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Roy Batty
01-19-2007, 09:21 AM
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More to come shortly.

Roy Batty
01-19-2007, 09:25 AM
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Roy Batty
01-19-2007, 09:30 AM
The pool
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Roy Batty
01-19-2007, 09:34 AM
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US SF attached to Canadian Airborne Regiment
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If anyone runs across any more please post them up.

Irish
01-19-2007, 09:34 AM
Great Pics Sig..Keep em Coming..

Primus Severus Aemilianus
01-19-2007, 09:41 AM
http://bunker.altervista.org/belet.html

Whitcomb
01-19-2007, 10:13 AM
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Any info on this?

[srod]`
01-19-2007, 10:13 AM
Nice pics man,thanks for posting them

Alpha Leader
01-19-2007, 10:16 AM
Nice pics, keep`em coming.
Good job.

Whitcomb
01-19-2007, 10:16 AM
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Any info on this?

Roy Batty
01-19-2007, 10:17 AM
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Any info on this?

Far as I know ( before my time in the service ) it's just a tank graveyard. They have them anywhere there has been major conflict. There is a huge one in Kabul that I got to explore (got some pics of it around somewhere).

Roy Batty
01-19-2007, 10:44 AM
Great pics Primus. Thanks for posting them.

Kingswat
01-19-2007, 11:07 AM
nice pics guys.

Vince S
01-19-2007, 11:15 AM
Too bad the regiment has been dismantled for two stupids jerks...

Roy Batty
01-19-2007, 11:22 AM
Too bad the regiment has been dismantled for two stupids jerks...

It was more than 2........
Charges subsequently laid against members of the Canadian Airborne Regiment suggested that sixteen people had passed through the area where Arone was tortured and that, during the night, his screams could be heard throughout the surrounding area. The commander of 2 Commando and a number of his subordinate supervisors were court-martialed and found guilty under article 124 of the National Defence Act (Negligent Performance of Duties).

Soon after the death of Shidane Arone came to public attention, other actions by the Airborne also began to be scrutinized. Days earlier, a patrol from the Reconnaissance Platoon had shot and killed a young Somali night-time infiltrator and seriously injured another. A temporarily attached Air Force flight surgeon, Major Barry Armstrong, stated in letters home which he subsequently leaked to the press, that he judged, after seeing the body, that the death of one of the Somalis was an "execution". He subsequently accused the Reconnaissance Platoon commander, Captain Michel Rainville, of destroying his photographic evidence, but these accusations were never proved and the officer was tried and acquitted. Captain Rainville would later be charged with torturing one of his own soldiers in a mock-exercise, that included ****-rape and psychological torture.

Home-video footage of another trooper, Cpl Matt McKay, was found, in which he stated that "we ain't killed enough ******s yet." Predeployment photographs of McKay performing a Nazi salute in front of a Swastika were also published. Video of brutal hazing rituals also came to light.



The later released "hazing" video also took a heavy part in the disbandment of the regiment.

Vince S
01-19-2007, 11:25 AM
Yeah but did the Americans dismantled the MP brigade because of what many did in Abu Grhaib (spelling?)? We're too damn "politically" correct sometimes (in my opinion)

And you seem to know the Airborne regiment better than I, so why aren't they wearing the DPM smock? Too heavy for desert climate?

Ruledbyjames
01-19-2007, 11:27 AM
Excellent pics! Could anyone tell me about the war torn Marine compund please? How did it get that way?

Hutz
01-19-2007, 11:27 AM
Those look familiar, did you get them from commando.org? Either way, they are great. Like it's been said, damn shame they got disbanded.

Roy Batty
01-19-2007, 11:32 AM
I agree. The problem started with the decision to send the CAR on this type of mission in the first place. Their own commander said that they were "unfit for service abroad". There were lots ( the majority ) of great troops in that unit but unfortunatly there were also more than a few troops who should'nt have been allowed to stay in the forces in the first place. Alot of those guys had been sent to the CAR from their parent regiments as a way to get rid of them.

In the end, the guys went back to their respective regiments and formed jump companies and now alot of them are filling positions with CSOR. It was a shame ( and a knee-jerk reaction ) to disband such a proud regiment but keep in mind that the actions of some in that regiment stained the reputation of every soldier in the Canadian Forces and it has taken until Afghanistan to clean that stain off.

