View Full Version : New Mexico Resolution to Impeach Bush !
Notlim
03-03-2007, 07:04 PM
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4529463175813468205&hl=en
NM senate rules 5/0 to impeach bush!
well what are the options for the Bush administration? will it stick?
LaoSexMachine
03-03-2007, 07:07 PM
Pffft. No authority. Just a symbolic gesture.
Pandy
03-03-2007, 07:51 PM
Alright, lets go ahead and make Cheney president.
Midav
03-03-2007, 08:04 PM
Alright, lets go ahead and make Cheney president.
They want to impeach him as well.
New Mexico... what else needs to be said...
exarmyguard
03-03-2007, 08:28 PM
It's symbolic, but doesn't mean its meaningless. Imagine if more states did the same thing. It could potentially be damaging if there is a total lack of confidence against Bush amongst the majority of the states. I wonder if something like this has been done before?
BloodyTalon
03-03-2007, 08:36 PM
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4529463175813468205&hl=en
NM senate rules 5/0 to impeach bush!
well what are the options for the Bush administration? will it stick?
You really don't know that much about how the US government works. A state government has no control over the federal government. That ruling is merely symbolic.
LaoSexMachine
03-03-2007, 08:39 PM
Only two presidents have been impeached. Andrew Johnson and Bill Clinton.
MichaelF
03-03-2007, 08:47 PM
All 50 State Legislatures could vote to impeach the POTUS.
It would not make any impact.
Such matters are dealt with in the US Congress (House & Senate). Not the State Legislatures.
About the only real power the State Legislatures have over Congress is the ability to call a Convention to Amend the Constitution. Takes 2/3(?) of the States, and has never been used.
D-gin
03-03-2007, 08:48 PM
They need to find better ways to spend there time rather then making useless gestures.
chuckster
03-03-2007, 09:00 PM
Everyone should realize there is going to be an election in about one and a half years. Pay attention to who you vote for, and if the wrong person gets elected don't bellyache about it!
exarmyguard
03-03-2007, 09:15 PM
I understand the point that state governments have no say in Federal issues. However, it is the citizens within each state who must carry the burden of this "war". Therefore, if the citizens do not agree with this war, it is the citizens who are obligated to change it. Sadly, the legislatures are faltering in what the people want, that is, the end of this war. So, the people are using another option via state governments. I admire the actions of New Mexico in that it is listening to its citizens.
ElHombre
03-03-2007, 10:53 PM
Pffft. No authority. Just a symbolic gesture.
Not quite. The rules of the House of Reps laid down by Thomas Jefferson allow several ways to impeach (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jefferson%27s_Manual) an official. The specific rule itself says:
In the House there are various methods of setting an impeachment in motion: by charges made on the floor on the responsibility of a Member or Delegate; by charges preferred by a memorial, which is usually referred to a committee for examination; by a resolution dropped in the hopper by a Member and referred to a committee; by a message from the President; by charges transmitted from the legislature of a State or territory or from a grand jury; or from facts developed and reported by an investigating committee of the House.
Note that its up to a state's legislature, not its govenor. So New Mexico (and other states considering their own resolutions) do have a leg to stand on.
LaoSexMachine
03-03-2007, 10:54 PM
Not quite. The rules of the House of Reps laid down by Thomas Jefferson allow several ways to impeach (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jefferson%27s_Manual) an official. The specific rule itself says:
Note that its up to a state's legislature, not its govenor. So New Mexico (and other states considering their own resolutions) do have a leg to stand on.
One state. Not even close.
Midav
03-03-2007, 10:57 PM
Not quite. The rules of the House of Reps laid down by Thomas Jefferson allow several ways to impeach (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jefferson%27s_Manual) an official. The specific rule itself says:
Note that its up to a state's legislature, not its govenor. So New Mexico (and other states considering their own resolutions) do have a leg to stand on.
If they're not drunk or involved in a DUI, I would agree.
Gosh I am funny. Sometimes I just kill myself. Okay, not literally... I wouldn't want some posters getting too excited now.
Back to New Mexico *snicker*
ElHombre
03-03-2007, 11:07 PM
Everyone should realize there is going to be an election in about one and a half years. Pay attention to who you vote for, and if the wrong person gets elected don't bellyache about it!
Bush and Cheney may be out of office in a couple of years but the rules state that they can still be impeached. The punishment if convicted can range from being forbidden to hold either/or elected or appointed office to forfiture of their retirement packages. Such as those extremely cozy pensions and free offices. Imagine Bush trying to spend the rest of his life having to work for a living without being able to depend on Daddy's friends to bail him out of his latest failure (which is pretty much the story of his life in one sentence).
