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mustamato
04-26-2004, 11:55 AM
http://www.dn.se/content/1/c6/25/89/60/storflagga.jpg

The white = peace
The two blue lines = Tigris and Eufrat
The yellow line = The Kurds

Has been approved and adopted. And will as soon as possible be used as well.

Pille1234
04-26-2004, 12:03 PM
That's a joke, right?

Uninen
04-26-2004, 12:05 PM
New flag, are they out of their friggin minds? :cantbeli:

mustamato
04-26-2004, 12:07 PM
The old flag represented "pan-arabic nationalism" the occupation forces say,
so well, the exile Iraqis in the government has adopted this now. Will be interesting
to see how the ordinary Iraqis react to this. But one thing is for sure, that flag is
ugly. Very ugly.

cut
04-26-2004, 12:13 PM
:cantbeli:

hmm blue and white....like.. Greece (hates Turks) and Israel ( not exactly) chummy with the arab world.

replace blue with green and it might work.

cut
04-26-2004, 12:17 PM
I just found out why they chose that one, this was the alternative

http://www.boycottusa.org/images/flags/new_iraq_flag.jpg


j/k

Uninen
04-26-2004, 12:20 PM
http://cod****.com/iraq-flag-new-big.jpg

:lol:

cut
04-26-2004, 12:24 PM
http://www.sideburns.co.uk/extra/iraq/new_iraqi_flag.jpg

p-)

cut
04-26-2004, 12:25 PM
http://web1.ami-admin.com/perl/trackimage.pl?I=50384&H=weeklyworldnews%2Ecom&Image=http%3A%2F%2Fweb1%2Eami%2Dadmin%2Ecom%2Fimages%2F43286%2Egif

Argo AdAm
04-26-2004, 12:32 PM
:cantbeli:
Looks like someone has lost his mind.
If it's not a joke then this ignoramus will be responsible for death of many coalition soldiers... :(

MolliG
04-26-2004, 12:37 PM
Why don't they just go back to the pre-Saddam changes flag (No text just stars.)? Wouldn't cause as much trouble and aggro as this one could very likely create. :|

HELEX
04-26-2004, 12:40 PM
These Kurdish yellow line... :cantbeli:

What was the intention of the Artists, to make a Flagg that pisses of the most Iraqis? :roll:

Threelions
04-26-2004, 12:41 PM
that new flag is horrid! I think they should wait untill there is a full iragi government before they do things like this.

Cheers

Mr Gently Benevolent
04-26-2004, 01:00 PM
I think that the yellow stripe will have to come out at some time in the near future when the Kurds declare autonomy.

Pille1234
04-26-2004, 01:01 PM
pls can someone tell me is this serious? Is there someone important or with influence seriously talking about changing the Iraqi flag?

HELEX
04-26-2004, 01:03 PM
I think that the yellow stripe will have to come out at some time in the near future when the Kurds declare autonomy.

Sure, declaration of Independence on Iraqi Territory. Just read the manual on "How to start a Jihad in 3 easy steps"?

talib_killa34
04-26-2004, 01:11 PM
This is a joke.

Like "Comical Ali" used to say:


"They are sick in their minds, don't believe them!"


Right on, Bob.
p-)

M_S
04-26-2004, 01:45 PM
About time the kurds get autonomy, they should get the same in turkey, iran and syria.

In Turkey people are in prison for talking kurdish, in Syria they have no citizenship(damn arabs moving in in 7:th century while kurds have been living there for a couple tousand years)

mustamato
04-26-2004, 01:46 PM
About time the kurds get autonomy, they should get the same in turkey, iran and syria.

In Turkey people are in prison for talking kurdish, in Syria they have no citizenship(damn arabs moving in in 7:th century while kurds have been living there for a couple tousand years)

The Indians in US will get a state of their own before the Kurds will get one.

He219
04-26-2004, 01:50 PM
About time the kurds get autonomy, they should get the same in turkey, iran and syria.

In Turkey people are in prison for talking kurdish, in Syria they have no citizenship(damn arabs moving in in 7:th century while kurds have been living there for a couple tousand years)

The Indians in US will get a state of their own before the Kurds will get one.

