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gulogulo
02-22-2007, 09:43 PM
Very cool bird

http://www.airforce-technology.com/projects/f-16i/images/F16i_soufa_2.jpg (http://www.airforce-technology.com/projects/f-16i/index.html#f-16i2)

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F-16I Soufa Fighter and Ground Attack Aircraft, Israel

The F-16I Soufa ("Storm") is a modified variant of the F-16D Block 50 and 52 fighter and ground attack aircraft, with the avionics and weapons systems capability modified to meet the requirements of the Israeli Air Force. Israel ordered 50 F-16I aircraft in 2001 and signed the agreement for an optional additional 52 aircraft in September 2001. The Israeli Air Force has selected the F16I in a two-seat configuration only.
The production program, Peace Marble V, is the fifth acquisition of F-16s and will increase the number of Israeli Air Force F-16 aircraft to 362, giving the IAF the largest fleet of F-16 fighters apart from the USA.
The F16I Soufa made its maiden flight in December 2003. The first two aircraft were delivered to the IAF at the Ramon Air Base, in February 2004. Deliveries will be completed at a rate of about two per month over four years, with final delivery in 2008.
There is a significant level of airframe co-production and avionics component production in Israel for the Soufa and for other variants of the F-16. IAI and Cyclone Aviation Products Ltd in Carmiel manufacture the ventral fins, rudders, horizontal stabilisers and engine access doors. The aircraft are assembled at the Lockheed Martin Aeronautics facility in Fort Worth, Texas.
F-16I SOUFA FIGHTER DESIGN

The F-16I is fitted with a pair of removable conformal fuel tanks provided by IAI. The conformal fuel tanks (CFT), holding 450 US gallons of extra fuel, are mounted on both sides of the upper fuselage. The very low drag configuration CFTs have a very small effect on the aircraft's agility, handling quality and flight limits. The use of the conformal tanks increases the aircraft's mission range and combat endurance.
The fitting of conformal tanks makes the two wing inner store stations normally used for external tanks (stations 6 and 4, each rated at 4,500lb capacity) available for weapon carriage, doubling the aircraft's air-to-ground weapons capacity.
The F16I is fitted with a dorsal avionics compartment. The first version produced with the dorsal compartment was the Israeli two-seat Block 30 F-16D aircraft, produced in the late 1980s. The large dorsal compartment extends from the rear of the cockpit to the fin and houses additional avionics systems, chaff and flare dispensers and the aircraft's in-flight refuelling receptacle.
F-16I SOUFA FIGHTER COCKPIT

The front cockpit is for the pilot and the rear cockpit is configured for the weapons systems operator or, with the change of a single switch, for a pilot instructor.
The Elbit Dash IV Display and Sight Helmet System enables the pilot to aim the weapon by looking the target. Dash IV shortens the lock-on procedure time for engagements. The helmet measures the pilot's line of sight to the target so the sensors, avionics and weapons are slaved to the target. Dash IV improves situation awareness by helping the pilots to visually detect targets at high angles off the nose of the aircraft, providing critical information in any direction the pilot looks.
The Soufa is fitted with a wide angle head up display from Elop and high definition (120ppi) 4in x 4in colour multi-function displays supplied by Astronautics C.A of Petah Tikva, Israel. Other new features include a colour moving map display, digital video recording equipment, cockpit lighting and external strip lighting compatible with night vision goggles and a high capacity data transfer set.
F-16I SOUFA FIGHTER AVIONICS

The Soufa has an advanced avionics suite including general avionics computer, colour display processors and interfaces all produced by Elbit Systems.
The communications systems include a Rafael UHF/VHF radio and an HF radio, Elta satellite communications and an IAI integrated tactical video data link.
The navigation system includes a combined ring laser gyro inertial navigation system and global positioning system (RLGINS/GPS) and a digital terrain system. Rafael developed the algorithms for the digital terrain system.
F-16I SOUFA FIGHTER WEAPON SYSTEMS

