IED and RPG-7 Hits....

[Brusk]

Here are some Damage caused IED and RPG hits on Humvees

[LEGEND]

Sux, on the first photo you can see the blood on the door...

[Pook2]

There's already been threads on this, and I still don't see why you anyone would care about it here.

[vulpine]

There's already been threads on this, and I still don't see why you anyone would care about it here.

To KNOW your enemy! You want to know what you are going up against. You need to know the charctaristics and capabilities of your enemies weapons so that you can better defeat or counter them.

[el_kab0ng]

Or show the enemy the effectiveness of their attacks so they can adjust tactics...

[Sir Zach of R.]

To KNOW your enemy! You want to know what you are going up against. You need to know the charctaristics and capabilities of your enemies weapons so that you can better defeat or counter them.

I don't think Pentagon employed military analysts monitor this website to gain information about the effects IEDs and RPGs have on vehicles.

[LEGEND]

Are humvees with damage like in the photo refurbished or just written off?

[BadKarma26]

depends on how badly they are damaged. there is a program at the prison in Victorville, CA I toured where they have prisoners working for cheap to rebuild HMMWVs and from what I saw it looked like they were doing a good job.

However, Im always highly suspicious of someone who only has 11 posts and posts pictures of vehicles in which Americans were probably killed

[Insane Tadpole]

depends on how badly they are damaged. there is a program at the prison in Victorville, CA I toured where they have prisoners working for cheap to rebuild HMMWVs and from what I saw it looked like they were doing a good job.

However, Im always highly suspicious of someone who only has 11 posts and posts pictures of vehicles in which Americans were probably killed
lol don't be silly.

[Sloppy Joe2]

Or show the enemy the effectiveness of their attacks so they can adjust tactics...
they should already know because they were at the site of attack.

[nu4idf]

trophy what? tell the us government to open its eyes

[Frost]

trophy what? tell the us government to open its eyes

Open your own eyes and find out that you can't do jack sh!t about IED's and that casualties are simply a part of war. RPG's could be stopped by an anti-missile system, but such a system is very unlikely to be installed on a vehicle as small as the HMMWV.

[vulpine]

Or show the enemy the effectiveness of their attacks so they can adjust tactics...


They are always adjusting their tactics regardless. The insurgents are not stupid. We will counter thier tactics and they will come up with something else. It's a never ending cat and mouse game.

[Masai]

what about that lattice grid they put on the strykers ? would that help a bit ?

[vulpine]

I don't think Pentagon employed military analysts monitor this website to gain information about the effects IEDs and RPGs have on vehicles.


"Petagon employed military analysts" Are you serious? How much information from "analysts" do you think gets filtered down to the common soldier on the ground.

[el_kab0ng]

http://ia311510.us.archive.org/0/items/hnewZ/2o.wmv

That's why posting damage reports is a bad idea. This is by far the best tactical reponse video I've seen coming from the towlies. (No, this is not propaganda!)

They profile several known American/British vehicles then show how to defeat them. Alot of their footage was taken by American soldiers (most likely ripped from the internet!) from inside various vehicles.

[Groove]

Im glad they use heavy armored Humvees and not like in the beginning of OIF this light or not armored one.

[Sir Zach of R.]

"Petagon employed military analysts" Are you serious? How much information from "analysts" do you think gets filtered down to the common soldier on the ground.

It's a moot point. I was stating in a general way that the military doesn't need to observe civilian web-forums to gain information on terrorist and insurgent tactics. You're really reaching now.

[enforcer]

http://www.ezprezzo.com/crazypics/humvee1.jpg

http://www.ezprezzo.com/crazypics/humvee2.jpg

http://www.ezprezzo.com/crazypics/humvee3.jpg

http://www.ezprezzo.com/crazypics/humvee4.jpg

http://www.ezprezzo.com/crazypics/humvee5.jpg

[snoddy]

http://www.ezprezzo.com/crazypics/humvee5.jpg
the poor truck was peppered......thats frickin horrible......
any pics from the inside?

