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Crassus
03-10-2007, 09:18 AM
From http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic.php?t=116977&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0


Did Peiper ever ordered personally killings of POWs?

Yes, he did.

The prosecution brought up the killing of an GI, directly ordered by Peiper himself on December 19, 1944, a temporary command post was established by Adjutant SS-Hauptsturmführer Hans Gruhle, SS-Obersturmführer Rudi Mäule and SS-Untersturmführer Horst Krause at Stoumont. There, an angry Peiper personally ordered radio operator SS-Unterscharführer Hans Hillig to shoot an U.S. prisoner: “Peiper was talking to the man in a foreign tongue. The prisoner only answered the first sentence which was asked by Peiper. Peiper continued talking to the prisoner, but the prisoner remained mute. At the end of the interview, the prisoner gave a very short answer. Peiper was then very angry and shouted. "Hillig! Shoot this man and lay him next to the anti-aircraft gun." I led the prisoner away towards the location which was indicated to me by Peiper. When I was about 75 meters away from Peiper, he shouted after me, "That is far enough." I had a pistol with me, but one machine pistol and I let someone hand me a machine pistol from my vehicle...I took the machine pistol and fired one shot into the region of the American prisoner’s heart. He collapsed immediately. As he lay on the ground, I shot him once more through the temple to make sure he was dead...I returned to Peiper who was still standing on the same spot, and I reported to him that I had executed his order.”
Most astonishing, when in 1948 all the "Persil Scheine"-- fake affidavits were produced, Hillig insisted, that he told the truth [which was admitted by several of Peipers men] and he is not willing to change the story in favour of Peiper. Danny Parker (his book will be published in 2008 by DaCapo Press, it is already announced) will detailed describ the change of affidavits by pressure of German lawyers.

The other better known case is the killing about the end of December or the beginning of January 1945 by SS-Unterscharführer Otto Wichmann of a captured GI at the Tank Regiment Command Post at Petit Thier, were Peiper, SS-Sturmbannführer Dr. Kurt Sickel, SS-Hauptsturmführer Hans Gruhle and SS-Sturmbannführer Werner Poetschke have been. The Body was later discoverd 300 meters from the post in a forrest, exactly, were Wichmann had described it.

Nevertheless, as he was the "brillant" leader and "all of his men admired him and loved him", it is strange, that his fans did not find it somehow strange, that Peiper "never had control and never knew anything", when his men killed Russian, Italian and Belgian civilians, as well as US POWs.

capixaba
03-10-2007, 05:58 PM
What's the point of posting this here - just lifted off another forum? There are loads of threads on Axis Forum going round in circles pro and anti Peiper - best to go there read about it there in context.
It's a fact they killed some of our POWs and we killed some of theirs - when it happened in the West it became high profile. On the Eastern Front it was "normal" procedure on both sides. I have a feeling some of the German (particularly SS units) that moved back to the Western front killed POWs (and civillians) and were neither up nor down about it purely because that was what they had been used to in the East.

Tiger75
03-10-2007, 09:49 PM
Yeah and so what..........He was a great commander that had proved himself more than once....

And yes he ordered some nasty stuff also.....

This has been covered heaps and I am sure that there is no new info on this topic......


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Ngati Tumatauenga
03-11-2007, 12:37 AM
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I'm curious as to why you would do that?

Hollis
03-11-2007, 12:58 AM
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88 as in HH?

Sgt Kanderer
03-11-2007, 07:36 AM
88 as in HH?

smells not good !