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Klatuu
01-19-2007, 01:26 PM
By Mark Daily

Sunday, October 29, 2006

WHY I JOINED
Current mood: optimistic

Why I Joined:

This question has been asked of me so many times in so many different
contexts that I thought it would be best if I wrote my reasons for joining
the Army on my page for all to see. First, the more accurate question is why
I volunteered to go to Iraq. After all, I joined the Army a week after we
declared war on Saddam's government with the intention of going to Iraq.
Now, after years of training and preparation, I am finally here.

Much has changed in the last three years. The criminal Ba'ath regime has
been replaced by an insurgency fueled by Iraq's neighbors who hope to
partition Iraq for their own ends. This is coupled with the ever present
transnational militant Islamist movement which has seized upon Iraq as the
greatest way to kill Americans, along with anyone else they happen to be
standing near. What was once a paralyzed state of fear is now the staging
ground for one of the largest transformations of power and ideology the
Middle East has experienced since the collapse of the Ottoman Empire. Thanks
to Iran, Syria, and other enlightened local actors, this transformation will
be plagued by interregional hatred and genocide. And I am now in the center
of this.

Is this why I joined?

Yes. Much has been said about America's intentions in overthrowing Saddam
Hussein and seeking to establish a new state based upon political
representation and individual rights. Many have framed the paradigm through
which they view the conflict around one-word explanations such as "oil" or
"terrorism," favoring the one which best serves their political persuasion.
I did the same thing, and anyone who knew me before I joined knows that I am
quite aware and at times sympathetic to the arguments against the war in
Iraq. If you think the only way a person could bring themselves to volunteer
for this war is through sheer desperation or blind obedience then consider
me the exception (though there are countless like me).

I joined the fight because it occurred to me that many modern day
"humanists" who claim to possess a genuine concern for human beings
throughout the world are in fact quite content to allow their fellow "global
citizens" to suffer under the most hideous state apparatuses and conditions.
Their excuses used to be my excuses. When asked why we shouldn't confront
the Ba'ath party, the Taliban or the various other tyrannies throughout this
world, my answers would allude to vague notions of cultural tolerance
(forcing women to wear a veil and stay indoors is such a quaint cultural
tradition), the sanctity of national sovereignty (how eager we
internationalists are to throw up borders to defend dictatorships!) or even
a creeping suspicion of America's intentions. When all else failed, I would
retreat to my fragile moral ecosystem that years of living in peace and
liberty had provided me. I would write off war because civilian casualties
were guaranteed, or temporary alliances with illiberal forces would be made,
or tank fuel was toxic for the environment. My fellow "humanists" and I
would relish contently in our self righteous declaration of opposition
against all military campaigns against dictatorships, congratulating one
another for refusing to taint that aforementioned fragile moral ecosystem
that many still cradle with all the revolutionary tenacity of the members of
Rage Against the Machine and Greenday. Others would point to America's
historical support of Saddam Hussein, sighting it as hypocritical that we
would now vilify him as a thug and a tyrant. Upon explaining that we did so
to ward off the fiercely Islamist Iran, which was correctly identified as
the greater threat at the time, eyes are rolled and hypocrisy is declared.
Forgetting that America sided with Stalin to defeat Hitler, who was promptly
confronted once the Nazis were destroyed, America's initial engagement with
Saddam and other regional actors is identified as the ultimate argument
against America's moral crusade.

And maybe it is. Maybe the reality of politics makes all political action
inherently crude and immoral. Or maybe it is these adventures in
philosophical masturbation that prevent people from ever taking any kind of
effective action against men like Saddam Hussein. One thing is for certain,
as disagreeable or as confusing as my decision to enter the fray may be,
consider what peace vigils against genocide have accomplished lately.
Consider that there are 19 year old soldiers from the Midwest who have never
touched a college campus or a protest who have done more to uphold the
universal legitimacy of representative government and individual rights by
placing themselves between Iraqi voting lines and homicidal religious
fanatics. Often times it is less about how clean your actions are and more
about how pure your intentions are.

So that is why I joined. In the time it took for you to read this
explanation, innocent people your age have suffered under the crushing
misery of tyranny. Every tool of philosophical advancement and communication
that we use to develop our opinions about this war are denied to countless
human beings on this planet, many of whom live under the regimes that have,
in my opinion, been legitimately targeted for destruction. Some have allowed
their resentment of the President to stir silent applause for setbacks in
Iraq. Others have ironically decried the war because it has tied up our
forces and prevented them from confronting criminal regimes in Sudan,
Uganda, and elsewhere.

I simply decided that the time for candid discussions of the oppressed was
over, and I joined.

In digesting this posting, please remember that America's commitment to
overthrow Saddam Hussein and his sons existed before the current
administration and would exist into our future children's lives had we not
acted. Please remember that the problems that plague Iraq today were set in
motion centuries ago and were up until now held back by the most cruel of
cages. Don't forget that human beings have a responsibility to one another
and that Americans will always have a responsibility to the oppressed. Don't
overlook the obvious reasons to disagree with the war but don't cheapen the
moral aspects either. Assisting a formerly oppressed population in
converting their torn society into a plural, democratic one is dangerous and
difficult business, especially when being attacked and sabotaged from
literally every direction. So if you have anything to say to me at the end
of this reading, let it at least include "Good Luck"

Mark Daily

2nd Lt Mark Daily was killed Monday, January 15th, 2007 by an IED in Mosul.


http://michellemalkin.com/archives/006723.htm
http://www.ocregister.com/ocregister/news/homepage/article_1547859.php

vinny_121_ND
01-19-2007, 01:51 PM
I thank Mark Daily for his sincere and honest decision to sign up. Everybody who signs up knows the risks involved. RIP


Edit: deletion of link between iraqis and taliban style or rule.

