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Calanen
03-04-2007, 07:32 PM
http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2007/03/04/1172943275784.html?page=2

MAJOR MICHAEL MORI, the defence lawyer for David Hicks, could be removed from the case after threats from the chief US prosecutor, Colonel Morris Davis, to charge him under the Uniform Code of Military Justice.

The intervention may derail Hicks's trial, and possibly prompt his return to Australia. It would take months for a new lawyer to get to grips with the case and the new military commission process.

The Prime Minister, John Howard, has told the US that any action leading to further delays would be unacceptable and would prompt him to demand the return of Hicks, 31, after five years in Guantanamo Bay.
Colonel Davis has accused Major Mori of breaching Article 88 of the US military code, which relates to using contemptuous language towards the president, vice-president, and secretary of defence. Penalties for breaching the code include jail and the loss of employment and entitlements.

Major Mori denied he had done anything improper but said the accusations left him with an inherent conflict of interest.

"It can't help but raise an issue of whether any further representation of David and his wellbeing could be tainted by a concern for my own legal wellbeing," Major Mori told the Herald. "David Hicks needs counsel who is not tainted by these allegations."

Major Mori, who has been to Australia seven times, will seek legal advice. The issue will also have to be raised with Hicks when his legal team next sees him.

Indeed the Federal Government has highlighted Major Mori's work as proof of the fairness of the much-criticised US military commission system.

However, Colonel Davis said Major Mori was not playing by the rules and criticised his regular trips to Australia. He said he would not tolerate such behaviour from his own prosecutors.

"Certainly, in the US it would not be tolerated having a US marine in uniform actively inserting himself into the political process. It is very disappointing," he told The Australian. "He doesn't seem to be held to the same standards as his brother officers."

Hicks's lead defence counsel, Joshua Dratel, a New York lawyer, said Colonel Davis's threats were only the latest example of the "corrupt" system under which Hicks would be tried.

He pointed to the former senior Pentagon official in charge of detainee affairs, Cully Stimson, who resigned last month after urging businesses not to hire law firms that had worked for Guantanamo Bay prisoners.
US prosecutors are under intense pressure to offer Hicks, a former kangaroo skinner and father of two, a plea bargain deal by the end of the month.

Senior Australian government members want Hicks to come home a free man, provided he agrees to a pretrial plea of guilty.
Amid rising public anger in Australia about Hicks's long wait for justice and alleged mistreatment, any Hicks trial - he is to be the first person to appear before a military commission - risks becoming a public relations disaster.

The world's media will be focused on the case, including Al Jazeera and other Middle Eastern outlets. They will hear graphic testimony of abuses and torture by US guards and interrogators, and it will involve a man, Hicks, whose alleged offence pales alongside the serious accusations made against alleged senior Al-Qaeda leaders in Guantanamo Bay.

Prosecutors have decided not to press ahead with three charges against Hicks - attempted murder, aiding the enemy and conspiracy to commit war crimes.

There is now only the lesser charge of providing material support to a terrorist group. That charge is retrospective, since it did not exist for non-US citizens when Hicks was arrested.

US prosecutors are under intense pressure to offer Hicks, a former kangaroo skinner and father of two, a plea bargain deal by the end of the month.

Senior Australian government members want Hicks to come home a free man, provided he agrees to a pretrial plea of guilty.

Amid rising public anger in Australia about Hicks's long wait for justice and alleged mistreatment, any Hicks trial - he is to be the first person to appear before a military commission - risks becoming a public relations disaster.

The world's media will be focused on the case, including Al Jazeera and other Middle Eastern outlets. They will hear graphic testimony of abuses and torture by US guards and interrogators, and it will involve a man, Hicks, whose alleged offence pales alongside the serious accusations made against alleged senior Al-Qaeda leaders in Guantanamo Bay.

Violet Fashion by Mindy
03-05-2007, 07:17 AM
Well there can never be any doubt now that Mori is doing his utmost to defend Hicks.

