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EvanL
06-20-2003, 12:01 AM
http://www.specwargear.com/images/photo-SAS-1.jpg

http://www.hkpro.com/image/action2saswindow.jpg

http://www.greendevils.pl/jednostki_specjalne/sbs/sbs3.jpg

http://www.expeditionexchange.com/action/01.jpg[/img]

OzMan
06-20-2003, 12:32 AM
I heard that first pic was just a bunch of airsofters with some really good kit. That last one is really cool. I like the SAS pic of the guy rappelling down with the 20rd magazine sticking from his 226. Used to have that one as my desktop background.

elguapo
06-20-2003, 12:35 AM
here these ain't no airsofters
:)


http://www.tropaselite.hpg.ig.com.br/sas_falklands_mochilas_equipe_de_4.gif

Piccolo
06-20-2003, 01:22 AM
First pic is undoubtably fake. First, the picture is way too close for comfort in the usual style the SAS handle their security. Also, notice the finger on the trigger by the last guy. If that isn't enough, it's from specwargear.net, which has a section specificaly for airsoft teams and their gear.

EvanL
06-20-2003, 01:29 AM
my bad. sorry mates.

BiZ
06-20-2003, 05:02 AM
The first photo is a fake/mock up etc.
It's from the blokes who run the Military supply shot Platypus Outdoors, who supply/sell AusCam webbing gear etc under the name Plat-a-tac.

They have a few photos like this for selling their gear, used in their brochures etc, and they never claim to be anything they aren't, it's people who them 'lift" the photos and post them elsewhere who claim them to be something they aren't.

I remember the owner of Platypus Outdoors posted under one of the Aussie SF albums in relation to a vest.

Oh yeah, it's an Aussie company....Melbourne to be specific.

Royal
06-20-2003, 01:12 PM
here these ain't no airsofters
:)


http://www.tropaselite.hpg.ig.com.br/sas_falklands_mochilas_equipe_de_4.gif

Fake it may not be. Regiment it ain't. Just 'cos one of the lads has an SAS/Para bergan. Judging by the fact that one of them's carrying a Sterling (and wearing glasses), they're remf's of some sort. Also anyone vaguely 'high-speed' would have worn an arctic or SAS windproof down there...

CX20
06-20-2003, 02:40 PM
You beat me to it Royal, I was just about to post the same thing. No way are they SF. They are definitely some kind of REMFs - they have standard '58 pattern webbing with ressie pouches. I confess I looked at the website this pic is from, the Regiment section there is full of suspect photos to say the least.

If anyone wants to see what the lads were really wearing during the Falklands, read Falklands Commando by Hugh McManners, an excellent book with plenty of full colour pics. When you see those pictures, you will see how those lads in the pic above are obviously NOT SF. Funnily enough McManners' photos are all minus the sexy "anonymity" black eye strips - his solicitor stated that the lads in the pictures would have aged since the event, and would have changed out of recognition.

elguapo
06-20-2003, 02:46 PM
Oh, I see. Thanks for the explanation Royal.

I found this other photo on the same website about the SAS in the falklands. Could you identify this guy???

What I find very odd about this pic is the close-up of his face. Maybe it's a movie still hun? :)


"SAS Observation post"
http://www.tropaselite.hpg.ig.com.br/sas_po_falklands.JPG

CX20
06-20-2003, 05:36 PM
Nice sarcasm, but sadly thats a well known picture of a team from the Royal Marines Mountain and Arctic Warfare Cadre (now Brigade Patrol Troop). I've seen the same picture from different angles before in an official publication. It is posed for the camera, why else would they be exposed as they are on a hilltop when there was a significant threat from Argie helicopters and Pucaras?

Like I said before, that website has quite a few "suspect" photos, mixed in with a handful of real but very old photos. The whole website smacks of a rather "amateurish" wannabe atmosphere.

I'll try and dig out my copy of Falklands Commando, so I scan some of the photos and show you what the lads were really upto in the Falklands.

elguapo
06-20-2003, 07:08 PM
Well actually i wasn't being sarcastic since I did not know the photo and in that website it's is possible to see pictures of the movie BHD and even an airsofter from milmorons.com labeled as a Delta!

Sorry if I came through the wrong way.

Bodafon
06-22-2003, 05:31 PM
Do the SAS allow people with specs in? What if the person were to wear contacts?[/list]

Argyll
06-22-2003, 05:51 PM
58 pattern was the issued webbing in 82 during the Falklands conflict.
The 2nd guy from the left has Paras wings,Subdued on his right shoulder too.

Royal
06-23-2003, 08:14 AM
58 pattern was the issued webbing in 82 during the Falklands conflict.
The 2nd guy from the left has Paras wings,Subdued on his right shoulder too.

So he's a para loggie, medic, gunner or sapper (although I doubt the last two). Could even be from the Blues & Royals (now the HCR) (they had/have an airbourne trained element - although again I doubt it.).

They're remfs - probably 5 Inf Bde (IMHO).

No-one (or virtualy no one out of training) in any infantry unit used '58 kidney pouches as the guy on the extreme right has - we all used extra water bottle pouches.

Argyll
06-23-2003, 10:35 AM
That depended on your Regiments SOPs,our CO and RSM never liked custom webbing,with such things as QR belts,SAS pouches,extra ware bottle pouches etc,they didn't want the Regiment to be branded cowboys,it was uniformity ALL ROUND,with no exceptions,even on exercise,it was taboo,it wasn't until the late 80's that we were allowed to use custom rigs,we all had them when I was Recce plt,that's when Arktis started pumping out the chest rigs etc,the pld QM used to go nuts when he saw the irregular web gear we used to wear.
I recall when in Colchester I went to Silvermans in London,to buy an SAS smock,and a few other bits,it cost me £100 back then,plus another **** load for the SAS bergen(bigger than the bogstandard one),only to have the QM go ballistic I wasn't wearing issued gear,half the Recce platoon almost bought out a Survival shop,with all the gear.The CO came along looked at the gear asked the Missions tasks(CTR),then told the QM to get a life,and let his boys get on with it!!

Michael RVR
05-03-2004, 02:15 AM
There was a brief period over here where alot of the reg battallions wanted to make it all issued gear. A mate of mine in 1 RAR said it was all adopted, then Recon managed to get an exemption to use chest webbing, then Mortars / DF got them, and on it flowed and i'm told now any of the digs can wear what they want to.