Elbit is supplying the aircraft's central mission computer, the signal processing unit for the displays and the stores management systems. RADA Electronics Industries in Netanya, Israel, and Smiths Aerospace, USA, have developed the aircraft's data acquisition system with an advanced digital data server and data recording system. Israel Military Industries supplies most of the weapons pylons and racks and the external fuel tanks.
The mission data and video is downloaded to a ground debriefing station provided by RADA. The system has potential for three-dimensional, multi-aircraft mission creation.
The Rafael Litening II targeting and navigation pod is equipped with a third generation forward looking infrared (FLIR), charge-coupled device (CCD) television, laser spot tracker and rangefinder and infrared marker. The system enables the pilot to detect, identify, acquire and track ground targets for the delivery of conventional and precision guided weapons, such as laser guided or GPS guided bombs.
The aircraft is also equipped with the Lockheed Martin LANTIRN navigation pod which provides night navigation and all-weather automatic terrain following.
F-16I SOUFA FIGHTER AIR-TO-AIR MISSILES

The air-to-air missiles will be the short range Python 4 and Python 5 and the short range to beyond visual range radar-guided Derby, both supplied by Rafael.
The all-weather Derby has an active radar seeker, look down / shoot down capability, lock on before or after launch, and programmable electronic counter countermeasures (ECCM). The lock on before launch mode is deployed for tight dogfights.
The F16I will be equipped with the Rafael Python 5 air-to-air missile when development has been completed. The Python 5 is capable of lock on after launch and uses imaging infrared guidance. The new seeker uses a dual wavelength focal plane array and is equipped with robust infrared counter countermeasures capability.
F-16I SOUFA FIGHTER AIR-TO-GROUND SYSTEMS

The air-to-surface weapons are carried on the two pairs of inboard underwing stations and include anti-ship missiles, anti-radiation missiles, laser guided bombs, GPS guided bombs and Israeli Military Industries (IMI) runway attack munitions. The F-16 aircraft has been used in carriage trials of IMI's STAR-1 anti-radiation weapon which is in the development phase.
F-16I SOUFA FIGHTER COUNTERMEASURES

The electronic warfare suite, being supplied by Elisra, includes radar warning receivers, missile approach warners and jamming systems, including the Elisra SPS 3000 self-protection jammer which is installed in the large spine. The chaff and flare dispenser is supplied by Rokar.
F-16I SOUFA FIGHTER RADAR

The aircraft has the Northrop Grumman AN/APG-68(V)9 multi-mode radar, which has five times the processing speed and ten times the memory capacity of the previous APG-68 radars on the F-16. Elta is involved in the co-production of the radar.
The modes of operation include high resolution synthetic aperture (SAR) ground mapping and terrain following. The radar provides autonomous, all-weather, stand-off precision weapon delivery. Air-to-air modes include range while search, air combat mode, multiple target track while scan, cluster resolution, single target tracking and target illumination pulse Doppler tracking. The radar increases the air-to-air detection range by 30% compared to earlier generation systems.
F-16I SOUFA FIGHTER ENGINES

The Soufa is powered by the Pratt and Whitney F100-PW-229 Increased Performance Engine (IPE). This new, more powerful engine allows the aircraft a maximum take-off weight of 23,582kg. The aircraft is also fitted with heavyweight landing gear.

gulogulo
02-22-2007, 09:50 PM
http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/israel/images/f-16i-13.jpg

http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/israel/images/f-16i-12.jpg

http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/israel/images/f-16i-14.jpg

gulogulo
02-22-2007, 09:55 PM
http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/israel/images/f-16i-11.jpg

http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/israel/images/f-16i-17.jpg

http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/israel/images/f-16i-6.jpg

http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/israel/images/f-16i-4.jpg

3rdMillhouse
02-22-2007, 09:58 PM
Isreal has done a great job with F16.

Kilgor
02-22-2007, 10:00 PM
whats the range?

KillerBD
02-22-2007, 10:03 PM
They should develope thrust vectoring engine nozzles for it, like the Su-35, except this is a single engine jet.

gulogulo
02-22-2007, 10:06 PM
SpecificationsWeight12.8 Tons (Empty)
23.5 Tons (Maximum)
DimensionsLength: 48' 10" (14.93 M)
Wingspan: 31' 0" (9.45 M)
Height: 16' 8" (5.1 M)
PropulsionPratt & Whitney F100-PW-229
Thrust to Weigh Ratio: 8:1
PerformanceHigh Altitude: Over Mach 2
Low Altitude: 1440 KPH
Radius of Action: 2100 km

http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/ops/images/swa-map1-s.gif (http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/ops/images/swa-map1.gif)

3rdMillhouse
02-22-2007, 10:09 PM
They should develope thrust vectoring engine nozzles for it, like the Su-35, except this is a single engine jet.


