Fake Marine

[Maj C]

I hate it when people do this...that is why I'm always suspicious of guys who tell me there were in the 'nam man...or something else. They're always special forces too. If you're going to impersonate why not just be a supply clerk Lance Corporal - why do they always try to be a Navy Cross winner or something?

http://www.dailyrecord.com/news/articles/news1-falsemarine.htm

[b00n]

Thats why i dont wear rank or unit patches when i am playing airsoft. just my 11 purple hearts and my 17 medal of honors and 8 silver cross medals :|

[MolliG]

... also with airsofters...

But not Paintballers, Re-Enactors and Collectors? :| :roll:

[Maj C]

I don't have a problem with people playing games - it's the ones who try to say they were in the sh**.

[b00n]

"still here - done nothing"

p-)

[Fintin]

i dont get the point of why people do this....collect the stuff...wear it around the house if your that fruity....this is like the tron guy.....think about it....fine your a big fan...but you dont wear the costume outside unless played the roll....airsofters....i dont care about rank....some teams are organized into rank....why i dont know but what ever floats their goat....awards and what not....thats crossing the line....i think they should take people like him and drop him off infront of the real deals getting back from the sand box and let them have a go....or better yet drop him off on the front lines and let him play for real....

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And for instance when you see royalty in UK wearin military uniforms with a tonne of medals on, it gets kind of annoying, and there was a picture of charly boy in Iraq with a para beret on and badge.

I have no problem with that, it's their role and many of them have served in the armed forces, and more so than Bush that's for sure.

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Quick google search revealed:


Over the next five years, Charles was committed to the military forces. Within that time, he graduated from a Sub Lieutenant to Captain of his own ship. Although not the ablest of seamen, he proved himself kind and thoughtful and was known for running a very happy ship. After five years, however, still blighted by homesickness, he was glad to end his service.

Prince Charles' armed services bio (http://www.princeofwales.gov.uk/about/bio_armed_services.html)

[Uncle Sam]

"People who wear these medals falsely do a great disservice to those who earned them. Many Marines have died to serve our country and rightly earn their awards posthumously"

Amen.

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most of his medals are honorary gifts from foreign governments which he's no doubt expected to wear:


1969.07.15 Commander Grand Cross, the Order of the White Rose of Finland
1971.10.05 Grand Cordon, the Supreme Order of the Chrysanthemum (Japan)
1972.04.11 Grand Cross, the Order of the House of Orange (Netherlands)
1972.06.13 Grand Cross, the Order of the Oak Crown (Luxembourg)
1974.04.30 Knight, Order of the Elephant (Denmark)
1975.02.23 The Most Glorious Order of the Ojaswi Rajanya (Nepal)
1977 The Order of the Star of Ghana
1978 Grand Cross with Collar, the Order of St Olav (Norway)
1978 Grand Cross, the Order of the Southern Cross (Brazil)
1981 Collar, the Order of the Republic (Egypt)
1982.11.16 Knight Grand Cross, the Order of Orange-Nassau (Netherlands)
1984.10.23 Grand Cordon, the Order of the Legion of Honour (French Republic)
1985.04.16 Grand Commander, the Order of the Lion of Malawi (Malawi)
1986 The Order of al-Khalifa, 1st class (Bahrain)
1986 Collar, the Order of Merit (Qatar)
1986.04.22 Grand Cross, the Most Distinguished Order of Carlos III (Spain)
1987.03.24 The King Abdul Aziz Order of Merit, 1st class (Saudi Arabia)

[NcDeuce]

"People who wear these medals falsely do a great disservice to those who earned them. Many Marines have died to serve our country and rightly earn their awards posthumously"

Amen.

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FBI agent Thomas A. Cottone, who was at the funeral, said that Carlson was at the funeral wearing a Marine Corps dress uniform with 24 medals. The uniform bore insignias indicating rank of captain.

"When I saw him wearing those medals, I knew right away what he was doing," said Cottone, who specializes in apprehending people who illegally wear military awards, particularly Congressional Medals of Honor.

Cottone, a parishioner at Our Lady of the Mountain Church, said Carlson first claimed to have earned the medals but later admitted that he had never served in the military.

Deserves a :bash:

Glad I haven't heard of anything like that here.

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most of his medals are honorary gifts from foreign governments which he's no doubt expected to wear:


1969.07.15 Commander Grand Cross, the Order of the White Rose of Finland
1971.10.05 Grand Cordon, the Supreme Order of the Chrysanthemum (Japan)
1972.04.11 Grand Cross, the Order of the House of Orange (Netherlands)
1972.06.13 Grand Cross, the Order of the Oak Crown (Luxembourg)
1974.04.30 Knight, Order of the Elephant (Denmark)
1975.02.23 The Most Glorious Order of the Ojaswi Rajanya (Nepal)
1977 The Order of the Star of Ghana
1978 Grand Cross with Collar, the Order of St Olav (Norway)
1978 Grand Cross, the Order of the Southern Cross (Brazil)
1981 Collar, the Order of the Republic (Egypt)
1982.11.16 Knight Grand Cross, the Order of Orange-Nassau (Netherlands)
1984.10.23 Grand Cordon, the Order of the Legion of Honour (French Republic)
1985.04.16 Grand Commander, the Order of the Lion of Malawi (Malawi)
1986 The Order of al-Khalifa, 1st class (Bahrain)
1986 Collar, the Order of Merit (Qatar)
1986.04.22 Grand Cross, the Most Distinguished Order of Carlos III (Spain)
1987.03.24 The King Abdul Aziz Order of Merit, 1st class (Saudi Arabia)

ok ok sorry,geeze.......

that's cool I just have to defend all things British a lot on this site, so I overdo it sometimes :D

[catdat]

Mantis wrote:

Can that fake marine dude get put in prison for doing what hes doin?