Some good reading here www.commando.org ( give Desk Pilot a cigar :D )

also the Wiki article is fairly accurate for once p-) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Somalia_Affair

Hutz
01-19-2007, 11:35 AM
keep in mind that the actions of some in that regiment stained the reputation of every soldier in the Canadian Forces and it has taken until Afghanistan to clean that stain off.

I'm not convinced of that. When I mentioned Somalia and CAR, none of my civ friends new what the hell I was talking about. IMO, the shame was more internally felt than anything.

Roy Batty
01-19-2007, 11:36 AM
Forgive me for sounding like the devil's advocate. I would love to see the CAR rise again. Unfortunatly I don't think the public in this country are ready to forgive or forget quite yet.

Hutz
01-19-2007, 11:37 AM
Forgive me for sounding like the devil's advocate. I would love to see the CAR rise again. Unfortunatly I don't think the public in this country are ready to forgive or forget quite yet.

I think starting the CSOR relieved the government from having to make that decision anytime soon.

Roy Batty
01-19-2007, 11:37 AM
I'm not convinced of that. When I mentioned Somalia and CAR, none of my civ friends new what the hell I was talking about. IMO, the shame was more internally felt than anything.

That's possible. I grew up in BC where every thing we do ( the military ) is scrutinized heavily and looked down upon from a high NDP horse. Probably skews my perceptions a bit p-)

Hutz
01-19-2007, 11:38 AM
That's possible. I grew up in BC where every thing we do ( the military ) is scrutinized heavily and looked down upon from a high NDP horse. Probably skews my perceptions a bit p-)

BC? Well that explains it. I'm sure some called you a baby killer there. Damn sandal wearing, granola eating, three hugging hippies :-). The one good thing about Ontario is that they except you a bit more.

bigjeff
01-19-2007, 11:38 AM
Nice to see old school pics.

Vince S
01-19-2007, 11:42 AM
BC? Well that explains it. I'm sure some called you a baby killer there. The one good thing about Ontario is that they except you a bit more.

It's quite like that in Quebec too... too much anti-army separatist, argh I hate them

Hutz
01-19-2007, 11:43 AM
It's quite like that in Quebec too... too much anti-army separatist, argh I hate them

That's funny considering the amount of Quebecois in the CF.

Vince S
01-19-2007, 11:53 AM
I know it's kinda contradictory, but what's even more contradictory is that I know ALOT of separatist in the CF...

heavy lift
01-19-2007, 12:11 PM
Too bad the regiment has been dismantled for two stupids jerks...
There was talk of re instating the Airborn after Harper became PM, any one heard anything more about this??

Fade
01-19-2007, 12:18 PM
These pics are pretty damn cool, never seen them before - thanks Canadian Sig and Primus!

You guys are all talkin like you escaped BC or something, lol. I'm still here and the NDP is but a former shadow of itself, really...years of scandals caught up to them. Noone has forgotten how they made this province a have-not province for over a decade.

I certainly haven't.

Roy Batty
01-19-2007, 12:49 PM
There was talk of re instating the Airborn after Harper became PM, any one heard anything more about this??

Won't happen. CSOR fills the gap now.

Vince S
01-19-2007, 12:51 PM
Just for my personnal knowledge is:

Is Csor to Rangers what JTF2 is to Delta?

boone
01-19-2007, 12:53 PM
I'm in BC too. Much better now. Hippie-beatings are encouraged ;)

Hutz
01-19-2007, 01:05 PM
Just for my personnal knowledge is:

Is Csor to Rangers what JTF2 is to Delta?

Supposed to be.

Fade
01-19-2007, 01:12 PM
I'm in BC too. Much better now. Hippie-beatings are encouraged ;)

Way ahead of ya - I smoked Mike Harcourt with a Navel orange when he came to our school. Not that big a deal though, considering it was the block before lunch so everyone had their lunches for ammunition...and anything went.

Fruit, sandwiches, juice boxes...that man got pelted so badly he had to leave the gymnasium.

DE_Six
01-19-2007, 01:31 PM
Nice pics, Sig!

Anyone interested in the Somalia incident, the disbandment of the CAR and the overall decline of the CF under the Liberals after the end of the Cold War should read David Bercuson's Significant Incident. It's a well-written, thoroughly researched piece of work.

