Desert Auscam Uniforms

[Bootneck]

I'm trying to get some more information on the Desert Auscam uniforms that have been worn by SASR soldiers in Afghanistan. I think I've seen a couple of different versions of this uni - a 3 color version with brown and grey spots on a light tan background and a 4 color version with brown, grey and 'mint green' spots on a light tan background.

Are there different versions in use or am I just seeing uniforms in various stages of wear - maybe a bit of grunge and some fading mutes the colors?

A couple of you guys in the Aussie section really seem to be 'in the know' so I thought I'd give this question a go here.

[Chops]

Well, here's a token Aussie ex pat! The Desert AUSCAM is in fact three colour- light grey, washed out olive and muddy brown splotches over a light tan based material.

Issue begins this year with three sets to every Digger in high readiness units- 4RAR etc getting them first. CDTs and SASR are the only crews currently using.

The new deserts incorporate Australian style chest pockets but US BDU style bloused leg pockets on the trousers. Helmet covers, bush hats and pack covers will be manufactured in the new pattern but issue webbing and LBVs will remain in standard AUSCAM.

Out of interest, a new version of standard AUSCAM is being issued this year, in a greener 'tinge'- much more similar to the 1983 trial pattern. A lot of the old boy Dentists preferred the early trial pattern with many keeping the early trial sets in use until they were literally falling apart! :)

Rgds

Chops

[Bootneck]

Thanks Chops!

[BiZ]

I would like to point out that the DesAusCAm being worn in this latest deployment is the 2nd Gen style (different colours and pockets) than the previous issue worn in Afghanistan.

The 1st Gen was deemed to "light" in colour and was to be replaced by the version you see now being worn by SASR and 4RAR(Cdo).

With this new darker version ebing issued to all units within the ADF over the next 24 months AusCam will be re-issued in a darker green version, similar to the 1993 DPCU trial patterns if anyone but me remebers them?, instead of the current AuscAm that trys to do the job of both desert and bush (forest) areas in one pattern.

[Division Daguet]

I will share with everybody what I know about Desert Auscam.
I am not an expert and the observations are my own.

Some background.......

All Australian Govt issue DPCU (Disruptive Pattern Combat Uniform) material, that is standard Auscam not Auscam Nomex etc, is made out of two types of cloth.

OXFORD weave is for shirts. This has the materials weave (worp and weft) running verticle and horizontal.

TWILL weave is for Trousers. This has the materials weave running on a 45deg angle. It is of a heavier weight than Oxford. Twill is used in the trousers because trousers get heavier use.

All standard issue material is made by a Melbourne textile comapny called BRUCK. If you have a look at your 1982 Trials Auscams you will see that they are marked BRUCK. Though made by AGCF ( though more of that later in the time line ).

Over the years there has been many different Cotton / Polyester contents in the material. For example, Trials Auscams were 100% Cotton.
3rd Type Desert Auscam is 75% Cotton 25% Poly. This accounts for the many different colors in the standard Auscam, as different contents react to the dyes in differt ways.

DPCU a short time line.....
1982 Trials Auscams made by Australian Govt Clothing Factory (AGCF) in Melbourne, Victoria. Two types of material and two differnt cuts differing in Minor ways.

1988 General Issue of Auscam Begins. These are also made by AGCF.
These shirts have 2 Straight chest pockets.

1992 AGCF has become Australian Defence Indistries (ADI). These Shirts have 2 Slant Chest pockets.

Approx 1996 ADI becomes Australian Defence Apperal (ADA)

2001 Contracts are awarded to a second company to make DPCU. This compant is Can't tear 'em (CTE). Making the shirts in Melbourne and the trousers in Queensland.

2004 Both ADA and CTE are producing the every latest issue Auscam Uniforms, which a a radical departure from the older styles. This is offically version Seven of the DPCU. It has flat chest zippered pockets and sleeve pockets.

Desert Auscam DPDU ( Disruptive Pattern Desert Uniform ) a short time line......

2001 1st Issue of DPDU. It is printed in 3 colors ( Brown and Gray on a Tan Background ) with 1/3 of the normal Auscam print missing. There are many stories about this Auscam and the reason it coming into being. What I can tell you is that it was rushed into production and only issued to 1 SQD SASR going to Afghanistan. The shirt has 2 top pockets were slanted and also 2 bottom pockets.

