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John_J
03-08-2007, 10:15 AM
Heres a video from the view of the insurgents, apperently in AL-Fallujah. This video doesnt contain any propaganda, which i believe is very rare. In the middle you can see the shelling of an area, I dont know if it is American or from the insurgents....I would guess by the US.



http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=4d8_1173332781


if its a repost, sorry. And i hope i do not violate against the rules...

Dronetek
03-08-2007, 10:21 AM
I saw it this morning. It's pretty wild seeing that American artty incoming. At one point you here someone shooting back at the insurgents, but it sound slike AK fire. Im guessing they were shooting at Iraqi forces.

1911-a1
03-08-2007, 10:34 AM
The guy who was jumping around and shooting from the hip was funny :D

Chulo
03-08-2007, 10:39 AM
is it captured raw footage? or did they themselves leak it out?

Dronetek
03-08-2007, 10:52 AM
Im guessing it was captured, as it has no music or waving flag logos. Usually when you see them like this, they were captured before the editing could be done.

imohammed2
03-08-2007, 11:14 AM
explains why dozens of insurgents are killed/captured everyday

sometimes insurgent casualties are in the hundreds

.izi
03-08-2007, 11:50 AM
explains why dozens of insurgents are killed/captured everyday

sometimes insurgent casualties are in the hundreds


Do you have any sources for that? I'm just curious.

Shadow
03-08-2007, 11:50 AM
I wonder if they even hit sh!t when they are jumping around firing from their hips just to be gang$ta.

Createdeemcee
03-08-2007, 11:51 AM
Thats the first time I have ever seen Arty on the recieving end, must be pure hell, sounds like a nightmare.

Createdeemcee
03-08-2007, 11:53 AM
Do you have any sources for that? I'm just curious.


Do you not read the news, or visit us often??? I see you dont have many posts, but more than a few times weekly you will find irrefutable proof posted here that shows insurgents bound and gagged, and more often than that pic's of them dead as door nails. Stay Tuned!

Mortarman
03-08-2007, 12:19 PM
Nice find! Makes an old redleg like myself euphoric with delight.

Canuck Farrier
03-08-2007, 12:44 PM
Im glad those guys dont shoot propertly.p-)

DelMonte
03-08-2007, 01:10 PM
OLD video from beginning of war, probably 2003\04, before they even had logos to put on their videos.

Took Place in Fallujah

AK54
03-08-2007, 01:17 PM
Thats the first time I have ever seen Arty on the recieving end, must be pure hell, sounds like a nightmare.
never seen this?

http://youtube.com/watch?v=zzjx5Nv9m-w

Hypno85
03-08-2007, 01:36 PM
LOL They cant shoot for sh*t.

artinist
03-08-2007, 01:43 PM
they are as skilled as borat.

.izi
03-08-2007, 01:59 PM
Do you not read the news, or visit us often??? I see you dont have many posts, but more than a few times weekly you will find irrefutable proof posted here that shows insurgents bound and gagged, and more often than that pic's of them dead as door nails. Stay Tuned!


Well sure I've seen pics an videos of captured and killed terrorists. But it is hard to guess the numbers because those are only little excerpts of the whole.

After reading your post, I thought you may have some concrete numbers of the amount of killed and captured terrorists.

artinist
03-08-2007, 02:10 PM
Well sure I've seen pics an videos of captured and killed terrorists. But it is hard to guess the numbers because those are only little excerpts of the whole.

After reading your post, I thought you may have some concrete numbers of the amount of killed and captured terrorists.

according to CNN, i think we have about 10 terrorist killsp-)

i think there were some numbers floating around a few months back. obviously they showed it for an entire 2 seconds.
i don't remember exactly, but it was some crazy high number, something like 100:1 vs. our losses. the civilian count was pretty high also, but those are mostly due to them killing each other.

Upfrontreporting
03-08-2007, 02:32 PM
This is an old ******* video.

msnger
03-08-2007, 02:39 PM
is there reason behind the noise that artillery makes.

Shadow
03-08-2007, 02:45 PM
is there reason behind the noise that artillery makes.

I'd think that it's caused by air turbulence behinde the shell.

Royal
03-08-2007, 02:50 PM
Thats the first time I have ever seen Arty on the recieving end, must be pure hell, sounds like a nightmare.

That's not the receiving end. You get closer to arty than that on a range.


is there reason behind the noise that artillery makes.

It's called echoes.

Slinky
03-08-2007, 02:55 PM
Thats actually pretty good footage, none of that shaking camera or idiotic songs and annoying symbols

AK-Lover
03-08-2007, 03:37 PM
Excellent footage. I haven't really seen much of this type of footage from the Iraqi side.
And as for the rest of you guys commenting like "they can't shoot for ****" and "they are as skilled as Borat" take another look at the sitaution in Iraq before making smart ass comments. If the insurgents were so dumb they wouldn't be around.

Cpt. Spaulding
03-08-2007, 03:38 PM
donwload link? thx

AMD
03-08-2007, 03:44 PM
Is this dumbass insurgent gonna hit anything when holding AK at his balls?? What a waste of ammo...

jimmyboots
03-08-2007, 03:48 PM
good vid. I couldn't imagine being on the recieving end that ****storm when I was there, so this video is interesting for me. To bad they didn't have any footage shot after sunset...when the gunships woke up.

ag05
03-08-2007, 04:10 PM
Did it seem to anyone else like their AK's were not on full-auto? The only weapon I saw on there that was firing on auto was the PKM.

