View Full Version : Russia, St. Peteresburg 03/03/07: Dissident march
Doublethinker
03-17-2007, 01:47 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a7l8352MCEc&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Folgerd%2Dkubler%2Elivejournal%2Ecom%2F84549%2Ehtml%3Fview%3D962117
From ultra-liberals to ultra-conservatives, from neobolsheviks to neoimperalists, from monarchists to republicans - all joined their forces in a single move to show their desire to fight against the corrupt Putin's regime.
Dissident march in St. Petersburg attracted more than 10 thousand people: the main slogans were "Russia without Putin" and "We need different Russia".
United we stand.
Rictor
03-17-2007, 01:54 PM
Ah, the NatsBols. Never fail to put on a good show.
It's funny that they're one of the only opposition groups that's actually active, so all the do-gooder Westerns find themselves cheering on what are essentially socialists and nationalists.
Re-va-luc-iya!
Re-va-luc-iya!
Doublethinker
03-17-2007, 01:56 PM
Ah, the NatsBols. Never fail to put on a good show.
It's funny that they're one of the only opposition groups that's actually active, so all the do-gooder Westerns find themselves cheering on what are essentially socialists and nationalists.
Looks like you didn't really watch the videos attentively. The flags flying include those of Russian monarchists, Russian Orthodox movement, Russian liberals and even EU flag.
And the man talking is Garry Kasparov, leader of the liberal opposition.
redfox0035
03-17-2007, 02:06 PM
Sick show.
Dissident march in St. Petersburg attracted more than 10 thousand people.
It's a BS.
Rictor
03-17-2007, 02:07 PM
No, I saw the old imperial flags, the EU flag and at one point I think even the flag of the Ukrainian SSR. But from what I can tell, and I admit I may be way off, Kasparov and liberals in general wield very little power or support. All the rallies, protests and other actions are usually organized by the Nats Bols, which is why I they're the central axis of whatever opposition, however diverse, exists.
Although I have to say the video is very well made. The music and the way it's edited really creates at atmosphere.
Schizo
03-17-2007, 02:14 PM
LOL, what a freak show!
Neo-Bolshevists...haha, please, did you even watch it before hitting the sumbit button?
redfox0035
03-17-2007, 02:22 PM
LOL, what a freak show! Neo-Bolshevists...haha, please, did you even watch it before hitting the sumbit button?
Kas'yanov, corrupted to the bottom ex-prime minister, as one of the opposition's leaders is an excellent idea!
IvanIII
03-17-2007, 03:28 PM
What a joke all i can say
intelligenzija
03-17-2007, 03:57 PM
lol, then watch this too: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ES-CsQ1_VfI
Wiseman
03-17-2007, 04:08 PM
Gary Kasparov? The chess player? In politics!? Say it aint so.
Gary Kasparov? The chess player? In politics!? Say it aint so.
Mate, that was new to me too, but seems so.. It will be interesting to watch him in the politics with his ability to think few steps ahead.
themacedonian
03-17-2007, 06:31 PM
Gary Kasparov? The chess player? In politics!? Say it aint so.
He is and he was the best chess player and now he is a pawn or at best a bishop.
He is and he was the best chess player and now he is a pawn or at best a bishop.
The best chess player is the computer which won against him. And I bet this computer would do less damage to Russia if became president then Kasparov
chuckster
03-17-2007, 06:41 PM
Hey look guys. The old Russian government traditions where anyone who speaks out against the government risks a one way ticket to Siberia are still alive. Putin is trying to revive the old Russian empire and become another Stalin. Perhaps some of the people who attended this march are a little odd or extremist, but in a society where those who speak out against Putin risk comming up with a strange terminal illness or a sudden fatal 'accident', anyone who challenges this Stalin wannabe deserves a measure of respect!
P.S. Thank God I'm living here in America where I can say whatever I please about Putin without fear.
Switek
03-17-2007, 06:48 PM
P.S. Thank God I'm living here in America where I can say whatever I please about Putin without fear.