We call them reservations (http://www.fema.gov/tribal/indian_reserv.shtm), mustamato.

;)


I'm afraid the flag is for real:

The new Iraqi flag is seen after members of the Iraqi Governing Council (IGC) choose a new flag and emblem for Iraq representing the country's ethnic and Islamic nature, in Baghdad, Iraq, Monday, 26 April, 2004.

talib_killa34
04-26-2004, 02:03 PM
The new Iraqi flag is seen after members of the Iraqi Governing Council (IGC) choose a new flag and emblem for Iraq representing the country's ethnic and Islamic nature, in Baghdad, Iraq, Monday, 26 April, 2004.

Dude, that is just so sad!

How PC can they get?

At least put a decent color scheme on it!

I know there are worse flags out there but... :lol:

Pille1234
04-26-2004, 02:15 PM
I'm afraid the flag is for real:

The new Iraqi flag is seen after members of the Iraqi Governing Council (IGC) choose a new flag and emblem for Iraq representing the country's ethnic and Islamic nature, in Baghdad, Iraq, Monday, 26 April, 2004.
If that becomes true, I promise the old Iraqi flag becomes a popular symbol of resistence, fueling anti-coalition feelings and uniting iraqis under the old flag in their fight against occupation. But hey, it's just me predicting

Uninen
04-26-2004, 02:47 PM
This is a joke.

Like "Comical Ali" used to say:


"They are sick in their minds, don't believe them!"


Right on, Bob.
p-)


"Our initial assessment is that they will all die"


"because we will behead you all"


"Let the American infidels bask in their illusion"


Of US troops: "They are most welcome. We will butcher them."


"Our estimates are that none of them will come out alive unless they surrender to us quickly."


"We will slaughter them, Bush Jr. and his international gang of bastards!"


"They are sick in their minds. They say they brought 65 tanks into center
of city. I say to you this talk is not true. This is part of their sick mind."


"W. Bush, this man is a war criminal, and we will see
that he is brought to trial"

rofl

http://www.welovetheiraqiinformationminister.com/

Operation Ivy
04-26-2004, 02:54 PM
flag sucks

Midav
04-26-2004, 02:55 PM
Indeed, it does.

usa320
04-26-2004, 03:16 PM
It blows. They should have used the pre-saddam flag, but the Iraqis chose it, and yall need to recognize that.

yiorgo
04-26-2004, 03:17 PM
hmm blue and white....like.. Greece (hates Turks) and Israel ( not exactly) chummy with the arab world.

replace blue with green and it might work.


what the hell does the relationship between greece and turkey have to do with the new flag of iraq?

Lysander
04-26-2004, 03:28 PM
Why are the Kurds the only group represented? :roll: :|

I don't think that this new flag is a good idea. If it is adopted, it will probably lead to more bloodshed not only between Iraqis and the coalition, but among the Iraqis also.

Abolith
04-26-2004, 03:32 PM
GaH! that is one nasty looking flag...

Navy
04-26-2004, 04:08 PM
Wow, i think its great looking. Its like the combined flags of sweden and finland (minus the cresent).

Blue, white and yellow!

cut
04-26-2004, 04:15 PM
Iraqis see it exactly like I predicted;


"When I saw it in the newspaper, I felt very sad," said Muthana Khalil, 50, a supermarket owner in Saadoun, a commercial area in central Baghdad. "The flags of other Arab countries are red and green and black. Why did they put in these colors that are the same as Israel? Why was the public opinion not consulted?"


Other residents objected to the removal of the phrase, "God is greatest," which adorned the previous national flag, and said there was no need for a new one until national elections are held next January and a new constitution is written


source (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A43438-2004Apr26.html)


The blue crescent makes obvious the western control of the country, al other crescents in flags are green, red or white. Traditional muslim coulours are black, red and green. Yellow and blue just don't fit.

HELEX
04-26-2004, 04:31 PM
Thats funny, same colors as Israel. That adds some extra stupidy to that decision.... :cantbeli:

Are you sure the Goverment council isnt actively working against the US? :lol:

MaDuce
04-26-2004, 06:44 PM
They need to hire a fasionable gay guy.

cut
04-26-2004, 07:04 PM
They need to hire a fasionable gay guy.

that only works in the west I'm ashamed to say :(

mocking_loudly_died
04-26-2004, 07:34 PM
They need a big f*ck off shiny skull on it, with a catchy motto like "our country loves ****s!".

Falco
04-26-2004, 07:36 PM
They need a big f*ck off shiny skull on it, with a catchy motto like "our country loves ****s!".


woot

Skullknight
04-26-2004, 08:29 PM
I'm hoping that's the real flag, because it looks pretty darn cool.

talib_killa34
04-26-2004, 11:10 PM
Other residents objected to the removal of the phrase, "God is greatest," which adorned the previous national flag

Yeah, :roll: of course they would object to that....

Romulus
04-26-2004, 11:31 PM
I guess they changed it from the one they were going to go with?........

http://www.rtgstore.com/rtg/b-501big.jpg

American Patriot
04-26-2004, 11:36 PM
Remember this came from the Iraqis, not us. Fags :lol:

seruriermarshal
04-26-2004, 11:54 PM
I guess they changed it from the one they were going to go with?........

http://www.rtgstore.com/rtg/b-501big.jpg

rofl rofl rofl

SFontaine
04-26-2004, 11:55 PM
At least it's original not like the three color bar schemes that tons of countries have.

stuntman
04-26-2004, 11:56 PM
http://www.dn.se/content/1/c6/25/89/60/storflagga.jpg
Finally a flag worth burning! lol The yellow part will definetly be a problem.

MolliG
04-27-2004, 05:50 AM
A new flag for the Iraqis made by me...

http://img9.imageshack.us/img9/2262/irflag.jpg

The old three equal horizontal bands of red, white, and black, plus the Allahu Akbar in green are still there, but only one star which represents the whole of Iraq and it's people as one, with a yellow star in the middle as not to upset the Kurds.

:)

mocking_loudly_died
04-27-2004, 06:05 AM
http://www.killingsheep.com/images/avaters/****town.jpg

FinnishMF
04-27-2004, 06:25 AM
The best one so far..

http://cod****.com/iraq-flag-new-big.jpg

IDFM203
04-27-2004, 10:15 AM
Iraqis see it exactly like I predicted;


"When I saw it in the newspaper, I felt very sad," said Muthana Khalil, 50, a supermarket owner in Saadoun, a commercial area in central Baghdad. "The flags of other Arab countries are red and green and black. Why did they put in these colors that are the same as Israel? Why was the public opinion not consulted?"

hahaha rofl rofl

First of all last I checked, there is no yellow in the Israeli flag :roll:

Secondly I know they (and some others here................well ok perhaps we do, just check my location ;) ) think Israel controls everything but gees us havening control over the color blue and white is a new one.

I didnt realize before that the color blue and the color white are solely “Zionist” colors :roll:

Oh wait didn’t the old Iraqi flag have white in it....hmmm I guess Iraq was really another "Zionist" controled entity ;) :roll:

Shalom :D

cut
04-27-2004, 01:04 PM
Remember this came from the Iraqis, not us. Fags :lol:

american puppet iraqis you mean.



The current flag is all what we know and have known all our lives, it cannot be changed just like that, I agree with those who say , it should not be changed yet, until we have a free elected government and parliament, and Iraq is Free from foreign occupation. Changing the Flag now, might see us changing it once again, once the occupation ends.
Ali Hamoudi, Iraqi in London

Clearly, this flag indicates that we are now dealing with a new Iraq. This flag represents all the coalition wants in the country, unity. Maybe people will now see the coalition is not at war with Islam but with people against unity, democracy and peace.
S. Winfield, Toronto, CA

Resemblance to the Israeli flag is striking. Two blue stripes, and a religious blue logo.
Hazem, Egypt

I find the crescent extremely ugly. But also mixing Kurds, Islam and two rivers is a stupid idea. But this flag would be more beautiful if it was divided into two parts. The above part for the Shi'as and the lower part for the Kurds.
Alan Barxawani, Hawler, Iraq


