FBI Launches Massive Internet User Tracking & Profiling Database

[Loki77]

FBI turns to broad new wiretap method

By Declan McCullagh
Staff Writer, CNET News.com
Published: January 30, 2007


The FBI appears to have adopted an invasive Internet surveillance technique that collects far more data on innocent Americans than previously has been disclosed.

Instead of recording only what a particular suspect is doing, agents conducting investigations appear to be assembling the activities of thousands of Internet users at a time into massive databases, according to current and former officials. That database can subsequently be queried for names, e-mail addresses or keywords.
Complete Story:
http://news.com.com/FBI+turns+to+broad+new+wiretap+method/2100-7348_3-6154457.html

[a_very_ex_STAB]

Looks like y'all in the land of the free had better start praising The Great War Leader in all of your postings :)

[sferrin]

Looks like y'all in the land of the free had better start praising The Great War Leader in all of your postings :)

You would know.

[WarriorMonk]

Looks like y'all in the land of the free had better start praising The Great War Leader in all of your postings :)

do you EVER play devil's advocate or what?

[Mastermind]

No...Ex-stab is using his very witty and usually to-the-point one liners.

The truth is, the security forces have been doing this for quite a long time, now. In fact, it is highly unlikely all the "pfishing" and "worms" and c-viruses" and such are not originated by the gvts of the world. They would be insane not to. If some 15 year old kid can hack into millions of home computers in less than a week and grab everything from credit card numbers to bank accounts, most certainly the Gvt can and does with anything they want on the internet.

This is totally not new news to me! MM

[name already taken]

Looks like y'all in the land of the free had better start praising The Great War Leader in all of your postings :)
Now that goverment agencies act against the law, I don't see what else the rest of us can do to protect ourselves against the obviously good intentions of our government.

Maybe praising the lord will help ?

[XShipRider]

Get a packet sniffer (freeware) to see exactly what is going in and out of your computer. Here's one which requires no registration: http://www.nirsoft.net/utils/smsniff.html I found one site which was sending my username and password in the clear. Nice.

[LRPV]

Thanks for that sniffer link.

[RECON DOC]

Are we supposed to be surprised or something?

[farmgirl]

Personally, I've always had great respect for the FBI, and all other government agencies... especially the IRS.....

























What?

[szr]

Looks like y'all in the land of the free had better start praising The Great War Leader in all of your postings :)
Two words: Extraordinary Rendition.

Enjoy your flight. ;)

[name already taken]

Personally, I've always had great respect for the FBI, and all other government agencies... especially the IRS.....

























What?
Farmgirl, this is a particularly noble attitude and example you are setting forth for others to follow.

In some circles this is also quoted as leadership. :)

[name already taken]

Get a packet sniffer (freeware) to see exactly what is going in and out of your computer. Here's one which requires no registration: http://www.nirsoft.net/utils/smsniff.html I found one site which was sending my username and password in the clear. Nice.
Thanks for the sniffer link XShipRider p-)

[Mastermind]

I thought we had a security button in Windows that restricted outgoing communications...Like "No transfer without permission" ...I'm not that smart about these things...but Ithought I heard it on Kim Kommando show or something. MM

[playtym]

Farmgirl, this is a particularly noble attitude and example you are setting forth for others to follow.

In some circles this is also quoted as leadership. :)

I think it was aimed more at the people intercepting the message. p-)

[a_very_ex_STAB]

Two words: Extraordinary Rendition.

Enjoy your flight. ;)

Your gubmint numpties will have to catch me first. :)
I wouldn't trust them to take a dump without specific detailed instructions.

You missed out praise for the Great War Leader in your posting szr - get ready for that night time knock on the door !

[Mastermind]

We all only have as much freedom as our governments are willing to allow us to have. It can all be taken away overnight, no matter where you live. MM

[Cedan]

We all only have as much freedom as our governments are willing to allow us to have. It can all be taken away overnight, no matter where you live. MM

Doesn't the constitution then open for rebellion against the government? I seem to remeber something like that

[name already taken]

We all only have as much freedom as our governments are willing to allow us to have. It can all be taken away overnight, no matter where you live. MM
And what about Osama ?

