The Beast of War

[Havoc345]

A great movie on the Soviet-Afghan War

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-168109140962094647&q=soviet+afghanistan

[Conde]

i have this movie.

Is a great movie indeed, and the movie shows a hatch beneath the T-72, that i didnt know it existed, is this a real deal or a just a movie hatch ?

[Hutz]

i have this movie.

Is a great movie indeed, and the movie shows a hatch beneath the T-72, that i didnt know it existed, is this a real deal or a just a movie hatch ?

Wasn't it a T-54? Good movie.

[Molli]

Nope, in the story, a T-62. For real a T-55. :)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Beast_%281988_film%29

[PrinzEugen]

i have this movie.

Is a great movie indeed, and the movie shows a hatch beneath the T-72, that i didnt know it existed, is this a real deal or a just a movie hatch ?

Apart from the hatch it's also "extra" equiped with flamethrower and some sort of motion detector. Good film though.

[Heretic Dave]

One of the worst parts of the movie is where the main character repairs the afghani's RPG with a mysterious part from under the rear sight of a Lee Enfield No1. - pretty cheesy...

[stayr]

soviet maniacs
http://forum.pravda.com.ua/smileys/gigi.gif
b******* IMHO ))

[Dutch Tanker]

IIR it is a Israeli TI-67 ( Originally T-55). It has a 105mm L7 gun and centurion stowage boxes. Atleast every German tank is equipped with an escape hatch underneath. Don't know about the rest.Except for the Merkava, that is in the rear. It is a real B##ch to exit a tank that way...

[AT-T]

That flamethrower-engineer-chemical warfare-battle-tank was quite funny.
Soviets EVIL!!!


BTW bottom hatch is standard on all soviet tanks since T-34. Infact it's pretty useful to escape disabled tank under enemy fire or evacuate a wounded by driving over him and pulling him inside. However on autoloader tanks it's not easy to access.

[Canuck Farrier]

Great movie I own it as well.

[Bombtrack]

They called me Tankboy

[Johnny_H02]

Its alright, ahahah Manny from Scarface as a Afghan doesn't really seem believable to me.
Other then that its not bad, Its funny how perspective changes in a mere 20 years, I mean these guys would all be "Insurgents" or "Terrorists" by todays standards.

[Dutch Tanker]

That flamethrower-engineer-chemical warfare-battle-tank was quite funny.
Soviets EVIL!!!


BTW bottom hatch is standard on all soviet tanks since T-34. Infact it's pretty useful to escape disabled tank under enemy fire or evacuate a wounded by driving over him and pulling him inside. However on autoloader tanks it's not easy to access.

Have you ever tried it on a non autolaoder tank? Still a B##ch!!! On the Leopard 2 you have to remove the backsupport before you can exit.:-(

[Smartenheimer]

What's the "russian" chopper in the film?

[neseli]

dshk was not real..it was M2Hb ..but it was covered dshk parts...

[neseli]

What's the "russian" chopper in the film?


it was french made super frelon...

[Dutch Tanker]

What's the "russian" chopper in the film?
IIR a Super Frelon.

[neseli]

there is a great mistake in the movie..rifles were AK47...ACTUALLY during all afganistan operations russian forces used ak74s ...

second one is about ****y trapped gunshell...hand grenades does not explodes instantly.....

[neseli]

3- T55 tanks were used with 4 persons...because no front machine gun on the tank...

[Hydro]

there is a great mistake in the movie..rifles were AK47...ACTUALLY during all afganistan operations russian forces used ak74s ...





All of them? Are you sure?

[Sergei]

Hehe, Tanks without infantry. I would have believed it, if the tankers were the suicide type of guys, but they weren't.

My favorite "evil soviets" movie along with "Red Dawn".:)

[flanker7]

All of them? Are you sure?

There are several photos of Soviet forces using AK-47s in Afganistan and even up to today

[Hydro]

It's an entertaining film. I enjoy it.


The tank combat effects are possibly the most realistic I've seen in a film involving armour.

[Hydro]

There are several photos of Soviet forces using AK-47s in Afganistan and even up to today


That's what I'm getting at. There's a fairly common photo of a Russian soldier (could be from a Spetznaz unit) firing a newly arrived GP25 attached to an AKMS on the range.

[neseli]

All of them? Are you sure?

esspecially assault units were equippied with AK 74s...l heve never seen any picture AK47 equipped soviet soldiers in the afganistan..maybe non combat units reserve units or native afgan units could be equiiped ak47s...

[RomanS]

There are several photos of Soviet forces using AK-47s in Afganistan and even up to today

Not AK-47s

A K M my friend.

2 different weapons, from 2 different times

[Hokiecadet]

it is sittng literally like two feet above my head at my desk. i absolutely loved it. I agree best "evil soviets" movie along with Red Dawn.

I found it interesting how the one guy that has a problem with just about everything the TC does has a pretty extensive service record. But again I loved and will probably watch it this weekend.

[flanker7]

Not AK-47s

A K M my friend.

2 different weapons, from 2 different times


Correct! :) I meant the 7,62 AKs

[Hokiecadet]

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/0/0f/Thebeast.jpg

[Dutch Tanker]

there is a great mistake in the movie..rifles were AK47...ACTUALLY during all afganistan operations russian forces used ak74s ...

second one is about ****y trapped gunshell...hand grenades does not explodes instantly.....

You can set the russian type (forgot what type) handgrenade to a zero second delay. So it explodes instantly. In Bosnia they used to saw off the handle(don't know the correct name) pull the pin but hold the handle and put it BACK in the plastic transport cups.If you would open a transport cup I would explode immediately. They would leave a few with abandoned equipment and they would be sure that nobody would touch anything, but them. Easy, very cheap and relatively safe (for their own guys). But according to the Geneva covention it is forbidden.

