Question Re: AS-565SA Panther of UAE Navy

[Dark Avenger]

What weapons is it certified to carry?
http://img216.imageshack.us/img216/5873/0730717lb4.th.jpg (http://img216.imageshack.us/my.php?image=0730717lb4.jpg)
I have seen a photo of one with four AS-15TT missiles, but I wonder if it can carry torpedoes, other missiles, unguided rockets or guns.
Thanks in advance,
DA

[Silent_Hunter]

http://www.junshijia.com/ziliao/mil2/pic/zsj/Z-9G.jpg

Z-9 with Weapon

[Ronguild]

UAE AS-565Sa have no ASW capabilities.
RADAR : THOMSON-CSF (now THALES) AGRION
MISSILE : AS-15TT (no more produced)
ESM : ELIPS suite.

The ASW chopper in emirati service is COUGAR with FLASH (THALES UNDERWATER SYSTEM) and MU-90 torpedoes.

[Dark Avenger]

@ Silent Hunter: Thanks, but I am looking for information on the AS-565 specifically. The Z-9 is a well covered subject.
@ Ronguild: Given the French penchant for specialisation in helicopter mission tasking, I would not be surprised if the AS-15TT is the only weapon certified to the Emirati Panthers. What I need is to know if they have any alternate armament arrangements.

Here's another photo, showing the weapons pylons and the AS-15TT:

http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/174/as565sapantheruaenavy02kw8.th.jpg (http://img137.imageshack.us/my.php?image=as565sapantheruaenavy02kw8.jpg)

[Silent_Hunter]

http://www.helibras.com.br/upload/produto/militar_AS_565_missel_gde.jpg http://www.helibras.com.br/upload/produto/militar_AS_565_voo1_gde.jpg

AS565AB with Cannon

http://www.helibras.com.br/detProdutos.asp?codProduto=29&linha=M&area=I&img=5

[Silent_Hunter]

http://www.eurocopter.com/site/docs_wsw/fichiers_communs/images/histdauph30g.jpg

AS565SA

[Silent_Hunter]

Z-9G Harbin for the PAF?
http://timawa.net/forum/index.php?topic=7126.0
Quote from: bustero on March 08, 2007, 10:47:46 am
Got to talk with the Chinese Representative again. He set a few things right and some very interesting things:
Apparently, This has already been declared a failed bid as not enough bidders have met the TOR. Notification to this effect has already been sent out and is public record already.
The AFP is now conducting a negotiated sale with the interested qualified parties of whom there is only one: the Chinese.no wonder he was very confident
There were only 2 offers, the Chinese one and the American one and as per requirements of the TOR of the Bid, the Americans had bid with APACHES. That's why it was mostly bare. Also as per policy the American bid did not include bundled aftermarket parts and servide. Apparently the new policy is to offer each "intervention" on a per service part basis off a menu , making the whole contract de facto more expensive. So for each instance where they needed to have A or B checks they needed to get it quoted and priced on an individual basis, a big nono for the AFP since their preference is that several years of aftermarket parts and service be included. Also as it's easy to check the price of an individual apache fully loaded but not armed is way through the roof of budget. It was not even close.
The TOR of the AFP precluded Cobras, the heli's are to be used exclusively at night and should have the capability to fly from their base in NCR/Southern Luzon to Palawan and back without refueling! This last part was apparently a very difficult part of the TOR. BAsically the AFP was after Apaches. So now they will get z-9g's. These will be modified to a certain level of armor above what we have read, how much higher still is up for negotiation. Most of the chopper including avionics is used and produced by other countries as well as it still is a very used active helicopter, making it easy to procure parts and service, a big plus the AFP wanted, after the expected 2 year support.
Presently they will be flying a party of the AFP to China (confirmed because I was selling him the tickets that's why we've been talking) for demonstrations etc (junket). They expect that the negotiations will close by May since it is now a negotiated sale and has different rules and timeline.
Interesting developments. If we can verify the fact that the notification for failed bid has indeed been issued (this should be public right) then his story does have a lot of credence. Of course he still is a supplier and by definition an interested party with an agenda so keep your salt shakers handy!

[Silent_Hunter]

http://www.helibras.com.br/upload/produto/militar_AS_565_missel_gde.jpg http://www.helibras.com.br/upload/produto/militar_AS_565_voo1_gde.jpg

AS565AB with Cannon

http://www.helibras.com.br/detProdutos.asp?codProduto=29&linha=M&area=I&img=5

http://batfredland.free.fr/Cpp_AS365Panther.jpg

AS 565 with More Weapon

[Dark Avenger]

Thanks Silent Hunter, but I was referring specifically to Emirati Panthers, to make sure that I'd do no goof if I made a model of an AS-565SA with, say, a NC-621 gun pod on one of the pylons.