Saudi gang-rape victim faces 90 lashes

[Kilgor]

A Saudi woman who was kidnapped at knifepoint, gang-raped and then beaten by her brother has been sentenced to 90 lashes — for meeting a man who was not a relative.

In an interview with the Saudi Gazette, the 19-year-old said she was blackmailed a year ago into meeting a man who threatened to tell her family they were having a relationship outside wedlock, which is illegal in the ultra-conservative desert kingdom.

After driving off together from a shopping mall near her home, the woman and the man were stopped and abducted by a gang of men wielding kitchen knives who took them to a farm where she was raped 14 times by her captors.

Five men were arrested for the rape and given jail terms ranging from 10 months to five years by a panel of judges in the eastern city of Qatif, near the woman's hometown.

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But the judges also decided to sentence the woman, identified by the newspaper only as "G," and the man to lashes for being alone together in the car.

Unrelated men and women are forbidden from interacting in public in Saudi Arabia, which strictly enforces Islamic Sharia law.

"G" said one of the judges told she was lucky not to have been given jail time. "I was shocked at the verdict. I couldn't believe my ears," said the woman, who has appealed against her sentence.

The woman also told the paper she tried to commit suicide because of her ordeal and was beaten by her younger brother because the rape had brought shame on their family.

Fuziyah al-Ouni, described as an activist by the paper, said she was outraged by the case. "By sentencing her to 90 lashes they are sending a message that she is guilty. No rape victim is guilty," she said.

There are severe legal restrictions on women in Saudi Arabia, including a strict dress code required outside the home and a ban on driving.

http://news.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=252865

[CPL Trevoga]

Times are changin'. They usually rape boys over there.

[exarmyguard]

Times are changin'. They usually rape boys over there.

Thats what they call "progress".

[daily666]

I cannot believe what I read. Sick bastards.

[zootia]

Gee.. I'm so glad I aint muslim

[schwarz]

We should do that here......wait just shoot the ****ers

[Macs.]

It's Saudi Arabia again - The great ally in the "Global War On Terror".

[D-gin]

It's Saudi Arabia again - The great ally in the "Global War On Terror".

HAHAHA.....rofl

[Delta Niner]

Times are changin'. They usually rape boys over there.

But before that it was sheeps, goats and camels :)

[saBBBat]

Aren't the tribal regions of Pakistan worse in dealings like these? ...our other ally

[Chulo]

Aren't the tribal regions of Pakistan worse in dealings like these? ...our other ally
i dont think Pakistan would have batted an eye if they guys were let go <since they punished the sinner> and the woman was stoned...

[Henry's Fork]

It's Saudi Arabia again - The great ally in the "Global War On Terror".

Right up there with Pakistan. Who needs enemies when you got such great friends as these?

There is not much that can be done about it. Invading SA would be the ultimate attack on islam by we infidels. I doubt even the moderate muslims in the US would sit by quietly.

SA is like China, the rest of the world turns it head and says little when they get all midevil. And until they run out of oil or get nuked by Iran, the rest of the world will do jack**** about it.

[Laworkerbee]

Not defending their ****ed up laws over there but at least they followed it. She is being lashed for breaking the law (the mahroom law I think) period not the rape.

I'm truly surprised the the slap on the wrist this "gang" received but guess they must have been Saudi's because had these been some Pakistani laborers their heads would have been lopped off.

[LRPV]

All this outrage.....Saudi is a living reason to defend our countries against fundamentalist Islam.

[ex1cdo]

But before that it was sheeps, goats and camels :)

"A woman for duty, a boy for pleasure, a melon for ecstasy" - old saying from a certain culture.

[annihilation]

And we are forced to buy our oil from them. Why is god so cruel as to have placed the oil in regions such as these.

[Durandal]

Our allies and the nationality of a majority of the terrorists that have done harm to our nation.'

We invaded the wrong nation.

I mean, if we were going to waste all these lives and cash, why not invade the biggest threat?

But noooo....we invaded a country who had a bad leader. rofl woot

Not too sure how ANYONE can take Bush and company seriously anymore. I mean, its like a freaking Monty Python skit.

[tyovan]

I can't wait until we achieve energy independence and then we can tell that country to go to hell.

[Meatwad]

This **** infuriates me. What the **** kind of ally is this?

With all the bitching about Russia, China, Iran and Venezuela. They don't come anywhere near these fundamentalist assholes.

[Notlim]

I can't wait until we achieve energy independence and then we can tell that country to go to hell.

I dont think we can achieve that with new Ethanol coming from brazil!

[Con-man]

Blech, I'm sure if someone decided to speak about it from another country they'd be accused of meddling in another countries affairs.

