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HELEX
04-26-2004, 08:59 AM
For those who are interested(Or still keep saying he trys to keep some of them secret...):

http://www.johnkerry.com/about/military_records.html

Bush revealed only very small Parts(And wont reveal more, even when the Hell freezes)... :lol:

flickme
04-26-2004, 09:08 AM
Im gonna find something incriminating if it takes me all day. jk. :P

HELEX
04-26-2004, 09:12 AM
Maybe he did steal some long underwear? :lol:

http://www.spiegel.de/img/0,1020,229375,00.jpg

Pandy
04-26-2004, 10:09 AM
I've heard a few things on the news that one of his records on his site is uncorrect, never know. Someone should look into it and maybe, find out :). flickme should look in it. :D

Seoulstriker
04-26-2004, 10:10 AM
It has also been revealed that John Kerry used someone else's records from Vietnam. :lol: There was a navy commander who read the records and said "these records sound a lot like MY service in Vietnam." rofl

Loco
04-26-2004, 10:22 AM
Rich boy, like GWB; smart boy, like GWB? may be; good student, unlike GWB; dauntless and brave, like GWB? rofl
Certainly, envy has a green face. ;)

HELEX
04-26-2004, 10:35 AM
It has also been revealed that John Kerry used someone else's records from Vietnam. There was a navy commander who read the records and said "these records sound a lot like MY service in Vietnam."

You must be very desperate to state something like this. There are Copys in the Navy archive, they just have to compare them.... If something is wrong Kerrys carreer is ended at the same second. rofl

Of course there is much similarity, the use standard Sentences for something like that and take what fitts best.

You must be even more stupid than your Avatar is looking. :lol:

Seoulstriker
04-26-2004, 10:39 AM
HELEX, first of all, you don't live in this country, and your take on American politics is both ignorant and ridiculous. Second, military service was dismissed by democrats when Clinton was running for office, but now that it is a republican, OH NO! Third, Kerry absolutely hated his service in Vietnam and testified that in congress. Fourth, Kerry rejected his purple hearts and threw them on the steps of congress in disgust. Fifth, Kerry did everything he could to get out of Vietnam by claiming purple hearts for the slightest injuries. Sixth, Kerry only released partial records initially which were actually the records of some other naval officer serving on the same boat prior. Seventh, Kerry was only in Vietnam for less than a year.

The Walrus
04-26-2004, 10:53 AM
Ummmmmm, what's Clinton got to do with this?

HELEX
04-26-2004, 11:02 AM
HELEX, first of all, you don't live in this country, and your take on American politics is both ignorant and ridiculous.

But Bushs idiotic Foreign Policy has effect on the whole world so I have to care about him.


Second, military service was dismissed by democrats when Clinton was running for office, but now that it is a republican, OH NO!

Bush started that **** by posing in a Jumpsuit and stating he has been in War... Kerry came out after the Republican campaing to question his service.
He just answered Questions about Nam, but never said "I was in Nam, Har, har, har.... :cantbeli: )


Third, Kerry absolutely hated his service in Vietnam and testified that in congress.

So you have to love that **** to be a Hero? He was drafted and you are retarded...


Fourth, Kerry rejected his purple hearts and threw them on the steps of congress in disgust.

He also never said "Look at my purple Hearts, har, har....." The Media brought that.... To earn them and to reject them is completely different.


Fifth, Kerry did everything he could to get out of Vietnam by claiming purple hearts for the slightest injuries.

Same reliable sources as for "these records sound a lot like MY service in Vietnam."? :lol:


Sixth, Kerry only released partial records initially which were actually the records of some other naval officer serving on the same boat prior.

Thats exactely the same BS as you brought before, if this would be true his candidacy would be ended immediately. rofl


Seventh, Kerry was only in Vietnam for less than a year.

So, less than a year in a Warzone is very long..... How long serve the GIs now before the can go home from Iraq? Surely not as long as "less than a year".

Sorry, but you are a just funny rofl rofl rofl

HELEX
04-26-2004, 11:04 AM
Ummmmmm, what's Clinton got to do with this?