And furthermore, you mean the population is the private property of the government ?
No need for a government in that case. Only need a King with a few friends...

[name already taken]

I think it was aimed more at the people intercepting the message. p-)
You're right, but you blewed it up :cantbeli:

[szr]

Your gubmint numpties will have to catch me first. :)
I wouldn't trust them to take a dump without specific detailed instructions.Sadly, this was the last time we ever heard from a_very_ex_STAB. He was abducted off the streets of Britain an hour later, and whisked away in an unmarked jet to an undisclosed location in central Asia.

[Mastermind]

And what about Osama ?

And furthermore, you mean the population is the private property of the government ?
No need for a government in that case. Only need a King with a few friends...
Do you honestly believe the population is not the private property of the gvt? They have already decided your private property is really theirs to take for any declared reason and this has been upheld in the highest court in the land! Look at the whimsical laws they pass, that affect every single person...and, shockingly, most laws are not passed by voters or even politicians...they are passed by bureaucrats, responsible for this dept and that. Law enforcement heads run any operation they please or are told to run by their handlers, so long as it is in alignment with so called "War on Drugs" or "War on Terror" or "war on ***. They order you to do absurdly silly things, like take your shoes off at airports and to walk in front of highly intrusive machines to study every part of your body...you do it without a whimper...if you complain, you go right to the head of the never-get-to-fly-again line ...this in the name of the great lord of public safety.

We are chattel...to our gvt masters. They tax us to any degree they want, they confiscate our property without due course, they ignor our border security for their own economic desires, the gvt only gives a damn about individuals when it suits their own needs...like catering to specific ethnic groups and ignoing others...class division and fear are their tools, and they keep us all on the leash of "perpetual entitlements" to select voting blocks making us regualr voters subservient to minority group whims and notions. If we resist, they toss us into their never ending human meat grinder called the criminal justice system.

As a people, we are dependant on them for every little aspect of our lives. If you don't believe this, just try bucking the system.

Yes...I believe we are the private property of our governments...And if you have not noticed, it IS a King with a few friends that run it all....MM

[Ddavid]

No...Ex-stab is using his very witty and usually to-the-point one liners.

The truth is, the security forces have been doing this for quite a long time, now. In fact, it is highly unlikely all the "pfishing" and "worms" and c-viruses" and such are not originated by the gvts of the world. They would be insane not to. If some 15 year old kid can hack into millions of home computers in less than a week and grab everything from credit card numbers to bank accounts, most certainly the Gvt can and does with anything they want on the internet.

This is totally not new news to me! MM

Bulgaria used to ship some virus to the news during the good old cold war, and PROMIS database client became world famous for his backdoor. Today, it would be unlikely than Windows had no backdoor as well. That's why foreign Intelligence Services don't use it.

Nowaday, lots of worms are sponsorized by criminal organisations but the main threat are botnets: herds of thousands of zombies PC remotely controlled by black hackers, used for spamming, phishing, and other criminal activities.
Unfortunatly, ISPs and Govts aren't doing much to adress that problem.

[Mastermind]

Bulgaria used to ship some virus to the news during the good old cold war, and PROMIS database client became world famous for his backdoor. Today, it would be unlikely than Windows had no backdoor as well. That's why foreign Intelligence Services don't use it.

Nowaday, lots of worms are sponsorized by criminal organisations but the main threat are botnets: herds of thousands of zombies PC remotely controlled by black hackers, used for spamming, phishing, and other criminal activities.
Unfortunatly, ISPs and Govts aren't doing much to adress that problem.
AH..how do we know they aren't? what better way to garner info than to tap the illicit tapping of illicit computers that are now slave to more illicit activity that illicit people are tapping? Down right Michiavellian. MM

[Ddavid]

AH..how do we know they aren't? what better way to garner info than to tap the illicit tapping of illicit computers that are now slave to more illicit activity that illicit people are tapping? Down right Michiavellian. MM

Botnets, in their current forms, are mostly used for : stealing personal data including credit cards number (called phishing), computers attacks against private firms (Banks, large e-commerce sites, etc...), but rarely goverment computers because otherwise the problem would be adressed.