Klatuu
01-19-2007, 02:12 PM
I thank Mark Daily for his sincere and honest decision to sign up. Everybody who signs up knows the risks involved. RIP

Note: Iraqis did not force women to stay inside and be housewives and wear the veil. I think that was propangada though.

That comment is about the Taliban in Afghanistan, not Iraq.

INAT
01-19-2007, 02:16 PM
It is unfortunate that Mr. Daily lost his life but as for the article.-Self rightious bs to me.

Mastermind
01-19-2007, 05:45 PM
God bless him. Yeah, there is no place in this world for a real man to stand up for his personal beliefs, huh INAT? MM

8thidpathfinderpower
01-19-2007, 07:39 PM
It is unfortunate that Mr. Daily lost his life but as for the article.-Self rightious bs to me.

Self rightous BS to you...would you please enlighten me as to when and where you served in the armed forces? I would likely guess right that you probably never have served your country, or thought about serving, or better yet, are probably one of these here wonderful antiwar people who troll this forum looking for trouble.

I think every thing you wrote up to the point where you mentioned condolances was wounderful...but everything after just blew the good stuff right out of the water. And, only suceeded in showing everyone just how stupid you really are.

I take offense at what you posted for several reasons....and one of them is the fact you have insulted my very own reasoning why I enlisted into the US armed forces over 26yrs ago.(I just did not write an essay about why I joined like the soldier above did). And although it was at a different time, and slightly different circumstances,(I exited active duty after desert shield/storm aka gulf war1 in 1992)and finished my remainder of my time in the active reserve as a member of the 328th combat support hospital at the 96thARCOM at Ft. Douglas, here in Salt Lake City, my reasoning always remained the same as to why I served through out my time in. And, there are thousands like me, who feel the samy way about our time in.

So, in closing, I would like to offer you some very solid advice...the next time you choose to post some stupid comment, just remember where you are at. Some of these people, are actually vetrans of military service, on active duty, and are fighting for the very reasoning why we are in Iraq now....and to post such an insulting comment not only does it insult the deeased, but it also insults those of us who served, and just might end up getting you PERMABANNED or, you just might know someone here, and they just might stomp you as needed.

8thidpathfinderpower
01-19-2007, 07:47 PM
RIP Lt., may your soul rest in peace, because you have passed away doing what others only dream about,knowing that you served was for a purpose, so others can be free.

INAT
01-19-2007, 08:05 PM
Self rightous BS to you...would you please enlighten me as to when and where you served in the armed forces? I would likely guess right that you probably never have served your country, or thought about serving, or better yet, are probably one of these here wonderful antiwar people who troll this forum looking for trouble.

I think every thing you wrote up to the point where you mentioned condolances was wounderful...but everything after just blew the good stuff right out of the water. And, only suceeded in showing everyone just how stupid you really are.

I take offense at what you posted for several reasons....and one of them is the fact you have insulted my very own reasoning why I enlisted into the US armed forces over 26yrs ago.(I just did not write an essay about why I joined like the soldier above did). And although it was at a different time, and slightly different circumstances,(I exited active duty after desert shield/storm aka gulf war1 in 1992)and finished my remainder of my time in the active reserve as a member of the 328th combat support hospital at the 96thARCOM at Ft. Douglas, here in Salt Lake City, my reasoning always remained the same as to why I served through out my time in. And, there are thousands like me, who feel the samy way about our time in.

So, in closing, I would like to offer you some very solid advice...the next time you choose to post some stupid comment, just remember where you are at. Some of these people, are actually vetrans of military service, on active duty, and are fighting for the very reasoning why we are in Iraq now....and to post such an insulting comment not only does it insult the deeased, but it also insults those of us who served, and just might end up getting you PERMABANNED or, you just might know someone here, and they just might stomp you as needed.


I like the "how stupid you really are" remark good stuff. I said that to "me" what this article was talking about i did not argee with that is all.You assume alot of thing from that.I am not anti or pro war and i am not looking for what you call trouble (whatever that means).Making threats over the internet is stupid.It shows that you are not a tolerant
person.Why would you assume that I have never served my country just because i do not agree with this article? And it seems like you are the one who is trolling.But see I do not have a problem with your attitude you are free to think what you may.

8thidpathfinderpower
01-19-2007, 08:21 PM
I like the "how stupid you really are" remark good stuff. I said that to "me" what this article was talking about i did not argee with that is all.You assume alot of thing from that.I am not anti or pro war and i am not looking for what you call trouble (whatever that means).Making threats over the internet is stupid.It shows that you are not a tolerant
person.Why would you assume that I have never served my country just because i do not agree with this article? And it seems like you are the one who is trolling.But see I do not have a problem with your attitude you are free to think what you may.

Why thank you......what ever. In life, it is not what we say or write, but HOW we write or say it. And to be honest, what you posted, was very disrespectful to the deceased, and to others who have served. Now with that being said, what makes this USA great, is we can say, and write, and worship and what ever else,(all done within all moral reasoning, of course)we want without persecution to our beliefs.(in principal,of course) But, just remember...it is not what you say, but how you say it. Stating your beliefs here, especially when it deals with a deceased soldier, and what ever else you call it, can get you into trouble. And, it also is not cool to do so, ever. So in closing, please, please show a little bit more respect, because the person who you just "stated your opinion,in a objective way" about just gave HIS/HER life so you can troll, and do what ever it is you think is objective,there sport.