He ever comes up with Clinton when running out of Arguments. ;)

Rilence
04-26-2004, 11:07 AM
hehe...helex is trying to start a flame war again right helex? ;) :P

HELEX
04-26-2004, 11:18 AM
hehe...helex is trying to start a flame war again right helex?

No, Seoulstriker is just disgusting. He brings up Statements that collapse just by looking at them. Kerry is a well educated Gentleman, who has seen the World. Bush is just a rich born Moron who cant even properly read or has left the United States.

Rilence
04-26-2004, 11:23 AM
hehe...helex is trying to start a flame war again right helex?

No, Seoulstriker is just disgusting. He brings up Statements that collapse just by looking at them. Kerry is a well educated Gentleman, who has seen the World. Bush is just a rich born Moron who cant even properly read or has left the United States.
im just thinking you made the topic just to start somthing(knowing certain ppl would reply) i mean its so easy to do...but thats just me i guess ;) :P

obd
04-26-2004, 11:33 AM
Soulstriker, I find it odd that you claim HELEX has no appreciation for American politics because he doesnt live Ameican......... yet in the very next sentence you say "Kerry tried to get out of Vietnam by getting as many purple hearts as fast as possible"....

What are you a moron?? Kerry won his purple hearts through courageous acts, just look at his record you dumb ****!!!!!! Kerry also won the silver star for bravery in the face of the enemy when he saved the life of a commando at great risk to his own and when nobody else would.......let me ask you Soulstrilker: Was Kerry just trying to get out of Vietnam quickly when he did that?? Maybe he was trying to get home so fast he decided it would be best to do it in a body bag???

Soulstriker, there are far far easier ways to go home that getting shot or wounded by shrapnel...George Bush found one of them by signing up for a panzie ass NG unit with other Senators and Congressmans sons in there......and he showed up for all of 3 WHOLE DAYS too while Kerry was out there fighting...... Oh and for all you morons who hate Kerry for protesting the war, Bush said in public during one of the few speeches his minders let him make that he was ALSO AGAINST THE WAR......but at least Kerry served......Bush just hid out in the desert......

You dont write yourself up for the purple heart you dumbass, it is awarded to you for unjury in battle......yet you try to belittle this and make comments when you have no idea of the circumstances surrounding each of his 3 purple hearts......and then in other posts you talk about respect for veterans and crap: You are a hypocrite of the highest order Soulstriker...and you dishonor your nations proud hero's by your idiocy...

MEGR
04-26-2004, 11:38 AM
Than Kerry threw his medals away.

MEGR
04-26-2004, 11:44 AM
Soulstriker, I find it odd that you claim HELEX has no appreciation for American politics because he doesnt live Ameican......... yet in the very next sentence you say "Kerry tried to get out of Vietnam by getting as many purple hearts as fast as possible"....

What are you a moron?? Kerry won his purple hearts through courageous acts, just look at his record you dumb ****!!!!!! Kerry also won the silver star for bravery in the face of the enemy when he saved the life of a commando at great risk to his own and when nobody else would.......let me ask you Soulstrilker: Was Kerry just trying to get out of Vietnam quickly when he did that?? Maybe he was trying to get home so fast he decided it would be best to do it in a body bag???

Soulstriker, there are far far easier ways to go home that getting shot or wounded by shrapnel...George Bush found one of them by signing up for a panzie ass NG unit with other Senators and Congressmans sons in there......and he showed up for all of 3 WHOLE DAYS too while Kerry was out there fighting...... Oh and for all you morons who hate Kerry for protesting the war, Bush said in public during one of the few speeches his minders let him make that he was ALSO AGAINST THE WAR......but at least Kerry served......Bush just hid out in the desert......

You dont write yourself up for the purple heart you dumbass, it is awarded to you for unjury in battle......yet you try to belittle this and make comments when you have no idea of the circumstances surrounding each of his 3 purple hearts......and then in other posts you talk about respect for veterans and crap: You are a hypocrite of the highest order Soulstriker...and you dishonor your nations proud hero's by your idiocy...

