SASR in Tattoos

[sjsoon]

Searching in defence website. Saw this. Not sure if its repost. Interesting picture.

[shortyirish12]

Does Australia not have a sequence for the wearing of there ribbons? I have seen this a few other times where the ribbons are all mixed up on a few different soldiers. Or do they just wear them in the order they earned them? I know in Canada, England and the states to name a few there is an order in which they are to be worn. In saying that I do not know the order in which australia's would go in, nor am I familiar with all of there decorations.

[OzMan]

SASR in watches:

http://www.casio.com/resource/images/xlarge/dw6600c-1v_xlarge.jpg

Can't blame 'em. I used to have the same model. But I still wear a G-shock.

[winchester_down]

It could be something about his regy number and blood type , i've seen that done before. I could be anything obviously


And on the watches, i still wear that model, its the best watch ive had, no need to replace it.

[Five-to-One]

I thought tattoos were banned in all special forces outfits? what are the rules on them in SAS/JTF-2 etc..

[Buzzbug]

I thought tattoos were banned in all special forces outfits? what are the rules on them in SAS/JTF-2 etc..

I worked with a few guys from SASR who have some tats.
The best one i have seen is a full back tat of some wicked looking wings.
The guy is about 6ft something and you would cross the road just to get out of his may.
He is one mean looking dude.

Lee.

[Irish_11]

It could be something about his regy number and blood type , i've seen that done before.


x2 thats what im thinking

[kamarian]

Does Australia not have a sequence for the wearing of there ribbons? I have seen this a few other times where the ribbons are all mixed up on a few different soldiers. Or do they just wear them in the order they earned them? I know in Canada, England and the states to name a few there is an order in which they are to be worn. In saying that I do not know the order in which australia's would go in, nor am I familiar with all of there decorations.

There is an order that they are worn in, and it goes from the highest on the left(when you look at them) to the lowest on the right. As you can see the 2 troopers have a couple of ribbons that are the same, but are in a different order as one has a couple of higher awards as the other.

[ShotOver]

could be his kids names, or names of mates killed.

The position of the tattoo is a good sign that it is Blood Type, service number.. etc. Oldschool Sailors have the same tattoo's, often see Warrant Officers cruising around with it.
But yeah, it's just a tattoo... not a huge deal p-)

[kamarian]

The position of the tattoo is a good sign that it is Blood Type, service number.. etc. Oldschool Sailors have the same tattoo's, often see Warrant Officers cruising around with it.
But yeah, it's just a tattoo... not a huge deal p-)

I've seen blood type and names and stuff like that, but it is usually on the outside of the arm, and i've seen personal stuff like family and mates names on the inside, but like you said, it's only a tat.

[mikec62001]

I've noticed in my research on Special Operations Forces that you'll notice quite a lot have tattoos.

But I think it's just a general military thing...

Regular soldiers will have tatoos....for example members of the British Parachute Regiment will usually get the parachute wings on their arm.

John McAlease who was former Royal Engineers before joining the Regiment has a lot of Tats. Ed Stone - Former Scots Guards has quite a few tats.

I know it's common in British forces....I haven't seen many US forces (SOF) with tatoos only a few SEALs. Not sure if it's something you do if you're in the US military.

Here's a pic of a dude from the Czech Republic's 601st Special Forces Group (see pic) with a tat.

[kayaker]

very first pic of the thread:

nice advert for G-shock!

[Ripcord]

my guess is Blood type and something else
fairly common (in that exact same spot..where a needle would go)

There are no restrictions for Tattoo's in any of the branchs of the Canadian Military.(although I am sure a full body tattoo or facial tattoo would be an exception)

also I wonder what the punishment is for haveing a button undone? :)

[ozumn]

Do you realy wanna show the enemy your blood type?

[ShotOver]

Do you realy wanna show the enemy your blood type?

Why would it be a problem?

[mikec62001]

Does anyone know the actual make of the G-shock watch those SASR guys have?

There are soo many models and it would be good to know.

Cheers

[Argyll]

Doesn't matter what type of blood group you are, in a combat situation they give you a generic type.

[Lancero]

I guess you should have started by getting the hires (http://www.defence.gov.au/media/download/2006/Dec/20061202a/20061201adf8161479_019.jpg)of that pic.

Luckly it doens't get much clearer what's writen there ;)

http://img440.imageshack.us/img440/413/tatoj2.jpg

[winchester_down]

Doesn't matter what type of blood group you are, in a combat situation they give you a generic type.