[annihilation]

Our allies and the nationality of a majority of the terrorists that have done harm to our nation.'

We invaded the wrong nation.

I mean, if we were going to waste all these lives and cash, why not invade the biggest threat?

But noooo....we invaded a country who had a bad leader. rofl woot

Not too sure how ANYONE can take Bush and company seriously anymore. I mean, its like a freaking Monty Python skit.
I would laugh but then I realize that its happening to my country, so I end up crying.

[LEGEND]

you guys should keep quiet, or this "englishman" will come after you!
http://www.goofigure.com/images/library/muslim_protest_2.jpg

[Thor]

90 lashes are far worse than the punishment they would get here. You know, a few months of therapy.

[Macs.]

90 lashes are far worse than the punishment they would get here. You know, a few months of therapy.

It doesn't hurt to actually read the article.

[Indiana Jones]

90 lashes are far worse than the punishment they would get here. You know, a few months of therapy.
You sure do provide great entertainment. rofl
EDIT: Macs, that bloody scoundrel, was faster.

[Thor]

Oops, my bad.

You get so used to these articles. This one must set some kind of record though.

[Count Lippe]

And we are forced to buy our oil from them. Why is god so cruel as to have placed the oil in regions such as these.
why do you blame god? get your fat ass up from the couch, sell your 5-miles-a-gallon truck and try to be less dependant from oil!p-)

[phoilme]

And we want to respect this country? Yet, America is portrayed as the shame of the world. Scum like John Edwards "feels" Jesus would be rolling over in his grave if he knew what republicans are doing to the world.

[Freedom-Fries]

It's Saudi Arabia again - The great ally in the "Global War On Terror".

I think we should stop giving them weapons and money for their stupid oil, go nuclear or solar and boycott the Middle East

[Laworkerbee]

I think we should stop giving them weapons and money for their stupid oil, go nuclear or solar and boycott the Middle East

If only the world were so simple sorry to say its not

[2Sheds_Jackson]

Our allies and the nationality of a majority of the terrorists that have done harm to our nation.'

We invaded the wrong nation.

I mean, if we were going to waste all these lives and cash, why not invade the biggest threat?

But noooo....we invaded a country who had a bad leader. rofl woot

Not too sure how ANYONE can take Bush and company seriously anymore. I mean, its like a freaking Monty Python skit.

I think we should invade every country that has domestic policy we disagree with, and then take all their resources for ourselves. Y'know, hearts and minds and all that. I'm putting the Netherlands at the top of the list - it's an infected leftie hell-hole that's just crying out to be corrected. Once we stamp out this left-leading offender, we can reverse the leftward drift in Europe from our new EuroMerican stronghold. Who's with me?!! (charges out the door with only a pistol in hand)

[Macs.]

I think we should invade every country that has domestic policy we disagree with, and then take all their resources for ourselves. Y'know, hearts and minds and all that. I'm putting the Netherlands at the top of the list - it's an infected leftie hell-hole that's just crying out to be corrected. Once we stamp out this left-leading offender, we can reverse the leftward drift in Europe from our new EuroMerican stronghold. Who's with me?!! (charges out the door with only a pistol in hand)

Heart-Warming defence for Saudi Arabia. p-)


Let's face it: The US is pampering Saudi Arabia with a treatment they shouldn't get. But appartenly the "Global War On Terror" doesn't apply to some certain countries.

[phoilme]

I am sure the women in SA can leave any time they please.

[2Sheds_Jackson]

Heart-Warming defence for Saudi Arabia. p-)


Let's face it: The US is pampering Saudi Arabia with a treatment they shouldn't get. But appartenly the "Global War On Terror" doesn't apply to some certain countries.

The US? Are we in charge? Last I noticed, there were 191 other members of the UN - who would like to stop pampering Saudi Arabia? Anybody? Now don't all stand up at once. :)

[Macs.]

The US? Are we in charge? Last I noticed, there were 191 other members of the UN - who would like to stop pampering Saudi Arabia? Anybody? Now don't all stand up at once. :)

Who cares about the UN ?

Last time I checked the US was the leading nation of the alliance which is fighting the GWOT, and I remember that the US didn't really care about the UN when it was chasing it goals in the GWOT.

[2Sheds_Jackson]

Who cares about the UN ?

Last time I checked the US was the leading nation of the alliance which is fighting the GWOT, and I remember that the US didn't really care about the UN when it was chasing it goals in the GWOT.