Hey there. 6500 names on the Vietnam memorial (the Wall) are from your so called "panzie ass NG unit." How dare you say that. Bush, not going to Vietnam is one thing, but calling the NG "panzies" is going to far. To say that Bush avoided going to Vietnam is utter lies, and backed up by nothing. His unit didn't even get called up to duty then, and to think that the ENTIRE unit stayed in state because of one man is utter BS.

HELEX
04-26-2004, 11:46 AM
Than Kerry threw his medals away.

Damn, thats just a piece of cheap metall!

He is not Honored by this pieces of tin, it is these stamped Metall what gets value by what he did. He never asked for them.

Trigger
04-26-2004, 11:49 AM
What does it say about Kerry if HE-LICKS and obd are his two loudest supporters? rofl

MEGR
04-26-2004, 11:50 AM
Than Kerry threw his medals away.

Damn, thats just a piece of cheap metall!

He is not Honored by this pieces of tin, it is these stamped Metall what gets value by what he did. He never asked for them.

Didn't seem like he was very proud of his service, throwing away all his medals for his heroic actions. Yet now, his service is really the only thing going for him in this election.

Trigger
04-26-2004, 11:51 AM
Devgru77, don't waste your time on these iditots. You can't un-warp minds like theirs.

HELEX
04-26-2004, 11:56 AM
What does it say about Kerry if HE-LICKS and obd are his two loudest supporters? rofl

That says:

1.)Everybody is better than Bush.

2.)He is respected in Europe and the whole World.

3.)He knows that war should always be the last Option, not the first.

And regarding "HE-LICKS": Yes I do and women appreciate it very much. :lol:

Trigger
04-26-2004, 12:02 PM
What does it say about Kerry if HE-LICKS and obd are his two loudest supporters? rofl

That says:

1.)Everybody is better than Bush. Most Americans disagree.

2.)He is respected in Europe and the whole World. As if.

3.)He knows that war should always be the last Option, not the first. Only an idiot like you believes that we chose war as a first option. 1441 ring a bell?

And regarding "HE-LICKS": Yes I do and women appreciate it very much. :lol: Your mom and your sisters don't count.

Geezah
04-26-2004, 12:18 PM
Fourth, Kerry rejected his purple hearts and threw them on the steps of congress in disgust.

I have to correct you on this one, they weren't his medals he threw, they were someone else's who was wheelchair bound, but he told the media at the time they were his only to recently say to the media that his medals are hanging on his office wall :roll:

Now it would be cool if he released information as to where we could buy his anti-vietnam war books :D
http://la.indymedia.org/uploads/kerrynewsoldier.jpg


The book he doesn’t want you to see: When Kerry ran for election to the U.S. House of Representative in 1972, “he found it necessary to suppress reproduction of the cover picture appearing on his own book, The New Soldier. His political opponent pointed out that it depicted several unkempt youths crudely handling an American flag to mock the famous photo of the U.S. Marines at Iwo Jima,” according to Vietnam Veterans Against John Kerry. “Suddenly, copies of the book became unavailable and even disappeared from libraries. But the Lowell (Mass.) Sun said of the type of person shown on its cover: ‘These people spit on the flag, they burn the flag, they carry the flag upside down, [and] they all but wipe their noses with it in their efforts to show their contempt for everything it still stands for,’” the New American reported. Even today it is hard to find this infamous photo and book.

What You Don’t Know About John Kerry

With his win in Iowa, Sen. John Kerry could be on his way to the White House. But most Americans are unaware of the real Kerry.

Here are facts and quotations that reveal the character of the new Democrat leader.

# Denouncing America with ‘Hanoi’ Jane: Although Wesley Clark and others have attacked former front-runner Howard Dean as a draft-dodging ski bum, Kerry is far more complex than the simple war hero he portrays himself as.

He became a celebrated organizer for one of America's most extreme appeasement groups, Vietnam Veterans Against the War. He consorted with the likes of “Hanoi” Jane Fonda and Ramsey Clark, Lyndon Johnson’s radical former attorney general.

He attended a seminar bankrolled by Fonda in Detroit in February 1971. Watching 125 self-proclaimed Vietnam veterans testify at a Howard Johnson’s about atrocities allegedly committed by U.S. forces, the man who would be president later said he found the accounts shocking and irrefutable.