Can it be done? I, mean, by adapting a currently existing engine? Or would it be necessary to build a new engine from the scratch?

Oscar panzer
02-22-2007, 10:12 PM
F-16 series is one of the world classic planes after WW2

JoaMei
02-22-2007, 10:18 PM
The pod on the right side (left side of the Plane) is a Radar Jammer? Or is it a FLIR?

http://www.airforce-technology.com/projects/f-16i/images/F16i_soufa_6.jpg

gulogulo
02-22-2007, 10:24 PM
http://www.israeli-weapons.com/weapons/aircraft/f-16i/f-16I_s.jpg
A: Conformal Fuel Tanks

The most distinguishing external feature of an Advanced Block 50/52, when installed, is a set of conformal fuel tanks attached to the upper fuselage. All of these latest F-16s have structural, plumbing, and wiring provisions for the conformal tanks. The tank set holds 450 gallons (more than 3,000 pounds) of additional JP-5/8. The extra fuel increases range, loiter time, and combat persistence as well as reduces the demand for tanker support. Range increase is on the order of twenty to forty percent, depending on the stores configuration and mission profile.
The conformals, which can be used in lieu of wing tanks, free the inner wing store stations and can double the primary air-to-ground payload. The tanks have an imperceptible effect on the F-16's agility, handling qualities, flight limits, and signature. Moreover, the tanks do not interfere with daily inspections and servicing, and the impact on maintenance access is minimal. A complete set can be removed or replaced in two hours by a small crew and a hoist.

B: 600-Gallon Wing Tanks

The Advanced Block 50/52 variant is certified to carry the 600-gallon wing fuel tanks. These tanks increase range or persistence up to thirty percent over the standard 370-gallon wing tanks. The tanks are mounted on non-jettisonable pylons that can also carry the more common 370-gallon tanks.
C: Landing Gear
The Advanced Block 50/52 versions have heavy-weight landing gear designed for up to 52,000 pounds maximum takeoff gross weight.

D: Radar
Northrop Grumman's AN/APG-68(V)9 multimode radar will enable crews to detect airborne threats from a range 30% greater than the existing APG-69 system and adds a synthetic-aperture radar mode for high-resolution ground mapping.


A major enhancement is the Northrop Grumman 600-gallon wing fuel tanks multimode radar, one of the most advanced radars in the skies today. This radar has more than fivefold faster processing speed and tenfold greater memory capacity over the previous APG-68(V)7/8 radar. The new processors have even higher growth potential.

A high-resolution synthetic aperture radar mode allows the pilot to locate and recognize tactical ground targets from considerable distances. In conjunction with inertially aided weapons, such as GBU-31 Joint Direct Attack Munition, the AGM-154 Joint Standoff Weapon, and CBU-103/104/105 Wind Corrected Munitions Dispenser, the F-16 gains an enhanced capability for all-weather precision strike from standoff distances. The radar features an inertial measurement unit that improves dynamic tracking performance and provides an auto-boresight capability, which increases accuracy and eliminates the need for time-consuming mechanical boresighting.
Air-to-air improvements in-clude a thirty percent increase in detection range and improvements in functionality and tracking quality in various modes.
Radar reliability is increased by fifty percent to nearly 400 hours mean time between failures. Commercial off-the-shelf technology is expected to improve supportability significantly. Using off-the-shelf technology resolves existing issues with availability and cost of spare parts and also makes technology refreshes more affordable.


E: Targeting System
The Advanced Block 50/52 can employ the latest generation targeting systems, such as the Lockheed Martin Sniper XR/Pantera targeting pod that is mounted on the right inlet sensor station. In conjunction with laser-guided bombs, the pod provides day/night precision strikes from high altitudes. Among other uses, the targeting systems can be used for seeker cueing of a variety of guided weapons and covert air-to-air operations.