[DevilDogHopeful]

thats frickin horrible...... any pics from the inside?

I wouldn't want to be in that thing.. f*ck that must have been scary as hell. Hope everyone is alright.

[enforcer]

http://graphics.jsonline.com/graphics/news/img/jun05/humvee61305.jpg

1st Lt. Cory Mulhern checks out the shrapnel that pock marked the window of a humvee damaged by a road side bomb. Photo/Meg Jones



Saved by 4-inch-thick glass

A humvee parked out in the lot at Patrol Base Olson used to look like all the rest of them here. Now it’s scrap. This morning, a U.S. military unit that lives here at Olson, a regular Army unit that’s separate from Charlie Co., was on a convoy when a road side bomb exploded as one of the humvees motored by. It happened near the spiral minaret, a landmark just north of the patrol base, and an area that Charlie Co. frequently drives past. The front tires were flattened, the engine hood was blown apart and shrapnel pock marked various parts of the engine and front passenger door and window. Fortunately the injuries were only minor.

1st Lt. Cory Mulhern, the executive officer of Charlie Co., pointed out holes in the driver’s side front tire. "You can see what the shrapnel did because this is the exit," he said, meaning the shrapnel would have traveled underneath and across the engine to blast through the tire on the other side of where the 155mm artillery round exploded.

He said the ballistic glass on the humvees - Model 1114s - which are the same ones Charlie Co. drives, is expensive but saves a lot of lives. A ballistic glass windshield costs about $2,500 on the $150,000 vehicles, said Mulhern. On the passenger side window were several holes that looked like bullet holes - it reminded me of the final scene of the movie "Bonnie and Clyde" - but were spots where shrapnel banged against the 4-inch-thick glass. "If this had been a regular humvee, you’d have four guys who wouldn’t be coming home," Mulhern said.

The humvee could no longer be driven so the soldiers hooked it up to another humvee in the convoy, which towed the damaged vehicle back to Patrol Base Olson. I saw the soldiers who were in the humvee afterward and they told me what happened. They looked rattled. Understandably so.

taken from www.jsonline.com/news/site/weblogs.asp?id=61 (http://www.jsonline.com/news/site/weblogs.asp?id=61)

[Sir Zach of R.]

Could anyone offer up some insight as to the different metals used in the up-armored Humvees? The doors are peppered and dented but the gunner's shield is barely marred. I'm guessing aluminum on the doors and cold steel for the air guard's plates.

[Vince S]

The metal used for the gunner plate must be highly modified...

-heat threated
-upgraded mechanical properties

I'm guessing manganese added to this one or maybe some kind of tool steel

[snoddy]

the gunners sheild is nailed enough, the force of the blast was pointed more downward as you can tell by looking at the pics.... the higher up you go the less damage youll see..... i always thought the sheild was just welded steel, id like to know what it is? i know its heavy as all hell:|

[Andrew Chalmers]

There are many different grades of steel... my guess would be that the armor plating uses some variation of 4300 series... Ni/Cr/Mo steel alloys...

Don't presume that the shield was better able to resist the ball bearings... the shield may have been facing another direction or the IED was placed in a manner so that when the bearings hit the shield the bearings glanced off instead of impacting the vertical surface of the vehicle.

[snoddy]

There are many different grades of steel... my guess would be that the armor plating uses some variation of 4300 series... Ni/Cr/Mo steel alloys... Don't presume that the shield was better able to resist the ball bearings... the shield may have been facing another direction or the IED was placed in a manner so that when the bearings hit the shield the bearings glanced off instead of impacting the vertical surface of the vehicle. well spoken..... has that clamore look to it.... they can aim those things, little bastards...... and those shape charges, scary.....

[Fakum12]

or the IED was placed in a manner so that when the bearings hit the shield the bearings glanced off instead of impacting the vertical surface of the vehicle.
I think this was the case. If you look closely you can see that the impacts on the shield have rough upper edges.