No. We don't need cosmetic gestures. We need occupation forces to go away from the country and we need representative of people to come forward and restore law and order .
Ahmad Saleem, Baghdad

In my opinion the Iraqi flag should not be changed without asking the Iraqi people. It is undemocratic to do so. Nobody has the right to impose anything on the Iraqis until they elect their own government. We have no problem with our flag as it is. Changing it is a desperate attempt to separate us from our brothers and sisters in the Arab world. Millions of Iraqi people like me are proud of our flag - red, white and black with three green stars. It represents our pan-Arab identity. Our flag had flown for more than 40 years and it has nothing to do with the previous regime. I will be very sad if what so called the new flag will be imposed on us and I will never regard it as part of my identity.
Alia Salim, Basra Iraq

I think the so-called "governing council" has no right whatsoever to change the flag of Iraq. They are not a legitimate government and their decision would not be accepted by most Iraqis. The "governing council" should worry more about solving Iraq's problems and taking care of its people at this difficult time.
Ala' Al-Tamimi, Basra - Iraq

I am quite disgusted. That flag has been around a long time and is still a pride to the nation itself. It sounds ridiculous to change the flag, because 'they want a new fresh start' and get rid of a flag that stands for the people and not for Saddam himself. After all there are many more important issues to be dealt with and the Iraqi people are certainly not ready for another big blow in their face. The Germans didn't change their flag when WWII ended to signify a new start why should we?
Ani Iraqi/Leeds



The Iraqi flag must change if we are to advance to a new era combining all the Iraqis and their efforts to rebuild the cradle of civilization. However, an elected government is better placed to tackle the flag issue rather than an unelected governing council. I also believe the Iraqi people should have their say at least through debates and the people in charge should consider more designs over a longer period of time.
Ghalib Ahmed Mahmood, Baghdad-Iraq

I support the new flag.
Aziz Rafah, Najaf, Iraq

First of all, I think the Iraqi flag existed before Saddam (he only added a few things on it, I believe). Secondly, it is not the moment to set up a new flag when this country has got more important problems to solve at the moment. Such decisions should be made by a legal and voted government anyway, and that is not the case at the moment. What Iraq needs is not a new flag but a democracy which will put an end to this illegal occupation.
Rafa, London, England

Should not be approved until elected members decide in parliament
Riaz, Baghdad

Should not be approved by forces which the majority of the people think are occupation forces. It should be delayed till elected members decide.
Riaz, Baghdad



As an Iraqi American, I am quite disheartened to hear of the change of the Iraqi flag. The colours red, white, black and green connect Iraq with the flags of its Arab brethren. Even though this flag flew under Saddam's regime, a country should not shy away or be ashamed of its past. The devastation that my country faced under Saddam will only make it stronger and the original flag should remain as part of Iraq's national history forever.
Tala, Baltimore, Iraq/USA

This should be decided by the people of Iraq and not by Foreign Armed forces or their elected people. Will Americans or British accept the same for their country? Please address the more serious issues and not waste time on these
Riazullah Azmat, Baghdad

I believe its one of the most successful decisions that is made by the IGC. As a Kurd, I like the idea and it's such a nice feeling when I see the flag representing all the Iraqis equally. I also have to say that the old flag is a reminder of all the dark days of ruling Iraq by Saddam Hussein.
Saman Ahmed, London - UK

No Iraq should not change the national flag that has been there before Saddam came to power so why change it? Plus it means a lot to all the Iraqis and to all the Arabs. I think the flag should stay as it is right now.
Abdullah Amir Ali, London, UK

While I agree that there are more important issue to concentrate on and that a new flag should be voted on by an elected body, I support the change to the new flag. The old flag, like Saddam, represented a very dark and very bloody period in Iraq's recent history.
Fawaz Saraf, USA (Iraqi American)

It is not the right for the American government to change the flag of the Iraqi people as it would only be accepted by the puppets who the Americans have got "running Iraq" at the moment. Maybe the Americans should concentrate more on bringing peace and stability to Iraq before making any other decisions and leave the changing of the flag to the Iraqi people if they want to change it .
Ali Ibn Khalil, Scotland, UK