F: Navigation and Reconnaissance Pods

A navigation pod, such as LANTIRN/Pathfinder, can be fitted to the left inlet sensor station. A variety of reconnaissance pods can be carried on the centerline fuselage station.
G: Cockpit
The Advanced Block 50/52 cockpit features a helmet-mounted cueing system, color multifunction displays and recording equipment, cockpit lighting and external strip lighting compatible with night vision goggles, and large-capacity data transfer sets. A choice of helmet-mounted cueing systems is available. These systems allow a pilot to direct sensors or weapons to his line of sight or to help him find a designated target. The helmet display also provides critical flight and target information to the pilot — similar to a head-up display, but in any direction the pilot looks.

H: Dorsal Avionics Compartment
All two-seat models of the Advanced Block 50/52 have a distinctive dorsal avionics compartment that allows these aircraft to accommodate all of the systems of the single-seat model as well as some special mission equipment and additional chaff/flare dispensers. The rear cockpit can be configured for either a weapon system operator or an instructor pilot and can be converted with a single switch in the cockpit.
I: Engines
The Advanced Block 50/52 aircraft have a common engine bay that allows customers a choice of engines in the 29,000-pound thrust class. The Block 50s are powered by the General Electric F110-GE-129 and have the Modular Common Inlet Duct (known as the large mouth inlet). The Block 52s are powered by the Pratt & Whitney F100-PW-229 and have a Normal Shock Inlet (known as the small mouth inlet).
http://www.israeli-weapons.com/weapons/aircraft/f-16i/f-16I_e0.jpg

gulogulo
02-22-2007, 10:33 PM
http://www.israeli-weapons.com/weapons/aircraft/f-16i/f-16I_.jpg

http://www.israeli-weapons.com/weapons/aircraft/f-16i/f-16I_7.jpg

http://www.israeli-weapons.com/weapons/aircraft/f-16i/f-16I_5.jpg

http://www.israeli-weapons.com/weapons/aircraft/f-16i/f-16I_15.jpg

http://www.israeli-weapons.com/weapons/aircraft/f-16i/f-16i_4.jpg

Heron
02-22-2007, 11:52 PM
great posts gulogulo!

thx :)

imohammed2
02-23-2007, 12:27 AM
hey, since this is an f-16 related post, i want to pose a question to you guys......why do I keep reading that the
f-16 is not a better fighter than the f-15??

for example, on one thread, i read that the f-35 is inferior to the f-22 because the f-35 will replace the f-16 and a-10, and the f-22 the f-15....

DE_Six
02-23-2007, 12:40 AM
Can it be done? I, mean, by adapting a currently existing engine? Or would it be necessary to build a new engine from the scratch?

Actually, it was done. General Electric developed the AVEN nozzle, which was supposed to be offered to Block 60 customers. I don't know if any requested it, or if it ever went beyond prototype stage.

Some details here:

http://www.f-16.net/f-16_versions_article19.html

LazerLordz
02-23-2007, 12:59 AM
Similar to the RSAF's F-16D Blk52+.

Elisra PAWS EW defensive suite too, in the dorsal spine amongst other things.

MPNFL
02-23-2007, 04:14 AM
i love the F-16I, probably the best F-16 built

Sc!zO
02-23-2007, 04:46 AM
wow quite impressive!

Ren987
02-23-2007, 05:13 AM
Any ideas why UAE is the sole operator of f-16 block 60 (maybe the cost per aircraft)? The F-16 block 60 is considered superior to its block 52+ variant because they are fitted with the AN/APG-80 AESA radar and a slighty more powerful engine.

(http://www.raytheon.com/products/apg79aesa/)

Creeper
02-23-2007, 05:32 AM
They should develope thrust vectoring engine nozzles for it, like the Su-35, except this is a single engine jet.

IMO, it will not have TVENs due due to the flight constraints of the: airframe, configurations of external stores/hradpoints, flt. computers and the overall mission (purposed) of the a/c.

Nice thinking but no.

However, take a blk 15 a/c , put a GE 220 in it and a TVN at the end, it may rival any Russian/Euro fighter.

The Israeli a/c, possibly, has maxed the design and configuration limits. If you knew how thin the ribs and spars are underneath the skin,, you will scratch your head!