Dubbed “The Winter Soldier Investigation,” the protest attracted minimal media attention, according to the Los Angeles Times, because Fonda insisted it be held in the remote Michigan city rather than the less “authentic” Washington, D.C.

Still, the event gave Kerry an idea for a protest that was sure to be a media smash, and he immediately set out to organize one of the most confrontational protests of the war.

Operation Dewey Canyon III began on April 18, 1971, when nearly 1,000 Vietnam veterans and people claiming to be veterans gathered on Washington’s Mall for what they called “a limited incursion into the country of Congress.”

The group staged mock firefights on the steps of the Capitol and Supreme Court and defied U.S. Park Police after the Department of Justice issued an injunction barring it from camping on the Mall.

# Those evil American soldiers: Testifying before the Senate Foreign Relations Committee on April 23, 1971, Kerry claimed that U.S. soldiers had “raped, cut off ears, cut off heads, taped wires from portable telephones to human genitals and turned up the power, cut off limbs, blown up bodies, randomly shot at civilians, razed villages, shot cattle and dogs for fun, poisoned food stocks, and generally ravaged the countryside of South Vietnam.”

# ‘We are not the best’: In his testimony, Kerry claimed there was no communist threat and said: “In 1970 at West Point Vice President Agnew said ‘some glamorize the criminal misfits of society while our best men die in Asian rice paddies to preserve the freedom which most of those misfits abuse,’ and this was used as a rallying point for our effort in Vietnam. But for us, as boys in Asia whom the country was supposed to support, his statement is a terrible distortion from which we can only draw a very deep sense of revulsion, and hence the anger of some of the men who are here in Washington today. It is a distortion because we in no way consider ourselves the best men of this country ….”

U.S. Veteran Dispatch noted in 1996: “Kerry's testimony, it should be noted, occurred while some of his fellow Vietnam veterans were known by the world to be enduring terrible suffering as prisoners of war in North Vietnamese prisons. Kerry was a supporter of the ‘People's Peace Treaty,’" a supposed ‘people's’ declaration to end the war, reportedly drawn up in communist East Germany. It included nine points, all of which were taken from Viet Cong peace proposals at the Paris peace talks as conditions for ending the war.”

# Throw as I say, not as I do: On that same day he led members of VVAW in a protest during which they threw their medals and ribbons over a fence in front of the U.S. Capitol.

Kerry later admitted the medals he threw were not his. To this day they hang on the wall of his office.

# Communist stooge: The communist Daily World delightedly published photos of him speaking to demonstrators and boasted that the marchers displayed a banner depicting a portrait of Communist Party leader Angela Davis, on record stating, “I am dedicated to the overthrow of your system of government and your society,” the New American recalled in May 2003.

“By frequently participating in VVAW’s demonstrations, Kerry found himself marching alongside what the Boston Herald Traveler identified as ‘revolutionary Communists.’ While noting that known Reds had openly organized these events, the December 12, 1971 Herald Traveler reported the presence of an ‘abundance of Vietcong flags, clenched fists raised in the air, and placards plainly bearing legends in support of China, Cuba, the USSR, North Korea and the Hanoi government.’"

Vietnam Veterans Against John Kerry says: “As a national leader of VVAW, Kerry campaigned against the effort of the United States to contain the spread of Communism. He used the blood of servicemen still in the field for his own political advancement by claiming that their blood was being shed unnecessarily or in vain.

“Under Kerry's leadership, VVAW members mocked the uniform of United States soldiers by wearing tattered fatigues marked with pro-communist graffiti. They dishonored America by marching in demonstrations under the flag of the Viet Cong enemy.”

Sen. John McCain revealed that his North Vietnamese captors had used reports of Kerry-led protests to taunt him and his fellow prisoners. Retired General George S. Patton III angrily noted that Kerry’s actions had “given aid and comfort to the enemy.”

In recent years when Kerry has exploited the Vietnam Veterans Memorial for photo opportunities on Veterans Day, some veterans, still outraged by his betrayal, have turned their backs on him.