Alex-L
03-08-2007, 04:38 PM
can somebody host the video on youtube and post it. at work, and aint clicking liveleak

panzrman
03-08-2007, 05:28 PM
Thats the first time I have ever seen Arty on the recieving end, must be pure hell, sounds like a nightmare.


And those sounds on the clip just gave me the heebie jeebies. Sounds I never wanted to hear again.

1911-a1
03-08-2007, 05:39 PM
Is this dumbass insurgent gonna hit anything when holding AK at his balls?? What a waste of ammo...

Maybe he thinks that his god is going to do all the hard work for him :D

DevilDogHopeful
03-08-2007, 05:53 PM
Maybe he thinks that his god is going to do all the hard work for him :D

I've heard that. Something about Allah making the bullets hit the enemy.

constantinople
03-08-2007, 07:38 PM
the first part where they are shooting looked like counter strike when you are in float mode and watching the terrorist players jump around and shooting. kinda funny

Heinemann
03-08-2007, 10:07 PM
I dont have any military training yet I wouldnt shoot like that, its not like it takes years of experiance to learn how to fire a AK properly?

Calanen
03-08-2007, 10:49 PM
I read some article maybe in Time where a US military guy was saying that the hardest part about training Iraqi army and police officers was convincing them it was more important to focus on aiming than to fire shouting 'Allah Akbar'.

dedgod
03-08-2007, 11:18 PM
Excellent footage. I haven't really seen much of this type of footage from the Iraqi side.
And as for the rest of you guys commenting like "they can't shoot for ****" and "they are as skilled as Borat" take another look at the sitaution in Iraq before making smart ass comments. If the insurgents were so dumb they wouldn't be around.

they aren't dumb, but they can't shoot either....ive seen a number of discover and military channel documentaries where uS soldiers say the same thing....and a lot of them have said they;d be dead if the errorists could shoot better..

IEDs on the other hand are a real threat...much more than a firefight...

Obviously there are exceptions...

Stu B
03-09-2007, 04:36 AM
At the beginning of the video one is looking down the sights as he fires, after that they are all shooting from the hip. Perhaps they can't see any targets and are just throwing bullets down the steet as suppressive fire. There is a lot of footage of US soldiers in vietnam shooting without aiming. It used to be accepted military thinking that it was the amount of ammunition put downrage that was important, but more recently armys have started to appreciate the value of good markmenship again.

Stu B
03-09-2007, 04:41 AM
It would be interesting to know what percentage of insurgents killed by US forces have been killed by small arms fire. I would have thought it was quite small and that they are usually killed by gunships, airstrikes, tank fire and snipers.

Snoshi
03-09-2007, 05:48 AM
How can they hit anything longer then 10m? I dont know how dumb you can be to shoot from the hip..

Zerodivider
03-09-2007, 06:12 AM
The videos that do show them hitting are not allowed on here...

Brusk
03-09-2007, 06:28 AM
Only a Soldier knows that Bro, but those only like the shooting, and they dont care who will be shot by these random rounds, god help iraqis...

1911-a1
03-09-2007, 07:27 AM
does anyone have the link to the video where an insurgent is shooting from the hip jumping around and then some of his bullets hit a wall and bounces back into him?

imohammed2
03-10-2007, 03:52 PM
Do you have any sources for that? I'm just curious.

no, but that's the trend

snoddy
03-10-2007, 04:08 PM
does anyone have the link to the video where an insurgent is shooting from the hip jumping around and then some of his bullets hit a wall and bounces back into him?
its on youtube or liveleak... wicked funny.... silly iwacki.....

DevilDogHopeful
03-10-2007, 04:11 PM
does anyone have the link to the video where an insurgent is shooting from the hip jumping around and then some of his bullets hit a wall and bounces back into him?

I don't think I've ever seen that video...... I need to see that video!

snoddy
03-10-2007, 04:18 PM
I don't think I've ever seen that video...... I need to see that video!here it is

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=9ce_1172673417

1911-a1
03-10-2007, 04:20 PM
I don't think I've ever seen that video...... I need to see that video!


http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=9ce_1172673417

i just found it again :D

DevilDogHopeful
03-10-2007, 04:21 PM
here it is

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=9ce_1172673417

rofl rofl That's a good one. Thanks.

BTW could that have been return fire? I've never seen a 7.62 blow up like that..

EDIT: Too late 1911-a1. :-D Thanks anyway bro.

1911-a1
03-10-2007, 04:24 PM
Could be return fire but it looks like he steps away from the camera and when he does that he also hits the wall and the riccochet hits him and the ground. Thats my theory :p

DevilDogHopeful
03-10-2007, 04:29 PM
Could be return fire but it looks like he steps away from the camera and when he does that he also hits the wall and the riccochet hits him and the ground. Thats my theory :p

Could be.. either way good video.

DaDaddy(Fin)(UK)
03-10-2007, 06:59 PM
Using automatic weapons in the observed way is total waste of ammunition. (even in supressive fire the aim is to supress the enemy with accurate short pursts of fire)
Reminds me from one of our own wars with russians where we lost 26.000 in deaths compared to russians 126.000
It was later calculated that 98% of the small calipre ammunation used by soviet troops were wasted by poor shooting ablity.

-Tr. (fin)