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Dennis G
04-26-2004, 04:57 PM
Anyone ever read any of these books? If so are they worth buying? What did you think of them? What are the photos like in SOG?



SOG
by John L. Plaster



FIGHTING DIRTY
by Peter Harclerode



SEE NO EVIL
by Robert Baer

NcDeuce
04-26-2004, 06:37 PM
http://www.army.mil/cmh-pg/reference/CSAList/CSAList.htm

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Dennis G
04-26-2004, 07:16 PM
good link

Dennis G
04-26-2004, 07:44 PM
how about My Jihad: One American's Journey Through the World of Usama Bin Laden--as a Covert Operative for the American Government


http://images.amazon.com/images/P/0743470591.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg

hist2004
04-26-2004, 08:00 PM
how about My Jihad: One American's Journey Through the World of Usama Bin Laden--as a Covert Operative for the American Government


http://images.amazon.com/images/P/0743470591.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg

Dennis, I would ask some of our Russian friends about Collins. I have the
the book about SOG (Plaster). It was expensive when I purchased it, but
the pictures and text cover MACV-SOG in detail and I felt it was an excellent buy.

Regards,
Hist2004

Obergefreiter
04-26-2004, 09:00 PM
I have my Jihad. Even talked with the author a few times. The book is decent, but even in talking with him I could never quite figure him out.

He talked with me constantly about using WWII SS markings and symbols to scare the Russians. I thought it was interesting, and he speaks well, but I just couldn't figure out if he was sincere or not.

In my opinion, any book by Plaster is worth reading.

Dennis G
04-26-2004, 09:55 PM
I have my Jihad. Even talked with the author a few times. The book is decent, but even in talking with him I could never quite figure him out.

He talked with me constantly about using WWII SS markings and symbols to scare the Russians. I thought it was interesting, and he speaks well, but I just couldn't figure out if he was sincere or not.

In my opinion, any book by Plaster is worth reading.

What government agency did he work for? CIA?

James
04-26-2004, 11:16 PM
See No Evil is a very interesting read. CHeck it out.

Obergefreiter
04-27-2004, 03:09 AM
I have my Jihad. Even talked with the author a few times. The book is decent, but even in talking with him I could never quite figure him out.

He talked with me constantly about using WWII SS markings and symbols to scare the Russians. I thought it was interesting, and he speaks well, but I just couldn't figure out if he was sincere or not.

In my opinion, any book by Plaster is worth reading.

What government agency did he work for? CIA?

He said they wouldn't listen to him. He talks about htem in the book, but hardly mentoned them in passing to me. No one would listen to him even though he tried to tell them everything. He rambled a lot about the FBI and how they would string him along the blow him off, but never talked about the CIA to me. There is a whole chapter in the book about the CIA though. It was odd that he kept going back to them. Too many mixed signals.

The guy is a serious loose canon. Perm can testify to that. He will blow up at the slightest thing. He and Perm did not get along. I stuck up for the guy ust to try to get his side more clearly.

Don't get me wrong, it was a good book. It was just the things he told me afterwards that didn't add up. I would still read it again if I had talked to him first. I think he was just so bitter whan I talked to him that he couldn't focus.

ogukuo72
04-27-2004, 03:22 AM
I've read the book SOG. It's very expensive, so I don't own one, but it's a good book with indepth material on the history, organisation, equipment, and other stuff of the Special Observation Groups in Vietnam.

I've a favourite chapter on the weapons of the SOG, especially a page comparing the Colt Commando with the AK, and explaining why SOG personnel prefer the Colt Commando to the AK.

The impression that Hollywood and quite a few historians like to give is that the American soldiers are out of their depth in Vietnamese jungles, that the US Army was this huge and clumsy machine that could not deal with nimble and dedicated Vietnamese insurgents. This book will show that there were American soldiers equally (if not more) dedicated, professional, competent, and comfortable in the jungle.

You will be impressed by how innovative and brave these SOG personnel are. Like the well trained American elite forces now serving in Afghanistan and Iraq, they were a true credit to their service and to their country .