IsraDani
02-23-2007, 06:09 AM
hey, since this is an f-16 related post, i want to pose a question to you guys......why do I keep reading that the
f-16 is not a better fighter than the f-15??


F-16I is intended for ground strikes rather than AA engagements.
And Btw no, the F-15 bornt as total air superiority fighter so it's better than any F-16 in that role.
The F-22 is the F-15 natural substitute.

ya2
02-23-2007, 06:24 AM
Any ideas why UAE is the sole operator of f-16 block 60 (maybe the cost per aircraft)? The F-16 block 60 is considered superior to its block 52+ variant because they are fitted with the AN/APG-80 AESA radar and a slighty more powerful engine.

(http://www.raytheon.com/products/apg79aesa/)

they dont have some of the tech israel uses for it's f-16is.... which are better than american's

HEAT
02-23-2007, 07:19 AM
We have 52+ but i thing that you made a new aircraft!
Nice job.:)


http://media.militaryphotos.net/photos/albums/Wallpapers-more-From-HEAT/abf.sized.jpg

All here (http://media.militaryphotos.net/photos/Wallpapers-more-From-HEAT)

Frutzel
02-23-2007, 07:26 AM
damn....that thing looks awesome!!! very sexy machine......almost better than F-15 :)

Ren987
02-23-2007, 07:56 AM
they dont have some of the tech israel uses for it's f-16is.... which are better than american's

True. Nevertheless, the IAF wanted to fit the indigenous Elta EL/M 2032 radar into the Sufa (originally developed for the Lavi) but it wasn't selected due to financial and political strife with the US... (Source (http://www.defense-update.com/products/a/apg68-v-9.htm))
A pity that these radars (and the new EL/M 2052 AESA) are enjoyed only by export customers and not by the IAF itself... Israel deserves the best against its enemies.


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Ren987
02-23-2007, 08:17 AM
One of the best pic of the sufa posted so far...

http://img177.imageshack.us/img177/9868/11622663c27d7bp2.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Player
02-23-2007, 08:26 AM
http://i5.pbase.com/o4/27/134727/1/62926667.jXErJxlR.IMG_4537_F.JPG

http://i5.pbase.com/o4/27/134727/1/62905677.bF8J28MU.IMG_4612a_F.JPG

http://k43.pbase.com/o4/27/134727/1/63114805.PxFSSMeK.IMG_4468_F.JPG

http://k43.pbase.com/o4/27/134727/1/62713352.mK0TSWOi.IMG_4417_filtered.jpg

Gluten
02-23-2007, 09:07 AM
i do not like the fuel tanks above the wings but other then that its cool

Frutzel
02-23-2007, 10:54 AM
http://k43.pbase.com/o4/27/134727/1/62713352.mK0TSWOi.IMG_4417_filtered.jpg

GODDAMNIT JEAH BABY!!!!

Fallen_Hero
02-23-2007, 11:35 AM
dang this jet looks fat comparing it to the F16.

gulogulo
02-23-2007, 11:38 AM
Maybe but it's a damn effective CAS maschine... Weapons,sensors,range..p-)

Groove
02-23-2007, 11:49 AM
I think its an effective bird, but its a ugly one now - at least for me.

But hey, in war its not miss Middle East competition :D

gulogulo
02-23-2007, 12:13 PM
F16D,F16I and F15I
http://k53.pbase.com/o6/27/134727/1/72681740.14md2QFL.IMG_003201.jpg (http://www.pbase.com/xnir/flight_test_center)
http://k47.pbase.com/o6/27/134727/1/72954473.WkW672fe.IMG_0044a.jpg (http://www.pbase.com/xnir/flight_test_center)
http://i5.pbase.com/o6/27/134727/1/72804817.CbrDjPZZ.IMG_000301.jpg (http://www.pbase.com/xnir/flight_test_center)
http://i5.pbase.com/o6/27/134727/1/72682178.GBl9CiwF.IMG_0043_101.jpg (http://www.pbase.com/xnir/flight_test_center)

Kaplanr
02-23-2007, 12:17 PM
I think its an effective bird, but its a ugly one now - at least for me.

