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MonkeyLibFront
02-02-2007, 10:47 AM
The Ministry of Defence (MoD) has failed to provide an inquest with a recording of a "friendly fire" incident in which a British soldier died. Oxfordshire Assistant Deputy Coroner Andrew Walker had criticised the MoD for delays and gave officials until Friday to produce the tape.
But the MoD said authorisation from the United States was needed to hand over the video. The case was adjourned.
Lance Corporal of Horse Matty Hull, 25, from Berks, died in March 2003.
The cockpit video was taken as a US aircraft opened fire on British troops. he coroner has adjourned the court until 16 February in order for the MoD to release the classified video.
The BBC has learned that the video was only given to the coroner this week, but clearance is required for the tape to be shown.
The barrister for the MoD said it had not been possible to get permission from the Americans to lift its classified status.
L/CoH Hull's widow, Susan Hull, told BBC News she was "very disappointed but not particularly surprised" by the decision.
Mr Walker said he was sorry his request had not been met. It was vital all evidence was reviewed fully, fairly and fearlessly, and it was crucial the court saw the video before he took more evidence from witnesses.
MoD lawyer Leigh-Ann Mulcahy, said high-level diplomacy between US and UK governments was needed to release the classified recording.

No evidence claim
In a statement the ministry said: "[The] MoD respects the fact that this classified information belongs to the US, in the same way as the US respects our ownership of sensitive information we provide them with.
"Nonetheless, we are in discussions with our allies in the US about how we can, jointly, move this situation forward.
"Everyone understands the concerns of L/CoH Hull's family, and of the coroner himself in this matter."
The MoD was further criticised by L/CoH Hull's family who had previously been told "categorically" there was no such video evidence.
L/CoH Hull, from the Windsor-based Household Cavalry Regiment, died from multiple injuries inside his blazing Scimitar tank despite efforts by colleagues to save him.
He was travelling in a column of light armoured vehicles near Basra, in southern Iraq, when it was reportedly attacked by a US A-10 "tankbuster" aircraft.


I'd really like to know what was so classified about A-10's straffing british troops especially when the pilot had no authorisation to fire and the brits let off signal smoke.

DeadMeatXM2
02-02-2007, 12:20 PM
I'd really like to know what was so classified about A-10's straffing british troops especially when the pilot had no authorisation to fire and the brits let off signal smoke.

Thats exactly whats so classified about it. If it was A10's strafing a (I'll use "terrorist" as a generic term to cover all current enemy combatants in all current Areas of Operations) terrorist convoy, needless to say it would be all over the news. Since it is a Blue on Blue event, they want to save face by denying it ever happened. If the material is classified and cant be viewed by anyone outside the high-level Mil circles then they retain a level of deniability.

MonkeyLibFront
02-02-2007, 01:00 PM
Thats exactly whats so classified about it. If it was A10's strafing a (I'll use "terrorist" as a generic term to cover all current enemy combatants in all current Areas of Operations) terrorist convoy, needless to say it would be all over the news. Since it is a Blue on Blue event, they want to save face by denying it ever happened. If the material is classified and cant be viewed by anyone outside the high-level Mil circles then they retain a level of deniability.

I was being sarcastic about, but from whats been said at the inquest he popped the smoke that denotes friendly along with the pilot not being given actual permission to fire. The coroner has viewed the tape but says that it is a vital piece of evidence that needs to be shown.

mailmannz
02-04-2007, 02:02 PM
Since it is a Blue on Blue event, they want to save face by denying it ever happened.

No one is denying it ever happened. I dont see the point in releasing the tape as it will bring nothing new to the table AND only be used as propoganda by the "anti-american" lobby (for want of a better word).

Mailman

Firetxmi
02-04-2007, 02:24 PM
I can't even begin to count how many videos I have seen on the net of a gunship or other craft killing the enemies.

Apparently, Mailman, it does bring some new stuff to the table if the coroner believes that it "is a vital piece of evidence."

If I was killed by friendly fire I would want someone from my government to be able to review it.

Oneto15
02-04-2007, 02:31 PM
See this thread also...

http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/showthread.php?t=103967