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Loki77
01-23-2007, 11:14 AM
West left in the cold in Arctic oil boom

Carl Mortished and Julian Evans


Moscow has closed the door further to Western participation in Russia’s Arctic energy wealth with a proposal to grant Rosneft and Gazprom, the state oil and gas companies, exclusive rights to develop offshore oil and gas. President Putin has approved the decision to grant Gazprom and Rosneft a monopoly through amendments to laws on subsoil use and offshore activity, according to Russian media reports.

The initiative will be another blow to the big Western energy companies, for which the Russian Arctic offers tantalising reserves of oil and gas, now receding beyond reach. Last summer, Mr Putin ruled that Shtokman, a giant gasfield in the Barents Sea, would be developed by Gazprom alone. His decision was a rebuff to several American and European oil companies that had hoped to take part. In December, Gazprom took control of Sakhalin-2, another giant gas project in Eastern Siberia, sidelining Shell, the operator.

Valeri Nesterov, an oil and gas analyst at Troika Dialog, said that the market was getting used to Russia’s resource nationalism. “We still think Western firms will be involved in the consortiums for offshore projects, but they won’t be in the driving seat,” he said. Russia is believed to have enormous untapped oil and gas reserves off its coasts, particularly in the Arctic Sea and the Pacific coast. According to Wood Mackenzie, the oil consultancy, the undiscovered potential of the Arctic is vast. Some 160 billion barrels of oil and gas remain to be found — a resource equivalent to three times the total reserves of the UK North Sea when the first wells were sunk almost half a century ago.

Wood Mackenzie reckoned that Russia accounted for 60 per cent of those reserves, excluding fields already discovered, such as Shtokman. However, the consultants questioned whether Gazprom had the resources to develop such large offshore projects alone: “There is a heritage of exploration skills, but the scale required for production takes them into a different league.”

The Arctic Sea alone, which Russia is set to explore in partnership with Norwegian firms such as Statoil, is thought to contain at least a quarter of the world’s untapped gas reserves. The region has barely been explored, but as the polar ice-cap melts access is becoming easier. The Pacific coast, especially around the island of Sakhalin, is also a promising site for hydrocarbons.

Jonathan Stern, of the Oxford Energy Institute, said: “We’re not just talking about Sakhalin I or Sakhalin II here, but a whole region that will be of equivalent importance to the North Sea for future energy supplies.”


Region has huge untapped reserves


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TIMES ONLINE (http://business.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,13130-2560649,00.html)

Loki77
01-23-2007, 11:22 AM
...The Arctic Circle is very cold, dark and the environment is ultrafragile. Unlike Antarctica, whose territory is shared by all the world's nations, no such treaty exists in the Arctic.
...So questions over who can drill where, who can use which shipping lanes and who gets what royalties are all unanswered. I'm scare about Artic future because an potential oil spill in arctic waters would have disastrous consequences.

Thor
01-23-2007, 12:28 PM
Uhm, isn't there a clear division of territorial waters and economic zones?

Loki77
01-23-2007, 01:18 PM
Uhm, isn't there a clear division of territorial waters and economic zones?
...The nations that border the Arctic Circle are signatories to a treaty that gives them exclusive control over coastal waters extending 200 miles from shore. But under this treaty, it is possible to file a petition to extend that range beyond 200 miles. This is a question...

....The Antarctic was carved up in 1959, no international treaty exists to determine the extent of each Arctic nation's ownership.

Bert
01-23-2007, 01:56 PM
Uhm, isn't there a clear division of territorial waters and economic zones?

No

http://www.sikkerhetspolitikk.no/kart/hav/3.htm

And only recently was the division line between Greenlandic and Norwegian (Svalbard) waters decided on.

Loki77
01-23-2007, 03:03 PM
No

http://www.sikkerhetspolitikk.no/kart/hav/3.htm

And only recently was the division line between Greenlandic and Norwegian (Svalbard) waters decided on.

....There are disputes set to ignite from the countries involved about Oil, Gas and another resources. Mainly five nations, Russia, Canada, Denmark(Greenland), Norway and US(Alaska). The three other nations, Iceland, Sweden and Finland are secondary in dispute...

Read:

The U.S. Geological Survey suggests that the Arctic Circle may hold more that 25% of the world's untapped reserves. And this number doesn't reflect the vast unknown potential the area contains. Fact is, the Artic Circle is one of the most unexplored areas left on earth, and could very well include oil fields that would rival those drilled in the Middle East. http://www.stockhouse.ca/shfn/editorial.asp?edtid=19185

Mastermind
01-23-2007, 04:19 PM
What the heck...Global warming will kill us all long before we ever get to a point where we need the Arctic oil. MM

annihilation
01-23-2007, 06:40 PM
What the heck...Global warming will kill us all long before we ever get to a point where we need the Arctic oil. MM

But think of it this way, with global warming the ice caps will melt and it will make it alot easier to tap those reserves located up there.

