Hundreds of Parked Fighter Jets at Russian AFB

[mortthewiz]

Over 350 Parked fighters at Chebenki AFB, in Russia, this isn't very unique, due to the huge arms build up during the cold war, many Russian AFB have hundreds of fighter planes just parked and rusting.

http://www.intrepidearth.com/tour/random/022007.php?loc=022007

[Proud American]

the US has the exact same thing, air fields with thousands of fighters, bombers, helicopters, transports all sitting and rusting

[Creeper]

[quote=Proud American;2321242]the US has the exact same thing, air fields with thousands of fighters, bombers, helicopters, transports all sitting and rusting[/quote

What "thing" are you referring to? We do have a "thing" called a Airbase, where a/c/ are placed for long storage - others are reclaimed for material - etc, etc.

BTW-Metals do not rust in the desert.

[mortthewiz]

BTW-Metals do not rust in the desert.


.....yes they do......

[Creeper]

.....yes they do......

Please depict.......

[artinist]

hmm, you wont find much iron on a plane and painted aluminum will not oxidize much in dry weather.

[zulu261]

Have a look at Tucson, Arizona. The amount of jets storaged there is massive. The airfield in Russia is nothing compared to it.

Interesting, nonetheless.

[Anthony91]

the US has the exact same thing, air fields with thousands of fighters, bombers, helicopters, transports all sitting and rusting

Which probably over half of those aircraft could still be useful to our military with some proper upgrades.

BTW, anyone up for stealing some McDonnell Douglas RF-4B Phantom II's from Davis-Monthan?

[equilibrium37]

hahahahahaha. oh btw .. i saw a pic of an F-4 Phantom serving the Russian Air Force? whatsup with that mate?

[Proud American]

Have a look at Tucson, Arizona. The amount of jets storaged there is massive. The airfield in Russia is nothing compared to it.

Interesting, nonetheless.

thank you mr. core.

when I find the pics, i will post them. I haveseen airfields with 500-1900 rusting airfields here in the USA

[zulu261]

BTW, anyone up for stealing some McDonnell Douglas RF-4B Phantom II's from Davis-Monthan?

No.

According to actual Google Earth Images, there are only some C-130s and plenty of A-10s around.

[Euroamerican]

The bigger whiter ones look like Su-24s... I'm not sure about the other major type, but there are some older Sukhois in there in the middle, maybe some swing wing Fitters.

I've been looking around the maps for Russia's "AMARC", and this doesn't really look like the motherload.

Sure did like that one airfield north of Naples with all the F-104s jammed into a loose bunch near one end of the runway.

[Muphlon]

Just sitting there, rusting? Who is gonna fly that old ****.

[sferrin]

No.

According to actual Google Earth Images, there are only some C-130s and plenty of A-10s around.

Look out in the field :)

[KillerBD]

Just sitting there, rusting? Who is gonna fly that old ****.

Their probly going to be recycled and turned into scrap metal (like we do here in the U.S.) for the most part. Maybe some will be fixed up for use again, and possibly others sold to poorer 3rd world countries.

^My logical guess anyway...

[LEGEND]

Thats a Russian made plane, turn on the ignition and it will start:)

Look at russian planes still flying in Africa and other third world countries, in derilect condition but they still fly.

[sweetlax23]

does anyone have any images of the US plane graveyards??

[GDS_Starfury]

thats a whole bunch of Fencers, Floggers and a few Fitters.

[Proud American]

here is the graveyard

http://maps.google.com/maps?q=http://bbs.keyhole.com/ubb/download.php?Number=66773&t=k&om=1

http://img341.imageshack.us/img341/2294/84056b1b8590jpg890292c8qp0.jpg

[DanteXavier]

I have a question about these big fields with the used aircraft: what do they do with those? I guess it'd be fair to assume that they just sit there for good and rot, but do any of those things do anything else after they are done with airforce service?

I've seen some pics of some used F-18's, F-14's, F-16's, and A-10's just sitting at these bases, not to mention the bunch of C-141's.
Are they gonna sell any of those? Can they be sold and used again? Seems like a waste of perfectly good aircraft...

Here are some of the pics I was talking about...

http://img180.imageshack.us/img180/8427/dmc141xc1.jpg

http://img136.imageshack.us/img136/8932/dmf4mx2.jpg

http://img180.imageshack.us/img180/8021/dmf14ak3.jpg

http://img136.imageshack.us/img136/9692/dmf16ax2.jpg

They gotta be worth something, right?

[artinist]

all the planes under the white covers are prepared and maintained for a "ready to return status". they are not being parted out or anything.

[Zmey]

B-1 under white canvas is being actively scrapped - its missing pieces. F-4 is derelict. Cargo planes are scrap. Maybe F-14s and F-16s... they dont seem to be missing vital parts.

[mortthewiz]

heres the davis mountan afb aka the boneyard:

http://www.intrepidearth.com/tour/07/01/02/index.php?loc=default

[zulu261]

Look out in the field :)

thank you mr. core.

when I find the pics, i will post them. I haveseen airfields with 500-1900 rusting airfields here in the USA


Dont take it too serious, I was drunk yesterday :D


Are there any images of Russian graveyards, not only via Google Earth?

