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RR07
02-15-2007, 10:36 AM
First time post here.
Found this video of the CF Patrol Pathfinder course on youtube.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4eajlYRRSM4

Hope its not a repost.
DnA
02-15-2007, 11:07 AM
Good stuff
frist one
02-15-2007, 11:28 AM
Good Video.
Pete031
02-15-2007, 01:57 PM
ha.... A lot of familiar faces in that video....
Sabre
02-15-2007, 02:02 PM
September, eh.......? p-)
rjbhutton
02-15-2007, 02:04 PM
Sweet. A little info on the Cdn Pathfinders? Are they similar to US Army Rangers? UK Para Regt "pathfinders" (I forget if that's their name).

What is their parent unit, if any? How big are they? Are their helos organic? Do they all train for airborne and water insertion, or do they have a "boat troop" "air troop" kinda organization?

thanks in advance.
Ravage
02-15-2007, 02:22 PM
http://www.youtube.com/v/4eajlYRRSM4

fixed
Vostok
02-15-2007, 03:03 PM
excellent vid, thanks for posting
Koskela
02-15-2007, 05:24 PM
@Vostok
I saw your avatar. Are you a Kj?

/K
Pete031
02-15-2007, 06:01 PM
Sweet. A little info on the Cdn Pathfinders? Are they similar to US Army Rangers? UK Para Regt "pathfinders" (I forget if that's their name).

What is their parent unit, if any? How big are they? Are their helos organic? Do they all train for airborne and water insertion, or do they have a "boat troop" "air troop" kinda organization?

thanks in advance.

Well. They are what is in a sense left over from the Canadian Airborne Regiment. There is no Pathfinder unit in Canada. There is the school and they are employed within the Battalions and especially the Jump Companys.
They are similar to the Brit Paras Pathfinders. It is a brutal course, very hard physically and mentally.
Bandit
02-15-2007, 06:52 PM
Frickin' awesome video. Thanks.
rjbhutton
02-15-2007, 07:05 PM
Well. They are what is in a sense left over from the Canadian Airborne Regiment. There is no Pathfinder unit in Canada. There is the school and they are employed within the Battalions and especially the Jump Companys.
They are similar to the Brit Paras Pathfinders. It is a brutal course, very hard physically and mentally.

So they are sent back tho their parent units and act like scouts/recce for their unit? Like a Company scout? battalion? I'm a bit confused now... it looked like they were operating in larg-ish units in the vid, but maybe that was just the training... anyone enlighten me?
RR07
02-15-2007, 07:07 PM
Glad you guys liked the video. I, too, know several of the guys in the video.
Kilkenny
02-15-2007, 07:22 PM
There is a good piece on them on the show, (Truth, Duty, Valour).
Pete031
02-15-2007, 09:14 PM
So they are sent back tho their parent units and act like scouts/recce for their unit? Like a Company scout? battalion? I'm a bit confused now... it looked like they were operating in larg-ish units in the vid, but maybe that was just the training... anyone enlighten me?

Ok,
Back when we had the Canadian Airborne Regiment... The Pathfinders would jump in early. Set up the DZ, they would also move to whatever objective the main force was going to and set up the Objective rendez vous, the waiting areas, the Line of departure and the attack line. They would have up to date, real time intelligence on the objective and the enemy.
Much like what Recce, or scouts as you called them do for non jump units.
THe thing about Pathfinders, is they are often dropped in by Halo, sub, whatever, in the middle of enemy territory, before the main body comes. WHere as Recce will do the same but the will use different insertion methods and usually start from friendly lines and move toward the objective, instead of parachuting into it.
Basically the Pathfiders are Recce patrolman on steroids. At the moment, in the conventional army, there is no organized pathfinder platoon anymore. However some of the Recce platoons have Pathfinders in them.
It is just a useful and great course to have.
bigjeff
02-16-2007, 02:32 AM
Thank you very much for the vid,Canadian forces vid is always my favourite.
frist one
02-16-2007, 07:05 AM
We Should Have A Pathfinder Platoon. We Got JTF2 In CSOR .There IS Room For A Pathfinder Platoon. A Platoon Is Only 30 to 40 Men.
Dominique
02-16-2007, 08:15 AM
While this is a little off topic, anyone know the status of the proposed new Airborne Regiment (becuase we all know that nasty ole CAR won't be coming back).
Vostok
02-16-2007, 10:51 AM
@Vostok
I saw your avatar. Are you a Kj?

/K

Nope, just thought the cap brass was bad ass
frist one
02-16-2007, 12:26 PM
Has anyone got photos.Of Canadian pathfinders.
Pete031
02-16-2007, 01:16 PM
While this is a little off topic, anyone know the status of the proposed new Airborne Regiment (becuase we all know that nasty ole CAR won't be coming back).

Last int I got was that, they are making a Marine commado unit, and that will be it. Between the CSOR and the Jump Coys, that will be it for Jump capable units.