The disbandment of the CAR isn'y only the result of Somalia and hazings. In Bastard Sons, Bernd Horn, one of Canada's most respected military expert, himself a colonel, explains very well how the regiment had become a trouble nest the infantry regiments had started using as a dump for their own troublemakers. Petty politics, like the tradition to rotate command between officers from the three reg. force infantry regiments, sometimes kept good people from effectively taking matters in thier own hands and cleaning up the place.

The CAR was disbanded because it had come to embody the problems the CF were going through at the time and had become too politically sensitive to handle. But to prevent this would have required to face the problem years before. The US military went through a similar crisis after Vietnam, with discipline problems and drug use, notably on its European bases. A good example of what should have been done is the reforms that took place in the USMC under SecNavy Webb and USMC Commandant Al Gray. The problem is, at the time, the Liberals were more interested in sweeping the whole thing under the rug than actually improving things.

DevilDogHopeful
01-19-2007, 01:40 PM
How long have you guys been using the C6? And by "you guys" I mean the Canadian Forces.

Roy Batty
01-19-2007, 01:58 PM
How long have you guys been using the C6? And by "you guys" I mean the Canadian Forces.

Since 1978.

Yeoman
01-19-2007, 05:00 PM
[QUOTE=Canadian Sig;2245761]Forgive me for sounding like the devil's advocate. I would love to see the CAR rise again. [QUOTE]

trust me, they're trying siggy.
there's alot of talk going round the last year about bringing it back. and it wasn't talks about csor, but a para battalion. but no one can give a straight answer on it just yet though. I don't personally see it happening.
lot of faces in those pics, I just happen to work with. lets just say they're all bitter about what happend out there (and not just the killing of the teenager)
Greg

jetsetter
01-19-2007, 05:03 PM
What is the stiry behind this:

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Yeoman
01-19-2007, 05:16 PM
I belive that's what they called 'the white house' or something along the lines of that.
it was this buidling that the inside was nothing but sandbagged all to hell.
but I ain't too too sure if that's the one.
Greg

Pete031
01-19-2007, 06:49 PM
Just for my personnal knowledge is:

Is Csor to Rangers what JTF2 is to Delta?

No... The CSOR is a Tier 2 unit, like the USSF, like the ODA's. The Rangers would be considered Teir 3.

To bad the Airborne is gone. Wrecked morale for a lot of people in the CF when it happened.

Fliptape
01-19-2007, 07:45 PM
forgot this one to

Mod edit

goat89
01-19-2007, 07:52 PM
Dont mean to purposely flame you, but can you take away that pic. The past is past.

frankie
01-19-2007, 08:30 PM
Since 1978.

Check that date.
I went through Wainwright in 1987 using C1, C2, and the C5. First thing when we got to battalion, weapons conversion to the C7, C9, and C6.

jcareaga
01-19-2007, 08:35 PM
that last pic made me jump,....yea you might wanna take that one out

Roy Batty
01-19-2007, 08:37 PM
forgot this one to


Your an Assclown and you can consider yourself reported bozzo.

Try flasshing that to a member of the regiment and see where it gets you.

Roy Batty
01-19-2007, 08:38 PM
Check that date.
I went through Wainwright in 1987 using C1, C2, and the C5. First thing when we got to battalion, weapons conversion to the C7, C9, and C6.


































Back Photos Virtual Tour (2 min download @ 56K) All Equipment
This piece of equipment falls under the Category Weapons.
This Equipment is used by the following trades: Machine Guns.

C6 GENERAL PURPOSE MACHINE-GUN

The C6 is a general purpose machine gun (GPMG) and is issued in substantial numbers to combat arms units. The C6 is a fully automatic, air cooled, belt fed gas operated weapon that can be adjusted to fire between 650 and 1000 rounds per minute.

The army uses this weapon in a number of roles. In the infantry, the C6 GPMG can be carried by dismounted soldiers and is used to provide either fire support or sustained fire. The C6 GPMG is mounted in a variety of vehicles, including the LAV III, the Coyote, and the Leopard C2. In these vehicles the C6 GPMGs are mounted co-axial to the main armament and used to provide fire support to the infantry or for local defence of the vehicle itself.