[neseli]

You can set the russian type (forgot what type) handgrenade to a zero second delay. So it explodes instantly. In Bosnia they used to saw off the handle(don't know the correct name) pull the pin but hold the handle and put it BACK in the plastic transport cups.If you would open a transport cup I would explode immediately. They would leave a few with abandoned equipment and they would be sure that nobody would touch anything, but them. Easy, very cheap and relatively safe (for their own guys). But according to the Geneva covention it is forbidden.

l saw a lot of russian ıraq and chinese made hand grenades south-eastern Turkiye...but l have never seen zero delay hand grenades..

but l know that some anti personel mines look like hand grenades...

[Dutch Tanker]

Originally it is not, but it is easy to do, that is why it is forbidden by the Geneva convention. When I was in Bosnia, a sergeant from the AFBih EOD showed me the trick and explained me the way they used it.

[AT-T]

The greatest mistake was soviet tanks attacking a village without infantry support (LOL), exiting their tanks in the middle of the battle (LOL), use some sort of "chemical weapon smoke grenade" (LOL), take flamethrowers, satchel charges and RPGs out of their tanks (and they had even place for 5th crewman, T-62 rulez).

And to complete the "Soviets EVIL vs Jihadist NOBLE" image, in the best tradition of middle-age witch trials, even poison the well rofl.

BTW in the 80s Soviets already replaced traditional flamethrowers with RPO-A thermobaric launchers (but the designation still remained flamethrower)

[LEGEND]

I think one of the biggest flaws in the opening scene is the tank commander riding in a gas mask, he would simply drown in his sweat riding in a gas mask in an unairconditioned tank in a desertrofl

But he does look evil in the gas mask, and i guess that was the main point that the director tried to get across:)

[Roy Batty]

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/0/0f/Thebeast.jpg

That's awesome. I bought my copy of this movie from a local vendor in Afghanistan. :D

[Roy Batty]

I think one of the biggest flaws in the opening scene is the tank commander riding in a gas mask, he would simply drown in his sweat riding in a gas mask in an unairconditioned tank in a desertrofl

But he does look evil in the gas mask, and i guess that was the main point that the director tried to get across:)

We train to dig defensive positions in that heat in full NBCD gear including MOPP suits and masks.

[SBL]

It's a fun movie, not to be taken too seriously. I kind of liked the hard-driving sargent/officer character, he seemed to be the only one who knew what the score was.p-)

[Dutch Tanker]

I think one of the biggest flaws in the opening scene is the tank commander riding in a gas mask, he would simply drown in his sweat riding in a gas mask in an unairconditioned tank in a desertrofl

But he does look evil in the gas mask, and i guess that was the main point that the director tried to get across:)


I haven't been in the desert with the Leo( I'm not canadian!!!) but last summer it was 35 degrees C, and yes, I had my gas mask on, and yes, it is very hot, because we don't have an ac unit ( It is coming!!!). But that is just the way it is.

[AT-T]

Another poster of that movie. Looks a bit more dramatic.

http://img440.imageshack.us/img440/2896/20060217195158thebeastp1sn.jpg
Godzilla T-62 with a 16" gun rofl

[grabie_bis]

i have this movie.

Is a great movie indeed, and the movie shows a hatch beneath the T-72, that i didnt know it existed, is this a real deal or a just a movie hatch ?


is your avatar a soldier from Spanish Mountain Brigade?

[wicked_hind]

l saw a lot of russian ıraq and chinese made hand grenades south-eastern Turkiye...but l have never seen zero delay hand grenades..

but l know that some anti personel mines look like hand grenades...

One of those AP mines I can think of is the POM-Z, which sort of looks like an old Mk.1 pineapple grenade with a stick. Great movie, think the funny part is when they go overkill on all those deer after the night ambush scene.

[LRPV]

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/69/Grenade_RGD-5_Navy.jpg/300px-Grenade_RGD-5_Navy.jpg (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Grenade_RGD-5_Navy.jpg)

This RDG5 Soviet grenade can be fused to instant, ie zero seconds delay. They were still in service in Cambodia in the 1990's.

[KillerBD]

Good post, I was looking for the full version of this film not long ago and Google, and Youtube.

Now only if I could find the "9th Company" for free on Google, that would be nice.

[T-62]

I have this one on DVD. There is a Russian movie about the Afghan war with an Italian actor the guy who is the detective in the Italian tv show called Octopus or ekhtaput something. I saw part of that movie when I was in Afghanistan and then the Taliban cut power to kabul so I couldnt see the second half. I think the movie is called Afghan break down I dont remember the Russian name. Anyway, if our Russian freinds can help a little that would be great. Its the movie with Comissar Kantani in it.

[DevilDogHopeful]

Great movie.

[Sickle]

I have this one on DVD. There is a Russian movie about the Afghan war with an Italian actor the guy who is the detective in the Italian tv show called Octopus or ekhtaput something. I saw part of that movie when I was in Afghanistan and then the Taliban cut power to kabul so I couldnt see the second half. I think the movie is called Afghan break down I dont remember the Russian name. Anyway, if our Russian freinds can help a little that would be great. Its the movie with Comissar Kantani in it.


Афганский Излом (Afganskiy Izlom).

[MG 3]

Not acurate but still a fun movie.

[1911-a1]

seems like a good movie. What is in those yellow canisters? some kind of poison?

[Frutzel]

that was retarded. one of the worst movies I've ever seen. but anyway...thanks

[neseli]

seems like a good movie. What is in those yellow canisters? some kind of poison?


it can be kind of agent orange which water based poisons..
actually UN inspetctors detetcted usage of different kind of poisons in afghanistan...

[mannelig]

T-55 promo:)