Loki77
01-23-2007, 06:52 PM
But think of it this way, with global warming the ice caps will melt and it will make it alot easier to tap those reserves located up there.

You're right.
...The melting of the ice pack is opening up vast reserves of oil and gas, new shipping routes and fishing grounds. However, is growing international tension over the Arctic.

ex Strathcona
01-23-2007, 08:49 PM
Canada claims a 200 mile limit but the U.S. for one does not recognise it. i know the Government has made securing our sovereignty in the north a high priority as they feel that very soon the North West passage will be open to shipping at least part of the year.
hopefully things get sorted out for the better soon

Roy Batty
01-23-2007, 08:54 PM
Man I'm gonna get posted to Churchill....I just know it! :D

boone
01-23-2007, 09:04 PM
I think you just offended all 12 people in Churchill. And a couple polar bears prolly. nice.

ex Strathcona
01-23-2007, 09:37 PM
I think you just offended all 12 people in Churchill. And a couple polar bears prolly. nice.

that place is over run with polar bears. and not the cute and cuddly looking ones either..

Loki77
01-23-2007, 09:51 PM
Canada claims a 200 mile limit but the U.S. for one does not recognise it. i know the Government has made securing our sovereignty in the north a high priority as they feel that very soon the North West passage will be open to shipping at least part of the year.
hopefully things get sorted out for the better soon

..However, there is a tension between Canada and Denmark, about Hans Island in the eastern Arctic region. The dispute began, when scientists said the region around the island is very rich in oil.

ex Strathcona
01-23-2007, 09:53 PM
..However, there is a tension between Canada and Denmark, about Hans Island in the eastern Arctic region. The dispute began, when scientists said the region around the island is very rich in oil.

very true, but i am certain that that is one dispute that will be sorted out in a peaceful and mutually accommodating manner. others i am not so sure about..

boone
01-23-2007, 10:04 PM
True. Both sides in that dispute have maintained a sense of humour about arguing over Hans. Both sides definately want sovergeinty but at least they're not getting s***ty about it.

Besides, Nobody wants the Danes invading Nfld.... Again. (in your FACE Columbus!!)

ex Strathcona
01-23-2007, 10:22 PM
lets settle it over a game of hockey, looser buys the beers then we say hell with it and just split the island down the middle anyway.

or time share it

boone
01-23-2007, 10:28 PM
sounds about right for us. Do we have to wait for the end of the third period for beers, tho?

ex Strathcona
01-23-2007, 10:53 PM
woot
of course not!
cheers

Mastermind
01-24-2007, 10:07 AM
Maybe I should go up there and start buying future beach front property. Las Vegas is nice, but the summers here are brutal....hmmmm....How long does Al Gore say we have left before "global warming" melts the poles? MM

annihilation
01-24-2007, 11:36 AM
Maybe I should go up there and start buying future beach front property. Las Vegas is nice, but the summers here are brutal....hmmmm....How long does Al Gore say we have left before "global warming" melts the poles? MM


The day after tomorrow.....

XShipRider
01-24-2007, 07:17 PM
...The Arctic Circle is very cold, dark and the environment is ultrafragile. Unlike Antarctica, whose territory is shared by all the world's nations, no such treaty exists in the Arctic.


It would help if there were actual territory (soil) beneath the ice cap other
than water.

Loki77
01-25-2007, 12:08 AM
It would help if there were actual territory (soil) beneath the ice cap other
than water.

...Yes is pure Ice and you cannot help. However, under this Ice are nearly 25% of Oil and Gas in the world. Rising global temperatures are causing formerly impenetrable ice sheets to melt and access to Arctic energy resources is increasing.


Really, really sad, but there isn't no such treaty about Arctic Circle future and access to Arctic Oil and Gas has brought several territorial disputes. These include disagreements between Russia and Norway over the Barents Sea; Canada and the US on several matters; Russia and the US over the Bering Sea; and Canada and Denmark over Hans Island.


It's about Oil and Gas, tension between states will increase in Arctic Circle.

Durandal
01-25-2007, 10:27 AM
It's about Oil and Gas, tension between states will increase[/FONT][/SIZE] in Arctic Circle.

rofl

Its all about corn man.

For right now at least.

And I am growing 190 acres of it, which amounts to about 22 thousand bushels...lets see where corn prices are in November.

I am betting between 7 and 10 U.S. dollars per bu.

You guys can bitch about gas and oil all you want.