"Precision rifle" in 7.62x39?

[BronzeBow]

This may sound like a really unusual question, but are you familiar with any “precision rifles” in 7.62x39? (Basically, any rifle that achieves the maximum accuracy capable with that round.) Vepr is the only rifle maker that I'm aware of with relative accuracy in that chambering. Thanks for any help!

[Indiana Jones]

CZ 527...according to your definition. Fine piece.

[BronzeBow]

Thanks bro.

[TacoDelRio]

CZ 527...according to your definition. Fine piece.

I second that. With a set trigger and overall excellent fit and finish, it's the way to go.

[maw]

i have one. i got it in a hs-precision synthetic stock.it has a short mauser action. good stick. i'm this >.< close to sending it off for a 6.5 grendal conversion tho.

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[Hollis]

i have one. i got it in a hs-precision synthetic stock.it has a short mauser action. good stick. i'm this >.< close to sending it off for a 6.5 grendal conversion tho.


My thoughts are; two rifles are better than one. A conversion could cost close to the price of the rifle. What would you gain? would it be that big of difference. 7.62 x 39 is very popular, ergo cheaper to shoot.

[maw]

My thoughts are; two rifles are better than one. A conversion could cost close to the price of the rifle. What would you gain? would it be that big of difference. 7.62 x 39 is very popular, ergo cheaper to shoot.

i've been wanting to play around with that cartridge for a while. the brockman conversion would give me 1200 yard range and 0.5 moa out of a light weight bolt gun. something new to try.

i'd like to get an elk gun in anticipation of the tags that they said they might issue here in nc for our growing elk population. probably .300 wsm but the little 6.5mm grendel intrigues me.

[Hollis]

I would not take everything they are pitching the grendal will do. I would think it would be anemic for elk at range. We have Roosevelt Elk here and they get up to 1000 pounds, and range can very close, to too far. In heavy bush I use a Marlin guide in 45/70 group II loads. I would at least favor the 300 WSM over the grendal for elk.. My other elk rifles are .338 win mag and 300 Rem Ultra mag.

Now I would not mind owning a grendal in a AR configuration to play with. I would not mind having a stoner SR25 either. Gut feeling is that 135 grainer... is too light at any range.

We did a thousand meter shoot several years ago. we even tried a AK47... Funny it reached out there, but as to what effectiveness, well accuracy was, you would not want to be in the impact area. Power, very questionable.

[Indiana Jones]

We have Roosevelt Elk here and they get up to 1000 pounds, and range can very close, to too far. In heavy bush I use a Marlin guide in 45/70 group II loads.
To what pressure and/or energy levels are you allowed to load it in the USA ? I thought you had somewhat strict restrictions, and that the .444 and .450 Marlin were introduced specifically to adress that problem ?

[maw]

what i think i really want is a bolt gun in 6.5-284, this would be a stop gap. imho, the 6.5 bullet is a very potent bullet, folks have nailed plenty of elk with it. personally i think people get too caught up on power. i see a lot of hunters packing .300wm, .338, etc these days. i'm sure you've heard it before but in my experience shot placement is almost everything and those big cartridges in my experience affect accuracy due to flinch. i know guys who've dropped elk with .357 out of a 10" contender. because of its penetration 6.5 has even been used to drop pachyderms.
http://www.chuckhawks.com/6-5mm_rifle_cartridges.htm

it's not a wonder bullet its just that i don't see the need for 7mm for whitetail or antelope. i want to try a lightweight rifle with a short action that shoots out some variation of 6.5. having said that, for elk i'd feel most comfortable shooting my .308 or depending on the size of the animals even the .350rm.


I would not take everything they are pitching the grendal will do. I would think it would be anemic for elk at range. We have Roosevelt Elk here and they get up to 1000 pounds, and range can very close, to too far. In heavy bush I use a Marlin guide in 45/70 group II loads. I would at least favor the 300 WSM over the grendal for elk.. My other elk rifles are .338 win mag and 300 Rem Ultra mag.

Now I would not mind owning a grendal in a AR configuration to play with. I would not mind having a stoner SR25 either. Gut feeling is that 135 grainer... is too light at any range.

We did a thousand meter shoot several years ago. we even tried a AK47... Funny it reached out there, but as to what effectiveness, well accuracy was, you would not want to be in the impact area. Power, very questionable.

[Hollis]

To what pressure and/or energy levels are you allowed to load it in the USA ? I thought you had somewhat strict restrictions, and that the .444 and .450 Marlin were introduced specifically to adress that problem ?

On the 45/70, the reason for the .450 Marlin is not because of the 45/70 being anemic, it is because of the old trap door Springfield out there, a Group I Load firearm will come unglued if a group III load is fired in it. 45/70 in a group load is about 500FPS slower than a 458 Win mag. Only fire arm to shoot that is a Ruger No.1. Group II are for Marlin Lever actions.

Factory loads are Group I. I have not seen Group II or III loads available.

45/70 Group II is hotter than a 444 Marlin ( a very favorite round of mine )