# The book he doesn’t want you to see: When Kerry ran for election to the U.S. House of Representative in 1972, “he found it necessary to suppress reproduction of the cover picture appearing on his own book, The New Soldier. His political opponent pointed out that it depicted several unkempt youths crudely handling an American flag to mock the famous photo of the U.S. Marines at Iwo Jima,” according to Vietnam Veterans Against John Kerry.

“Suddenly, copies of the book became unavailable and even disappeared from libraries. But the Lowell (Mass.) Sun said of the type of person shown on its cover: ‘These people spit on the flag, they burn the flag, they carry the flag upside down, [and] they all but wipe their noses with it in their efforts to show their contempt for everything it still stands for,’” the New American reported.

Even today it is hard to find this infamous photo and book.

# Friendly with the enemy: Kerry’s fondness for Vietnam’s communist dictatorship, one of the most oppressive in the world, continues.

As chairman of the Select Senate Committee on POW/MIA Affairs, created in 1991 to investigate reports that U.S. prisoners of war and soldiers designated missing in action were still alive in Vietnam, Kerry badgered the panel into voting that no American servicemen remained in Vietnam.

“[N]o one in the United States Senate pushed harder to bury the POW/MIA issue, the last obstacle preventing normalization of relations with Hanoi, than John Forbes Kerry,” noted U.S. Veteran Dispatch.

“But Kerry's participation in the Committee became controversial in December 1992,” reported the nonpartisan Center for Public Integrity, “when Hanoi announced that it had awarded Colliers International, a Boston-based real estate company, an exclusive deal to develop its commercial real estate potentially worth billions. Stuart Forbes, the CEO of Colliers, is Kerry's cousin.”

The “odd coincidence,” according to FrontPageMagazine.com, involved a deal worth $905 million.

Jeff Jacoby, the token conservative columnist at the Boston Globe, notes that Kerry continues his apologia for Vietnam's never-ending atrocities. "Far from taking the lead on the Vietnam Human Rights Bill, he has prevented it from coming to a vote. He claims that making an issue of Hanoi's repression would be counterproductive."

Kerry is also a fan of China’s communist dictatorship. “On May 19, 1994, five years after Tiananmen Square, Kerry spoke on the Senate floor against linking China's Most Favored Nation trade status to its human rights record,” Slate reported.

Kerry said: “China is the strongest military power in Asia. We need China's cooperation. We cannot afford to adopt a cold-war kind of policy that merely excludes and pushes China away.”

Limiting China's MFN status “would make us a bit player in a production of enormous proportions. We possess no stick, including MFN, which can force China to embrace internationally recognized human rights and freedoms.”

# More extreme than Hillary and Kucinich: Among the White House wannabes, long-shot Rep. Dennis Kucinich has the reputation of holding the most left-wing congressional voting record. In fact, this “honor” goes to Kerry.

According to American Conservative Union, Kerry has a lifetime rating of 6 percent, compared to 13 for the demolished Rep. **** Gephardt, 14 for Sen. John Edwards, 15 for Kucinich and 19 for Sen. Joe Lieberman.

Sens. Hillary Clinton and Tom Daschle score 13 percent. Only the likes of Sens. Teddy Kennedy and Barbara Boxer have more left-wing records than Kerry. In contrast, Sen. John Breaux, one of the upper chamber’s few remaining moderate Democrats, has a 46.

# Drive as I say, not as I do: Like Al Gore and other self-described environmentalists, Kerry has a radical agenda that would devastate the U.S. economy in favor of the likes of communist China, yet he enjoys the gas-guzzling modern conveniences that greens denounce. Kerry, a delegate to the environment-destroying Earth Summit in 1992 (where he met his future wife, left-wing activist Teresa Heinz, the multimillionaire widow of GOP Sen. John Heinz), the Kyoto climate talks in 1997 and the Hague Conference of the U.N. Framework Convention on Climate Change in 2000, has attacked President Bush for withdrawing from the anti-U.S. Kyoto Protocol. This treaty, which then-President Bill Clinton had signed, would impose severe restrictions on the United States but not Third World polluters that already enjoy huge trade surpluses with the U.S.

