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LaoSexMachine
02-19-2007, 08:59 PM
Armies boot out Soviet tradition
By Artyom Liss
BBC News, Moscow


The post-Soviet armies of Ukraine and Belarus are set to part with one of their oldest traditions. Defence ministries in both countries are decommissioning traditional foot bindings and canvas boots.
For centuries they formed part of a soldier's standard uniform across the Russian empire.
Then the Soviet Union inherited the tradition and after its demise in 1991 many of its successor countries preserved this tradition.
Early service regulations of the Red Army even explained in great detail how to wear the boots and how to wind on the foot bindings.
For soldiers, the learning curve was steep. Alexander - who served as a tank gunner in the 1980s - says that in the first few weeks of the military service his feet were covered with bleeding wounds.
Sore feet
"You can't just stick your feet in and go off on a cross-country march" - he recalls.
"It takes a while to get used to the foot bindings and to the canvas, and then you grow enormous corns, and just don't care any longer. Your feet become so hard you can drive in nails with your toes".



It takes a while to get used [to them] and then you grow enormous corns, and just don't care any longer
Ian Leder, former Soviet infantryman
A traditional foot binding is a rectangular piece of thick cloth 35 by 90 centimetres (13.6 by 35 inches) in size. First worn with bast sandals by Russian peasants, they remained almost unchanged through the ages.

But, for all the blood, sweat and tears involved in wearing bindings, former soldiers say the thick cloth and the canvas boots were a perfect match.
Former infantryman Ian Leder described typical Soviet boots as "a tough piece of work".
"There were stitches in places where you'd least expect them. And measurements were rather vague. So the thicker the layer between your feet and your boots, the better", he says.
Cold climate
Some long-serving privates did try to switch to socks, but very soon they all went back to the foot bindings.


Advocates of the tradition say cheap and virtually indestructible boots and foot bindings suit the cold Russian climate better than the refined footwear of Western armies. And in the marshland, there is almost no danger of water making its way inside.
So, while large parts of Russia remain off-limits to anyone but the toughest, generals in Moscow do not seem prepared to move on.

Russia's neighbours face a terrain which is, arguably, less challenging.
This could, perhaps, explain their post-Soviet change in footwear priorities.
Defence chiefs in Ukraine say there is a need to maintain hygiene in the army and to make soldiers' lives more bearable.
In Ukraine, the old tradition will be phased out within a few months.
Belarus is taking things slower. There, the last pair of canvas boots and matching bindings will only be laid to rest in 2010.

Story from BBC NEWS:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/pr/fr/-/2/hi/europe/6375125.stm

http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/42587000/jpg/_42587787_boots203afp.jpg
Canvas boots have been a fixture in the Russian army for centuries

LaoSexMachine
02-19-2007, 09:29 PM
Mods, could you please move this to equipment? Seems more appropriate.


Edit. Gracias

Bombtrack
02-19-2007, 10:11 PM
That is a quite a pun.

James
02-20-2007, 04:22 AM
Those jackboots are canvas? I had no idea... I thought they were leather.

gaijinsamurai
02-20-2007, 06:40 AM
I feel bad for any soldier who has/had to wear jackboots and bindings.

GoSka37
02-20-2007, 07:11 AM
Those jackboots are canvas? I had no idea... I thought they were leather.

Shhhh... don't let them know. They don't know what Textile cloth is ;)

Herrmannek
02-20-2007, 03:46 PM
Those jackboots are canvas? I had no idea... I thought they were leather.

AFAIK they aren't, per se, shoe part is from leather, vertical tube is from leather imitation(derma), probably made on canvas base...

You can see them here, sorry its shop, but couldn't find better pics anywhere else...

http://www.tridentmilitary.com/Boots.htm

Jsjoholm
02-20-2007, 09:50 PM
http://www.tridentmilitary.com/Boots.htm


Them Trident folks seems to be running some rather interesting side business ventures aside from the usual military gearshop..
From their webpage:


TRIDENT CONNECTIONS HAS BEAUTIFUL MARRIAGE MINDED GIRLS AND WOMEN
(http://www.tridentconnections.com/)Over 20,000 Beautiful Girls and Women from Russia, Ukraine and the World want a loving and caring man!!! ASAP!!!

kosse
02-20-2007, 09:57 PM
Them Trident folks seems to be running some rather interesting side business ventures aside from the usual military gearshop..
From their webpage:


TRIDENT CONNECTIONS HAS BEAUTIFUL MARRIAGE MINDED GIRLS AND WOMEN
(http://www.tridentconnections.com/)Over 20,000 Beautiful Girls and Women from Russia, Ukraine and the World want a loving and caring man!!! ASAP!!!







You gotta admire Russian pragmatism. Boots and women from the same shop. I wonder which come as a good measure p-)

Jsjoholm
02-20-2007, 10:11 PM
They also seem to be selling a fully armored - still fully equiped russian - APC, and two fighter jets..

From their webpage, it seems to be a US company ...

TRIDENT MILITARY
2032 Broad Hill Farms Road
Moon Township, Pa 15108



I'm the phone with my credit card firm as we speak trying to up my credit to buy that APC.
so who's coming with me to pick up the APC ?
it will be a BYOAABBQM(Bring Your Own Ammo And BBQ Meat) event.
:-D