In the sustained fire role, the C6 GPMG is mounted on a tripod. The C2 sight is used in conjunction with an aiming post to allow the crew to engage targets that they cannot see, due to fog, smoke or darkness.

The C6 GPMG is light enough to be carried and used by soldiers on a variety of operations including patrolling, the advance, hasty defence, and delay and withdrawal operations. The C6 GPMG is normally carried by its sling, which can be looped over either shoulder, and fired from its bipod. In this manner it can be brought into action quickly and effectively.

Armament:
Ammunition: 7.62 x 51mm NATO
Rate of fire: 650 to 1000 rounds per minute (adjustable)

Specifications:
Weight: 11kg
Length: 1255mm
Operation: gas operated, air cooled, belt fed
Range: Bipod 800 m
Tripod 1800m
Crew: 2 (gunner and loader)
Entered Service: 1978




Just quoting what the bosses said. :D

jcareaga
01-19-2007, 08:43 PM
sometimes the mod's amaze me....rofl they brought the hurt to him!:bash: :backhand:

memphiz
01-19-2007, 08:55 PM
good stuff Canadian SIG , thanks for posting

Caper
01-19-2007, 09:22 PM
Thanks Sig. Good to see the lads having fun.

frankie
01-19-2007, 09:45 PM
Just quoting what the bosses said. :D

Concerned about the bosses figures here. If we had it back then, I'd love to know where they were hiding it. Went to Norway with 2RCR in 1985 or 86 and there was no sign of them there. As stated earlier, went through PPCLI battle school in 87, trained witht the old stuff.

I think they had a bout of dislexia.....78...87

Maybe they were in competition at that time to replace the C-5, or hiding in a tank somewhere. Not with the infantry.
Any other old timers around?

Could I be wrong....yes...
Am I wrong, 99.9 % sure I'm not. That 1987 date could be backed up a couple years for trials, but not 9 years.

Well back against the wall awaiting back up.

ex Strathcona
01-19-2007, 10:04 PM
it was mid 90's before we got rid of the C-5 GPMG, C-6 was a rare sight before that unless you were in Germany on the Leopards.
you know what i miss thought, the Sterling SMG!
and @ Fliptape
your country is guilty of much worse, Zahra Kazemi's rape, torture and murder at the hands of your countries police was about as brutal as it gets so shut your **** washer.

Caper
01-19-2007, 10:08 PM
shut your **** washer.

That is gold.

frankie
01-19-2007, 10:10 PM
Ex-strat, flip's gone for a couple weeks, glad you missed the pic he posted.
Buy 1994 when I got out, the C-6 was still not mounted in the Grizzly. We were using it in the platoons as of '87.

ex Strathcona
01-19-2007, 10:17 PM
Ex-strat, flip's gone for a couple weeks, glad you missed the pic he posted.
Buy 1994 when I got out, the C-6 was still not mounted in the Grizzly. We were using it in the platoons as of '87.

i remember the Grizzly got a turret upgrade at some point later in the 90's, some of our guys went on the conversion course. it "probably" got the C-6 at that point but to be honest i am making a guess. the cougars got a C-6 Co-ax conversion after i got out in 97. they were still sweating it out with the C-5 till then.
what a weapon, my ex wife was not nearly so temperamental. I got the art of bending the trigger bar just right, down to a science though.

frankie
01-19-2007, 10:24 PM
Yep, tweaking that and fighting with the T&E, got to love it.

Caper
01-19-2007, 10:27 PM
What are some of the ex-CAR guys saying about CSOAR. I was talking to a guy the other day who had the Airborne tattoo and he said he is pumped and cant wait for selection.

Boxer
01-19-2007, 10:45 PM
Frankies right I went thru battle school in 89 and had the C7 then, But we also played with the FNs too. Never got a chance to even see a Sterling, What were they like.


S!
Boxer.

Vince S
01-19-2007, 10:47 PM
I'll check for a picture, but from what I understood from EX CF members, they were higher quality Sten

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d157/pvtvince/sterling.jpg

frankie
01-19-2007, 11:05 PM
Never got a chance to even see a Sterling, What were they like.

Great fun on the range, easy to carry, would not want to rely on it unless in an urban enviroment.