The new flag is much better then the old one, but in my opinion there should bee a much more representative symbol of Kurdish people and Kurdistan in the new flag.
Delshad, Zaxo-Kurdistan-Irag



I believe what America is doing is great for us. It is very sad to see that there are people in Iraq who are still brain washed to continue anti-US rebellion. The country should be renamed "New Iraq" symbolizing a new era for our country and the end of Saddam Hussein era. I thank God for this so I must say the God is great quote should not be removed. I also believe it would be great to put the words freedom in our flag symbolizing freedom from dictatorships. God Bless America for saving us please forgive us who are ignorant and resist US help.
Muhammed Alzer, Baghdad Iraq


IGC (The Puppets) are doing what they are asked to do by Mr.Bremer. The Kurds are saying "we are Kurds before we are Iraqis" so why having them in our flag?. It is not Chalabi or Rubaie that can decide the symbol of our land - they know New York and London better than Baghdad. They are not Iraqis.
Zidane Sinjarie, Mosul, Iraq


I am sincerely disappointed but not surprised by this premature action taken by the unelected governing council. The national colours of a country is something that the whole population should decide upon and not those few appointed by one country. It is the people's flag and not their flag. This matter should be decided upon by a new Iraqi parliament, a body that truly represents the Iraqi people!
Amir Moustafa, Egypt

I don't mind changing the Iraqi flag, though that doesn't really seem a priority. But the design that now has been chosen has something wrong with it when it comes to the beauty of the design - it has no artistic feeling at all.
Sameer al Hassan, Karbala, Iraq

The flag represent real Iraq of its two rivers and as an Islamic Country. We Iraqis, whether Muslims or otherwise, enjoy the romantic scenery of the crescent reflecting its lights on Tigris or Euphrates.
Yaqthan Kamil, Baghdad-Iraq

No I think its not a true democracy if the opinion of majority whom do not like the new flag is not taken into account and a decision to implement this new flag is wrongfully taken!
Maqsooda Faree, Baghdad Iraq

I am an Iraqi exile having left Iraq over 25 years ago, I was hoping of going back, but after the troubles I decided to wait. If the new flag is approved I will never go back. I would love to meet the 25p an hour designer they used to come up with such a design, or was the designer a £1000 hour, because his father is a close friend of Mr. Bush's second cousin?
Zaid El-Hamdoon, London, UK

The concept of a new flag looks wonderful, however, I think it should be voted on. As a Muslim, I like the crescent on the flag, but what about everyone in Iraq who is not Muslim? I think a better approach would be to keep the colours and not have the crescent, or if there is a crescent, add other symbols to include the other faiths in Iraq, both past and today.
Omar S, Iraq/USA

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/3660663.stm

XASA
04-27-2004, 01:31 PM
The quotes posted by Cut are hilarious. Reading them you would think the Iraqis won the war. ;)

I would have to concur that the new flag wasn't a good public relations move, but a new flag is the least of Iraq's worries.

Also, can anyone name any other country in history that is as benevolent after a war as the United States? Whatever flag that will fly above Iraq it won't be an American one.

Mr Gently Benevolent
04-27-2004, 01:36 PM
Also, can anyone name any other country in history that is as benevolent after a war as the United States?
The United Kingdom springs too mind.

cut
04-27-2004, 01:48 PM
The quotes posted by Cut are hilarious. Reading them you would think the Iraqis won the war. ;)

I would have to concur that the new flag wasn't a good public relations move, but a new flag is the least of Iraq's worries.

Also, can anyone name any other country in history that is as benevolent after a war as the United States? Whatever flag that will fly above Iraq it won't be an American one.

Iraqis did win the war, according to George Bush, Saddam lost it. Are you suggesting otherwise? ;)

talib_killa34
04-27-2004, 01:54 PM
A new flag for the Iraqis made by me...

http://img9.imageshack.us/img9/2262/irflag.jpg

The old three equal horizontal bands of red, white, and black, plus the Allahu Akbar in green are still there, but only one star which represents the whole of Iraq and it's people as one, with a yellow star in the middle as not to upset the Kurds.

:)

Good design! ;)