However, although Kerry spouts the party line on anti-U.S. ecopolicy, he doesn’t like to practice what he preaches. Kerry was humiliated in April 2002 when photographed attending a rally against energy independence and then heading back to his SUV, the symbol of all that is evil to self-described greens.

# Bone to pick: Bush-hating conspiracy theorists find it alarming that the president, like his father, was a member of the secretive Skull and Bones society at Yale University. Another alum of this club: John Kerry.

# Get out your wallets: One reason Kerry and Edwards did well in Iowa: Losers Dean and Gephardt admitted they'd repeal all of the president's tax relief. However, although Kerry has taken credit for middle-class tax cuts, child tax credit and relief of the marriage penalty, he voted against them, GOP.com disclosed.

"Kerry will have to expend an awful lot of time and money to convince people that he's not the classic Massachusetts liberal," Larry Sabato, a respected political analyst at the University of Virginia, told the Associated Press in December 2002. "And that's going to be tough, because mainly he is."

# Waffling on Iraq: Kerry has the tough job of wooing Howard Dean’s anti-war Democrats despite his support of the war in Iraq. His favorite tactic, claiming the president outfoxed him, doesn’t hold up to scrutiny.

On “Meet the Press” in late August, Tim Russert played a tape of Kerry addressing the Senate in October 2002 with a hard-line speech declaring Iraq “capable of quickly producing weaponizing” of biological weapons that could be delivered against “the United States itself.”

Kerry insisted: “That is exactly the point I’m making. We were given this information by our intelligence community.”

However, as columnist Robert Novak noted, “as a senator, Kerry had access to the National Intelligence Estimate that was skeptical of Iraqi capability. Being tricky may no longer be as effective politically as it once was.”

No doubt Dean, Lieberman, Clark and other rivals will now use these and other details to do to Kerry what the Democrats did to Dean.

The Link (http://la.indymedia.org/news/2004/01/101766.php)

HELEX
04-26-2004, 12:23 PM
What does it say about Kerry if HE-LICKS and obd are his two loudest supporters? rofl

That says:

1.)Everybody is better than Bush. Most Americans disagree.

2.)He is respected in Europe and the whole World. As if.

3.)He knows that war should always be the last Option, not the first. Only an idiot like you believes that we chose war as a first option. 1441 ring a bell?

And regarding "HE-LICKS": Yes I do and women appreciate it very much. :lol: Your mom and your sisters don't count.

That was even cheaper than Seoulstrikers, Ladys and Gentleman were facing a new lowpoint. rofl

I've ecpected something more from you, especially about the Topic. p-)

martinexsquaddie
04-26-2004, 01:17 PM
george bush was a coward he got his daddy buddies to make sure he jumped the list to get into the ANG.
Fair enough but sort of hard to take him serious posing in a flight suit made me laugh rofl

Geezah
04-26-2004, 01:32 PM
george bush was a coward he got his daddy buddies to make sure he jumped the list to get into the ANG.
Fair enough but sort of hard to take him serious posing in a flight suit made me laugh rofl

Almost as funny as knowing that American troops were deployed more times under Clinton than any other President!

Now where was Clinton while Bush served this Country?

Jack Mehoff
04-26-2004, 01:40 PM
Soulstriker, I find it odd that you claim HELEX has no appreciation for American politics because he doesnt live Ameican......... yet in the very next sentence you say "Kerry tried to get out of Vietnam by getting as many purple hearts as fast as possible"....

What are you a moron?? Kerry won his purple hearts through courageous acts, just look at his record you dumb ****!!!!!! Kerry also won the silver star for bravery in the face of the enemy when he saved the life of a commando at great risk to his own and when nobody else would.......let me ask you Soulstrilker: Was Kerry just trying to get out of Vietnam quickly when he did that?? Maybe he was trying to get home so fast he decided it would be best to do it in a body bag???

Soulstriker, there are far far easier ways to go home that getting shot or wounded by shrapnel...George Bush found one of them by signing up for a panzie ass NG unit with other Senators and Congressmans sons in there......and he showed up for all of 3 WHOLE DAYS too while Kerry was out there fighting...... Oh and for all you morons who hate Kerry for protesting the war, Bush said in public during one of the few speeches his minders let him make that he was ALSO AGAINST THE WAR......but at least Kerry served......Bush just hid out in the desert......