[Adax]

http://img136.imageshack.us/img136/9692/dmf16ax2.jpg
Thae should give them to some onther country e.g. Iraq or... us - Poland :D We would use them for few years and it wouldn't be waste ;)

[big_les]

They store them like that so that the old drunken cropduster pilots and the president will have something to take up against the aliens.

[Jagdtiger]

all of that quality stuff rotting away it´s a real shame

[mortthewiz]

all of that quality stuff rotting away it´s a real shame


yeah maybe they should find a nice all out war where all of those planes can be used

[zulu261]

all of that quality stuff rotting away it´s a real shame

The jets covered in white arent rotting. They have chosen Tucson because of the very low humidity, thus no oxidation. The white coat is a special material, sealing all vital areas. The jets can be put back in service within a few days.

[mortthewiz]

Thats a Russian made plane, turn on the ignition and it will start:)

Look at russian planes still flying in Africa and other third world countries, in derilect condition but they still fly.

Yup believe or not Tupolev commercial planes have never crashed as a result of mechanical failure or anyother problems with the plane, but due to pilot error or weather conditions, some planes are 30+ years old and are still flying out in africa and s. america without problem.

[[WDW]Megaraptor]

Thats a Russian made plane, turn on the ignition and it will start:)

Look at russian planes still flying in Africa and other third world countries, in derilect condition but they still fly.

Reminds me of those Northern Alliance Mi-8s in Afghanistan that were held together with duct tape and baling wire.

[LEGEND]

One of the Malev Tu-154 was going in for a landing in Greece, the crew forgot to extend landing gear, the plane landed without gear, skidded half the runaway, took off extended the gear and landed properly!

[[WDW]Megaraptor]

One of the Malev Tu-154 was going in for a landing in Greece, the crew forgot to extend landing gear, the plane landed without gear, skidded half the runaway, took off extended the gear and landed properly!

Remind me never to fly on a Russian airline...

...even if the planes work great, pilots that forget to extend landing gear are enough to scare me off.

[perdurabo]

Su-24, Su-17, MiG-21, prabably MiG23/27 also few helos like Mi6, good find!

[Gluten]

Please depict.......

dude, just because its a desert it doesn't rain..... well it does not just as much, and its like in every desert a bit damp at night and in the morning and if u leave a plane out there for a long time i can assure u it will rust.

[DanteXavier]

So, is Russia going to sell of any of those or are they just gonna wait to be scrapped?

[DanteXavier]

yeah maybe they should find a nice all out war where all of those planes can be used

Or they could just hand them over to other countries in need of new equipment.

Those are perfectly usable F-14s...

[Abolith]

Or they could just hand them over to other countries in need of new equipment.

Those are perfectly usable F-14s...

we built them and paid for them, why should we just give them away and loose a valuable resource that we could need in the future?

[[WDW]Megaraptor]

we built them and paid for them, why should we just give them away and loose a valuable resource that we could need in the future?


Maybe the new Iraqi Air Force could use them someday, along with a bunch of the F-111's and F-16s at the Boneyard. We already gave them a bunch of surplus Humvees and M113's.

[SAS73]

http://img136.imageshack.us/img136/9692/dmf16ax2.jpg
Thae should give them to some onther country e.g. Iraq or... us - Poland :D We would use them for few years and it wouldn't be waste ;)

Yeah!!! I agree may be for colombia for example:) :) :)

[[WDW]Megaraptor]

Well come to think of it I think the purpose of these being under wraps like that is so they can be pressed back into service if by a huge stroke of bad luck, WW3 breaks out. Sort of like how the Navy keeps a bunch old ships mothballed under wraps in port.

[KillerBD]

... Their was an entire show (Modern Marvels, i think) on the History channel awhile back about aircraft bone-yards. Alot of these questions were answered on that show. Or if you do some research, well I guess thats too much to ask, so I did it for you all:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aerospace_Maintenance_and_Regeneration_Center

[LEGEND]

Megaraptor;2323108']Remind me never to fly on a Russian airline...

...even if the planes work great, pilots that forget to extend landing gear are enough to scare me off.

Malev is Hungarian, but thats besides the point, all pilots make mistakes, most of the crashes are due to a pilot error. At least there were no casualties.

[DanteXavier]

we built them and paid for them, why should we just give them away and loose a valuable resource that we could need in the future?

Well, it just seemed like they weren't going to use the Tomcats or Starlifter's again. I figured that's why they started storing them like that; we don't seem to need them, and as far as their place in our military, it looks like we'll just replace them.
I mean, we did build them and pay for them, but we don't require them anymore. This seems to be why we retired all those tomcats and starlifters: we just aren't going to re-use the vast majority of them. Rather than let them sit there, sell them, make a profit, and don't let those perfectly usable airframes go to waste.p-)

[DanteXavier]

... Their was an entire show (Modern Marvels, i think) on the History channel awhile back about aircraft bone-yards. Alot of these questions were answered on that show. Or if you do some research, well I guess thats too much to ask, so I did it for you all:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aerospace_Maintenance_and_Regeneration_Center

Thanks a lot for the info, that did clear some stuff up. Anyone aware of any current offers from anybody else to purchase those used F-14s or C-141's?