Precisely - the US saw what it deemed to be an intolerable situation, and it acted, even if other people wouldn't go along. So what's keeping other nations from taking on Saudi Arabia? If Saudi Arabia is eee-vil, which you contend it is, and should be opposed, as you say it should be, why does the US have to do it for anybody else? Your country, for example, is perfectly capable of tackling mighty Saudi Arabia, of unilaterally acting against them, of enduring the massive price spike in everything from chewing gum to shoes. Step right, up, there's no time like the present.

[Macs.]

Precisely - the US saw what it deemed to be an intolerable situation, and it acted, even if other people wouldn't go along. So what's keeping other nations from taking on Saudi Arabia? If Saudi Arabia is eee-vil, which you contend it is, and should be opposed, as you say it should be, why does the US have to do it for anybody else?

You make it sound like this is somekind of "Sudan - Somebody please do something !"-Situation... Whatever happened to the US-led "Global War on Terror" ?

It should be in the interest of the US and the GWOT to do something about it - Of course no one else is gonna step up much pressure on SA because it simply isn't worth it or isn't much of a interest for most other countries.

I don't know how to handle the "problem" that Saudi Arabia is, but in my opinion it would be a good start to stop arming them with modern military equipment and act as if nothing happened. It seems like there is close to no pressure on Saudi Arabia.


Your country, for example, is perfectly capable of tackling mighty Saudi Arabia, of unilaterally acting against them, of enduring the massive price spike in everything from chewing gum to shoes. Step right, up, there's no time like the present.

We are not capable to do much harm to Saudi Arabia. Or better said it would hurt us much more than them, and that wouldn't be worth the effort. And last but not least, my country doesn't really need to care about the danger that is coming from SA, we are not the "Great Satan" and not much of a target.

[Laworkerbee]

I don't know how to handle the "problem" that Saudi Arabia is, but in my opinion it would be a good start to stop arming them with modern military equipment and act as if nothing happened

No Macs the Saudi's need something to piss their money away on besides if not F-15's and Tornado's it would be Mig's and Mirage's.

These high Tech weapons they buy lets the West keep them in check because god forbid some maintenance is needed the Saudi's sure in hell are not going to be able to do it....only western technicians they hire can.

[2Sheds_Jackson]

You make it sound like this is somekind of "Sudan - Somebody please do something !"-Situation... Whatever happened to the US-led "Global War on Terror" ?

Whaaa? No I'm not - you're the one urging action here ...or rather urging that somebody else do something. If it's urgent enough to urge other people to do it, you should be willing to do it yourself, yes?



It should be in the interest of the US and the GWOT to do something about it - Of course no one else is gonna step up much pressure on SA because it simply isn't worth it or isn't much of a interest for most other countries.

If it was in our interest, we would be doing something about it. I think we've demonstrated that. What's going on here is that you're telling us it's in our interest and complaining that we're not acting. Again, hey nobody is holding any of the other 191 UN members back - if you feel the situation is intolerable, go right ahead.



I don't know how to handle the "problem" that Saudi Arabia is, but in my opinion it would be a good start to stop arming them with modern military equipment and act as if nothing happened. It seems like there is close to no pressure on Saudi Arabia.

I can agree with this - but it's obviously a delicate balance and the stakes are beyond huge. Oil makes nuclear weapons look trivial.



We are not capable to do much harm to Saudi Arabia. Or better said it would hurt us much more than them, and that wouldn't be worth the effort. And last but not least, my country doesn't really need to care about the danger that is coming from SA, we are not the "Great Satan" and not much of a target.

But you obviously care enough to tell somebody else to act. How very European. p-) Ok, that was a low blow, and I regret typing it. I only wish I could go back and remove it, but the die is cast, and there's nothing that can be done. Sorry but I couldn't resist - I've just always operated under the principle that you shouldn't require anything of others that you're not willing to do yourself, and this "the US should do XYZ that we're not willing to do" bends me slightly outta shape.

[Macs.]

Whaaa? No I'm not - you're the one urging action here ...or rather urging that somebody else do something. If it's urgent enough to urge other people to do it, you should be willing to do it yourself, yes?

If it was in our interest, we would be doing something about it. I think we've demonstrated that. What's going on here is that you're telling us it's in our interest and complaining that we're not acting. Again, hey nobody is holding any of the other 191 UN members back - if you feel the situation is intolerable, go right ahead.

Not at all. It's like when I am urging my neighbour to fix his broken car, but no way I am doing it for him since it doesn't really negatively affect me.


I can agree with this - but it's obviously a delicate balance and the stakes are beyond huge. Oil makes nuclear weapons look trivial.

So there is a "certain" problem with Saudi Arabia, no ?


But you obviously care enough to tell somebody else to act. How very European. p-)

Well, so far it has proven better than the "Let's do something head-over-heels based on loose-"facts" !"-Tactic... Hohohohohohohohoho