You dont write yourself up for the purple heart you dumbass, it is awarded to you for unjury in battle......yet you try to belittle this and make comments when you have no idea of the circumstances surrounding each of his 3 purple hearts......and then in other posts you talk about respect for veterans and crap: You are a hypocrite of the highest order Soulstriker...and you dishonor your nations proud hero's by your idiocy...

Please give me a ****ing break!!! You are the same person made a thread to belittle PFC Lynch for her awards.
http://instagiber.net/smiliesdotcom/otn/laughing/laugh2.gif


p.s. check your PM!!!

HELEX
04-26-2004, 01:44 PM
Geezah wrote:


Almost as funny as knowing that American troops were deployed more times under Clinton than any other President!

Now where was Clinton while Bush served this Country?

Earlyer in this thread:



Ummmmmm, what's Clinton got to do with this?

He ever comes up with Clinton when running out of Arguments. ;)

I have to quote myself this time.... rofl rofl rofl rofl


p-)

Jack Mehoff
04-26-2004, 01:48 PM
Soulstriker, I find it odd that you claim HELEX has no appreciation for American politics because he doesnt live Ameican......... yet in the very next sentence you say "Kerry tried to get out of Vietnam by getting as many purple hearts as fast as possible"....

What are you a moron?? Kerry won his purple hearts through courageous acts, just look at his record you dumb ****!!!!!! Kerry also won the silver star for bravery in the face of the enemy when he saved the life of a commando at great risk to his own and when nobody else would.......let me ask you Soulstrilker: Was Kerry just trying to get out of Vietnam quickly when he did that?? Maybe he was trying to get home so fast he decided it would be best to do it in a body bag???

Soulstriker, there are far far easier ways to go home that getting shot or wounded by shrapnel...George Bush found one of them by signing up for a panzie ass NG unit with other Senators and Congressmans sons in there......and he showed up for all of 3 WHOLE DAYS too while Kerry was out there fighting...... Oh and for all you morons who hate Kerry for protesting the war, Bush said in public during one of the few speeches his minders let him make that he was ALSO AGAINST THE WAR......but at least Kerry served......Bush just hid out in the desert......

You dont write yourself up for the purple heart you dumbass, it is awarded to you for unjury in battle......yet you try to belittle this and make comments when you have no idea of the circumstances surrounding each of his 3 purple hearts......and then in other posts you talk about respect for veterans and crap: You are a hypocrite of the highest order Soulstriker...and you dishonor your nations proud hero's by your idiocy...

rofl I think you should stop calling yourself a dumbass, odb


http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/viewtopic.php?p=148259&highlight=#148259

Trigger
04-26-2004, 01:51 PM
What does it say about Kerry if HE-LICKS and obd are his two loudest supporters? rofl

That says:

1.)Everybody is better than Bush. Most Americans disagree.

2.)He is respected in Europe and the whole World. As if.

3.)He knows that war should always be the last Option, not the first. Only an idiot like you believes that we chose war as a first option. 1441 ring a bell?

And regarding "HE-LICKS": Yes I do and women appreciate it very much. :lol: Your mom and your sisters don't count.

That was even cheaper than Seoulstrikers, Ladys and Gentleman were facing a new lowpoint. rofl Waaaaa! Whine somewhere else little bitch. You started another little flame fest and now you can't take the heat. We face a new lowpoint every time you post, so don't try to claim the moral high ground you hypocrite.

I've ecpected something more from you, especially about the Topic. p-) That's funny. pinkeye already said that a few days ago. If you have nothing to say and are going to simply parrot someone else's comments, at least try not to be so obvious about the fact that you're out of ammo.

Jack Mehoff
04-26-2004, 01:54 PM
I find it interesting that HELEX actually cares about Kerry's military service background. I mean, we are talking about this guy HELEX who takes joy in mocking deceased US servicemen.

What make you change of heart, HELEX?