2002 2nd Issue DPDU. This was the same cut as type 1. However the full Auscam print was used and a full 5 colours were used. The colours were :
Brown, Lime Green, Gray, Very Light Blue ( almost Gray ) on a Tan Background. This was issued to 2 SQD SASR in Afghanistan.

2003 3rd Issue DPDU. This is also in the full Auscam print with 5 colours. These colours are: Brown, Grey, Very Light Blue, Purple on a Yellow Background. The cut was changed in the shirt with the bottom pockets being ommited and placed on the sleeves. This the current type. It is made by ADA and CTE.

The types of desert Auscam can be sometimes hard to work out in pictures due to the colour fade and dirt. Some times 3 type can look like 2nd type etc.

Oh, there is one last type of Auscam that I nearly forgot to mention. Thats is the so called Enemy Auscam or Red Auscam. It it the full print with five colours, those being: Dark Brown, Mid Brown, Light Brown, Blood Red on a Tan Background. It is used to simulate enemy forces.

I hope I have cleared the issue not made it more complicated.
If anybody would like pictures of the various prints you can email me.

[RGRBOX]

Thanks for the info... got any pics...

Thanks again,

Mike B.

[Troopie]

Just in case anyone is still interested, I have set out to dispell the misinformation which has grown up around DPDUs. I have the start of a reference page describing the (As at December 2006) 3 different types of DPDU with pictures and an increasingly accurate timeline for the issues. Any feedback is welcome. http://stevoscollectables.blogspot.com/

[ArmyJonHall]

Out of interest, a new version of standard AUSCAM is being issued this year, in a greener 'tinge'- much more similar to the 1983 trial pattern. A lot of the old boy Dentists preferred the early trial pattern with many keeping the early trial sets in use until they were literally falling apart!

Yeah, they changed the original pattern a few times with different colour paletes. In 2001 I was given a set which was almost neon green! As it faded with washes and use, it got even worse.

Didn't know about the OPFOR cams though- i've never come across those, we always just used US 3-colour cams for our OPFOR.

[Daniel]

At least the newer style cams seem to be pretty uniform in their colour, the older style auscam seemed to come in 3 or 4 different variations in brightness etc.

[winchester_down]

here is the "red auscam" . the uniform came with a kepi hat and the pants and shirt only had one pocket each! no dout to give the opfor teams a definate disadvantagep-)

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[Daniel]

whats a kepi hat?

[digrar]

Something cav and RFSU blokes wear. It's atrocious.

http://img354.imageshack.us/img354/772/hatcurrentkepiix8.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

[LRPV]

Something cav and RFSU blokes wear. It's atrocious.

http://img354.imageshack.us/img354/772/hatcurrentkepiix8.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

*cough...bullsh1t...cough* RFSU perhaps once upon a time. On courses etc but not on operational patrols. These abominations are no longer on RFSU issue.

[digrar]

They were all the rage last time I worked with Norforce. That was last century but...:oops:

[LRPV]

They were all the rage last time I worked with Norforce. That was last century but...:oops:

Geez mate, let us forget some things in the past...:)

PS: The current 'roofing nail' bush hat is also good for non-tac stuff. For patrols the go is to cut down the brim more to older pattern giggle hat size. Less neck protection, but skin cancer risk is better than a brim that flops down in front of the eyes. On that there is a new issue of Auscam giggle hats with a sewn-in neck cloth on slow issue.

[BiZ]

The 'red' OPFOR cams were part of the 'Musorian upgrade' idea in the mid 90's... Someone got a promotion out of it no doubt...

http://img511.imageshack.us/img511/4387/muso1pv1.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img503.imageshack.us/img503/7273/muso3bt3.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

[ArmyJonHall]

PS: The current 'roofing nail' bush hat is also good for non-tac stuff. For patrols the go is to cut down the brim more to older pattern giggle hat size. Less neck protection, but skin cancer risk is better than a brim that flops down in front of the eyes. On that there is a new issue of Auscam giggle hats with a sewn-in neck cloth on slow issue.
It's also good for avoiding stoppages. When I was issued a new bush hat the size of a goddamn sombrero, the brim would fall down over the ejection port of my Steyr while firing, sometimes rebonuding the spent casings back into the port causing stoppages. The main reason I cut down my bush hat was to avoid this happening again.

I thought I did an alright job cutting it down and stitching it back together by myself-
http://www.myffonline.com/khaki/hattop.jpghttp://www.myffonline.com/khaki/hottop.jpg

Then I turned it over-
http://www.myffonline.com/khaki/hatbottom.jpg

I missed stitches, didn't keep a straight line, and in some spots, missed the brim entirely. Not to mention when I cut it down the seams on the brim aren't parallel- they're concentric, so when I cut all the way around I was nearly 50mm out of line. I had to trim the whole thing back to make it look even, making the brim much smaller than originally planned. Turned out OK though, and I think the mistakes just add character to the hat :)

[spoonkilr]

Might be a bit off topic, but what did the Army use just before DPCU was issued? Was it the 'greens' that were worn in back in the Vietnam War?

[digrar]

Yep, greens.

[kongman]

They were all the rage last time I worked with Norforce. That was last century but...:oops:

norforce dude now your showing your age ........

[kongman]

The 'red' OPFOR cams were part of the 'Musorian upgrade' idea in the mid 90's... Someone got a promotion out of it no doubt...

http://img511.imageshack.us/img511/4387/muso1pv1.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img503.imageshack.us/img503/7273/muso3bt3.jpg (http://imageshack.us)


lol....the good old muz's that bring back memories .......do the still call them musorians or whatever

[digrar]

How is Norforce showing my age?

[kongman]

How is Norforce showing my age?


isnt it called something else now ....sorry i was in a long time ago

[digrar]

Last I saw Norforce were celebrating their 25th anniversary mid last year. Haven't heard anything about a name change.

[kongman]

i get confused with all the different names they use now

[BiZ]

i get confused with all the different names they use now




25th anniversary

Confused with the names they use now?

Location: Brizvegas.

Everything makes sense now... p-)

[LRPV]

norforce dude now your showing your age ........

"...dude.." NorForce is still operational. Just a quick note to you.
Also , in the military we don't change Regimental titles like our underwear, therefore unit names tend to last longer than your body odour. Now fvck off before you get into trouble.

[ShotOver]

You guys have somthing called musorians? that have all the same gear as the Indos? I hear stories from your Exercises. We always just used "Indonesians" as OPFOR. "Reports from Ops Room, Indonesian MIGs closing. Action stations, Action stations!" close up on .50's and so forth. Then we would get smashed by Indo Missiles and have to repair ****.

[digrar]

We used to have Musurians and Kamarians, depending on the exercise.

[ShotOver]

We used to have Musurians and Kamarians, depending on the exercise.

Oh right. I only speak from what I saw being done on training grounds, digrar knows where my experience is, not on surface. So yeah.
Interestin though, how the two different services dont just use Indos.

[LRPV]

Fvck PT, ya can be a wakka! You know you're not supposed to say thre indo word....its musorian. PT TO BE PC!:)



PS: PC in this case IS NOT Patrol Commander.p-)

[ShotOver]

Fvck PT, ya can be a wakka! You know you're not supposed to say thre indo word....its musorian. PT TO BE PC!:)



PS: PC in this case IS NOT Patrol Commander.p-)

Bah, we used Indo. You Army blokes can live in Fantasy world if you like. With your Musorians. I will get used to it when I have to deal with this foe, but for now it is those indo bastards.

[BiZ]

Oh right. I only speak from what I saw being done on training grounds, digrar knows where my experience is, not on surface. So yeah.
Interestin though, how the two different services dont just use Indos.

It's only because RAN can't spell such big words..."Mu....Mus...Musss oh bugger it let's just call 'em Indons" p-)

[ShotOver]

It's only because RAN can't spell such big words..."Mu....Mus...Musss oh bugger it let's just call 'em Indons" p-)

Touche` my good man, touche`. Well played.
:)

[LRPV]

It's only because RAN can't spell such big words..."Mu....Mus...Musss oh bugger it let's just call 'em Indons" p-)

1st laugh since I logged back on...rofl

[BiZ]

Touche` my good man, touche`. Well played.
:)

..and not once did I need to resort to jokes about gold teeth, pirates or white pants.

[ShotOver]

..and not once did I need to resort to jokes about gold teeth, pirates or white pants.

Well that shows class. Do not lower yourself to such remarks.
p-) You East Coast blokes are better than that haha.

[BiZ]

Well that shows class. Do not lower yourself to such remarks.
p-) You East Coast blokes are better than that haha.