That kind of information has little interest for the FBI anyway, and virus are too chaotic to be tracked. Of course, hackers works for the pentagon, Cia and other, but against specific targets or to test defenses of computers from .gov and .mil domains.
They would rather create large, structured system like the now deceased (?) Total Awareness program, or plug themselves into Google Desktop.

A recent estimate is 25% of US and British pc are zombies, belonging to a botnet. 10% in the rest of developed world (for linguistic reason mostly).

[isaac]

We all only have as much freedom as our governments are willing to allow us to have. It can all be taken away overnight, no matter where you live. MM

"That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles, and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness."

The only way an abrupt seizure of power could happen in this day and age is to have America disarmed by the democrats and then scared ****less by a terrorist, real or staged, attack on a massive scale. This would allow for the quick confiscation of individual freedoms in exchange for "protection."

The slow drain of liberties is worse, because people gradually accept them as a way of life and eventually forget wthe way things once were. This is arguably happening right now. When the fear leaves in the first situation you will probably have a good amount of upheaval, with this more widespread acceptance.

24 is doing a good job playing around with these concepts right now.

There is definately a fine line ridden at all times. It's good to keep an eye out but conspiracy nuts annoy me to no end.

[name already taken]

As a people, we are dependant on them for every little aspect of our lives. If you don't believe this, just try bucking the system.

Yes...I believe we are the private property of our governments...And if you have not noticed, it IS a King with a few friends that run it all....MM
OK. I will agree with you. But then you will have to agree with me that the pot growers are the only ones having it right. They do buck the system successfully day in and day out.

Pot growing is the largest cash crop in the United States. That means many people do know how to buck the system and some of them are doing it knowingly.

This is a crack in the floor that will someday bring the whole thing to the ground.

[a_very_ex_STAB]

Sadly, this was the last time we ever heard from a_very_ex_STAB. He was abducted off the streets of Britain an hour later, and whisked away in an unmarked jet to an undisclosed location in central Asia.


You forgot to praise the American Dream and Mom's apple pie in your posting szr.

Better get those orange coveralls on to save your captors the trouble :)

[Mastermind]

OK. I will agree with you. But then you will have to agree with me that the pot growers are the only ones having it right. They do buck the system successfully day in and day out.

Pot growing is the largest cash crop in the United States. That means many people do know how to buck the system and some of them are doing it knowingly.

This is a crack in the floor that will someday bring the whole thing to the ground.

Considering the current system in the US and most western Gvts, I do not believe there could ever be an armed uprising of the people. People surrender their freedoms out of apathy ("well, it does not affect me directly") or out of stupidity ("Yeah, we should arrest anyone defacing the flag!") or out of fear ("Yes, the gvt should jail anyone who speaks against the war effort!") They don't realize at the moment that after a freedom has been taken, it is seldom returned. New generations are raised living in the tighter bounds of the new rules and have no idea the freedoms their fathers had. If you transplanted a person from 1935 USA into today's restrictive world, he or she would be appalled. Yet, we drift along thinking everything is just fine.

People are absolutely loath to revolt against their safe and sane gvt. they will put up with all kinds of outragous gvt behavior to avoid the even worse agony revolution would bring. We should remember, in the US Revolutionary war, most Continental people were highly in support of the King and England.They understood the value of independance..but they wanted a kind of "Commonwealth" status, where they could rely on England for security. Stepping off was really a scary thing to do.

