Tsahal to have executed 250 Egyptian soldiers after the end of 67 war ?

[Bitogno]

According to haaretz Infrastructure Minister Benjamin Ben-Eliezer has cancelled his scheduled visit to Egypt in the wake of a row over media reports - denied by Ben-Eliezer - that during the 1967 Six-Day War, troops under his command executed 250 captured Egyptian soldiers.

The allegations arose from media reports of material included in "Ruach Shaked" [The Spirit of Shaked] a documentary film by Israeli journalist Ron Edelist. The film aired on Israel Channel 1 television last week.

The reports said that Ben-Eliezer's Shaked commando unit executed 250 Egyptian prisoners-of-war in the Sinai peninsula immediately after the cessation of hostilities, rather than transfer them to prison camps.

http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/833362.html

[Player]

Ran Ederlist, the producer, told Army Radio that the Egyptian reports badly distorted his documentary. He said the incident did not involve unarmed Egyptian prisoners of war, but rather Palestinian fighters killed in the heat of battle while the war was still raging.

"What happened was that there were (Israeli) fighters waging battle against a retreating (Palestinian) commando battalion," said Ederlist.

From Jpost

[Player]

Smells like propaganda...

[CPLHUNTER]

Maybe, maybe not.

No armed force is perfect. US forces have commited war crimes as well as other nations.

Hope it's not true.

[Player]

What I would totaly agree about is that Benjamin Ben-Eliezer is a retard.

[Moledet]

What I would totaly agree about is that Benjamin Ben-Eliezer is a retard.

Ani ani...bo. :-D

[Javehn]

Ani ani...bo. :-D

Im kol hatsaar shebedavar ... ani ani ani ani ani , bo .

[oldsoak]

Executing 250 men in cold blood after the cessation of hostilities and its only come to light now ? Why wait until the war was over if they didnt want to transfer them to camps ? Its not beleivable.

[Hollis]

Executing 250 men in cold blood after the cessation of hostilities and its only come to light now ? Why wait until the war was over if they didnt want to transfer them to camps ? Its not beleivable.

A friend(IDF) who was in the Sinai, said they would give a canteen of water to the surrendering Egyptian soldier and point the way to the Suez. The Egyptian army on the Egypt side of the Suez was told to shoot any Egyptian soldier trying to make it back into Egypt. The news in Egypt was that Syrian and Egyptian Soldiers were about to shake hands in Jerusalem.

Later Egyptian reported the glorious victory of the Egyptian troops in the '73 war. Sounds like one of the Egyptian news stories.

[Kaplanr]

If anyone has learned anything, it's that there are no secrets in Israel.

[Jobu]

If anyone has learned anything, it's that there are no secrets in Israel.

Nor is there much truth.

[GreekAmerican]

Executing 250 men in cold blood after the cessation of hostilities and its only come to light now ? Why wait until the war was over if they didnt want to transfer them to camps ? Its not beleivable.



it's an old story really, some connect it with the USS Liberty attack:



"In his new bestseller 'Body of Secrets,"Bamford proposes a motive for the attack: Israel, he says, was in the process of murdering several hundred Egyptian prisoners of war at nearby El Arish and wanted to prevent the Liberty from preserving recorded evidence of the massacre.