Whoever told you such lies should be ashamed of themselves...no-one would believe it for a minute...

[ShotOver]

Whoever told you such lies should be ashamed of themselves...no-one would believe it for a minute...

The pirate face was there for a reason matey :) haha

*staggers back to OT-H*

[BiZ]

The pirate face was there for a reason matey :) haha

*staggers back to OT-H*

I failed to see the little bastard...shiver me timbers...hand over ye gold teeth for it be 3am and the lowies need paying...


I must say...yet another topic derailed in a matter of posts by some of the usual suspetcs...well I never...

Quick, someone keep the thread on topic to keep it alive for another few pages...I know...I'll post a pic.

All three versions of the desert cammies in their glory.

See below Re: PT's spot (despite wearing an eye patch).

[BiZ]

Yes my 'skillz' in Paint are legendary...

[ShotOver]

1st and 3rd were the same. BiZ fixed it. Well played.

[BiZ]

1st and 3rd are the same mate.


Oh for ****s sake...copy & paste my arse...



Take 2.

http://img506.imageshack.us/img506/1568/dpdcutake2es7.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

[ShotOver]

Oh for ****s sake...copy & paste my arse...

I can't be arsed attempting to fix now...might give it a crack tomorrow.

Just thought I would use my obviously superiour vision skills and show you.

[BiZ]

Just thought I would use my obviously superiour vision skills and show you.

..and I thought you'd quote my quote...so I went and fixed it just to make you look like quite the fool...

Game, set and match I believe.

...and if not I'm taking my ball and going home as it is.

[dave81]

In the desert, the "The Australian Army" and Aussie flag patch are worn on the left shoulder, and unit patch (usually the big Kangaroo of OBG-W) is on the right.
Also, they're wearing these as an optional hat (in desert Auscam):
http://www.frillneck.com.au/

[ShotOver]

..and I thought you'd quote my quote...so I went and fixed it just to make you look like quite the fool...

Game, set and match I believe.

...and if not I'm taking my ball and going home as it is.

You dont know about the edit button eh? This conversation never happend. Haha. It now belongs to Bill Gates.

[BiZ]

In the desert, the "The Australian Army" and Aussie flag patch are worn on the left shoulder, and unit patch (usually the big Kangaroo of OBG-W) is on the right.

True, but you'll find that brassards are worn on the right shoulder...and surprise surprise...the Australian flags are on matching brassards in my pic hence why they're on the right and not left shoulders. p-)

[BiZ]

You dont know about the edit button eh? This conversation never happend. Haha. It now belongs to Bill Gates.

...all our base are belong to him?

[kamarian]

We used to have Musurians and Kamarians, depending on the exercise.

Yay! I got mentioned again!

Oh, that kamarian.

My bad.

[Opening Batsman]

Bah, we used Indo. You Army blokes can live in Fantasy world if you like. With your Musorians. I will get used to it when I have to deal with this foe, but for now it is those indo bastards.

What retard made the Musurians the Indonesians anyway? Masurian Lakes are in Poland, and the Kamarians are the ones from Indonesia.

[cbreedon]

http://www.myffonline.com/khaki/hattop.jpghttp://www.myffonline.com/khaki/hottop.jpg



What's with the paracord wrapped around the hat?

[ArmyJonHall]

It's actually a spare bootlace. Just to break up the outline a bit, and in case I need a new bootlace :) There's a definate fashion about these things within the Army.

[kongman]

"...dude.." NorForce is still operational. Just a quick note to you.
Also , in the military we don't change Regimental titles like our underwear, therefore unit names tend to last longer than your body odour. Now fvck off before you get into trouble.

PS...I'm way older than Digrar and still operational. Get some respect.


dude i just havnt herd it in a long time thats all dont have to get rude about it , i just used to know the by brigades or training group or regt's , but everything has changed so much since 95 i cant keep track

[LRPV]

dude i just havnt herd it in a long time thats all dont have to get rude about it , i just used to know the by brigades or training group or regt's , but everything has changed so much since 95 i cant keep track

Fair one, my bad...I'll have to lengthen the fuse...post has been edited in your favour.

[Chops]

I love it when you guys play nice... :)

[RFSU]

They were all the rage last time I worked with Norforce. That was last century but...:oops:

Hey! they were the style at the time ok!

