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Ordie
02-26-2007, 03:28 PM
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Immigrant paradox

Bobbi Bowman
Monday, February 26, 2007

IF IMMIGRANTS don't pay taxes, why is one of the nation's premier accounting firms airing ads on Spanish-language radio? How is it that an immigrant U.S. Army veteran wounded in Iraq could be denied in-state college tuition or social services in the land of the free and the home of the brave? And why in God's name would there be instructions in Spanish on the back of a concrete mixer on a construction site?
These paradoxes exist because immigrants have become central to meeting our labor needs, yet some people still want to keep them on the fringes of society.
The debate over immigration is laced with myths and a failure to separate fact from fiction. It is precisely during such polarizing and emotional debate that journalists truly become the disinterested third party and the provider of accuracy and context.
Take, for instance, the notion that immigrants don't pay taxes. They do, including Social Security taxes. No wonder that Jackson-Hewitt, the multimillion-dollar tax preparation service, is advertising briskly on El Zol, the hottest of about a dozen Spanish-language radio stations in metropolitan Washington.
Jackson-Hewitt advertises to people who pay taxes. Washington's burgeoning Latino community is largely an immigrant community from El Salvador, Guatemala, Bolivia, Peru and increasingly Mexico. Jackson-Hewitt knows what most other large companies in this country know: Immigrants earn a great deal of money and they pay taxes on that money. That's why when you call the Jackson-Hewitt 800 number, you can hear information in English or en espaņol.
Some state legislators like to propose and pass laws aimed at denying everything from instate college tuition to social services to non-U.S. citizens. However, the armed forces of the United States actively recruit people that some call aliens.
That's right. You don't have to be a U.S. citizen to fight and die for this country. The U.S. Army, Navy, Air Force and Marines simply require that you are legally in the United States and that you promise to uphold, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States.
Gen. Peter Pace, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, noted last year that 200 awards or medals have gone to non-U.S. citizens in the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq, and that 101 non-U.S. citizens have died in military action since the 2001 terrorist attacks, according to a July 10, 2006 Associated Press story.
Sen. Edward Kennedy, D-Mass., at the same immigration hearing as Gen. Pace, cited statistics that showed about 24,400 non-U.S. citizens are on active duty in the armed forces.
Since the 2001 attacks, federal immigration officials have naturalized 24,745 military service members. More than 10,000 scored well enough to use their foreign-language skills in military operations, allowing for a "linguistically more competent military," said David Chu, undersecretary of defense for personnel and readiness, also quoted in the AP story.
In 2005, Sen. Barbara Mikulski, D-Md., gave a speech on the Senate floor explaining how a roadside bomb in Iraq killed U.S. Army Spc. Kendell Frederick as he traveled in a convoy to a base to get fingerprinted as part of his citizenship application. Spc. Kendell was a citizen of Trinidad.
Commercials on Spanish-language TV stations extol the virtues of U.S. Army service. The commercial I saw recently showed a young Latino proudly dressed in a crisp new U.S. Army uniform and flanked by his pride-filled mother and father.
The U.S. Army, Air Force, Navy and Marines also have Web sites in Spanish. Here's the one for the U.S. Army www.goarmy.com/SpanishChat.do (http://www.goarmy.com/SpanishChat.do)
I attended the Thunder Over Michigan Air Show outside of Detroit last July. Air shows attract hordes of young men interested in hot planes. The Air Force sent two F-16s to the Detroit show and arranged for a flyover of a B-2, the amazingly quiet, bat-winged stealth bomber.
The Air Force set up an elaborate recruiting station with video games and handed out information in English and Spanish. Yes, Spanish. And this was Michigan, where the Latino population is only about 4 percent, compared with nearly 15 percent nationwide.
Then there is the debate over English-only laws. It's so curious when state legislators propose and pass English-only laws because practically every appliance and product you pick up has bilingual instructions. Have you noticed your bag of popcorn -- the directions are in both English and Spanish?
The Sears store in Bethesda, Md., just outside of Washington, has store signs hanging from the ceiling in English and Spanish. Bethesda is one of the richest suburbs in the country. But store managers know that many of their customers also speak Spanish and they want them to be able to shop with ease. U.S. businesses know that immigrants have money to spend and they want it.
I passed a concrete mixer last week. On the back there were signs in Spanish because so many Latinos work in construction.
And yes, Spanish-language TV does brim with commercials from companies that, for a price, will teach you English. These ads always encourage folks to learn English -- in order to get a job and earn more money, and probably pay more in taxes.
Immigrants and immigration will affect every aspect of our lives -- from the food we buy in the grocery to who makes up our future workforce and who pays our Social Security. Newspapers owe it to their readers to bring more light than heat to this issue that is literally changing the face of our communities. Bobbi Bowman, a long-time newspaper reporter and editor, is now Diversity Director for the American Society of Newspaper Editors.