But hey, in war its not miss Middle East competition :D

If it was we'd still be flying Mirage IIIs. ;)

http://dark-wraith.com/images/mirage0.png

Ren987
02-23-2007, 12:41 PM
More from the Xnir guy

http://img179.imageshack.us/img179/6988/72681730xbyru7at7216669zw4.jpg (http://imageshack.us/)
http://img179.imageshack.us/img179/6940/72681745lqij0fd3img9851pe6.jpg (http://imageshack.us/)
http://img179.imageshack.us/img179/2816/72682302fdzcwrayimg9884un7.jpg (http://imageshack.us/)
Over the Dead Sea
http://img179.imageshack.us/img179/7595/72899019iabhy4ljimg0011an8.jpg (http://imageshack.us/)
Over the Med.
http://img179.imageshack.us/img179/8834/726817343bvoi8r2img0012ay9.jpg (http://imageshack.us/)
http://img179.imageshack.us/img179/1632/72681751pgwhseaa124f744gw7.jpg (http://imageshack.us/)

Rest of the gallery at
http://www.pbase.com/xnir/israel_air_forcee.com/xnir/flight_test_center

Ren987
02-23-2007, 01:01 PM
http://img185.imageshack.us/img185/3497/63484871uhmzikuiimg4601fy6.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img185.imageshack.us/img185/6269/63091513urwzsqtm1441ae2iw6.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

gulogulo
02-23-2007, 01:23 PM
http://img185.imageshack.us/img185/3497/63484871uhmzikuiimg4601fy6.jpg (http://imageshack.us/)

COOL...woot

rjbhutton
02-23-2007, 02:18 PM
I think its an effective bird, but its a ugly one now - at least for me.

But hey, in war its not miss Middle East competition :D

The F-16 used to be a much better looking bird... smoother, without the "squared" off look which this new variant has... does anyone know how/why it has a more squared look vs. the original smooth, elegant look?

Kaplanr
02-23-2007, 04:53 PM
The F-16 used to be a much better looking bird... smoother, without the "squared" off look which this new variant has... does anyone know how/why it has a more squared look vs. the original smooth, elegant look?

Two reasons. (From Isreal-weapons.com) "Complementing the upgraded weapon systems is a dorsal compartment containing enhanced mission avionics and chaff and flare dispensers, enabling it to conduct either pilot training or combat missions. In addition, removable conformal fuel tanks (CFTs) have been added along the fuselage and above the wing roots, freeing-up underwing hard points for additional armaments. The F-16I has an unrefueled combat strike radius well in excess of 500 miles. The extended flight range allows Israeli forces to attack targets well within Iran and Libya without having to refuel. In addition, the cockpit of the F-16I has been expanded to provide for the addition of an onboard weapons officer situated behind the pilot. It has a 820 non-refueling radius of operation."

saigonsmuggler
02-23-2007, 05:09 PM
One of the best pic of the sufa posted so far...

http://img177.imageshack.us/img177/9868/11622663c27d7bp2.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
only one Sufa in the mix.... in this pic, it's the leading one.

HoboWithAK
02-23-2007, 06:39 PM
i do not like the fuel tanks above the wings but other then that its cool

Where would you put them, oh great airframe engineer?

soutikghosh
02-24-2007, 01:41 AM
http://www.adripix.com/uploads/df3d147bba.jpg (http://www.adripix.com])
http://www.adripix.com/uploads/3f8af4bbb9.jpg (http://www.adripix.com])
http://www.adripix.com/uploads/84d473e75c.jpg (http://www.adripix.com])
http://www.adripix.com/uploads/f734e0b603.jpg (http://www.adripix.com)

frenchy
03-01-2007, 07:56 AM
True. Nevertheless, the IAF wanted to fit the indigenous Elta EL/M 2032 radar into the Sufa (originally developed for the Lavi) but it wasn't selected due to financial and political strife with the US... (Source (http://www.defense-update.com/products/a/apg68-v-9.htm))
A pity that these radars (and the new EL/M 2052 AESA) are enjoyed only by export customers and not by the IAF itself... Israel deserves the best against its enemies.


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I agree with that. What a shame.:cantbeli:
But I'm sure, that in case of big war, Israel won't hesitate to put the EL/M 2052 on its planes.