IDF killings of Egyptian prisoners of war

In a 16 August (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/August_16) 1995 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1995) interview for Israel Radio (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israel_Broadcasting_Authority), Aryeh Yitzhaki (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aryeh_Yitzhaki) of Bar Ilan University (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bar_Ilan_University), who had worked previously in the Israel Defense Forces (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israel_Defense_Forces) (IDF) history department, accused a reconnaissance unit, known as Shaked (Almond), of which then housing minister in the Labour government Binyamin Ben-Eliezer (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Binyamin_Ben-Eliezer) had been acting commander, of killing hundreds of Egyptians (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Egyptians) who had abandoned their weapons and fled into the desert during the 1967 war. Yitzhaki claimed that after the war, he conducted a study proving that in six or seven separate incidents, approximately 1,000 unarmed Egyptian prisoners of war (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prisoners_of_war) were killed by IDF units. He told Israel Radio that he "submitted the study to then chief of general staff Yitzhak Rabin (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yitzhak_Rabin), but he, as well as the upper echelons of the army, knew and swept it under the rug." It emerged subsequently that Yitzhaki was a member of Rafael Eitan (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rafael_Eitan)'s Tsomet (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tsomet) Party. Meir Pa'il (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meir_Pa%27il), who had employed him as an assistant during research in the IDF archive, speculated that Yitzhaki was seeking to divert public attention away from revelations by retired general Arye Biro (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Arye_Biro&action=edit) concerning his and Eitan’s involvement in the killing of 49 PoWs in the 1956 war. [1] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Accusations_regarding_the_Six-Day_War#endnote_post19aug) [2] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Accusations_regarding_the_Six-Day_War#endnote_nytimes21aug) Yitzhaki said "It annoys me that everyone is making an issue about that one case, when everyone knows there were so many events like it". [3] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Accusations_regarding_the_Six-Day_War#endnote_jpost17081995) The allegations received widespread attention in Israel and throughout the world and later resurfaced in a book called Body of Secrets (pp. 201-202) by James Bamford (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Bamford). [4] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Accusations_regarding_the_Six-Day_War#endnote_nytimesreview) [5] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Accusations_regarding_the_Six-Day_War#endnote_bamfordreview)

Although Yitzkhaki’s claim that up to 1,000 prisoners had been killed was not substantiated, in the ensuing national debate in Israel more soldiers came forward to say that they had witnessed the execution of unarmed prisoners and a long-suppressed public reckoning began. Gabby Bron (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Gabby_Bron&action=edit), a journalist on the tabloid, Yedioth Ahronoth (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yedioth_Ahronoth), said he had witnessed the execution of five Egyptian prisoners. [6] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Accusations_regarding_the_Six-Day_War#endnote_bron) Michael Bar-Zohar (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Bar-Zohar) confessed that he had personally witnessed the murder of three Egyptian POWs by a cook [7] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Accusations_regarding_the_Six-Day_War#endnote_zohar) and Meir Pa'il said that he knew of many instances in which soldiers had killed PoWs or Arab civilians. [8] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Accusations_regarding_the_Six-Day_War#endnote_pows) In the Associated Press (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Associated_Press) article in which Yitzhaki’s claims spread around the world [9] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Accusations_regarding_the_Six-Day_War#endnote_laub) it was noted that "Rabin, who was chief of staff when some of the 1967 killings allegedly were committed, walked away today when a reporter shouted a related question. His office later issued a statement denouncing the killings and calling them isolated incidents". However, leading Israeli military historian Uri Milstein (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uri_Milstein) was reported in the same article as saying that there were many incidents in the 1967 war in which Egyptian soldiers were killed by Israeli troops after they had raised their hands in surrender. "It was not an official policy, but there was an atmosphere that it was okay to do it," Milstein said. "Some commanders decided to do it; others refused. But everyone knew about it." [10] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Accusations_regarding_the_Six-Day_War#endnote_post)

According to a New York Times (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_York_Times) report of 21 September (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/September_21) 1995 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1995) the Egyptian government announced that it had discovered two shallow mass graves in the Sinai at El Arish containing the remains of 30-60 Egyptian prisoners shot by Israeli soldiers during the 1967 war. Israel responded by sending Eli Dayan (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Eli_Dayan&action=edit) a Deputy Foreign Minister, to Egypt discuss the matter. During his visit Dayan offered compensation to the families of victims, but explained that Israel was unable to pursue those responsible owing to its 20-year statute of limitations (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Statute_of_limitations). The Israeli Ambassador to Cairo, David Sultan (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=David_Sultan&action=edit), asked to be relieved of his post after the Egyptian daily Al Shaab (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al_Shaab) said he was personally responsible for the killing of 100 Egyptian prisoners, although both the Israeli Embassy and Foreign Ministry denied the charge and said that it was not even clear that Sultan had served in the military. [11] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Accusations_regarding_the_Six-Day_War#endnote_nytimes21sep)
Declassified IDF documents show that on 11 June (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/June_11) 1967 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1967) the operations branch of the general staff felt it necessary to issue new orders concerning the treatment of prisoners. The order read: "Since existing orders are contradictory, here are binding instructions. a) Soldiers and civilians who give themselves up are not to be hurt in any way. b) Soldiers and civilians who carry a weapon and do not surrender will be killed... Soldiers who are caught disobeying this order by killing prisoners will be punished severely. Make sure this order is brought to the attention of all IDF soldiers". [12] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Accusations_regarding_the_Six-Day_War#endnote_bowen276)
According to Israeli sources 4338 Egyptian soldiers were taken captive by IDF. 11 Israeli soldiers were taken captive by Egyptian forces. PoW exchanges were completed on 23 January (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/January_23) 1968 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1968). [13] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Accusations_regarding_the_Six-Day_War#endnote_exchanges)


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Accusations_regarding_the_Six-Day_War



more articles here:


http://www.fas.org/sgp/eprint/bamford.html

[GreekAmerican]

Gabby Bron's words:


Mass Graves


In 1967 Six-Day War, Egyptian POWs
Ordered to Dig Graves, Then Shot by Israeli Army
By Gabby Bron *
It was the publication of the claims, made by Dr. Aryeh Yitzhaki,(1) about what really occurred during the Six Day War [June 1967] that caused me to recall what had happened and what I and my comrades had seen during my reserve service.
On the third day of that war we saw Egyptian POWs being executed after a "court martial". The explanation given to us was that those killed were Palestinian "Fedayin" fighters from the Gaza Strip who had disguised themselves as soldiers in order to escape from our forces". I witnessed their executions with my own eyes in the morning of June 8, 1967 in the airport area in al-Arish, Sinai. This was where the headquarters of the brigade commanded by General Israel Tal, in which I had served, were located.
On that morning we heard that hundreds of Egyptian POWs were being held in the headquarters and we had time to go to look at them. About 150 POW's were held in an open building serving as a cover for airplanes, surrounded on three sides by high sand-bag embankments. They were densely crowded and sitting on the ground with their hands on the back of their necks.
Adjoining the prison compound, guarded by military police, there were two men sitting at a table. They wore Israeli army uniforms and steel helmets with faces almost entirely covered by sun glasses and khaki-colored handkerchiefs. Every few minutes, the military police took one of the POWs from the prison compound and escorted him to the table. A short conversation, which we were not able to hear, was then conducted. Following it, the POW was escorted by two military policemen to a place behind the building.
I followed the procedure. The POW was escorted to a distance of about 100 meters from the building and given a spade. I watched the POW digging a big pit which took about 15 minutes. Then the policemen ordered him to throw out the spade. When he did so one of them pointed his Uzi gun at the POW inside the pit and shot two short bullet bursts, consisting maybe of three four bullets each. The POW fell dead. After a few minutes another POW was escorted to the same pit, forced to go into it and was also shot dead. A third POW was brought to the same place and also shot dead. Since the process was repeated a number of times, the grave was filled up. I witnessed about ten such executions.
We were standing there, near the place where the POW's were being held and we watched silently. The fact that a number of soldiers were watching the spectacle was apparently unwelcome because after a time Colonel Eshel, the commander of the communication battalion of the brigade, appeared and shouted at the soldiers, ordering them to leave. When we didn't show any willingness to obey, Colonel Eshel pulled out his personal revolver and threatened us with it. Raising his voice even more, he was able to get the soldiers to obey, including me.

The reserve soldiers who heard about what had happened were horrified,(2) and about the noon an officer, whose identity I cannot recall, came to explain to the reserve soldiers that the men of the Military Intelligence were identifying "Fedayin" fighters of the Gaza Strip who had murdered Jews and disguised themselves. At that time of the continuing war, it seemed a reasonable explanation.(3) The day after, a rumor circulated that, in another al-Arish location, "hundreds of Egyptian POWs who interfered with the advance of our forces", were liquidated. Dr. Aryeh Yitzhaki must be referring now to this rumor as an established tact. ( Yediot Ahronot, August 17, 1995) Dr. Israel Shahak, a Holocaust survivor and retired professor of chemistry at the Hebrew University in Jerusalem, is chairman of the Israeli League of Human and Civil Rights.

[NimDod]

According to haaretz Infrastructure Minister Benjamin Ben-Eliezer has cancelled his scheduled visit to Egypt in the wake of a row over media reports - denied by Ben-Eliezer - that during the 1967 Six-Day War, troops under his command executed 250 captured Egyptian soldiers.

