New Polish helicopter

[Musashi]

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W-3PL

http://img443.imageshack.us/img443/7030/09013mi7.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Created as effect of "Głuszec" W-3 Sokół upgrade program. New Sokół has Multi-function display (MFD) based cockpit, engines with Full Authority Digital Electronics Control (FADEC), Head-up display (HUD), forward looking infrared (FLIR) imager, new defense systems (IR countermeasure and Chaff/Flare dispenser), all new electronic system are integrated around new Mission Computer, air conditioning and composite armor for pilots cabin, new weapons: 12,7mm WKM-B machinegun in moving turret (instead of fixed 23mm canon, new Sokół can still carry 23mm gunpods on a hardpoints), new unguided rockets pods with 70mm rockets (compatible with Hydras), new ATGMs, new main rotor.

http://img443.imageshack.us/img443/6152/09011wb3.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img443.imageshack.us/img443/1694/09012eu1.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

[KillerBD]

Thats a pretty cool modification.

[Ravage]

How is it different from Sokół/Huzar it looks practicly the same...

[silveykyle]

sweet thanks

[KingoftheHill]

While I wouldn't call it a new helo.

It looks kick-ass, I understand the W-3it has only been exported to 2 countries. With those being Czech Rep. and Burma.

Not bad...for a Polish design.

[wicked_hind]

Not bad...for a Polish design.

Maybe if they market the design to some Latin American countries, they'll have even more success. I do agree with you, it's quite a nice little hoss.

[Adax]

Wow, looks great. I hope we wil produce them in big numbers.

[mack pl]

While I wouldn't call it a new helo.

yea, its only modernisation(upgrade)


I understand the W-3it has only been exported to 2 countries. With those being Czech Rep. and Burma.


civil version also to South Korea

[Dark Avenger]

How is it different from Sokół/Huzar it looks practicly the same...
An optronics turret has been fitted above the cockpit, an IRCM jammer and maybe a full protection suite added, and the fixed GSh-23L on the stbd side has been replaced by an undernose turret for the WKM-B HMG.
Why am I repeating all this? Just see the caption below the first photo...p-)

[TheSun_CZ]

I would suggest them to paint it plain green like in the first photo because that green/brown camo...well...p-)

[zapatero]

Well, at last something is going on in the "Głuszec" programm. Too bad the SW-4 won't have an armed version. Does anybody know how many machines will be modernized to the W-3PL version? O yeah, one more thing. Does the polish markings have to be so big? Is there a law that tells to paint the white and red chessboard in that size? In my opinion a much smaller marking would do the same. I like the green NATO camouflage. It's way better then the ridiculous and useless green and brown, not mention the yellow and green camouflage of the prior versions.

[KingoftheHill]

civil version also to South Korea

I see they have a fetish for eastern choppers. p-)

[perdurabo]

I saw W-3PL few days ago above Lublin i knew it is something new (optical "head" above cocpit)
W-3 serves in:
Poland -122
Czech rep. -11
Burma -10
South Korea -12 but one crashed
Spain -1
Germany -2
United Arab Emirates -1
Vietnam -?
Russia -?
Nigeria -1
(data from 2003 but no new W-3 where produced sinc then so prabably acurate)

[exarmyguard]

What is the size comparison of the W-3 to any other helicopter? Is it in the class of the old Huey or a Puma?

[Dark Avenger]

Closer to the Huey.

[Adax]

Well, at last something is going on in the "Głuszec" programm. Too bad the SW-4 won't have an armed version. Does anybody know how many machines will be modernized to the W-3PL version? O yeah, one more thing. Does the polish markings have to be so big? Is there a law that tells to paint the white and red chessboard in that size? In my opinion a much smaller marking would do the same. I like the green NATO camouflage. It's way better then the ridiculous and useless green and brown, not mention the yellow and green camouflage of the prior versions.
Yep, we should paint ALL chopters with that dark green and it would be ok. The szachownica should be low-vision for me.

[sp2c]

gunturret seems a bit underpowerd though

I'd suggest at least a 20mm cannon like the Romanian Socat's (Giat?)

[Dark Avenger]

Funny thing is that they have already tried a 20mm turret a the W-3 variant, the W-3K that incorporated South African systems.
http://img405.imageshack.us/img405/4292/7bac6.th.jpg (http://img405.imageshack.us/my.php?image=7bac6.jpg)
Source (http://peternet.livenet.pl/edu/pzl.htm)
And (@ Sp2c) yes, the IAR-330L SOCAT has a GIAT THL-20 turret with a M-621 cannon. :)

[KingoftheHill]

Here are the New Iraqi Army's W-3:

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Cheers

[wholagun]

yes, Polish law stipulates that any official emblem has to be in original colours

[Kusch]

http://www.airfoto.pl/?module=Photos&action=Single&id_ph=52127&size=2


http://images21.fotosik.pl/30/567af9ace51b6cd3.jpg

[Ravage]

When are we going to produce Blackhawks ? if we ever will...