HELEX
04-26-2004, 01:56 PM
What does it say about Kerry if HE-LICKS and obd are his two loudest supporters? rofl

That says:

1.)Everybody is better than Bush. Most Americans disagree.

2.)He is respected in Europe and the whole World. As if.

3.)He knows that war should always be the last Option, not the first. Only an idiot like you believes that we chose war as a first option. 1441 ring a bell?

And regarding "HE-LICKS": Yes I do and women appreciate it very much. :lol: Your mom and your sisters don't count.

That was even cheaper than Seoulstrikers, Ladys and Gentleman were facing a new lowpoint. rofl Waaaaa! Whine somewhere else little bitch. You started another little flame fest and now you can't take the heat. We face a new lowpoint every time you post, so don't try to claim the moral high ground you hypocrite.

I've ecpected something more from you, especially about the Topic. p-) That's funny. pinkeye already said that a few days ago. If you have nothing to say and are going to simply parrot someone else's comments, at least try not to be so obvious about the fact that you're out of ammo.

I just have to say one word about that..... "Clinton" rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl

So am I out of ammo? You brought nothing up, so why fire? :lol:

Trigger
04-26-2004, 01:59 PM
Yes, you're out of ammo and now you will just post mindless, unintelligible nonsense (see above).





(and below... :roll: )

HELEX
04-26-2004, 02:08 PM
So what is left to counter?

Tell me? :lol:

California Joe
04-26-2004, 03:30 PM
HELEX, first of all, you don't live in this country, and your take on American politics is both ignorant and ridiculous. Second, military service was dismissed by democrats when Clinton was running for office, but now that it is a republican, OH NO! Third, Kerry absolutely hated his service in Vietnam and testified that in congress. Fourth, Kerry rejected his purple hearts and threw them on the steps of congress in disgust. Fifth, Kerry did everything he could to get out of Vietnam by claiming purple hearts for the slightest injuries. Sixth, Kerry only released partial records initially which were actually the records of some other naval officer serving on the same boat prior. Seventh, Kerry was only in Vietnam for less than a year.

Hated being shot at but did his duty and was sited twice for valor. Would have been odd to like being shot at. Swift boats were pretty hazardous duty with high casualty rates. It's a little harder to get purple hearts than just claiming they should give you one. The records are not under Kerry's control, they belong to the frigging Navy. Less than a year because of 3 purple hearts. I don't think much of the guy as a politician and you can think he's a **** and not vote for him, but until you've been in combat you really are talking out of your ass again.

ExtraT
04-26-2004, 07:45 PM
HELEX, crawl back to your cage NOW, or you won't get fed tonight!!!!!

martinexsquaddie
04-27-2004, 01:33 AM
george bush serving his country rofl rofl.
getting a nice soft billet with no chance of going to the war and using his contacts to jump the queue. Hardly the actions of an inspring war leader rof.
Bill at least cleared off out the country and voiced his feeling the war was wrong although a mouse would have made more noise. GEOrge did a melchett " i'M afraid going to have to sit this one out with the weezey boys and matron with the half time oranges" :(

Jack Mehoff
04-27-2004, 02:58 AM
george bush serving his country rofl rofl.
getting a nice soft billet with no chance of going to the war and using his contacts to jump the queue. Hardly the actions of an inspring war leader rof.
Bill at least cleared off out the country and voiced his feeling the war was wrong although a mouse would have made more noise. GEOrge did a melchett " i'M afraid going to have to sit this one out with the weezey boys and matron with the half time oranges" :(

So you are telling me National Guard/Reserve folks DON'T serve their country? Are you even American? Do you live here? What is your association with US military, or do you pull this **** out of your ass?

OEF and OIF is nowhere as big as Vietnam War, and yet, over 80% of NG/Reserve in my state alone got deploy oversea to fight wars along with regular Army units. They didn't invent Soldiers’ and Sailors’ Civil Relief Act and stop loss for nothing.

You know, just because GWB's NG unit didn't get deploy to Vietnam doesn't mean he's avoiding duty. So what the hell are you babbling about?

HELEX
04-27-2004, 11:49 AM
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