Mantis you get a F in reading comprehension. From the article :

FBI agent Thomas A. Cottone, who was at the funeral, said that Carlson was at the funeral wearing a Marine Corps dress uniform with 24 medals. The uniform bore insignias indicating rank of captain.

"When I saw him wearing those medals, I knew right away what he was doing," said Cottone, who specializes in apprehending people who illegally wear military awards, particularly Congressional Medals of Honor.

FBI agents dont run around "apprehending people" to issue warnings or misdemeanors.

I never understand why anyone would fake being a Marine. An Army Tanker maybe I could see that.

I tried to sign up for the Marines but I couldn't pass the test.

[Spearin]

Ye that annoys me aswell, also with airsofters.

And for instance when you see royalty in UK wearin military uniforms with a tonne of medals on, it gets kind of annoying, and there was a picture of charly boy in Iraq with a para beret on and badge.

So, should Prince Andrew not be seen pictured here...

http://www.commando.org/albums/parades/aaa.jpg

... even though he was the Canadian Airborne Regiment's Colonel-in-Chief?

[Vance]

... also with airsofters...

But not Paintballers, Re-Enactors and Collectors? :| :roll:
Re-enacting is a different story, as far as patches go.

[Saranof]

As for airsodting/ paintballing/ reenacting with insignias an patches and the like, you could say that you ware a para badge for example out of respect for what they do and because you think they are badass. Dosn't mean you think you are one, although playing with the thought for a couple of hours dosn't do any harm ;)

[Hellman109]

Just be glad he wasnt ripping people out of money (there are a fair few cases of fake nam vets doing this). Although it does disrespect everyone who has earned the medals, atleast he wasnt conning people out of money.

[ZoneOne]

Well Mantis -- When i go out and dress in my BDU's which have no name except my own... there isnt any medals or anything of that sort

I just dress to look as much like someone in the Army as possible and then i get my game on


so b/c of that you dont like me

well b/c of your name Mantis - i dont like you

where does that leave us -- except in a world on UN NEEDED hate

[bolter9]

... also with airsofters...

But not Paintballers, Re-Enactors and Collectors? :| :roll:

Yeah them to........

i think there was a big topic on all of the wearing military insignia thing ages ago.

Uh oh...this guy (Mantis) is definitely a WPW..."Web Professional Wannabe"....I mean after all he's using a forum which is steeped in internet technology.... he was probably even sitting in a chair at a desk when he posted- which is totally what real "Web professionals" do...

Hope he's never used Photoshop or dabbled in HTML...or...even built his own website...cause his WPW meter would be way off the charts :D

[martinexsquaddie]

the fat playboy did actually earn those medals :|
although I'd be more impressed if he lead them over an assualt course hey we are paying for his lifestyle at least he can do is give us some laughs :lol:

[hahaha]

When medals are awarded I'm assuming that proper records are kept indicating who has been awarded the medal in the past, why bother faking it when you know that there is a chance that you will get caught if people investigate you.

[Fintin]

When medals are awarded I'm assuming that proper records are kept indicating who has been awarded the medal in the past, why bother faking it when you know that there is a chance that you will get caught if people investigate you.

cause some people are that armchair.....PASS THE MUSTARD....

[MolliG]

... also with airsofters...

But not Paintballers, Re-Enactors and Collectors? :| :roll:
Re-enacting is a different story, as far as patches go.
I know, I was just 'correcting' the tarnishing
with one brush stroke. Didn't mean to come across arsey Mantis. :)

[bolter9]

Sorry for the confusion Mantis- I'm just trying to make the point that you can call anyone a "wannebe" for anything that they're not officially, but it's pretty absurd to do so- as in since I'm a "web professional" I can call those who aren't, but use the technology, "wannabes"- naturally that would be pretty silly. Anyway, the intended "tongue-in-cheek" nature of the post transcended the limits of the delivery method- sorry 'bout that.

The original thread was about a guy who was missleading people and disrespecting a funeral by posing publicly as a marine. I don't see why that warrents making the airsoft crowd feel stupid for doing what they do- considering that their intentions are probably not so beguiling.

I play a little paintball myself, and while the reinactment/patches thing really isn't my cup 'o tea either, there's just no need to take every opportunity to pick on the guys who are into that. People who wear those patches know if they've earned them or not, and that's really all that matters.

Ok now that I've taken this thread waaay off topic, I'll get off my soap box.

[ikurinturbiini]

Ye that annoys me aswell, also with airsofters.

And for instance when you see royalty in UK wearin military uniforms with a tonne of medals on, it gets kind of annoying, and there was a picture of charly boy in Iraq with a para beret on and badge.

So, should Prince Andrew not be seen pictured here...

http://www.commando.org/albums/parades/aaa.jpg

... even though he was the Canadian Airborne Regiment's Colonel-in-Chief?

IIRC, he flew a helicopter in the Falklands. I remember seeing a photo in the early '80s. Will try to find it...

[Abolith]

I wore my Gandfathers medals that he earned in WW2 to honnor him at his funeral.
I have never touched them since (in a glass case). I always thought that was acceptable but I never made the claim that I Earned them, I always said that they were his, and then recounted some of his war stories. One would think that was ok but others here may disagree.....

[Spearin]

I wore my Gandfathers medals that he earned in WW2 to honnor him at his funeral.
I have never touched them since (in a glass case). I always thought that was acceptable but I never made the claim that I Earned them, I always said that they were his, and then recounted some of his war stories. One would think that was ok but others here may disagree.....

Ah yes, I believe that you can wear your father's medals on the right side. Well, that's for Canada anyways... not sure if you are still allowed to do that though.