But this whole process is becoming nothing more then a farce.

Calanen
03-05-2007, 08:52 AM
They need to lay off Major Mori, he gives them way more street cred than they would have otherwise.

Calanen
03-05-2007, 08:56 AM
There are now new articles about with the Prosecutor saying he did not really mean it...I smell a backpedal..

Durandal
03-05-2007, 12:10 PM
More evidence proving that American "justice" is a farce.

I think this about as un-American as it gets.

Jobu
03-05-2007, 12:24 PM
Foreigner jihadi who trained in Al qaeda camps and is caught in the warzone?

Why even have a trial? Is this the lawsuit on terror?

Durandal
03-05-2007, 12:28 PM
Foreigner jihadi who trained in Al qaeda camps and is caught in the warzone?

Why even have a trial? Is this the lawsuit on terror?

Just don't bitch when Mr. Innocent American gets caught by some illiterate member of a military unit in some 3rd world nation, put in jail for years, and never given a trial or due process.

Jobu
03-05-2007, 12:33 PM
Just don't bitch when Mr. Innocent American gets caught some illiterate member of 3rd world nation, put in jail for years and never given a trial or due process.

You equate some idiot tourist being jailed in a 3rd world country with a jihadi being caught in the warzone?

Sorry, your argument fails.

Durandal
03-05-2007, 02:19 PM
You equate some idiot tourist being jailed in a 3rd world country with a jihadi being caught in the warzone?

Sorry, your argument fails.

According to our own President,the war on terror is everywhere. The entire planet is a front line.

That is not the point though.

I'm not talking about a tourist. Just a contractor, someone who is out there, outside the U.S. working hard for money, doing a non-military job. You going to call "foul" when some militia type picks them up and claims they are a spy or covert operator and sticks them in a deep dark hole some where, never to see the light of day, never knowing if they are going to see their family again, subject to all sorts of cruel, but non-life threatening treatment?

I mean, Mr. Jobu, you have no clue whether they are or are not a contractor.

We've already seen dozens released after SEVERAL YEARS of illegal imprisonment let go by the U.S. government all in the name of keeping the U.S. safe...why not others as well?

Or we could do this little ditty, go in a completely different direction...

You gave money to the Christian Coalition? The same group that has a sub faction of more or less unrelated folks bombing clinics and shooting doctors? Then you are obviously, at least, a material supporter of terrorism, maybe even a terrorist outright. Off to a locked room in a deep dark with you!

You give money to PETA? Off to a deep dark hole!

You give money to the NRA? Screw the courts you got no such right.

You start walking a road man, you don't stop, you just keep on going. Once we get the population used to "islamic looking types" then who is next?

Or do you honestly believe that can never happen?

Jobu
03-05-2007, 02:29 PM
I believe you are playing a slippery slope argument which does not hold up.

The Australian jihadi was not mistaken for some guy who donated to a Muslim charity. He attended Al Qaeda training camps and was caught in the warzone.

That's all we need to know in my opinion. His detention, and that of the others is fine by me. I don't buy the whole "illegal detention" spin because I believe we are in a war, not a criminal prosecution. I don't believe we're obliged to give enemy combatants in war the same rights as a common criminal.

Durandal
03-05-2007, 02:37 PM
I believe you are playing a slippery slope argument which does not hold up.

The Australian jihadi was not mistaken for some guy who donated to a Muslim charity. He attended Al Qaeda training camps and was caught in the warzone.

That's all we need to know in my opinion. His detention, and that of the others is fine by me. I don't buy the whole "illegal detention" spin because I believe we are in a war, not a criminal prosecution. I don't believe we're obliged to give enemy combatants in war the same rights as a common criminal.

So what about the people that have been under arrest that are innocent?

Are the simply a sacrifice so a couple Pakistani officers can have some more income? Which ironically will probably show up in some AQ coffer?

Ahhh, to be in a Black and White world such as yours...