Vince S
01-19-2007, 11:12 PM
Isn't it with a Sterling that Cpl Lortie went at Quebec Parliament and start shooting people?

ex Strathcona
01-19-2007, 11:17 PM
they were great fun on the range, not a lot of fire power, it was a 9mm sub machine gun not a battle rifle like an FN. but for doing Recce foot patrols you wanted small and light anyway since getting into a firefight was counter productive to your task.

ex Strathcona
01-19-2007, 11:18 PM
Isn't it with a Sterling that Cpl Lortie went at Quebec Parliament and start shooting people?
yes it was, and fortunately he was not knowledgeable in his I.As and stoppages drills or he would have killed many more people.

Vince S
01-19-2007, 11:29 PM
Also lucky that the time of the PQ meeting changed... If that Blue Room would have full of deputy...

Ripcord
01-20-2007, 05:10 AM
What are some of the ex-CAR guys saying about CSOAR. I was talking to a guy the other day who had the Airborne tattoo and he said he is pumped and cant wait for selection.


The Regiment most likely will never come back, CSOR is What CAR was, or would have evolved into.
IMHO


That being said CSOR is a much needed morale booster to the military and almost everyone I know is either in CSOR or still trying to get in.

hammerlock
01-20-2007, 11:43 AM
Forgive me for sounding like the devil's advocate. I would love to see the CAR rise again. Unfortunatly I don't think the public in this country are ready to forgive or forget quite yet.

You need to be more clear, you mean the Liberal party and public that vote for and buy their anti military ideas. It was dibanded because the Liberal party have very little respect for anything military and usefulness was over.

Yeoman
01-20-2007, 02:46 PM
I know a few commando boys in csor, they don't mind it. not the same as wearin maroon, but just as cool, if not a little better.
Greg

Otsoa
01-21-2007, 04:41 AM
BC? Well that explains it. I'm sure some called you a baby killer there. Damn sandal wearing, granola eating, three hugging hippies :-). The one good thing about Ontario is that they except you a bit more.

As been addressed before, not all of us B.C. boys share the same viewpoint as all those ndp lovers in Vancouver and Victoria. We in the interior of the province are a little more level headed. That and we mostly don't believe in hugging trees...we believe in cutting them down with extreme prejudice ;)

boone
01-21-2007, 04:59 AM
I , for one, have never hugged a tree. I have, however pull-started a Stihl
and gently laid one over.

boone
01-21-2007, 05:01 AM
And up the CSOR!

Canuck Farrier
01-21-2007, 01:07 PM
Nice photos fellas,Airborne Regiment was hardcore.

Vince S
01-21-2007, 01:08 PM
And the DPM smock, was it only used for jumps or in combat situations too?

Pete031
01-21-2007, 06:15 PM
And the DPM smock, was it only used for jumps or in combat situations too?

Was part of the paratrooper dress. They wore it when it got a little cold. And whenever they had to be in full dress ie: Parades.

Ericsson
01-26-2007, 08:07 PM
great stuff..
does where the days
now you got FAT girls and chubby morons everywhere in the C.F
the basic traing is a Joke and so on ........

Hutz
01-26-2007, 08:10 PM
Was part of the paratrooper dress. They wore it when it got a little cold. And whenever they had to be in full dress ie: Parades.

Don't forget the rip off jump smock that the whole army used for garrison dress.

Pete031
01-26-2007, 09:24 PM
great stuff..
does where the days
now you got FAT girls and chubby morons everywhere in the C.F
the basic traing is a Joke and so on ........

And you have how much experience?

Yeah, the Garrison dress was the ****s

guest
01-27-2007, 02:11 AM
And you have how much experience?

Yeah, the Garrison dress was the ****s

No, he has no experience..at anything worthwhile.

He's just being his usual Troll-baiting self.

ex Strathcona
01-27-2007, 02:23 AM
great stuff..
does where the days
now you got FAT girls and chubby morons everywhere in the C.F
the basic traing is a Joke and so on ........

ladies and gentlemen...we have a wiener!

not only a troll but a semi literate one at that!

i am guessing he was not accepted for military service at some point and holds a grudge?

Roy Batty
01-27-2007, 08:03 AM
ladies and gentlemen...we have a wiener!

not only a troll but a semi literate one at that!

i am guessing he was not accepted for military service at some point and holds a grudge?