Thus, the most an oppressed people can hope for is a peaceful revolution (a form of which we Americans go through every four years) or an uncontrolled but "bloodless" revolution, such as came in the economic crash of 1929 or came at the end of WWII...A bloody revolution is almost always rejected from within. MM

[oldsoak]

@ ex_stab You're already known mate. We're all feeds to get you to disclose your master plan.

[a_very_ex_STAB]

@ ex_stab You're already known mate. We're all feeds to get you to disclose your master plan.

I already have moles working at the highest level to destroy the system from within :)

[foxtrot023]

this is horrible, How can the FBI do this, bunch of wankers, and let me tell about the numbnuts we have as Prez.....he is the bestest ever, praise to all! thank you Glorious leader and the awesome forces of good














if you don´t get it, it was pulled from an episode of The Simpsons, one of Lisa´s penpals.

[Loki77]

FBI and MPAA help to train Swedish Police

Look out Pirate Bay, the FBI and the MPAA have joined forces to create a new Swedish anti-piracy 'p2p' "hit squad". Never one to let its interests anywhere in the world go unprotected, the United States govt and the MPAA have teamed up with the Swedish govt to create an elite corps of Swedish anti-piracy police.

In an effort to help stamp out pesky Swedish pirates, FBI agent Andrew Myers and the MPAA have given a group of six Swedish police officers extensive training on how to effectively combat piracy and catch people who engage in illegal downloading from the internet.

For those of you who are unaware of whom Agent Myers is, as was I, he is noted for having spoken on a E3 Panel back on May 11th oflast year. The topic was "Game Piracy: Protecting Your Product."


Andrew Myers, FBI, agreed that with things like BitTorrent files released to the net, it's often ripped before it's leaked, by employees with a little money dangled in front of their faces. "You can't stop piracy, but you can go after some of the sources, then report to the company about the nature of their leak, and how they can do better in the future."


Just the kind of govt. agent the MPAA was lookign for I'm sure.
Together, Agent Myers and the MPAA's instruction to this new Swedish anti-piracy unit ranged from rules and regulations governing copyright enforcement and piracy, to examples of anti-piracy initiatives in other countries that have already proven effective. The most shocking revelation is a report of a lecture given by the MPAA in which officers were shown the ins and outs of movie camcording, or "CAM-ing."
When the police were asked about possible conflict of interest by having a private interest group such as the MPAA involved in the training of enforcement personnel, they apparently saw none.

"I have full confidence in the organizer of the course," noted the head of studies at the Swedish National Police Academy, Marianne Hilton. "We have contacts with organizations outside the police. If we have made the judgment that if a group has competence that we can use, then we invite them in."

Interestingly enough, when asked if there were other cases in which an industry group was invited to give training on how to enforce their agenda she was unable to provide one.

Sweden’s Pirate Party, which campaigns for copyrighted material to be free for everyone, noted that the MPAA should not be able to get involved in its country’s justice system, ”just to protect their old, lucrative monopoly."

The Pirate Party was not invited to provide a counterbalance at the training seminar. These new "super 6" will soon deal will the majority of the Swedish police's investigations about copyright rules and piracy and are expected to hit the internet "streets" at any time.

What strikes me as odd however is why this training is needed all of a sudden and why is the US govt and a US based lobbying organization involved in the training of a foreign governments police force at all?

Is piracy so difficult to determine in Sweden that it requires so embody else to tell them it what it is and where it can be found?

The last time I checked it was right in front of their noses at a place called The Pirate Bay, so does this mean they don't care about this site and are focusing elsewhere like on the small-time Direct Connect guys who swap an album every now and then?

Once again we see the US doing everything in its power to back up the demands of Big Business, it happened before with the WTO talks in Russia, and it looks as though it's happening once again.

I bet the Swedish people are going to love to find out that the US govt and a US-based corporate interest lobbying group now have a hand in training their police personnel. So much for the notion of national sovereignty.
http://www.zeropaid.com/news/8428/US+trains+new+ELITE+Swedish+anti-piracy+police+force