39 PM

Eh.

Probably war criminals that took part in the bombing of Serbia & Montenegro in 1999.

The two jets belonged to the 51 Immelmann reconnaissance squadron based in the northern town of Jagel, an air force spokesman said.

Also, German Tornados only did Anti-AA/SAM sorties. No 'usual' ground attacks.

On the topic:

As I understood, the two aircraft where doing 'visual flight' training, e.g. flying without ground control. They were in close formation doing a turn when they collided in midair. There was an eye witness that saw both planes tumbling through the air.

I presume the bad weather influenced the flight path and the formation was to close to react in time. They were flying at about 15,000ft when the collision happend, they said.

aeternum

04-21-2004, 06:09 PM

BTW What do Germans think of Operation Iraqi Freedom?

The US hegemon is getting what they deserve .....

American Patriot

04-21-2004, 06:20 PM

BTW What do Germans think of Operation Iraqi Freedom?

The US hegemon is getting what they deserve .....

What does that mean?

I think you're a total douchebag. What are we getting that we deserve? A democratic Iraq?

aeternum

04-21-2004, 06:31 PM

BTW What do Germans think of Operation Iraqi Freedom?

The US hegemon is getting what they deserve .....

What does that mean?

You see it on CNN each day, just take a look.

American Patriot

04-21-2004, 06:33 PM

aeternum

04-21-2004, 06:41 PM

BTW What do Germans think of Operation Iraqi Freedom?

The US hegemon is getting what they deserve .....

What does that mean?

You see it on CNN each day, just take a look.

Are you the master of ambiguity? Can you be more specific?

As a smart american you should be able to figure it out by yourself... just follow the white rabbit....

Maine Finn

04-21-2004, 06:42 PM

BlackRain

04-21-2004, 06:44 PM

aeternum

04-21-2004, 06:45 PM

Are you the master of ambiguity? Can you be more specific?

Na, as a smart american you should be able to figure it out by yourself... just follow the white rabbit....

Now aren't we being condescending tonight!

Why that? Its actually not that difficult to interpret what i have written, especially my direct answer to the question.

Maine Finn

04-21-2004, 06:46 PM

Na, as a smart american you should be able to figure it out by yourself... just follow the white rabbit....

Now aren't we being condescending tonight!

Why that? Its actually not that difficult to interpret what i have written, especially my direct answer to the question.

I'm not even going to bother to argue with you. Anteeksi.

Kitsune

04-21-2004, 06:49 PM

Germans think of OIF pretty much the same as the other European countries population (the view among the European peoples is surprisingly homogenous, only the governents differed in their decision. Also those governments who supported OIF seem more and more to wish they hadn't...probably even the US govenrment may come to see it that way ;) ). OIF wasn't very popular in Germany at its beginning. Also everyone agrees that it is a good thing that Saddam is gone, the revelation that the WMD threat was just a pretext and the fact that many Iraqis seem to feel more and more opressed by the Americans rather than freed, makes it even more unpopular. All in all the Germans think it was pretty much ok not to take part in it.
Most agree, that Iraq must be helped, but since the Americans will decide things unitlaterally anyway, there is not much Germany can do, anyway.

hedgehog

04-21-2004, 06:50 PM

Grow up kids! The only people that keep puling this Nazi **** out of the closet is the British tabloids, and they only do it when there is a German ENgland soccer game. Iraqi freedom is a good idea, but what one sees on BBC and CNN is not exactly encouraging. Hope for the best with as few casualties as possible.

aeternum

04-21-2004, 06:54 PM

BTW What do Germans think of Operation Iraqi Freedom?

The US hegemon is getting what they deserve .....

Seriously, why do you hate the US?

Was you dad a Nazi in WWII and was killed/captured by Americans?

Why the animosity?

I dont hate the US, actually i have an aunt living in the US and i have spent a year during a student exchange at a US university....i just cant stand the US (foreign) politics concerning Europe, thats it. The US hegemony over Europe in defense and security matters that is.

And no my dad didnt fought in WWII, my granddad did. And no he wasnt killed and he wasnt captured by americans. He fought at the eastern front and survived...

ronin2172

04-21-2004, 07:27 PM

wasn't this thread about two tornadoes that crashed? y does everybody have to stick their respective political views in a thread not about politics?

the_spec

04-21-2004, 09:41 PM

Brings the count to 7 german tornados that have crashed in germany since 1988.
The guy responsible for the budget planning of the Luftwaffe won't be happy if they start doing that with Eurofighters.

RIP