Can't pass the CFAT if you can't even write your own name :D

Hutz
01-27-2007, 12:40 PM
Can't pass the CFAT if you can't even write your own name :D

Poor fellow probably tried to sign his name by making his mark. Can't even get into the infantry with that :-).

Pete031
01-27-2007, 12:52 PM
I would love to see this cheese **** show up at the Battleschool.

Roy Batty
01-27-2007, 01:42 PM
I would love to see this cheese **** show up at the Battleschool.

I could be there before too long...considering a remuster :D

Pete031
01-27-2007, 01:45 PM
ha... and lose that spec pay????

Roy Batty
01-27-2007, 01:48 PM
ha... and lose that spec pay????

No spec pay for operators.....just for the techs (despite the fact that I do more repair work than they do anyway!) so it's no real loss for me. Just waiting till I'm done PLQ in March to make a decision.

Yeoman
01-27-2007, 01:51 PM
great stuff..
does where the days
now you got FAT girls and chubby morons everywhere in the C.F
the basic traing is a Joke and so on ........


but that's what keeps me going everyday though!
fat chicks are what I do best.
and chubby morons? they make me smile.
Greg

Pete031
01-27-2007, 01:55 PM
No spec pay for operators.....just for the techs (despite the fact that I do more repair work than they do anyway!) so it's no real loss for me. Just waiting till I'm done PLQ in March to make a decision.

Ahhhh and operator eh? You guys are a dieing breed. Which Battalion do you want to go to? Or are you thinking CANSOF?

Roy Batty
01-27-2007, 02:01 PM
Ahhhh and operator eh? You guys are a dieing breed. Which Battalion do you want to go to? Or are you thinking CANSOF?

1st would probably be my preferance. I work with some of those guys already so I know some folks there.

Pete031
01-27-2007, 02:10 PM
1st would probably be my preferance. I work with some of those guys already so I know some folks there.

Well. I presume that you want to remuster to Infantry because you want some trigger time right? Well the 1st is coming back as you know so you would probably want to go with another unit. Of course they will be the first ones back in the rotation in about 3 years. The 3rd is going in 08, why not get attached to them as a SigOp?

Critter
01-27-2007, 02:24 PM
Was part of the paratrooper dress. They wore it when it got a little cold. And whenever they had to be in full dress ie: Parades.
The "Jump Smock" was worn by all pers who held Jump Positions in the respective units, including the AB Reg't, The guns had their troop, the Armoured Recce had theirs, and the Engineers as well....
It was worn as normal "work Dress" and for parades...
all part of the SSF...

Pete031
01-27-2007, 02:36 PM
The "Jump Smock" was worn by all pers who held Jump Positions in the respective units, including the AB Reg't, The guns had their troop, the Armoured Recce had theirs, and the Engineers as well....
It was worn as normal "work Dress" and for parades...
all part of the SSF...

It was worn by both the Airborne regiment and then 1RCR as the SSF. Which included of course all the supporting units within the Battle Group.
The smock itself was at least in the Airborne worn more by the Non Infantry types. It was kind of a novelty, which is always exploited more by those who think they have something to prove. THe only other place you could find it, post SSF was at the CPC of course that ended too with the introduction of CADPAT.

Yeoman
01-27-2007, 03:38 PM
Well. I presume that you want to remuster to Infantry because you want some trigger time right? Well the 1st is coming back as you know so you would probably want to go with another unit. Of course they will be the first ones back in the rotation in about 3 years. The 3rd is going in 08, why not get attached to them as a SigOp?


because I would ridicule him and throw anything that I can get my hands on across the hall anytime I see him walk out of sigs platoon.
I think that's a straight laced answer of why he wouldn't dare do such a thing :P
Greg

DANJANOU
04-02-2007, 12:25 PM
Poor fellow probably tried to sign his name by making his mark. Can't even get into the infantry with that :-).