[mortthewiz]

well no f-14s are gonna be sold to anyone as the parts might land up in iranian hands for their f-14 fleet.

[noname]

here is the graveyard

http://maps.google.com/maps?q=http://bbs.keyhole.com/ubb/download.php?Number=66773&t=k&om=1

http://img341.imageshack.us/img341/2294/84056b1b8590jpg890292c8qp0.jpg


BLASPHEMY!!!

[Engine Mech]

Sometimes in the bone yard you will find new aircraft. They are manufactured in blocks. The squadrons get their quota and the rest are kept as attritional airframes.Spares of the same type for when they crash some.

[nick_ua]

One of the Malev Tu-154 was going in for a landing in Greece, the crew forgot to extend landing gear, the plane landed without gear, skidded half the runaway, took off extended the gear and landed properly!
Are you sure they FORGOT
Narrative:
Because of engine problems on their Boeing 737-300 HA-LES, Tupolev 154 HA-LCR was used for Malev's regular service to Thessaloniki. Approaching Thessaloniki, the crew were told to go around because a Boeing 757 had not cleared the runway yet after landing. Unable to arrest the high descent rate, the belly touched the runway, the airframe and inboard flaps sustaining substantial damage. A safe landing was carried out, but the plane was damaged beyond economical repair.

[DanteXavier]

well no f-14s are gonna be sold to anyone as the parts might land up in iranian hands for their f-14 fleet.

Good point.

[AFCOP]

The B-1 isn't being actively scrapped. The white stuff all over it is the new sealant they are putting on all the A/C's that can be returned to flying status in a very short period of time. A large majority of the F-4's are still flyable and are being used for drones. Some of those A/C have sat for years and years and then been reconditioned for drone usage. They were using F-100 series drones up until they ran out of them less then 10 years ago so you see as long as they do very minimal maintainence on the A/C stored there they can be used again in one way or another.

And some of the 141's are being scrapped but alot are being kept ready for use in Guard and Reserve units if needed. I have a certain affection for those things, I was stationed at a MAC base in NJ for 9 years and thats all they flew. Brought a tear to my eyes seeing those birds sittin there in the boneyard......and some of them gettin cut up.........jeez i'm gettin old LOL.

[artinist]

there are some good quality arial photos of the hundreds of planes in storage here

everything from atlas rockets to F-15s

http://www.birdseyetourist.com/?p=1482#more-1482

[Lamer]

well no f-14s are gonna be sold to anyone as the parts might land up in iranian hands for their f-14 fleet.
I dont think governments care where their arms will end up as long as the first guy they sell it to isnt totaly hostile against them. After that they ussualy just don't care.

[[WDW]Megaraptor]

I dont think governments care where their arms will end up as long as the first guy they sell it to isnt totaly hostile against them. After that they ussualy just don't care.


Actually, Congress recently banned the export of F-14 parts due to the fact that Iran was getting ahold of them.

[DanteXavier]

The B-1 isn't being actively scrapped. The white stuff all over it is the new sealant they are putting on all the A/C's that can be returned to flying status in a very short period of time. A large majority of the F-4's are still flyable and are being used for drones. Some of those A/C have sat for years and years and then been reconditioned for drone usage. They were using F-100 series drones up until they ran out of them less then 10 years ago so you see as long as they do very minimal maintainence on the A/C stored there they can be used again in one way or another.


Well, it's good to know that they are not going to complete waste over there.
BTW, abou the 141's: have those hit any marketplaces yet? I'm confident that the F-4's have, but what about the C-141's?

[DanteXavier]

Megaraptor;2324990']Actually, Congress recently banned the export of F-14 parts due to the fact that Iran was getting ahold of them.

That's incredibly lame. Would any strongly trusted allies(like the UK, for example) be given an opportunity?

[[WDW]Megaraptor]

That's incredibly lame. Would any strongly trusted allies(like the UK, for example) be given an opportunity?

I don't know. What they were doing before was selling the parts off as scrap metal (I guess, unless they can be used in other types of planes) and basically, Iranian front companies were buying them and sending them to Iran.

[Gluten]

well no f-14s are gonna be sold to anyone as the parts might land up in iranian hands for their f-14 fleet.

do u really think that the US would sell military equipment to iran now?.......

[YoUeSpEa]

My GF and I were thinking about taking the kids there one of these days because we only live about an house and a half away.. My son would FREAK OUT seeing all those jets. He is 5 and wants to be a fighter pilot when he gets older. I'm 26 and I want him to do something SAFE.. LoL.. Go figure...

[YoUeSpEa]

do u really think that the US would sell military equipment to iran now?.......

What he was saying (and he had a very valid point) was that if the U.S sold the F-14's and/or parts to one of our allied countries, somehow, someway they may make it into Iranian hands.