[Cat_Behemoth]

Polska still use to copy Mi-2? :)

[perdurabo]

Polska still use to copy Mi-2? :)
license build, yes, copy no.
but PZL don't produce them anymore, upgraded version with PW engines and new nose was produced-PZL Kania- i don't know if it is still in production tough.

When are we going to produce Blackhawks ? if we ever will...
I hope we won't buy them EVER. W-3 is in same class. Produce and sell to some foregin military would be good tough.

[flex]

Here are the New Iraqi Army's W-3:

22538

22539


Cheers
Any chance to have a better resolution?

[marlowe]

Any chance to have a better resolution?

http://lotnictwo.net/foto.php?id=127847

http://lotnictwo.net/foto.php?id=127846

[corran.pl]

As it starts to be a all about W-3 Sokół thread - Hispanica de Aviacion (Spain) copters (the bigest civil user):
http://lotnictwo.net/pic/0610/0610160021.jpg
http://lotnictwo.net/pic/0610/0610160022.jpg
http://lotnictwo.net/pic/0610/0610160024.jpg
http://lotnictwo.net/pic/0610/0610160023.jpg
http://lotnictwo.net/pic/0610/0610160020.jpg
http://lotnictwo.net/pic/0610/0610160025.jpg

Before asking any stupid questions I recomens to check wikipedia:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PZL_W-3_Sokół

Few nice pictures you can also find on http://www.eliwork.it

[exarmyguard]

I hope these birds make their way to the states. Poland is such a great US ally. I hope they get to export thier helo's and they can build a modern US design.

[daily666]

Welcome back corran, nice to have you around again :hug:

[Count Lippe]

I hope these birds make their way to the states. Poland is such a great US ally. I hope they get to export thier helo's and they can build a modern US design.
A modern US design? Any examples?

[daily666]

A modern US design? Any examples?

Maybe he meant that UH-60 will be built in Poland.

[ellion 86R*]

Looks like upgrated Mi-2 to me

[daily666]

Looks like upgrated Mi-2 to me

Naaah, not really:

http://www.bredow-web.de/Berlin_Schoenefeld/Mil_Mi_2/Mil_Mi_2.JPG
http://www.airrescue.boo.pl/galeria/data/media/6/DSC02072.jpg

[Count Lippe]

Maybe he meant that UH-60 will be built in Poland.
Not really modern if you ask me... ;)

[tony6]

Little misunderstanding here: it's not NEW helicopter. It was built in the late 70s.
It's just its upgraded version.

[Ravage]

I hope we won't buy them EVER. W-3 is in same class. Produce and sell to some foregin military would be good tough.

But some would be nice, wouldn't it ?

Hi tony ! :hug:

[corran.pl]

To keep this thread alive.
http://www.lotnictwo.net/pic/0601/0601150026.jpg
http://www.lotnictwo.net/pic/0510/0510070019.jpg

[be-HIND-eyes]

First shoots of Głuszec in Flight !!!! Enjoy:)

http://video.google.pl/videoplay?docid=5737010064186921958

orhttp://video.google.pl/videoplay?docid=5737010064186921958


how to put some videos here??

http://video.google.pl/videoplay?docid=5737010064186921958

[adlep]

I remember reading about the program Huzar and the NT-D rockets in 94/95
Hence we are "only" 12 years into the program
Congratulations

[perdurabo]

But some would be nice, wouldn't it ?

Hi tony ! :hug:
BH? sold to some foreginers yes, bought for our military HELL NO!

[Silent_Hunter]

W-3PL for Indonesian Army

[Herrmannek]

Caught this on tape yesterday. I guess it fits this topic a little... air medical rescue coming for help. Landing on the top of the mountain... I was lucky :)...
http://www.youtube.com/v/hAnSmhr5FUM

[Adax]

Nice vid.
Where was it made ?

[Herrmannek]

Ślęża mountain, top of it.

[WalkerMaster]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ds8-zYVUoHg

One of the many rescue action when TOPR use "long line" techniqe.

[Switek]

http://img62.imageshack.us/img62/6210/02ta6.jpg

http://www.eprz-galeria.com.pl/a****/P1060474.jpg

http://www.eprz-galeria.com.pl/a****/P1060491.jpg