LaoSexMachine
03-03-2007, 11:08 PM
Bush and Cheney may be out of office in a couple of years but the rules state that they can still be impeached. The punishment can range from being forbidden to hold either/or elected or appointed office to forfiture of their retirement packages. Such as those extremely cozy pensions and free offices. Imagine Bush trying to spend the rest of his life having to work for a living without being able to depend on Daddy's friends to bail him out of his latest failure (which is pretty much the story of his life in one sentence).
Don't they have to be convicted after impeachemnt?
ElHombre
03-03-2007, 11:15 PM
Don't they have to be convicted after impeachemnt?
Fixed. Thanks for the catch. :lol:
chuckster
03-03-2007, 11:59 PM
Bush and Cheney may be out of office in a couple of years but the rules state that they can still be impeached. The punishment if convicted can range from being forbidden to hold either/or elected or appointed office to forfiture of their retirement packages. Such as those extremely cozy pensions and free offices. Imagine Bush trying to spend the rest of his life having to work for a living without being able to depend on Daddy's friends to bail him out of his latest failure (which is pretty much the story of his life in one sentence).
The Pres will make millions in speaking engagements. His retirement pay is pocket change!
ElHombre
03-04-2007, 01:47 AM
The Pres will make millions in speaking engagements. His retirement pay is pocket change!
:lol: Who'd want to pay to hear Shrub speak? :lol:
Klatuu
03-04-2007, 07:37 AM
... Such as those extremely cozy pensions and free offices. Imagine Bush trying to spend the rest of his life having to work for a living without being able to depend on Daddy's friends to bail him out of his latest failure (which is pretty much the story of his life in one sentence).
W's net worth before he took office in 2000 was widely reported as around $30 million. I don't think your analysis that any loss of a pension will affect him is worth much.
Given his previous wealth, and the de rigeur moonbat postion that Iraq was some type of remunerative venture, why would that even begin to touch him?
Seriously, if we're going to be superstitious and hysterical, let's at least be consistent. If Bush is a monster who is willing to sacrifice the blood of his countrymen for his own personal gain (not to mention planning and executing 9/11), as many publicly "educated" people seem to believe, in what possible way could he give a happy goddamn about being impeached and loosing his pension?
Won't he just laugh while smoking cigars made from the skin of children, drinking the blood of baby seals, and eating the still-beating hearts of whales? (And not just any whales, but the really, really cute ones)
exarmyguard
03-04-2007, 07:46 AM
The Pres will make millions in speaking engagements. His retirement pay is pocket change!
I would like to meet the person who would spend their hard earned to money to hear that guy mumble for 2 hours.
Ritual
03-04-2007, 01:05 PM
New Mexico sucks =(, especially here in Las Cruces.
Then again, Houston has more people living in it than all of NM. rofl
Notlim
03-04-2007, 04:50 PM
At rally, he says there's never been a better case for impeachment
By Heather May
The Salt Lake Tribune
Article Last Updated: 03/02/2007 07:09:38 AM MST
Salt Lake City Mayor Rocky Anderson speaks at a rally,.
OLYMPIA, Wash. - This capital gave Salt Lake City Mayor Rocky Anderson a platform he never would be afforded on his home turf: excoriating the U.S. president before state lawmakers.
On Thursday, at a rally and before a Washington state Senate panel, Anderson called on Congress to restore the country's moral standing and commitment to democracy by ousting President Bush.
"Never before has there been such a compelling case for impeachment and removal from office of the President of the United States," Anderson told Democratic members of a Senate Government Operations and Elections Committee, while ticking off a list of alleged Bush offenses, from violating human rights to undercutting the Constitution"
complete article at the link below!
This memorial is not directly about the war. In fact, it's not even directly about impeachment. It's about getting answers," said state Sen. Eric Oemig, D-Kirkland, who sponsored the resolution.
"It's a petition to Congress asking them to do a legitimate, real, serious investigation," he added.
Sen. Oemig's resolution is just an example of several other impeachment resolutions against Bush prepared by the state legislatures across the U.S. including California, Illinois, Minnesota and New Mexico.
so i bush time in the fast lane is fast ending!
http://www.sltrib.com/news/ci_5338136
BloodyTalon
03-04-2007, 05:35 PM
^^
Once again, all talk and zero authority on the matter. Thank you for playing "US Government 101"
*Insert .50 to continue*
dangerclose
03-04-2007, 07:31 PM
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4529463175813468205&hl=en
NM senate rules 5/0 to impeach bush!
well what are the options for the Bush administration? will it stick?
lol ...... the white house is scrambling I'm sure.
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