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Fullaut0
02-27-2007, 09:50 PM
Serbia urges arrest of war crimes fugitives (http://archive.gulfnews.com/world/Serbia-Montenegro/10107632.html)

http://archive.gulfnews.com/world/Serbia-Montenegro/10107632.html (http://archive.gulfnews.com/world/Serbia-Montenegro/10107632.html) 02/27/2007 11:02 PM | AP

Belgrade: The Serbian president yesterday urged the arrest of General Ratko Mladic and other war crimes fugitives to comply with a World Court demand, a day after the tribunal cleared Serbia of genocide in Bosnia.
The UN's highest court ruled on Monday that Serbia did not carry out genocide against Muslims in Bosnia's war. But it ordered Belgrade to hand over Mladic, the Bosnian Serb wartime commander and alleged architect of the 1995 Srebrenica massacre.
"It is clear that the guilt has been individualised and that Serbia as a state is now protected, therefore all the indicted war criminals must end up" at a separate UN war crimes tribunal in the Netherlands, Tadic said after talks with Spanish Foreign Minister and Organisation for Security and Cooperation in Europe (OSCE) chairman Miguel Angel Moratinos.
However, the pro-Western Serbian president has little power to arrest Mladic, who is believed to be hiding in Serbia under the protection of hard-line supporters of late President Slobodan Milosevic.
Ivica Dacic, the leader of Milosevic's Socialist Party of Serbia, said yesterday that the World Court's decision clearing Serbia of genocide makes it hard to justify the UN war crimes charges for which the late leader was tried.
No effective control
The International Court of Justice ruling said that Serbia, then ruled by Milosevic's regime, did not have effective control over the Bosnian Serb forces it had helped arm and finance during the 1992-95 war.
Milosevic was on trial in the UN war crimes tribunal for genocide when he died in The Hague a year ago, weeks before his four-year trial was due to end.
Hard to justify
Dacic said that "if our state did not commit genocide, it is hard to justify the charges against Milosevic and other former Yugoslav leaders who were accused of the so-called chain-of-command responsibility" in Bosnia.
"The World Court ruling ridicules such charges," he said. The judges ruled that Belgrade could - and should - have stopped genocide in the UN-protected enclave of Srebrenica - where more than 7,000 Muslims were massacred by Bosnian Serb troops under Mladic's command.

As noted in this article, a pretty empty promise.

Who are these hardline Milosevic supporters that are hiding Mladic, supposedly in Serbia?

Also, there is no direct mention of Karadzic. Could he also be in Serbia or is it more likely that he is in RS?

Most interestingly, I can't believe I missed such an obvious implication with regards to the Milosevic trial - no chain of command responsibility!

However, we must ask, had Milosevic been still alive and on trial would the verdict against the Serbian state be the same?

Knez Eru
02-27-2007, 10:21 PM
Karađić is somewhere in RS, and about Mladić: the Radikals and their supporters are more than willing and capable of hiding him. Especialy considering the vast number of bunkers scattered around the country. He will not be found without blind luck unless betrayed or negotiated to surrender. Personally, I think that as a former soldier and self-proclaimed patriot, he would do his country a great favor by turning himself in.

oldsoak
02-28-2007, 08:46 AM
The problem here is that to hand them over will be seen as yet another capitulation for certain factions - there is a lot of pride and defiance at stake here. As difficult as it may seem, the best way forward would be make them a non-issue by ensuring liberal western investment/aid in Serbia. This will help foster a postive attitude to the west, and Mladic and Karadic will seen as more and more as an anachronisms . Eventually their whereabouts will become known, with obvious results.

fourenziks
02-28-2007, 09:39 AM
Liberal western policies.......



....no thanks....

GreekAmerican
02-28-2007, 06:29 PM
the Hague tribunal is a comedy......

R.D.
02-28-2007, 06:34 PM
the Hague tribunal is a comedy......
Okay... So where do you think they should be trialed wiseguy?

GreekAmerican
02-28-2007, 07:23 PM
Okay... So where do you think they should be trialed wiseguy?

by an international criminal court that the US rejected becouse people like Gen Clark and Madeleine Allbright should also be there:)


US Opposition to the International Criminal Court

The United States government has consistently opposed an international court that could hold US military and political leaders to a uniform global standard of justice. The Clinton administration participated actively in negotiations towards the International Criminal Court treaty, seeking Security Council screening of cases. If adopted, this would have enabled the US to veto any dockets it opposed. When other countries refused to agree to such an unequal standard of justice, the US campaigned to weaken and undermine the court. The Bush administration, coming into office in 2001 as the Court neared implementation, adopted an extremely active opposition. Washington began to negotiate bilateral agreements with other countries, insuring immunity of US nationals from prosecution by the Court. As leverage, Washington threatened termination of economic aid, withdrawal of military assistance, and other painful measures. These exclusionary steps clearly endanger the fledgling Court and may seriously weaken its credibility and effectiveness.


http://www.globalpolicy.org/intljustice/icc/usindex.htm

BW2
03-05-2007, 08:05 PM
Where should they be tried?....They should be tried by the people they have shamed.

Look no offence but the Hague is a joke.

They will be captured be sure of that, but question is should Serbia send them to the Hague or put them on tril in Serbia.....assuming they are in Serbia...

And GM made a excelent point...what about those two? maybe you didn't know that 2000-3000 civilains were killed in "Humanitarian Bombing"....what ever the hell that is...:roll:

btw Allbright who was of Jewish (didn't even know unitl recently..) decent was rescued by Serb soldiers in WW2...your welcome :bash: