what fieldgear do you wear?

[cavtroop4]

hey, i'm just curious what others are wearing out in the field (if your currently active in the service). i get issued the regular alice gear but ditch them in a heatbeat out in the field and wear a tactical tailor mav 2 vest and a blackhawk leg drop holster. i wear it since i'm in a vehicle alot and everything is up close and accesible. anyone else wear something different? and why? i would like to get some feedbacks for different gears out there. thanks

[Dalleer]

Don't expect to get the views or thoughts of a "real soldier" from me since I'm as far as it gets I'm the perfect example of a "weekend warrior" you can find.

Anyway, here's some of the stuff that I've used while being out there in the wilderness:

http://www.varusteleka.fi/varusteet/mp_taisteluliivi_pieni.jpg

MP-vest (MP does not mean military-police, but the store that sells em') is a pretty high-priced modular vest that is normally sold to the Finnish reservists and all. Surely there are better ones out there, but this thing has performed all well for my needs at the moment

http://www.varusteleka.fi/kauppa/tuotteet/us-lc2set.jpg

You all know what this is. I've got all of the pouches and the buttpack installed on my model though, so this thing is certainly a very nice one in my opinion.

http://www.wephaus.com/graphics/013651.jpg

One of my basic pieces of equipment, the Bundeswehr backpack. You can fit alot of stuff inside it, and it's very hard to break apart too.

[Marsuitor]

I'm not active service at the moment, but we were issued these two years ago:
http://www.mamut.com/homepages/Norway/1/18/nfm//cv2_front.jpg

It's a modular thing, but unfortunately it's crap. It's still issued today, but this is taking over in the well-stocked units:
http://www.mamut.com/homepages/Norway/1/18/nfm//strv_spesial_front.jpg
This would be a version with non-removable pouches. It's made in three versions, a 7.62 version, a 5.56 version and a Minimi version. Haven't tried it yet, so i can't comment on performance.

Depending on the unit you're serving in and your squad/platoon commander, you might be allowed to use personal stuff. I was lucky enough to be granted permission to use one of these:
http://www.isayeret.com/vest/v6.jpg
It's the Israeli recon vest, and lightyears ahead of anything Norwegian, or any other LBE for that sake, i've tried.

[Ngati Tumatauenga]

South African M-83 assault vest with a few modifications.

[TacoDelRio]

I didn't like the ALICE I wore in the Army, and switched to MOLLE when I got out. Funny thing, now I switched back to a combo of both. :D

MOLLE is good, but I'm tired of ALICE clips. Can't find any MALICE clips, probably gonna use zip-ties. Anyone got any good experiences involving zip-tied-on pouches? If it works, I've got about 42 ALICE clips to sell! rofl

DB p-)

[Jack Mehoff]

http://img21.photobucket.com/albums/v63/NastyBurger/lbe2.jpg

[shrek]

MOLLE vest backwards (picked this up from some 2/75th guys) works great when you spend a lot of time in vehicles. Still like my old ALICE stuff on long halls without my ballistic vest. Actually have some SPEARs stuff attached to my MOLLE vest so it's a real hodge podge. Whatever works and your command will let you wear, in our case, anything that works!!

I'm sort of a seamstress at heart. Go ahead,s ay something. My nickname in Afgh was sew sew bitch!! So, if I didn't have it, I made it!!

[digrar]

SADF M83. Swaped the velcro for clips.

[ßå$tĮТHÏ¿ð]

Grad-1 Assault vest (Russian) with the Russian Belt taken out and replaced with the LCE2 belt.
Rhodesian Tac Vest m83 (black, South African)
Tigerstripe boonie, bandana, headwrap, and BDU's

Not a soldier...but thats what I have

[cavtroop4]

Depending on the unit you're serving in and your squad/platoon commander, you might be allowed to use personal stuff. I was lucky enough to be granted permission to use one of these:
http://www.isayeret.com/vest/v6.jpg
It's the Israeli recon vest, and lightyears ahead of anything Norwegian, or any other LBE for that sake, i've tried.[/quote]

i'm curious about the israeli vest. where can i get more info on it?

[shrek]

I LIKE THAT VEST cavtroop4!!!


That is sweet, will it hold 30rd M-4 mags? like the knife location as well!!

[Bootneck]

Israeli Assaul Vest - http://www.assaultvest.com/

Some interesting info about Israeli vests is also available at http://www.isayeret.com/vest/guide.htm.

[cavtroop4]

actually, i was looking for any info on the vest.
but thanks to bootneck, got some info. thanks!

[Zentrum Jagdkampf]

Blackhawk Omega IV Assault Holster, Blackhawk Omega Tactical Vest or Eagle Tac 1-VN Tactical Vest, Lowe Vector Commando or Samson or Saracen backpack.

[sYn`]

KHS Assault Vest (http://www.khs-products.com/infocenter/CCG_KHS_Assault_Vest.70.0.html)

http://www.khs-products.com/infocenter/uploads/pics/ccg_detail.jpg

[Marsuitor]

Cavtroop,
The Israeli takes ****loads of 5.56, yeah (two M16 type in each front). I stuffed 7.62 mags in it since we're still on the G3 here at home. It took one each in the front pouches, which adds up to standard load for Norwegian infantry (100rds). It also has a builtin knife sheath for a normal type utility knife or bayonet. Not Rambo type stuff...
The real good thing IMO is the material it's made of. The inner parts are padded and provide exceptional weight distribution and comfort. The outside has a cordura or nylon finish. What makes it stand out is tons of small details like lanyard loops on all pockets and bands on the backpack to fasten your helmet when not in use. The backpack is also big enough to carry critical 1st line equipment or a newer RTO unit, so no need for an additional daypack. Also lined canteen pouches to keep the water from not freezing during the cold months. If you'd like some specific details on performance, i'd be happy to answer.
Anyhow, i brought mine from Israel Military (http://www.israelmilitary.com), but you can also get them from Zahal.org (http://www.zahal.org)

Cheers,
Marcus

EDIT,
The photo i posted up is courtesy of Isayeret, which in turn posted courtesy of Assaultvest.com (http://www.assaultvest.com). Their Israelis have a somewhat different finish and provides vests made for specific jobs, eg. Medic, M203 hauler, auto-rifleman or EOD.

[Whisper_44]

I have purchased from http://www.practicaltactical.net/ same company as http://www.assaultvest.com this guy is local in my area, great guy to do business with. Stands behind his stuff too, if you don't like it, he'll do exchanges (within reason), not sure about a refund though.

I purchased a HSG Drop holster from him, never been happier

[Tane Angle]

That Israeli vest is a nice one.

I'm a simple kind of guy.
http://www.allmed.net/catalog/images/items/4559_l.JPG
This is a nice one, though ideally I prefer no pouches.
I have a canvas jacket I like, it has slots for magazines and such in it.

[TacoDelRio]

Bootneck,

Is that a sperm that guy in your avatar is holding up in the air? Did he kill it?
My friend from Hawaii has a bumper sticker of that on his truck, so I'm just messing. rofl

Anywho, putting a MOLLE vest on backwards helps? I haven't had too much trouble with vehicles with my MOLLE on, minus the damned buttpack. I'd rather wear ALICE in a vehicle, since you can detatch the assbag (buttpack) quickly, and then put it back on in a jiffy.

Godd ideas. Any pictures of people with their MOLLE's on backwards?

DB p-)

[ofpeditor]

Paraclete RAV - fantastic piece of gear.

Used the STRIKE harness - was cut up and sewn and modified, but just wasn't happy at ALL with the quality of BHI's workmanship. After a month of some rigorous use, stitching started coming apart. Like I said in a different thread, a Lifetime Warranty doesn't mean sh*t when you're far from anywhere that can patch up your gear if it craps out. Needed more faith in my vest, dropped the $$$ for Paraclete's amazing work. Haven't been happier.

[sethen]

I have a L.B.V 97 tri-desert with camelbak tri-desert...tan belt....2 tri-desert m.o.l.l.e. canteen/utility...kovach clip od....buttpack woodland.

Anywho, putting a MOLLE vest on backwards helps? I haven't had too much trouble with vehicles with my MOLLE on, minus the damned buttpack. I'd rather wear ALICE in a vehicle, since you can detatch the assbag (buttpack) quickly, and then put it back on in a jiffy.

I use the buttpack exclusively to hold my small field pillow. I have terrible lower back pain and it provides INSTANT relief when I am in the field or in a HUMVEE. :D

[TacoDelRio]

Wow, sounds good. My field pillow is just a ziploc H-duty with spare socks!

DB

[Fitzcarraldo]

Bootneck,

Is that a sperm that guy in your avatar is holding up in the air? Did he kill it?
DB p-)

Looks more like a neanderthal with a giant dessert spoon. But thats just me.

[cavtroop4]

hey MrSkorotsnoy, or anyone else interested, i got some info on the molle used backwards on the us army combat load study done in afganistan if your interested let me know and i'll try to post up the study. or if you have access to ako(army knowledge online) its under kcc, combat load study. it tells alot about the good and bad about the molle system in combat. and some pics.


Bootneck,

Is that a sperm that guy in your avatar is holding up in the air? Did he kill it?
My friend from Hawaii has a bumper sticker of that on his truck, so I'm just messing. rofl

Anywho, putting a MOLLE vest on backwards helps? I haven't had too much trouble with vehicles with my MOLLE on, minus the damned buttpack. I'd rather wear ALICE in a vehicle, since you can detatch the assbag (buttpack) quickly, and then put it back on in a jiffy.

Godd ideas. Any pictures of people with their MOLLE's on backwards?

DB p-)

[TacoDelRio]

Roger that, I'll check out my AKO.

Thanks for the help. I just gotta see if it'll work with an Eagle chest rig.

Hooah cavtroop4!

DB p-)

[TacoDelRio]

Yo,

Can't find it on KCC. Which "Group" is it in? I just come up with basic MOS junk, like Logistics, medical, some USAREC stuff, etc.

DB

[The Clip]

Russian 6S92 Universal transport vest. Not a soldier anymore. fits any of the 5.45 chambered AK models.

[shrek]

Most of us who had MOLLE wore it backwards in A-stan. I will try and find some pics of us with our gear on. It's not hard to rig and with a little tweaking can be made to be very quiet. the hardest thing I had to do was to figure out how to attach my combat knife to the vest!

[The Clip]

don't you have pockets??? Or do you like the American way??? Which is attach it next to your neck, when you fall you will literally fall. rofl You should have it on your belt kit for you dominant hand. :bash: same place where I used to have my back up spare mags x4, 5 rounds for GP-30 and makarov mags holster(which was almost always empty) rofl .

[big80a2]

my Getto combat boots:

http://www.mso.ne.jp/snooty's/sneakers_panic/photo_shoes/hp_shoes/sn027_nike_airforce1highlm/sn027_2.jpg
;)

[Demon_Sniper]

Not a soldier (not many 16 year olds are) but I know that a Blackhawk Phoenix Pack works very well for extended periods when deer hunting.And their universal Spec. Op's holster works pretty good too(Can't find many tactical holsters for my Browning Buckmark .22)Their Knee&Elbow pads are excellent for paintball and a buddy of mine uses a SAW gunner vest for carrying his paintballs and stuff when playing.Hydrastorm systems are worth their weight in gold if u ask me.

[Marsuitor]

Btw, i traded this with some Aussie who said he'd been over A-stan some time ago. He told me it was some experimental modular thing they'd used in limited numbers. I got the vest in broken up, and i've fastened the pockets myself with shoelaces.
Can someone tell me if it's in use? Is it standard issue yet?

http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/434_1083334712_aussievest.jpg

[catalyst]

mate i think you may have had the wool pulled over your head....I dont know of an issued webbing like that.

Some units do allow for more 'practical' webbing and gear but as far as my knowledge goes, the only issued webbing for line infantry is the

http://www.army.gov.au/equipment/images/equipment012.jpg

the flak vests are rare issues and hardly seen around outside of top notch regular units.

The aussie army on the other hand seems to be very complacent with the use of non-issue webbing. the good old say of "if it works then u can use it" seems to be the going plan along with "if it breaks dont cry to us about it"!

[Fitzcarraldo]

Btw, i traded this with some Aussie who said he'd been over A-stan some time ago. He told me it was some experimental modular thing they'd used in limited numbers. I got the vest in broken up, and i've fastened the pockets myself with shoelaces.
Can someone tell me if it's in use? Is it standard issue yet?

http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/434_1083334712_aussievest.jpg

http://www.mil-kit-review.com/html/webbing.html

A review with heaps of information on the pictured Australian issue "load vest"

[Marsuitor]

mate i think you may have had the wool pulled over your head...

I'm naturally quite sceptical to people who claim this and that, so i was thinking the same ;)

However,
i saw this photo, and the chap to the left here seems to be carrying the same thing, only in self painted desert pattern.
http://media.militaryphotos.net/photos/albums/gulf_war_2_operation_falconer/aussie13.jpg
Then again, it could be some mainstream thing he's brought from some company, and he then put it forward to me as some "super-hitech special ops vest" he'd got from a tour... Might be worth noting i traded heaps of Aussie kit from him. Including some (used) uniforms, boonies and patches.

[Marsuitor]

Anyhow, point really being i don't really care who i got it from is, he sent over loads of nice aussie kit. Haven't had it tried for real yet, but i'm thinking the conclusion on the review might be true...

[Fitzcarraldo]

Anyhow, point really being i don't really care who i got it from is, he sent over loads of nice aussie kit. Haven't had it tried for real yet, but i'm thinking the conclusion on the review might be true...

Probably, but surely the heat issue wont affect you as much up there [assumption, as I have no idea what the temperature can rise too in Norway].
And the steyr pouch problem wouldnt affect you either, because on the rig you have, you dont seem to have any!
edit: unless those two triangular shaped pouches are Steyr puches with bunched up ends.

just wondering, what other stuff did you score?

[cavtroop4]

Yo,

Can't find it on KCC. Which "Group" is it in? I just come up with basic MOS junk, like Logistics, medical, some USAREC stuff, etc.

DB

i think you need to sign up for knowledge collaboration center (kcc) and it should show on new items on the home page. if not on the top part of the home page where it says home, kcc, about ako, click on kcc and search from there, it should come up. anyway, i 'm curious whats your mos?

[Marsuitor]

just wondering, what other stuff did you score?

Well, apart from the vest, i got some (again) experimental cotton pants. Seems to have been through some stuff. One of those kevlar reinforced armored vehicle suits. Like this:
http://www.defence.gov.au/media/download/2004/mar/260304/JPAU22MAR04DH144_lo.jpg

Also a few patches, two aussie boonies, desert and woodland cammie. Field cap and an aussie ration pack.
Traded him ****loads of Norge stuff for it... But in all, a good catch IMO (aussie stuff is hard to come by here, just as i reckon Norge kit is down there).
I'll see if i can post some pictures up at some point.

The pouches i got for the vest, AFAIK, was two minimi things, three double mag pouches (standard 5.56 i reckon) and a single grenade pouch. As the review states, there is not much room on the vest, so i couldn't fit the nade pouch on it. I set one of the mag pockets up to fit a field dressing in it instead of magazines. In all, i reckon i'll use the vest mostly when playing OPFOR on excercises, as i don't want to repaint it.

Cheers,
Marcus

btw. Temperature ranges here go from around -40C in winter to 30 above in summer. That's inland. Coast is somewhat milder. ;)

[The Clip]

Demon, never knew you 16. OK, I am 20 don my service and with pride. want to be a good soldier then have good fitness and don't be sadistic. It will comeback to you in a form most strange. rofl :bash:

[SiFiOn]

just wondering, what other stuff did you score?

Well, apart from the vest, i got some (again) experimental cotton pants. Seems to have been through some stuff. One of those kevlar reinforced armored vehicle suits. Like this:
http://www.defence.gov.au/media/download/2004/mar/260304/JPAU22MAR04DH144_lo.jpg

Also a few patches, two aussie boonies, desert and woodland cammie. Field cap and an aussie ration pack.
Traded him ****loads of Norge stuff for it... But in all, a good catch IMO (aussie stuff is hard to come by here, just as i reckon Norge kit is down there).
I'll see if i can post some pictures up at some point.

The pouches i got for the vest, AFAIK, was two minimi things, three double mag pouches (standard 5.56 i reckon) and a single grenade pouch. As the review states, there is not much room on the vest, so i couldn't fit the nade pouch on it. I set one of the mag pockets up to fit a field dressing in it instead of magazines. In all, i reckon i'll use the vest mostly when playing OPFOR on excercises, as i don't want to repaint it.

Cheers,
Marcus

btw. Temperature ranges here go from around -40C in winter to 30 above in summer. That's inland. Coast is somewhat milder. ;)

What has this guy done with his gun? (think it is a C8)
It's all red. Weird...

[digrar]

There were some trial vests getting around, sort of M83 style. The one pictured looks a bit light on for pouches.
The cam pants look like the armoured crew ones with the verticle zip up leg pockets made in cotton.
I reckon the rifle is one of the red plastic dummy rifles painted black.

[Michael RVR]

Btw, i traded this with some Aussie who said he'd been over A-stan some time ago. He told me it was some experimental modular thing they'd used in limited numbers. I got the vest in broken up, and i've fastened the pockets myself with shoelaces.
Can someone tell me if it's in use? Is it standard issue yet?

http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/434_1083334712_aussievest.jpg

http://www.mil-kit-review.com/html/webbing.html

A review with heaps of information on the pictured Australian issue "load vest"

The vest you've got is on current issue with RRF reserve guys, not for everyone though.Use zip ties not shoelaces though :P

[TacoDelRio]

I'm likin' the Australian way of things!

I don't like how our M240's don't have cloth belt "Cases". The Aussies do on their FN MAG58's. Same with their Minimi's. A step ahead. Any of you who've played with and carried M240'S (FN MAG58 / L7A1 / FN GPMG etc...) know that it's a pain in the ass to keep the belt clean. Plus you need an assistant gunner. A 100rd-or-so pouch would help ALOT.

Something tells me "The Clip" is just a little kid putting in random comments. I'm sure we could modify the second word in his name to resemble that of a female's anatomy! :oops: rofl

DB p-)

[Marsuitor]

The vest you've got is on current issue with RRF reserve guys, not for everyone though.Use zip ties not shoelaces though :P

Yeah, he gave me the tip with the zip-ties, also said the pockets came with their own fastening setup, but it was usual to remove those and use them for other stuff(?). But i had some heavy duty laces lying about at the time, i'll probably do something more permanent at a later time.
Btw, what/who is the RRF? Not that into the ADF... :)

btw,
Is this the SADF M83?
http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/434_1083451449_sadf.jpg

[The Clip]

Troops in pictures are wearing terribl camoflage. Give me Russian desert!

[Dalleer]

Troops in pictures are wearing terribl camoflage. Give me Russian desert!

Well, most of these pictures feature the standard AUSCAM pattern which is not entirely designed for desert conditions despite the very different landscapes you can find in the Australian "Bush", I believe.

http://www.tridentmilitary.com/New-Photos8/Australian-camouflage.jpg

The AUSCAM is a mixture between a forest/desert pattern in my opinion and was first introduced in 1983 with a final production version being implemented into service in 1986.

http://www.tridentmilitary.com/New-Photos9/australian-b.jpg

The AUSCAM really seems to have had influence from the US "duck hunter"-pattern in my opinion as well. In any case, this pattern is obviously meant to act as a mixture of forest/desert patterns due to the nature of the Australian "outback".

http://www2.ttcn.ne.jp/~camouflage/image/australian_army_sas_desert.jpg

Here is one of two of the Australian "specifically for desert"-patterns. As I've understood, these were designed to the Australian mission into Iraq, and the pattern featured here is the "SASR desert pattern" meant for the Australian SF operating in Iraq. Perhaps other elements of the Australian mission into Iraq use this as well.

http://www2.ttcn.ne.jp/~camouflage/image/australian_army_sas_desert_yellow.jpg

The second Australian "desert" pattern. Don't ask me which Australian forces use it, but I'd guess that all the rest of the non-SF must be wearing it.

http://shop.russiancombatgear.com/images/bdu_splav_m21.jpg

For comparison, you can see at least one of the Russian desert patterns here. It is a obvious "modification" of the US 6-color desert pattern. Or perhaps the US has ripped the Russians, I don't know. But I highly doubt it.

[TacoDelRio]

Cause, you know, the Russians NEVER copy the US (Shuttle Byuran, woodland camo in that photo "NATO" or something, 6-color, TU-4 = B29, on and on...)

I'm switching back to ALICE gear. I'm tired of how the damn MOLLE has so much padding on the waist, and is such a bitch when you put an ALICE buttpack (assbag in my group :oops: ) on it, which, by the way, is not very easy to do.

QUESTION 4 ALL: Does anyone know of a buttpack with FASTEX instead of the usual slidign webbing that I can get for under $30? SOB makes great ones, for a GREAT price. :roll: Don't get me wrong, I have a bunch of their products, adn they rule, but $60 for a bag on your ass is a bit much.

DB

[Dalleer]

Cause, you know, the Russians NEVER copy the US (Shuttle Byuran, woodland camo in that photo "NATO" or something, 6-color, TU-4 = B29, on and on...)

Exactly my point.

And the Woodland-ripoff is indeed called "NATO" (at least by us westerners), not to mention the other camo's they've ripped...

Anyway, here's a pretty cool accessory for your cars, everyone:

http://www.camocovers.net/images/seats_auscam_county_1.jpg

http://www.camocovers.net/images/seats_woodland_defender_2.jpg

http://www.camocovers.net/images/seats_auscam_disco_insitu_2.jpg

http://www.camocovers.net/images/wheelblind_auscam_disco_1.jpg

Pretty cool, huh ?

[ibstolidude]

Roger that, I'll check out my AKO.

Thanks for the help. I just gotta see if it'll work with an Eagle chest rig.

Hooah cavtroop4!

DB p-)
simply use call.

[Michael RVR]

Btw, what/who is the RRF? Not that into the ADF... :)


Rapid Reaction Force, basically a company-plus type unit that is fielded with people seconded from the normal battalions, given extra training and funding so that they can back up police if neccesary, respond to requests for extra security (ala commonwealth games) etc.

From what i hear the training they've been given was pretty much exactly what people got for op gold (sydney 2000 olympics) although with a different title. :roll:

From what i hear they're also being qual'd to clear rubble etc as well in case of people being trapped under buildings.

[The Clip]

Russians dont rip off US camo. it is the other way around. Look at those styles wich were posted. Nothing similar, russian desert has been worn in chechnya in the south wheree there alot of afghan terrain. It has been used for over 9 years. US camo has gon bad because it looks like computer graphis! rofl the point of camo is to break up straight lines and make the wearer feel comfortable slightly. This not only looks terrible but when has service been ordered throughout forces???

[TacoDelRio]

IBStoliDude, sorry I don't get it. I know I'm slow! :|

I do like Russia's "Kamysh" pattern, just that it's a bit hard to get in California.

TheClip: 6-color desert has been around since before Desert Shield/Storm in 90/91, son. Thats a little more than 9 years ago.

Those little straight lines actually break up your outline very well. You wouldn't know that, though, as you don't undertstand a word that is coming out of my mouth.

Dalleer: them photos ain't showin'!

DB

[SiFiOn]

Here is some of the fieldgear the Dutch army is equiped with. It is only in use by regular units. :

http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/438_1083581724_dutchassaaultharness.jpg

http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/438_1083581742_dutchassaaultharnessdesert.jpg

Dutch 11 Airmobile Brigade and Korps Commando Troepen are using the so-called 'ops-vest'. I don't have a better picture of it, but this is my own equipment, here you see the so called ops-vest.
http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/438_1082715381_dsc00266-1.jpg


All those equipment is being replaced for a modular type ops-vest as we speak, when I have more detailed pics of the newest equipment I will post them here.

[The Clip]

Sorry, but I never knew it was US!! First time I saw it was on the news about chechnya. It is not a copy!! thats it keep patronising me!!! :bash: rofl We stille have th best urban camo. Never wore US camo so i don't know but they look so horrible. Russian camo has IR deflector on new issue camo of all types. Same for British i believe. Don't know about US!

[Dalleer]

Dalleer: them photos ain't showin'!

Hmm, that's odd.

They work just fine with my Netscape, but you might try using the "show picture" (or something along those lines) of your browser.

Since I doubt your getting the "red x's" it's just something to do with your browser.

[TacoDelRio]

Dalleer,

My browser sucks a fat one, Damn Windows XP ain't worth crap.

Re-did my fieldgear (LBE) back to good ol' ALICE-type:
http://img59.photobucket.com/albums/v181/MrSkorotsnoy/DSCF0003.jpg
http://img59.photobucket.com/albums/v181/MrSkorotsnoy/DSCF0001.jpg
Works better now. Still having a problem silencing the whole kit. The usual jump up-and-down before a mission, silence everything. The buttpack still makes noise, which I think is almost impossible to silence. Such is buttpacks.... :roll:

DB

[digrar]

MrSkorotsnoy the best way to silence a bumbag is to carefully take it off your webbing and throw it in the nearest rubbish bin, never to be seen again. Horrible things. :P If you want one with fastex clips look at some Australian sites although they will be in Auscam.
Marcus that is the SADF M83. Mine was a bit browner than the one you showed there. I've got no idea if they issue it in different colours. It's good webbing though, when you have it set up right.

[garoco]

I wear standard Aus Army issue webbing - H harness and belt, with only Minimi pouches attached to my double comforter (field mod'd years ago before an RCB trip). I chucked out my Steyr pouches as soon as I got out of my Recruit course and never used em since 'cept on my pack (with ALICE frame).

No water bottle carriers, the Minimi pouches are used for this or extra ammo/CES. I use the 'big' bladders only as they don't slip around in the Minimi pouches. Standard M9 Buck 'fighting knife'. I find, as a MAG58/84mm CG user this set-up to suit me well, 'cept with bucket seats in Bushmasters. 3L Camelbak and F1/F3 grenade pouches can be attached if I'm chucking HE/Prac around.

By the way, there have been three patterns of Aussie Desert cam produced here so far - 1. US "Coffee and Cream" aka "enemy cam". 2. The 'whiter' Desert cam for Afghanistan. 3. The 'yellow' Desert cam for Iraq.

[Sabre]

I use the issue assault vest with a few extra pouches sewn on to take combi tool, FFD etc.

http://www.silvermans.co.uk/silver/images/gif/productpics/tactvest.gif

Also use issue MkII patrol pack (rather knackered now!)

http://www.silvermans.co.uk/silver/images/gif/productpics/patpackog.gif

or a bergen, or both if there's loads of **** to carry (there usually is!)

Sometimes I wear PLCE webbing. Got an ammo pouch on each side plus one utility pouch and two water bottle pouches. In addition, I found a 70's issue green nylon pouch which sits behind my left ammo pouch, holding FFD, puritabs, water filter kit etc. Kit is topped off with FFD pouch front right and pouch for my multitool at front left. Replaced the crappy plastic PLCE belt with a canvas cargo strap and buckle. Much more secure.

[Dalleer]

By the way, there have been three patterns of Aussie Desert cam produced here so far - 1. US "Coffee and Cream" aka "enemy cam". 2. The 'whiter' Desert cam for Afghanistan. 3. The 'yellow' Desert cam for Iraq.

Hmm, "coffee and cream", got any pictures ?

Don't tell me, it's the 6-color desert right ?

[Marsuitor]

Marcus that is the SADF M83. Mine was a bit browner than the one you showed there. I've got no idea if they issue it in different colours. It's good webbing though, when you have it set up right.

K, thanks for that. Do you have any good advice on modifications and how to set up?

[digrar]

Just get it to fit right, there are a heap of adjustment tabs around the back and shoulders. If your going to be wearing body armour a lot, make sure it will fit over it.
As for modifications I replaced the original buckles and velcro with fastex clips and took the small back pack thing off the back.

[SiFiOn]

Today I made this picture of my ops-vest, it is now equiped with my gasmask bag (compared to my last post in this thread).

http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/438_1083861971_dsc00306.jpg

I hope to post some pictures this weekend that are showing our new modular-based assault vest. When everything works out well (so probably not), we will recieve them tomorrow...

[cqbrdy]

http://img21.photobucket.com/albums/v63/NastyBurger/lbe2.jpgjack stole my gear :cantbeli:

[eggroll]

mine

http://www.geardo.com/images/EGL/eggmlcs1.jpg

[eggroll]

mine

http://www.geardo.com/images/EGL/eggmlcs1.jpg

[ibstolidude]

thong, shower shoes, light coat of oil; poncho toga on occasion.

[farmgirl]

thong, shower shoes, light coat of oil; poncho toga on occasion.


sweet.... do you have some pics? p-)

[Beowulf]

thong, shower shoes, light coat of oil; poncho toga on occasion.

actually that's kinda accurate :D

We had daily "tanning ops" -ranger panties, shower shoes, and a light coat of oil.

woot

[SiFiOn]

Couldn't believe my eyes last week, look what I've got:

The new assault vest for the Dutch Army:

The assault vest completely stripped:
http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/438_1084204563_dsc00319.jpg

and with all accesoires:
http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/438_1084204596_dsc00317.jpg

Here is the assault vest as I'm intending to use it, it isn't completely finished yet:
http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/438_1084204628_dsc00321.jpg

[ibstolidude]

thong, shower shoes, light coat of oil; poncho toga on occasion.

actually that's kinda accurate :D

We had daily "tanning ops" -ranger panties, shower shoes, and a light coat of oil.

woot
tanned fat looks better than pale fat.

[ZeroPositive]

That some awesome Dutch kit u got there :D
is it Private purchase or issue?

Niceeee

[garoco]

To my Suomi mate above who asked about Aussie cams:

The standard Aussie "enemy" camouflage uniform (obviously in training exercises only) is the current US Army Desert uniform. It was initially issued as an interim Aussie Desert camouflage uniform until an Indigenous DPDU (Disruptive Pattern Desert Uniform) was introduced a few years back - just in time for Afghanistan 2001-2.

[SiFiOn]

That some awesome Dutch kit u got there :D
is it Private purchase or issue?

Niceeee

It is issued ... Are we lucky or not?

[Dalleer]

To my Suomi mate above who asked about Aussie cams:

The standard Aussie "enemy" camouflage uniform (obviously in training exercises only) is the current US Army Desert uniform. It was initially issued as an interim Aussie Desert camouflage uniform until an Indigenous DPDU (Disruptive Pattern Desert Uniform) was introduced a few years back - just in time for Afghanistan 2001-2.

Alright, thanks for the info!

[M1A2U2]

HOw did you find that dutch kit? Im am a collector and im looking for some dutch items

[SiFiOn]

HOw did you find that dutch kit? Im am a collector and im looking for some dutch items

It is issued to me. I have it just a few days. The Dutch Army soldiers in Iraq are also using them. I don't think it is already available for others.

[Enduring Freedom]

I wear a privately purchased "Jaeger Combatvest" (slightly modified).

http://img4.imageshack.us/img4/4243/Militaria23.jpg

[M1A2U2]

were u deployed ot iraq with the danish contingent?

[Enduring Freedom]

were u deployed ot iraq with the danish contingent?

No, I was deployed to Kyrgyzstan on Operation Enduring Freedom(2002/2003). But on OEF I wore an "Arktis Battlevest" as you can see on the picture below. I threw out the Arktis vest when I came home from OEF. The Arktis vest was somewhat uncomfortable to wear.

http://img16.imageshack.us/img16/4746/MSAWEB.JPG

[M1A2U2]

Is it true they are issuing desert kevlar covers now in iraq?

[Durandal]

http://www.defence.gov.au/media/download/2004/mar/260304/JPAU22MAR04DH144_lo.jpg
What has this guy done with his gun? (think it is a C8)
It's all red. Weird...

Not too sure if any one replied to this question...I skimmed through and did not see anything. Its a fake. The gun was originally cast in red then painted black to look real. Wear and tear has worn off the black spray paint on the raised edges.

They do make hi-viz blue and red ARs for the Coast Guard and other maratime agencies. The reason I was given is to help recover them if they go overboard...

This "rifle" is not one of those however...

Edit: Notice the carry handle is actually "solid"?

[ibstolidude]

were u deployed ot iraq with the danish contingent?

No, I was deployed to Kyrgyzstan on Operation Enduring Freedom(2002/2003). But on OEF I wore an "Arktis Battlevest" as you can see on the picture below. I threw out the Arktis vest when I came home from OEF. The Arktis vest was somewhat uncomfortable to wear.

http://img16.imageshack.us/img16/4746/MSAWEB.JPG
Funny - the differnces people have - I LOVE my Artkis 1601 - I mean I absolutely love it. everything is in the front - little on the sides. I love it for vehicles and cities. Great pockets - free shoulders, wide shoulder straps, could use better 9mm mag pockets. I do not use the silly internal hoslter.

[SiFiOn]

Thanks for your reply Durandal, no one had answered prior to your post.

I was already thinking this way, but wasn't sure. Here in the Netherlands are dummy-guns used by our KCT (Korps Commando Troepen) during (training) parachute-jumps, to prevent the real rifles from being damaged. However, these dummy guns are made out of yellow plastic here.

Thanks!

[ZeroPositive]

were u deployed ot iraq with the danish contingent?

No, I was deployed to Kyrgyzstan on Operation Enduring Freedom(2002/2003). But on OEF I wore an "Arktis Battlevest" as you can see on the picture below. I threw out the Arktis vest when I came home from OEF. The Arktis vest was somewhat uncomfortable to wear.

http://img16.imageshack.us/img16/4746/MSAWEB.JPG

U THREW IT AWAY OMG you could have sold it on I know tonnes of people who love the Danish camo pattern.....

[Enduring Freedom]

U THREW IT AWAY OMG you could have sold it on I know tonnes of people who love the Danish camo pattern.....

Sorry :oops: But there a few places where you can buy danish camo:

www.flecktarn.co.uk

www.arktisltd.co.uk

and on ebay, search for "danish flectarn".

But I have to warn you, it's expensive.