I've heard that too, i think they give you O until they do a proper blood test.



As far as the actual model of G-shock watch, there are two types in the picture, the one on the right is the one someone posted on the previous page.
The other is more recent, why dont you check the G-shock website or retailers site. surely they will have em.

[kayaker]

indeed it is O

until a proper check? Isn't what it states on the dog tag enough convincing (Argyll?)? I thought its just that only all blood types are located in the hospital... not the need for a blood test first, to see which protein your have on the RBC membrane, before inserting a blood line.

[Vendetta]

I doubt it would be kids/family, enemy likes that info.

[Thor]

I've heard that too, i think they give you O until they do a proper blood test.
O- for blood, and AB for plasma.

[AICW40mm]

There is an order that they are worn in, and it goes from the highest on the left(when you look at them) to the lowest on the right. As you can see the 2 troopers have a couple of ribbons that are the same, but are in a different order as one has a couple of higher awards as the other..

Not quite. In this case the Lance Jack on the left has recently been awarded two ribbons that he is wearing out of order (on top) because he hasn't got around to getting them re-racked in the right order. These things basically rock up in your mail when the admin system decideds you have a right to wear them.

In this case its the ADM (red medal) being the junior most ADF medal (4 years service, a sop for old national servicemen from the 50s) and the UN Medal for East Timor being a non-ADF medal worn last. The Corporal in the centre has these two medals positioned correctly on the outside.

The tatt looks like a motto or famous quote or something.

[bigjeff]

Question:Is tattoo allowed for like honor guards protecting the queen?

[platypus]

G Shock Model is/was the DW6600
Cheap, solid and reliable

[ShotOver]

G Shock Model is/was the DW6600
Cheap, solid and reliable

That the issued G-shock? I remember a couple mates of mine who were ex-ARA used to still wear theirs.
I bought the same model, for about 160-180$ a couple years ago.

[sjsoon]

G Shock Model is/was the DW6600
Cheap, solid and reliable

thanks platy.. ;)

[winchester_down]

That the issued G-shock? I remember a couple mates of mine who were ex-ARA used to still wear theirs.
I bought the same model, for about 160-180$ a couple years ago.

yep the issued model,

they're good to go, .............i wish chocos got em too, damn ARA lolrofl

[ShotOver]

yep the issued model,

they're good to go, .............i wish chocos got em too, damn ARA lolrofl

Well if they don't let you blokes keep your trunks from Kapooka I don't think they will give you a watch p-)

[winchester_down]

Well if they don't let you blokes keep your trunks from Kapooka I don't think they will give you a watch p-)

Yeh i agree, i mst admit if i did get one it wold have become an ice tray for beer, so probably better off.p-)

PM inbound PT

[XIE]

What does a reservist need a nice new G-Shock for? Making sure that his 3 hours are filled and time to go home?

[ArmyJonHall]

So they know when Morno's is on. God help if you're late for Morno's.

I was lucky enough to get a Traser H3 Navigator from the missus for my birthday, the titanium and carbon fibre model. $700. Pity it came with a ****ty 'NATO' strap.

[ShotOver]

So they know when Morno's is on. God help if you're late for Morno's.

I was lucky enough to get a Traser H3 Navigator from the missus for my birthday, the titanium and carbon fibre model. $700. Pity it came with a ****ty 'NATO' strap.

700$ Watch from the missus? Where did you get her? I want a missus like that haha :lol:

[Creeper]

Doesn't matter what type of blood group you are, in a combat situation they give you a generic type.
That genreric type is Plasma from AB blood.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/1/1a/Plasma-donation.png/180px-Plasma-donation.png (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Plasma-donation.png)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blood_types#Universal_donors_and_universal_recipients
p-)

[Sabre]

Does anyone know the actual make of the G-shock watch those SASR guys have?

There are soo many models and it would be good to know.

Cheers

...Why?



That genreric type is Plasma from AB blood.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/1/1a/Plasma-donation.png/180px-Plasma-donation.png (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Plasma-donation.png)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blood_types#Universal_donors_and_universal_recipients
p-)

Not quite mate. Thor got it right.

When blood is donated, it can be split down into different components. The simplest break down being packed red cells (ie just blood cells) in one bag and plasma (the fluid, with all the protiens etc floating in it) in another bag.