Living in Russia You can say whatever about G.W.B. without fear and you can expect be rewarded...
;)
IvanIII
03-17-2007, 07:05 PM
Hey look guys. The old Russian government traditions where anyone who speaks out against the government risks a one way ticket to Siberia are still alive. Putin is trying to revive the old Russian empire and become another Stalin. Perhaps some of the people who attended this march are a little odd or extremist, but in a society where those who speak out against Putin risk comming up with a strange terminal illness or a sudden fatal 'accident', anyone who challenges this Stalin wannabe deserves a measure of respect!
P.S. Thank God I'm living here in America where I can say whatever I please about Putin without fear.
Atleast Russians don't attack others countrys for Oil or personal affairs
and kill 100k of people , and have a media that makes the war look like some video game.
Mamont
03-17-2007, 07:28 PM
Stop before things will get personal.
About Kasparov - when i read the man i thought he had delirium tremens or similar disorder. No wonder one boy hit him with a chessboard..
Switek
03-17-2007, 07:29 PM
Atleast Russians don't attack others countrys for Oil or personal affairs
Not by invasion but by cutting delivery.... :|
Bunch of nazis and idiots... of course switek would support them.
Amusing thing is that if these nuts got in power they would probably be ten times worse than many think putin is.
Switek
03-18-2007, 03:28 AM
Bunch of nazis and idiots... of course switek would support them.
Amusing thing is that if these nuts got in power they would probably be ten times worse than many think putin is.
GazB you simply shut up, and read more posts, moron :bash: ... You just cant bear peple who criticize your president with KGB (which used to act in criminal way, as well) background,
Lokos
03-18-2007, 05:20 AM
GazB you simply shut up, and read more posts, moron
Don't throw stones. You live in a glass house.
The protesters include monarchists and NatBols. As a Pole, which would you prefer? Hahahaha...
Lokos
Izverg
03-18-2007, 05:34 AM
Atleast Russians don't attack others countrys for Oil or personal affairs
and kill 100k of people , and have a media that makes the war look like some video game.
Dont waste your time...:|
Atleast Russians don't attack others countrys for Oil or personal affairs
and kill 100k of people , and have a media that makes the war look like some video game.
Slush Ivan posmotri ti smkem imejesh delo, etot patsan dazhe na karte Kanadu nie najdot, a ti jimu takiji slozniji veshi govorish. On tipicni amerikos, takix zdes polnim polno, ni obrashaj vnimanie.
koozya
03-18-2007, 02:01 PM
i wonder how much did they got paid for that.
perdurabo
03-18-2007, 02:15 PM
Mate, that was new to me too, but seems so.. It will be interesting to watch him in the politics with his ability to think few steps ahead.
truth about high chess is all you need is good memory, all moves you can do, all the situations are limited you don't invent them just memorize and use.
intelligenzija
03-18-2007, 02:46 PM
truth about high chess is all you need is good memory, all moves you can do, all the situations are limited you don't invent them just memorize and use.
Did you read The Royal Game?
perdurabo
03-18-2007, 02:50 PM
Did you read The Royal Game?
no, i was part of my university chess team, prabably the worst player but still we had profesional trainers, and i'm basing my statement on my own expirience p-)
Flamming_Python
03-18-2007, 08:01 PM
I propose we elect the Deep Blue supercomputer as the president of Russia.
Seriously, it would be an excellent idea :D
Checkmate... Kasparov ;)
Switek
03-18-2007, 08:03 PM
I propose we elect the Deep Blue supercomputer as the president of Russia.
Seriously, it would be an excellent idea :D
You're wrong unless Deep Blue was invented and developed in Russia ;)
Flamming_Python
03-18-2007, 08:10 PM
You're wrong unless Deep Blue was invented and developed in Russia ;)
We'll kidnap and re-program it. It will be drinking vodka and playing the balalaika before the end of the year; I guarantee it.
Switek
03-18-2007, 08:13 PM
We'll kidnap and re-program it. It will be drinking vodka and playing the balalaika before the end of the year; I guarantee it.