[kamarian]

It's actually a spare bootlace. Just to break up the outline a bit, and in case I need a new bootlace :) There's a definate fashion about these things within the Army.

and then you have to make the hat look like a roofing nail as well.

I knew a CPL who was going to write "101 ways to wear and use your Giggle Hat".

[kongman]

Fair one, my bad...I'll have to lengthen the fuse...post has been edited in your favour.


oh its cool man as i said , there's so many friggin different names for all the units , i used to just call them by there regt

[kongman]

and then you have to make the hat look like a roofing nail as well.

I knew a CPL who was going to write "101 ways to wear and use your Giggle Hat".


i rem 1 of my instructors at kapooka put his bush hat out on the grenade range , just sat it in the middle of the range , every dam recruit tried to hit it with grenades, then 1 guy did hit it and there wasnt much left of it we had a laugh but then our intructor got angry and made us run back to the barracks

[Chops]

oh its cool man as i said , there's so many friggin different names for all the units , i used to just call them by there regt

In the Australian Army? It's very hard to remember the battalions? I call you as full of **** sunshine.

[LRPV]

Fvck there goes a waste...I made efforts to be nice to someone and now they are likely to be fvcked off! I think I'll just continue with what I know...how to be fair and just. A fair bastard and just a cvnt!p-)

[kongman]

In the Australian Army? It's very hard to remember the battalions? I call you as full of **** sunshine.


most of the units i new had short name's like 2 cav , 3 RAR , 5/7 RAR , 1 contruction , 161 recce sqd , 104 sig sqn , hq 1 bde , if i ever new all the units in the army ...someone shoot me for havin no life .......and if you dont like it you know what to do

[LRPV]

...and in the far corner we have...

kongman....if I can learn to be nice you can. and thats saying something ('cause I'm a certified prick). If Chops calls you out, prove your background and get on with it. Its only a problem if you aren't what you say....

[kongman]

...and in the far corner we have...

kongman....if I can learn to be nice you can. and thats saying something ('cause I'm a certified prick). If Chops calls you out, prove your background and get on with it. Its only a problem if you aren't what you say....


how can i do that ............

[ShotOver]

how can i do that ............

Gather your credentials, names of people, maybe a service number and PM him. So he can smash it through the DRN.

[kongman]

its been over 10 yrs i cant rem half the plp i used to work with , there is only a couple that i keep in regular contact with , anyway is it really worth the effort...............

[ShotOver]

its been over 10 yrs i cant rem half the plp i used to work with , there is only a couple that i keep in regular contact with , anyway is it really worth the effort...............

Yes it is worth the effort, you have been called out.

[LRPV]

No-one forgets their service number and units. CARO; DEFAIR etc can garner the rest. It's not a problem.

[kongman]

Yes it is worth the effort, you have been called out.


thats not going to stop me posting ..............lol...who really cares i mean i dont know any of you guy personally ...so if not a big deal..lets just worry about the treads not this stupid crap

[Critter]

:backhand: Can anybody join in? or is this a private bashing???
LOL

[kongman]

No-one forgets their service number and units. CARO; DEFAIR etc can garner the rest. It's not a problem.


ohh i know my service number and the units i was in , just cant name every unit that is in the army

[LRPV]

Well its up to you to sort it with Chops. You don't slap off a mod and just keep going. I'm still new here and even this black duck knows this much. Anyway, not my business, just tryin to help if you are ex-service.

*This Callsign out*

[kongman]

Well its up to you to sort it with Chops. You don't slap off a mod and just keep going. I'm still new here and even this black duck knows this much. Anyway, not my business, just tryin to help if you are ex-service.

*This Callsign out*

i didnt have a go at him he just stepped it at started laying in for no reason ......everyone seems to do it on most forums , i dont know why ...did any of you guys serve early 90's ( ADF )

[ArmyJonHall]

i didnt have a go at him he just stepped it at started laying in for no reason ......everyone seems to do it on most forums , i dont know why ...did any of you guys serve early 90's ( ADF )
Uh oh I've seen this pattern before.... first comes the defence, then the 'it's a misunderstanding', then the 'I can't remember my details', now we're at the 'best defence is a good offence' stage.

The last two are the 'Fvck all of you guys' stage, then finally the 'Oh **** Ive been banned' stage.