Red blood cells have loads of marker proteins on their surface. There are around 50-odd different ways of categorising them to select appropriate blood for transfer. The most common proteins used however are the A and B proteins.

Type A blood has A proteins. Type B blood has B proteins. Type AB blood has both A and B proteins and type O blood has neither.

The body produces antibodies against the type(s) of protein it doesnt have. So Type A blood has anti-B antibodies. Type B blood has anti-A. Type AB blood has no antibodies and type O blood has both anti-A and anti-B.

These antibodies float around in the plasma waiting to be used. So the antibodies go with the plasma in a transfusion.

If you give Packed Red Cells (ie a dark red bag of oxygen-carrying blood cells) to a recipient, you must make sure that their own antibodies wont attack the 'new' blood cells. This is why the 'universal' donor blood cell type is Type O. It has neither A nor B proteins, so there is nothing for the recipients antibodies to attack. For this reason, the 'universal' recipient is AB. They have no A or B antibodies to attack the 'new' blood cells.

The opposite is true for plasma transfusions. You are giving the recipient the stuff the antibodies float around in, instead of the things they attack. So this time the 'universal' doner plasma is AB, because there are no A or B antibodies to attack the recipient's blood cells. So the universal recipient here is type O. They have no A or B cell proteins for the antibodies to attack.

Of course, the issue is never this simple. Sometimes, some plasma may get into the packed red cell bags and vice versa. There are also the many other protein types that aren't considered by this system. There is always a chance for an immune reaction when giving blood products. Staff in any hospital will want to check the patients blood type themselves first and preferably cross match it. This involves taking some of the patient's blood, and some of the blood from the bag and mixing it together to see if there is a reaction. It takes a bit longer but is worth it if possible.

Why don't you trust the blood group on the casualties' kit?
-Did the squaddie get told the wrong blood group to begin with?
-Did he borrow that shirt of a mate because his was in the wash?
-etc etc

As with anything in the military, if it's your responsibility, check it yourself. You wouldn't go out on patrol with a weapon you were told was made ready, without checking it yourself first, would you?

[gearqueer]

Hey winchester down, pm me your choco unit details. You said you knew someone who had their regi number tattooed on themselves. I have a funny feeling we may know the same person

[kayaker]

Why don't you trust the blood group on the casualties' kit?
-Did the squaddie get told the wrong blood group to begin with?
-Did he borrow that shirt of a mate because his was in the wash?
-etc etc

As with anything in the military, if it's your responsibility, check it yourself. You wouldn't go out on patrol with a weapon you were told was made ready, without checking it yourself first, would you?
I assumed that before the MOD adds blood type to the ID tags that it had to be checked with an official document first.


Not quite mate. Thor got it right.

actually a reversal of the diagram creeper posted...

[Sabre]

I assumed that before the MOD adds blood type to the ID tags that it had to be checked with an official document first.

Yes, it's from official MoD records. But I trust the MoD about as much as I can reason their procurement strategies...


actually a reversal of the diagram creeper posted...

Creeper posted the correct diagram for plasma transfusions. The other diagram on the wikipedia page is the correct diagram for blood cell trasfusions. Quite logically they are the opposite way around.

[kayaker]

indeed.

Didnt look on the wikki page but as we were talkin about blood trans. the correct diagram is just a reversal of the one posted.. what I said in my previous post.

[ShotOver]

Hey winchester down, pm me your choco unit details. You said you knew someone who had their regi number tattooed on themselves. I have a funny feeling we may know the same person

It's a pretty common practise in the ADF mate, I can think of 6 blokes I know with it right off the top of my head, even more if I stop to think about it. But yeah, could be the same bloke - it's not my place. Just simply saying..

[digrar]

In future if you have a bit of man crush and feel all light headed from seeing a couple of large blokes with big watches on, wait untill you've calmed down before posting.


The tattoo is a regi number and blood group tat. Every man and his dog has one.

[Creeper]

@ SABRE & Ryan: many thanks for the assist. I did not want to stray 2 far off the "Tat" issue. You both had good reading.
No worries.
@ Digar: I see you "cleaned" house up-Little. LMFAO!
TY 4 the final authoritive input- I took the pic over 2 Picasa for a close look see-with no definitive results! LOL

Cheers.

[kayaker]

No drama creeper... it was all Sabre really.

[Sabre]

It's all on wikipedia really...not that I dont know it anyway p-)