Still the legacy could be questioned... It must be 100% Russian originated
Mamont
03-18-2007, 09:28 PM
We'll kidnap and re-program it. It will be drinking vodka and playing the balalaika before the end of the year; I guarantee it.
You forgot the instructions to take over the world.. And the name must be CABAL or something like that..
mezkali
03-18-2007, 10:11 PM
Hey look guys. The old Russian government traditions where anyone who speaks out against the government risks a one way ticket to Siberia are still alive. Putin is trying to revive the old Russian empire and become another Stalin. Perhaps some of the people who attended this march are a little odd or extremist, but in a society where those who speak out against Putin risk comming up with a strange terminal illness or a sudden fatal 'accident', anyone who challenges this Stalin wannabe deserves a measure of respect!
P.S. Thank God I'm living here in America where I can say whatever I please about Putin without fear.
Thats what that intelligence agent from Maryland thought and got shot in the nutz.
Hey look guys. The old Russian government traditions where anyone who speaks out against the government risks a one way ticket to Siberia are still alive. Putin is trying to revive the old Russian empire and become another Stalin. Perhaps some of the people who attended this march are a little odd or extremist, but in a society where those who speak out against Putin risk comming up with a strange terminal illness or a sudden fatal 'accident', anyone who challenges this Stalin wannabe deserves a measure of respect!
P.S. Thank God I'm living here in America where I can say whatever I please about Putin without fear.
n*gga, pleeeaseeee... :cantbeli:
Wiseman
03-18-2007, 10:39 PM
Actually, if you go on Dateline, you can get shot the next day. So unless you have a wife that is a nurse and can come out of the house to help you not bleed to death, don't try it. :)
perdurabo
03-19-2007, 04:22 AM
We'll kidnap and re-program it. It will be drinking vodka and playing the balalaika before the end of the year; I guarantee it.
woot rofl Russians can outdrink anything :hug:
Doublethinker
03-19-2007, 07:21 AM
Hey look guys. The old Russian government traditions where anyone who speaks out against the government risks a one way ticket to Siberia are still alive. Putin is trying to revive the old Russian empire and become another Stalin.
Why would he want to do that? That would put his foreign bank account in danger.
Putin is just another corrupt politican playing the "Russia strong" card to please the population but in fact really takes interest in well-being of his clan and the clique he rules with. Just another mafia, like in other third world countries, no need to demonize him.
Flamming_Python
03-19-2007, 09:53 AM
Why would he want to do that? That would put his foreign bank account in danger.
Putin is just another corrupt politican playing the "Russia strong" card to please the population but in fact really takes interest in well-being of his clan and the clique he rules with. Just another mafia, like in other third world countries, no need to demonize him.
No doubt Putin is a politician, and like any politician, he does his share of questionnable bank dealings and secret handshakes. But when compared to the rest of the bloodsuckers and suck-ups out there, i'm glad he is control.
Yeltsin signed everything the west put in front of him hoping that would make him popular... it didn't really work and led to some very stupid things being signed.
They are far better off under Putin.
Funny how he has to do everything the west demands or he is Stalin...
the Wests current foriegn policy of regime change looks more like stalin than anything Putin has done in office.
Sergei
03-27-2007, 03:45 PM
Yeltsin signed everything the west put in front of him hoping that would make him popular... it didn't really work and led to some very stupid things being signed.
They are far better off under Putin.
Funny how he has to do everything the west demands or he is Stalin...
the Wests current foriegn policy of regime change looks more like stalin than anything Putin has done in office.
You seem to be the only one here who actually see through this. This US "regime change" philosophy by US reminds of the "world revolution" concept by Trotsky.
Mamont
03-27-2007, 04:23 PM
You seem to be the only one here who actually see through this. This US "regime change" philosophy by US reminds of the "world revolution" concept by Trotsky.
Speaking about world revolution:
http://www.theorator.com/bills110/text/hr982.html
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