[kongman]

Uh oh I've seen this pattern before.... first comes the defence, then the 'it's a misunderstanding', then the 'I can't remember my details', now we're at the 'best defence is a good offence' stage.

The last two are the 'Fvck all of you guys' stage, then finally the 'Oh **** Ive been banned' stage.


ha ha yup sounds about right , if i can find some1 who served at about the same time as i did i should be able to prove that i was in the army pretty easy , ok most of you australian guys should rem what platoon you where in when you did your basic , i was in 1 platoon the commandants platoon , every time we had to go out and we where not going to classes we had to wear those stupid dress uniforms , you know the old retarded ones , i was there (kapooka) about the same time as they did that docco about that female platoon where they followed it around for its whole basic training , i rember doing the "bear pit" and going across the dam on that rope , ha ha some guy droped his SLR in there but it was close to the edge , lucky for him it was easy to find , **** i can rem alot about my basic training , funny that you can remmber some things but not others

[California Joe]

I'd just like to state for the record that I have never been in the Australian Army. I do however have a sweet Messican 70s ****o 'tasche.

[Chops]

Speaking of which CJ- I owe you a certain shirt don't I? p-)

@ Kongman- I don't really care whether you're a walt or not to be honest. You just sound very, very much like one. Jon's post is pretty much on the money.

[kamarian]

I'd just like to state for the record that I have never been in the Australian Army. I do however have a sweet Messican 70s ****o 'tasche.


so you look like boony and merv hughes then?

[Spets06]

('cause I'm a certified prick).

You have been nothing but sweet and charming to me LRPV. Your just misunderstood by the others...they don't know the REAL LRPV.

Why exactly did Army chose to go for the new style cams the NIR(?) cams (I think, only heard they called IR cams or pocket cams) with the rankslide on the chest and new style pockets on the chest?

Is there a serious advantage over the old style?

[digrar]

CJ is a fair bit sleeker than those two living legends.

[Critter]

Hey...Leave the 80's Taches out of this!

lol

[California Joe]

Speaking of which CJ- I owe you a certain shirt don't I? p-)


I believe you do. Hope they worked to your satisfaction....:) Feel free to send me any old auscam you have laying around also. Apparently it's all the rage.

[digrar]

I've got about a dozen cam Ts still in plastic wrap.... They are built for a big rig but. p-)

[California Joe]

Are you saying they're to large for my girlish figure?

[digrar]

They could be, I've seen your tight T pics p-)

[California Joe]

I can't help being a midget.

[Chops]

Are you saying they're to large for my girlish figure?

More svelte than girlish I would say CJ...

[Chops]

I believe you do. Hope they worked to your satisfaction....:) Feel free to send me any old auscam you have laying around also. Apparently it's all the rage.

Worked very much to satisfaction. I have a Para maroon one here in XL if you're interested old boy? Old Auscam? Ditched the majority but will see what I can scare up and pop in a care package for you eh?

[kamarian]

I've got about a dozen cam Ts still in plastic wrap.... They are built for a big rig but. p-)

they might just fit me then!

[cbreedon]

I noticed both Kongman and Kamarian both are from Brissie.... Kamarian go over and talk to Kongman about his army days and report back to us.

[Troopie]

Just for the record BiZ, your post at #43 in this thread is NOT the three different types of DPDU (Disruptive Pattern Desert Uniform) if that's what you were trying to show. The top pattern is the Series 2, 5 colour worn in Afghanistan mid 2002 to late 2002 (Very short lived). The other two shirts are 1st series, 3 colour also worn in Afghanistan from first deployment to mid 2002. Series 2 was chaged to series three when Australian troops were to be commited to Iraq and the colours weren't right for the AO.
Check it all out here:

http://stevoscollectables.blogspot.com/

Also some interesting stuff on patches here:

http://stevoscollectables2.blogspot.com/

[RGRBOX]

Anyone have a link for who sells them?

Merci

RB

[XIE]

none that I have seen so far. DPDU are rare even within some units.

[Opening Batsman]

They occasionally come up on ebay and sell for ****loads, even though I'm under the impression that selling them is illegal. Looking now there isn't a lot, just a couple of random things in DPDU.

[ShotOver]

One of the yanks on this site swapped a set of his ACU's for an Australian DPDU set, then had the Australian Military Police come and investigate him and remove the items of clothing from his possession.
This was in Iraq.