It brings a whole new meaning to the quote "The business of America is business".

Red
02-26-2007, 03:45 PM
This is something I have been saying for a bit. There is a lot of fiction mixed in with facts about what immigrants do in the US.

Hellfish
02-26-2007, 03:45 PM
Do the English-only laws also apply to French? Those damn Quebecoise and their out of control bi-lingualism are the real threat to the American way.

They can have me speaking French when they pull my vocal cords out of my cold, dead body!!!!!!!!!!!

Hellfish
02-26-2007, 03:46 PM
This is something I have been saying for a bit. There is a lot of fiction mixed in with facts about what immigrants do in the US.

Now that the Irish are widely accepted members of our society, we need a new immigrant minority to pick on.

Red
02-26-2007, 03:50 PM
Now that the Irish are widely accepted members of our society, we need a new immigrant minority to pick on.

I guess so...


Thank goodness no one noticed the African migrants. lol

Abolith
02-26-2007, 04:03 PM
These paradoxes exist because immigrants have become central to meeting our labor needs,


I stopped reading right there, complete bull****..

TheStorm
02-26-2007, 08:22 PM
What a stupid article. Of course immigrants pay taxes, and where is this debate over immigration that the article speaks of? The debate is over illegal immigration, and the fact that illegal immigrants often don't pay taxes.

Ordie
02-26-2007, 08:30 PM
What a stupid article. Of course immigrants pay taxes, and where is this debate over immigration that the article speaks of? The debate is over illegal immigration, and the fact that illegal immigrants often don't pay taxes.

How about sales tax??? gas tax?? cigarette tax??
It adds ups after a while.

Firetxmi
02-26-2007, 08:34 PM
These paradoxes exist because immigrants have become central to meeting our labor needs,


I stopped reading right there, complete bull****..

Are you kidding?

TheStorm
02-26-2007, 08:38 PM
How about sales tax??? gas tax?? cigarette tax??

Of course they pay some taxes - but not as many taxes that people who actually bother to obey the immigration laws do.


It adds ups after a while.

By that reasoning, why should I pay the full amount I owe on my bills? After all, it'll "add up after a while"! That's no excuse.

LaoSexMachine
02-26-2007, 08:44 PM
Stupid article. My family and I were legal immigrants to America and we made it a point to learned English. A green card holder can join the military and have certain rights like citizens. Just can't vote, no jury duty(good thing), and no federal job. All this article is tryiing to do is pull at the heart strings and nothing more. BTW it's not hard to get citizenship. You have to be a retard not to pass it.

Abolith
02-26-2007, 08:51 PM
Are you kidding?

no why would I be kidding? We have so many illegals in california right now its disgusting. it's complete BS, of course legal immigrants pay taxes, because they are becoming or are citizens it's the illegals that don't, and allthis article tries to do is confuse the two by playing on liberal emotions.

LaoSexMachine
02-26-2007, 08:59 PM
Are you kidding?

Permanent resident can collect unemployment and they pay the same taxes as US citizens. They can get a credit card, open an account, go to college, and many other things. BTW you have to work for atlest 10 years while you pay taxes to recieve SS benefits.

Calanen
02-26-2007, 09:11 PM
Permanent residents have most of the rights and obligations of US citizens in practical terms.

The illegal immigration thing has meant that the USA has cunningly dodged the problem for all of the West, the high cost of labour. How can the US compete with India and China when labour costs are so high? You cannot lower wage costs lawfully...so you turn the blind eye as a huge illegal labour pool that will work for a lot less streams across the border.

Everyone knows where the illegals are. They stand in mall parking lots shouting out that they will paint your house.

The US government knows that it has propped up its economy by letting these illegals in by the millions. They cannot let the illegals in legally, as this will upset the electorate. They cannot exclude them because this would tank the US economy as its labour pool of 13 million (estimate) of underclass workers is rounded up and shipped back. This would upset the electorate even more if the economy went into free fall.

The current system may be the only system that can take place and balance all interests. Have the benefit of cheap labour to permit the USA to continuet to compete with foreign countries, while at the same time telling the public you are committed to high wages.

Firetxmi
02-26-2007, 10:38 PM
I thought you were talking about them filling our labor need....

Aztec Eagle 201st
02-27-2007, 10:53 AM
Wow! Thank god..i have no need to immigrate to the U.S., i have a U.S. citizen sister and father and i could immigrate legaly and fast to the U.S. but why would i become a second class citizen in a country that is truly over there heads of illegal and legal immigration.

If for some reason i would have to immigrate i would rather go to Canada or Australia or even Spain.