Well you could back in the old days when dinosaurs like me were humping SMGs C1s, C2s, and C5 GPMGs :)

OttawaLoneWolf
04-03-2007, 01:12 AM
As been addressed before, not all of us B.C. boys share the same viewpoint as all those ndp lovers in Vancouver and Victoria. We in the interior of the province are a little more level headed. That and we mostly don't believe in hugging trees...we believe in cutting them down with extreme prejudice ;)

u forgot to add and then making lots money

OttawaLoneWolf
04-03-2007, 01:15 AM
Well you could back in the old days when dinosaurs like me were humping SMGs C1s, C2s, and C5 GPMGs :)



wooo ! u are old

DANJANOU
04-05-2007, 11:31 PM
wooo ! u are old

Yup the number 2 and 3 on the G-Pig with me were two guys named Moses and Noah. :)

OttawaLoneWolf
04-06-2007, 03:23 AM
Yup the number 2 and 3 on the G-Pig with me were two guys named Moses and Noah. :)



so were u in Gun and Moses ? : )

torche031
03-18-2008, 03:29 AM
THought i'd contribute a few pics to the thread, many were lost over time, but still have a few from my days in Mogadishu when our section had been attached to the EOD element of the 10th Mountain Division. We were attached to the battle group from 1RCR as a mortar platoon, but no sooner did we land that our mortars were packed away and our platoon dispersed to 2 corners of the country, maintaining a role of mechanized QRF. The Mogadishu portion had a section maintaining embassy security, while ours maintained inner city convoy security and US assistance.

torche031
03-18-2008, 03:39 AM
Also added 2 pics of my modern vocation as an Ironworker, not quite in the military theme, but it stresses that some of us really only find peace while standing on a 6" beam a few hundred feet up in the air after multiple tours hehe.

torche031
03-18-2008, 03:57 AM
It pains me to ask brothers, but my recollection is hazy and I had not yet arrived to Bellet-uen from the city when it occured... But is the destroyed hummer and the one shown below from the SF team the one and the same? It pained me to have heard about the landmine, many of the lads in the platoon had gotten to know them well before it happened. -Cheers

Recce 1
03-18-2008, 10:37 AM
The pool
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Very beautiful and interesting thread.
Thank you.

To return on this very interesting picture.
With the foreground, like at the bottom in the center, one sees destroyed FV4017 CENTURION.

For the others, the picture is too small.
I do not see what it is.

YANKEEBOBB
02-20-2009, 01:31 PM
Hey guys. Got a question...

I understand the Candadian Airborne is no more. Disbanded in 1995 I believe. While searching around I found a few recently taken pics of Canadian paras such as the one below. dated 2007. Can anyone clear this up for me? Thanks in advance.

http://img3.imageshack.us/img3/3884/20jun2007of9dotjpg
Shot at 2009-02-20

Pete031
02-20-2009, 01:34 PM
Hey guys. Got a question...

I understand the Candadian Airborne is no more. Disbanded in 1995 I believe. While searching around I found a few recently taken pics of Canadian paras such as the one below. dated 2007. Can anyone clear this up for me? Thanks in advance.

http://img3.imageshack.us/img3/3884/20jun2007of9dotjpg
Shot at 2009-02-20

Yup,

The CF has 3 Conventional Infantry Regiments now.
Each Regiment had/has a Light Battlaion within those Regiments.
Each light Battalion has a "Jump Company" within the Battalions
Those soldiers are entitled to wear the Maroon Beret, but wear the Cap Badge of their Regiment.

Also Soldiers serving at the Canadian Parachute Center, which is now the land advanced warfare center or something like that are allowed to wear it.

YANKEEBOBB
02-20-2009, 02:10 PM
Thank for the info bro! So their still is Airborne but not officially... :roll: just hidden amogst the troops. Damn political nonsense!

Canadians have a great military force from what I've seen. I hate all this for you guys. I'm not condoning what happend but that was a bit too much - doing away w/your airborne as stated before in this thread.

Pete031
02-20-2009, 02:15 PM
Thank for the info bro! So their still is Airborne but not officially... :roll: just hidden amogst the troops. Damn political nonsense!

Canadians have a great military force from what I've seen. I hate all this for you guys. I'm not condoning what happend but that was a bit too much - doing away w/your airborne as stated before in this thread.

No, it's not hidden, the Jump Companies are still designated units within the battalions, it's just that each regiment has it's own, instead of them all being together.

YANKEEBOBB
02-20-2009, 02:22 PM
No, it's not hidden, the Jump Companies are still designated units within the battalions, it's just that each regiment has it's own, instead of them all being together.

Right, gotcha, I didn't mean that literraly, it's just that type of mentality taht the politicians seem to have.

Pete031
02-20-2009, 02:42 PM
Yeah man, you got it. OUt of sight, out of mind.

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