[D-gin]

One of the yanks on this site swapped a set of his ACU's for an Australian DPDU set, then had the Australian Military Police come and investigate him and remove the items of clothing from his possession.
This was in Iraq.

Why exactly is the desert stuff illegal to have and not the regular Aussie camo???

Or am I mistaken.

[ShotOver]

Why exactly is the desert stuff illegal to have and not the regular Aussie camo???

Or am I mistaken.

I think because its a current operation thing, so it's still restricted to anyone not serving.

But yeah, thats only what I have been told.

[D-gin]

I think because its a current operation thing, so it's still restricted to anyone not serving.

But yeah, thats only what I have been told.

Makes sense......I could see the repercussions if some of the bad guys in Iraq and Afghanistan got there hands on it.

[Troopie]

Guys, ANYTHING once owned by the ADF (Army+) is still considered by the issuing service to belong to the Commonwealth. Technically, even DPCU is illegal, but it has been reproduced so widely it would now be hard to police. DPDU (deserts) are restricted because of the obvious need to minimize the amount in circulation so Ali Ahkba doesn't get it and pretend to be someone he's not. It wouldn't be too hard for any switched on anti Aussie group to get it printed up in Indo or China and produce what they wanted like the South African Recces used to do on a large scale. What the Government DOESN'T tell us, and more of a worry than their cover story, is the fact that all the depleted uranium in the air and dust in both Iraq and Afghanistan is far from safe levels. This crap is, no doubt, embedded to varying degrees in the issued and in-country worn DPDUs. That is why the stuff is supposed to be handed in and destroyed prior to the troops leaving for home. On the same note, what will we see our guys suffering from in a few years as all this **** starts to come out.
Has anyone seen 'Blowing in the Wind", the Australian doco which the ABC refused to show.
If anyone wants to see it, it is a must see, I'll do a copy up and send it at cost. I don't want to make money, nor do I need to be out of pocket more than I am.

[BiZ]

Just for the record BiZ, your post at #43 in this thread is NOT the three different types of DPDU (Disruptive Pattern Desert Uniform) if that's what you were trying to show. The top pattern is the Series 2, 5 colour worn in Afghanistan mid 2002 to late 2002 (Very short lived). The other two shirts are 1st series, 3 colour also worn in Afghanistan from first deployment to mid 2002. Series 2 was chaged to series three when Australian troops were to be commited to Iraq and the colours weren't right for the AO.
Check it all out here:

http://stevoscollectables.blogspot.com/

Also some interesting stuff on patches here:

http://stevoscollectables2.blogspot.com/

"Just for the record" those 3 are 3 different issues, just not in order p-) . My inferior, as PT will attest, computer and "Paint" skills only allowed me to post a crappy mish mash photo, late at night, after many beers.


Glad this thread got dug up...

[McTaz]

hi,
i'm made for australian DPDU items and i'm happy to came here with our collector or reenacter of this beuatifull pattern.

Sorry for my terrible english McTaz

[McTaz]

Guys, ANYTHING once owned by the ADF (Army+) is still considered by the issuing service to belong to the Commonwealth. Technically, even DPCU is illegal, but it has been reproduced so widely it would now be hard to police. DPDU (deserts) are restricted because of the obvious need to minimize the amount in circulation so Ali Ahkba doesn't get it and pretend to be someone he's not. It wouldn't be too hard for any switched on anti Aussie group to get it printed up in Indo or China and produce what they wanted like the South African Recces used to do on a large scale. What the Government DOESN'T tell us, and more of a worry than their cover story, is the fact that all the depleted uranium in the air and dust in both Iraq and Afghanistan is far from safe levels. This crap is, no doubt, embedded to varying degrees in the issued and in-country worn DPDUs. That is why the stuff is supposed to be handed in and destroyed prior to the troops leaving for home. On the same note, what will we see our guys suffering from in a few years as all this **** starts to come out.
Has anyone seen 'Blowing in the Wind", the Australian doco which the ABC refused to show.
If anyone wants to see it, it is a must see, I'll do a copy up and send it at cost. I don't want to make money, nor do I need to be out of pocket more than I am.

damn.... after with canadian GI items (i destroy some items or better put in garbage and sold other items of my collection) i must find to me like lair or like terrorist because i buy and collecting DPCU-DPDU items?

McTAZ

[digrar]

damn.... after with canadian GI items (i destroy some items or better put in garbage and sold other items of my collection) i must find to me like lair or like terrorist because i buy and collecting DPCU-DPDU items?