The allegations arose from media reports of material included in "Ruach Shaked" [The Spirit of Shaked] a documentary film by Israeli journalist Ron Edelist. The film aired on Israel Channel 1 television last week.

The reports said that Ben-Eliezer's Shaked commando unit executed 250 Egyptian prisoners-of-war in the Sinai peninsula immediately after the cessation of hostilities, rather than transfer them to prison camps.

http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/833362.html

Benjamin Ben-Eliezer claims that the 250 enemy fighters that were killed were Palestinian Fedayeens that were fighting as part of the Egyptian army and they were all killed in combat, and the Egyptian mixed up these men with an Egyptian battalion that surrendered to his unit a day before.

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3372355,00.html

“It is true that in one battle in that war, there was a confrontation between soldiers from the Palestinian fedayeen regiment, which operated in the Gaza Strip against Israel, and the unit which I commanded. They were not ‘murdered’, as was claimed, but were killed in battle.

"The order I got was to wage battle against the Palestinian fedayeen regiment that was operating from the Strip, paralyzing southern Israel and causing dozens of casualties among the soldiers in my unit and in the IDF.

“To remove any doubt, an examination of the Southern Command’s intelligence document, dated June 4, 1967, which by my request was transferred from the IDF’s historical archive and details the deployment of enemy forces in the Strip, proves that the forces were the Palestinian Fedayeen battalion and not Egyptian troops.

"The confusion may have arisen from the historical fact that two days before the battle in question, the Shaked commando unit met an Egyptian unit, which had stopped fighting. The unit’s soldiers helped the Egyptian regiment and gave them food and water,” Ben Eliezer told the Egyptian paper.

Ben Eliezer’s office stressed that the minister was extremely angered by what they called the false reports which confuse between the Palestinian fedayeen fighters and Egyptian soldiers.

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3372370,00.html

Minister Ben Eliezer postpones visit to Egypt due to recent tensions

Published: 03.04.07, 22:02 / Israel News

National Infrastructure Minister Binyamin Ben Eliezer has decided to postpone a scheduled trip to Egypt. The decision was made in light of tensions roused by an Israeli film claiming that the unit under Ben Eliezer's command in the Six Day War was responsible for the killing of 250 unarmed Egyptian POWs.


A spokesman for the minister said that although the facts displayed in the film were incorrect, it was agreed to postpone the trip in light of the unwelcoming atmosphere in Cairo. (Roee Nahmias)

[LRPV]

This will come up again under the next Egyptian President. Any bets on how long the Treaty between Israel and Egypt will last?:-(

[Hollis]

I really don't know why I feel this, But I think GreekAmerican is very anti-Israeli.

It is commie BS or Jihadi BS, I can't tell.

[olowy]

http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1173115960955&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull

Former Shaked fighter: We never killed POWs

Also in the article:
"Edelist (the director of the documentary) told the Post his documentary did not claim that soldiers in that unit killed prisoners. He said it described an attack by Palestinian fedayeen (Palestinian commandos) at the war's end, in which some soldiers felt disproportionate force was used."

By the way, wasn't this an episode of JAG once where a guy claimed there was a massacre during the Vietnam war and the people in the unit said he was wrong? Seems like the Egyptians are just riping off bad TV shows.

[GreekAmerican]

[quote=HOLLiS;2350034]I really don't know why I feel this, But I think GreekAmerican is very anti-Israeli.

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[Moledet]

If anyone has learned anything, it's that there are no secrets in Israel.
True, but the media was wrong here and I hope they will pay.
They must be sued for hurting Eliezer's and Shaked soldiers reputation and pay a lot of money.

If you didn't get it yet (and especially if your nick is Greek American) this documentary never reported the killing of unarmed Egyptian soldiers. The Egyptian press said that it did and the Israeli newspapers instead of first checking the facts (watching the documentary) and later reporting them, they just copied whatever the Egyptian press reported.

[Hollis]

[quote=HOLLiS;2350034]I really don't know why I feel this, But I think GreekAmerican is very anti-Israeli.

