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Zoomie
03-15-2007, 03:46 PM
Katherine Kersten: The real target of the 6 imams' 'discrimination' suit

By Katherine Kersten, Star Tribune
Last update: March 14, 2007 – 11:04 PM







The "flying imams' " federal lawsuit, filed this week in Minneapolis, has made headlines around the country. The imams are demanding unspecified damages from US Airways and the Metropolitan Airports Commission, both with deep pockets. But their suit includes other defendants, as yet unnamed. These people, unaffiliated with the airline industry or government, are among the imams' most vulnerable targets.Recall the November 2006 incident that gave rise to the suit. The imams engaged in a variety of suspicious behaviors while boarding a US Airways flight, according to the airport police report. Some prayed loudly in the gate area, spoke angrily about the United States and Saddam, switched seats and sat in the 9/11 hijackers' configuration, and unnecessarily requested seatbelt extenders that could be used as weapons, according to witness reports and US Airways spokeswoman Andrea Rader.
After extensive consultations, the pilot asked authorities to remove the imams for questioning, which they did, releasing them later that day.
"The pilot did what he had to do," passenger Rita Snelson of Maplewood told the Star Tribune. "I told the airline afterward, 'Thank you for watching over us.' "
The imams' lawsuit, however, asserts that US Airways and the MAC acted solely out of religious and ethnic discrimination. It includes 17 separate counts.
It also rehearses a catalogue of harms allegedly suffered by the imams, including fear, depression, mental pain and financial injury. They have not only endured exhaustion, humiliation and ridicule, but also have lost sleep and developed anxiety about flying.
Their lawsuit appears to be the latest component in a national campaign to intimidate airlines and government agencies from acting prudently to ensure passenger safety. The Council on American-Islamic Relations, which is advising the imams, is also calling for congressional hearings and promoting federal legislation to "end racial profiling" in air travel. If the legislation passes, airport personnel who disproportionately question passengers who are Muslim or of Middle Eastern origin could be subject to sanctions.
But the most alarming aspect of the imams' suit is buried in paragraph 21 of their complaint. It describes "John Doe" defendants whose identity the imams' attorneys are still investigating. It reads: "Defendants 'John Does' were passengers ... who contacted U.S. Airways to report the alleged 'suspicious' behavior of Plaintiffs' performing their prayer at the airport terminal."
Paragraph 22 adds: "Plaintiffs will seek leave to amend this Complaint to allege true names, capacities, and circumstances supporting [these defendants'] liability ... at such time as Plaintiffs ascertain the same."
In plain English, the imams plan to sue the "John Does," too.
Who are these unnamed culprits? The complaint describes them as "an older couple who was sitting [near the imams] and purposely turn[ed] around to watch" as they prayed. "The gentleman ('John Doe') in the couple ... picked up his cellular phone and made a phone call while watching the Plaintiffs pray," then "moved to a corner" and "kept talking into his cellular phone."
In retribution for this action, the unnamed couple probably will be dragged into court soon and face the prospect of hiring a lawyer, enduring hostile questioning and paying huge legal bills. The same fate could await other as-yet-unnamed passengers on the US Airways flight who came forward as witnesses.
The imams' attempt to bully ordinary passengers marks an alarming new front in the war on airline security. Average folks, "John Does" like you and me, initially observed and reported the imams' suspicious behavior on Nov. 20. Such people are our "first responders" against terrorism. But the imams' suit may frighten such individuals into silence, as they seek to avoid the nightmare of being labeled bigots and named as defendants.
Ironically, on the day the imams filed their suit, a troubling internal memo came to light at the Minneapolis-St. Paul International Airport. The memo revealed that our airport is at particular risk of terrorist attack because of its proximity to the Mall of America, its employment of relatively few security officers and other factors. The memo advised heightened vigilance to counter "this very real and deliberate threat."
The imams may not be the only ones losing sleep and growing more afraid of flying.
Katherine Kersten • kkersten@startribune.com
Source (http://www.startribune.com/191/story/1055656.html)



Some one really needs whack these CAIR idiots upside the head a few times. :bash:

dangerclose
03-15-2007, 03:51 PM
Some one really needs whack these CAIR idiots upside the head a few times. :bash:


Or better yet deport them to the islamic country of their choice.