McTAZ

It wouldn't be so bad, except you dress up in it and wear rank and patches you haven't earned. :|

[Royal]

It wouldn't be so bad, except you dress up in it and wear rank and patches you haven't earned. :|

Glad you understood that mate. I must have the wrong key setting here...

[kongman]

i was chating to a guy who just got out recently and he said he ironed his cams ...........where they first came out the said not to iron them they had some special adative in the material than redused the infared signature .......and not to let them near a naked flame cause they where highly flamable ........has this changed now do they still fade really quickly aftr a few washes

[blacksheep]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v384/SORDAustralia/SORD%20System%20Photos/ERACfrontright.jpg


Hello I am looking for this pant which the soldier wears on the photo .
Does anyone knows a dealer which sells this pant?

[StuRat]

They are the standard issue Auscam pants, I'm not sure you can buy them

[LRPV]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v384/SORDAustralia/SORD%20System%20Photos/ERACfrontright.jpg


Hello I am looking for this pant which the soldier wears on the photo .
Does anyone knows a dealer which sells this pant?


Ask Chops. Godspeed.

[BiZ]

Ask Chops. Godspeed.

Or even better yet, he could have spent the time emailing SORD instead of posting here and then 'hoping' for an answer. p-)

[kongman]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v384/SORDAustralia/SORD%20System%20Photos/ERACfrontright.jpg


Hello I am looking for this pant which the soldier wears on the photo .
Does anyone knows a dealer which sells this pant?


any army disposal store should have em ..............there not hard to find.......

[blacksheep]

Or even better yet, he could have spent the time emailing SORD instead of posting here and then 'hoping' for an answer

It's been done but they also don't know where i can buy these pants.:-(

[FriFraFro]

Blood Diamond Inc., last time i checked them they were well stocked.

[StuRat]

Have a look under Australia in this thread:
http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/showthread.php?t=85737

you might get lucky

[Chops]

Ask Chops. Godspeed.

Oh thanks- the guy doesn't get sarcasm- just received a PM from blacksheep looking for these "pants". Oh dear...

Ebay- try ebay.com.au- AUSCAM. Wasn't hard was it?

[FriFraFro]

How about this one...

I read your post in the DPDU thread. You mention that Blood Diamond Inc. has AUSCAM uniforms for sale. I tried google to find their website with no luck. Do you have a website address or contact info for this company? Let me know.

Have a good one

Lol

[ShotOver]

Hahaha, yeah stear him towards the current issue DPCU pants... because the zips are awesome and don't break everytime you go bush, top quality shyte dude...

[Chops]

How about this one...

I read your post in the DPDU thread. You mention that Blood Diamond Inc. has AUSCAM uniforms for sale. I tried google to find their website with no luck. Do you have a website address or contact info for this company? Let me know.

Have a good one

Lol

You are ****ing ****ing me? Solid gold right there rofl

[T3ngu]

How about this one...

I read your post in the DPDU thread. You mention that Blood Diamond Inc. has AUSCAM uniforms for sale. I tried google to find their website with no luck. Do you have a website address or contact info for this company? Let me know.

Have a good one

Lol

Calanens great post has come home to roost.

[LRPV]

Calanens great post has come home to roost.

Calanen? You aren't short-changing Godspeed are you?:) Let's face it...his request was months ago but he's built a 'legend' p-)

[kongman]

You are ****ing ****ing me? Solid gold right there rofl

man some plp .......................how can he not get it.............

[LRPV]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v384/SORDAustralia/SORD%20System%20Photos/ERACfrontright.jpg


Hello I am looking for this pant which the soldier wears on the photo .
Does anyone knows a dealer which sells this pant?


Blacksheep...this is for you, now you'll get the joke...

http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/showthread.php?t=120810&highlight=blood+diamond

[kamarian]

Blacksheep...this is for you, now you'll get the joke...

http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/showthread.php?t=120810&highlight=blood+diamond

awww. couldn't you have let him go for another couple of pages!

[LRPV]

awww. couldn't you have let him go for another couple of pages!

Did you know the original BD thread had tears running down my cheeks? A mate in the office thought I had received bad news. I still remember Chops "Christ on a bicycle' comment...would have been great to see his expression when he realized Godspeed was serious....:)