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In case you don't get it, read Moledet post again,

hint:

"If you didn't get it yet (and especially if your nick is Greek American) this documentary never reported the killing of unarmed Egyptian soldiers. The Egyptian press said that it did and the Israeli newspapers instead of first checking the facts (watching the documentary) and later reporting them, they just copied whatever the Egyptian press reported." (Moledet)


Now go back and read what you were are willing to believe.

[GreekAmerican]

[quote=GreekAmerican;2351593]


In case you don't get it, read Moledet post again,

hint:

"If you didn't get it yet (and especially if your nick is Greek American) this documentary never reported the killing of unarmed Egyptian soldiers. The Egyptian press said that it did and the Israeli newspapers instead of first checking the facts (watching the documentary) and later reporting them, they just copied whatever the Egyptian press reported." (Moledet)


Now go back and read what you were are willing to believe.





Although Yitzkhaki’s claim that up to 1,000 prisoners had been killed was not substantiated, in the ensuing national debate in Israel more soldiers came forward to say that they had witnessed the execution of unarmed prisoners and a long-suppressed public reckoning began. Gabby Bron (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Gabby_Bron&action=edit), a journalist on the tabloid, Yedioth Ahronoth (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yedioth_Ahronoth), said he had witnessed the execution of five Egyptian prisoners. [6] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Accusations_regarding_the_Six-Day_War#endnote_bron) Michael Bar-Zohar (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Bar-Zohar) confessed that he had personally witnessed the murder of three Egyptian POWs by a cook .




these eyewitnesses either are either liars or.......copied Egyptian papers:)

[Hollis]

[quote=HOLLiS;2351631]





Although Yitzkhaki’s claim that up to 1,000 prisoners had been killed was not substantiated, in the ensuing national debate in Israel more soldiers came forward to say that they had witnessed the execution of unarmed prisoners and a long-suppressed public reckoning began. Gabby Bron (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Gabby_Bron&action=edit), a journalist on the tabloid, Yedioth Ahronoth (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yedioth_Ahronoth), said he had witnessed the execution of five Egyptian prisoners. [6] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Accusations_regarding_the_Six-Day_War#endnote_bron) Michael Bar-Zohar (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Bar-Zohar) confessed that he had personally witnessed the murder of three Egyptian POWs by a cook .




these eyewitnesses either are either liars or.......copied Egyptian papers:)

You really want to believe don't you.

BTW what ever happens to Israelis that are take prisoner?

[derkrieger]

why are you guys bullying a fellow American ( Greko that is) who tends to believe that some rather well documented events did really take place?
Are Israelis superhumans who would always have the best conduct? I am also of the opinion that these rumors are real abd substantiated. So this does not turn antisemitists into better people nor Israelis into demons.

A crime is a crime and a human being is a human being regardless of race religion and creed. Those Egyptian soldiers were soldiers per se and had to be given their rights recognized by laws of war. Sad that those who suffered the unimaginable atrocities lowered themselves to those initial perpetrators to follow their path.

[Mr.Flint]

You really want to believe don't you.

BTW what ever happens to Israelis that are take prisoner?
Best case? Tortured in prison, but kept alive... Worst case? Tortured and brutally executed...

[Hollis]

why are you guys bullying a fellow American ( Greko that is) who tends to believe that some rather well documented events did really take place?
Are Israelis superhumans who would always have the best conduct? I am also of the opinion that these rumors are real abd substantiated. So this does not turn antisemitists into better people nor Israelis into demons.

A crime is a crime and a human being is a human being regardless of race religion and creed. Those Egyptian soldiers were soldiers per se and had to be given their rights recognized by laws of war. Sad that those who suffered the unimaginable atrocities lowered themselves to those initial perpetrators to follow their path.


Another wanna believe Israel is root of all evil, or it is Bush or USA this time?. BTW READ THE ARTICLE.

from Moledet:

"If you didn't get it yet (and especially if your nick is Greek American) this documentary never reported the killing of unarmed Egyptian soldiers. The Egyptian press said that it did and the Israeli newspapers instead of first checking the facts (watching the documentary) and later reporting them, they just copied whatever the Egyptian press reported."