Mr. JOSHUA
03-15-2007, 03:58 PM
.....not a repost, just putting the article I found the other day up on this one........


http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/showthread.php?t=107292

Five-to-One
03-15-2007, 04:00 PM
Originally Posted by Sgt Sniper http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/images/buttons/viewpost.gif (http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/showthread.php?p=2371003#post2371003)
Some one really needs whack these CAIR idiots upside the head a few times. :bash:



Or better yet deport them to the islamic country of their choice.

No, just Iraq

shocker1
03-15-2007, 04:02 PM
The "flying imams' Is that like the Flying Nun? These guys have no more civil rights on an aircraft than what the Captian says they can. On aircraft, ships ect the Captain makes all the calls on his ship within the law. These men and women with such responsibility must be allowed to make safety decisions, Without fear of legal battles. I thought while the aircraft is in operation from boarding to deplane the crew is the law.

Hollis
03-15-2007, 05:44 PM
We will fight them on the land, we will fight them on the seas and in the air, we will fight them in their courts...

I sort of added to Churchhill speach, but it sounds like our simple little war in Iraq is not only in Iraq. Even if all the MNF pulls out of Iraq, that war is not over. It just comes home. ... wait, it is already here, at least part of it.

vinny_121_ND
03-15-2007, 06:04 PM
Anybody saying obl, and running up and down the plane, asking for seat belt extenders when they are not overweight, and not even explaining to the captain in private what is going on CLEARLY shows a lack of disregard to air travel. I think CAIR should reassess their position on this case.

Firetxmi
03-15-2007, 06:07 PM
We will fight them on the land, we will fight them on the seas and in the air, we will fight them in their courts...

I sort of added to Churchhill speach, but it sounds like our simple little war in Iraq is not only in Iraq. Even if all the MNF pulls out of Iraq, that war is not over. It just comes home. ... wait, it is already here, at least part of it.

I'm confused as to what this case has to do with Iraq.

Hollis
03-15-2007, 06:38 PM
Anybody saying obl, and running up and down the plane, asking for seat belt extenders when they are not overweight, and not even explaining to the captain in private what is going on CLEARLY shows a lack of disregard to air travel. I think CAIR should reassess their position on this case.

When you have a group that is based on and uses intimidation, they will not reassess anything. If they doing anything it will be, in a more aggressive tone.

There is a probability that the "Imams" staged the incident for some ulterior motive.

ctcboy
03-15-2007, 06:44 PM
They should be in jail.

chuckster
03-15-2007, 06:47 PM
The airlines should be sueing the Imams! The Imams intimidated the passengers on the airliner with behavior pre-calculated to cause fear they were hijackers.

I don't understand why the airline doesn't file a suit of their own against the Imams and CAIR.

mas-36
03-15-2007, 08:37 PM
Let's imagine an equivalent in the land of our Ally Saudi Arabia: Council on Saudi-Christian Relations.

How long do you think that would last? Anyone?

I'd give it 2 days, before half of it's members were blown up, and the other half arrested and sentenced to death.

Zoomie
03-19-2007, 09:01 AM
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Miles.
03-19-2007, 09:05 AM
They shouldn't have behaved like religious fanatics on a plane.

Kaapeli
03-19-2007, 11:05 AM
It's almost funny how the American justice system is abused for making money with silly lawsuits.
In almost any other country these people would have been given a personal apology and some complimentary airline tickets for their troubles and that's it, no court case.

Zoomie
03-19-2007, 11:22 AM
It's almost funny how the American justice system is abused for making money with silly lawsuits.
In almost any other country these people would have been given a personal apology and some complimentary airline tickets for their troubles and that's it, no court case.
They WERE offered that! :cantbeli:

seraosha
03-19-2007, 06:00 PM
If this was just a case of misidentification, or even some bias, although not perpetrated by the airline, free tickets on a later flight would have been the end of it.

But these guys were targeting the airline, the media, and now fellow passengers to make this into a big stink.

This was carefully planned and executed...by design.