[NimDod]

I saw the documenty on the Israeli channel 1 and besides being as boring as hell, the ex-soldiers who were interviewed never claimed they have killed Egyptian soldiers.
two of them were bothered by the fact that the unit "hunted down" enemy Fadayun sodiers (they called them "Palestinian commandos") using helicopters, even though they were already broken and didnt make a real threat to the Israeli army anymore.
these guy's are in their 60's today and probebly make a self examination over their activities in the past...
anyway, the Israeli Parlament member who pretty much started this whole storm-in-a-tea-pot sayed he didnt even watch the documentry, but he knows it happened.
the Egyptian opposition is having a field day on this story and the Egyptian public doesnt really care about the facts. the atmosphere is always anti-Israeli over there, only now they have a real exuse for it.

[Javehn]

I've read somewhere , that during 6 day war , there were some cases of shooting unarmed Egyptian soldiers . For instant , one of those cases (as far as I remember , it was from the book "I , gunner") artyllery crue were attacked by Egyptian soldiers (unarmed) scattered all over Sinay desert , looking for water . They had to shoot them , to stay allive .


One has to understand what happened there . Beaten Egyptian soldiers , who were taken by absolute surprise made one of the biggest retreats in histor of warfare . They have taken their shoes and made mass unorganised run for Suez canal . Infact , it was so big of a runaway , that Egyptian soldiers on the other side of the canal were ordered to shoot on their fellow comrades who tried to swim over the Suez canal !!! Truely a scene from a movie "enemy at the gates" ...


So there were many instances of Egyptian soldiers , dehidrated , despared , wondering in the desert on their way to Suez canal , and just looking something to drink and perhaps eat . Israeli troops who meet them , gave them water . But in some instances , they couldn't do it , or take them prisoners - they didn't had water themself , or those Egyptian soldiers in despare just attacked Israeli crues just to get water , and those had to attack back .

Some cases were more justified , some less - nothing in our life is back or white , specialy at war - offcorse , not when it concerns the jooos who just have to be PERFECT . Isn't that right , Greek American ?



Anyway , nothing in this movie talked about Israeli soldiers shooting cold bloud . It talked about Shaked soldiers chasing Palestinain Fadayin , and some fighters said that perhaps it wasn't neccesary to chast them with helicopters , sence they weren't real threat at that time .


Israeli Knesset member Yosi Sarrid , like any other retared politician , took that to his advantage , and said something very harmfull to our country , knowing (or not ) it would be falsificated in Arab media , but saying it never the less , just because it puts him on the map . Great work , Yosi Sarid !!

[phoebus]

Stuff like that happens in wartime, all you need to do is bring those responsible in court and move on with pride.

[GreekAmerican]

[quote=Javehn;2354063]I've read somewhere , that during 6 day war , there were some cases of shooting unarmed Egyptian soldiers . For instant , one of those cases (as far as I remember , it was from the book "I , gunner") artyllery crue were attacked by Egyptian soldiers (unarmed) scattered all over Sinay desert , looking for water . They had to shoot them , to stay allive .

Some cases were more justified , some less - nothing in our life is back or white , specialy at war - offcorse , not when it concerns the jooos who just have to be PERFECT . Isn't that right , Greek American ?









IF you read my posts you'll see that i reported what former IDF soldiers said and what known papers wrote. Your problem is that everyone must accept your version of the story. Who said that the Jews or any other must be perfect? In fact by denying a priori any wrongdoings of IDF
YOU are the one who adopts the ''PERFECT'' soldier icon.


And why do you call Jews, jooos?

[NimDod]

And why do you call Jews, jooos?

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=jooos!


1. jooos!

(noun) Slang for jews, especially when explaining why they are at fault or disliked by another group.

As the islamic extremists flew the airplane toward the skyscraper, they all yelled out, "Damn joooooooos!"

Leave it to the joooos to kill God's only son.

[GreekAmerican]

As the islamic extremists flew the airplane toward the skyscraper, they all yelled out, "Damn joooooooos!"


how do we know this?:roll:

[Player]

As the islamic extremists flew the airplane toward the skyscraper, they all yelled out, "Damn joooooooos!"


how do we know this?:roll:

Do you know something called sarcasm?

[GreekAmerican]

Do you know something called sarcasm?


no what is it?:)