sb has interest in MACVSOG, and I got these...

[iflu]

http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/389_1083145619_tatoo.jpg
http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/389_1083145067_1.jpg
http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/389_1083145100_2.jpg
http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/389_1083145156_3.jpg
http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/389_1083145204_4.jpg
http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/389_1083145271_5.jpg
http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/389_1083145309_6.jpg
http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/389_1083145343_7.jpg
http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/389_1083145375_8.jpg
http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/389_1083145410_9.jpg
http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/389_1083145469_10.jpg
http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/389_1083145508_11.jpg
http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/389_1083145541_12.jpg
http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/389_1083145575_13.jpg

[Retard]

A- for the Airsoft images. Most pretty realistic especially adding real photos at the end

[Claymore]

Yep.

[johnnysix]

Gotta give the re-enactors a plus for their enthusiasm and accuracy though. But I seriously doubt MACVSOG strictly recruited from eastern european countries for VN service.

[Gringo]

Those at the top are definatly reenacters

http://grunts.free.fr/reenactment.htm

[RAF]

The guy in the first pic has "Panama" soles on the bottom of his jungle boots which gives them away as being fake.

Does anyone know what year the Panama soles were introduced for the tropical/desert boots? was it the early eighties?

[Dalleer]

The guy in the first pic has "Panama" soles on the bottom of his jungle boots which gives them away as being fake.

Yes, those are obviously the so-called "repro jungle boots" the person is wearing.

The reproduction model is made (at least) by Altama , but I'm not sure on who were the original manufacturer's (In my opinion those boots are the least of their worries if they wish to be authentic and getting 60's-70's jungle boots is quite hard anyway).

Then again, some of the older model jungle boots had the Panama- soles installed into them.

http://www.thevietnam-database.co.uk/USarmy/Vibram2.jpg

These could be considered "original" due to their vibram soles, yes ?

http://www.thevietnam-database.co.uk/USarmy/Panama.jpg

And here's the Panama sole model. However I doubt that these reenactors have the original 70's "Panama-sole" jungle boots but instead the repro jungle boots. To tell you the truth, the repro and original Panama sole models are quite hard to distinguish anyway I'd think.

http://www.thesportsauthority.com/graphics/product_images/pG01-1025525reg.jpg

This specific reproduction model is manufactured by Altama, although there might be others who make repro's of them as well (Although I think Altama surely has the best quality).

http://www.thevietnam-database.co.uk/USarmy/Jungleboots.jpg

Apparently, these are the so-called "3rd Pattern Jungle Boots" that indeed had the Panama soles in them (and were used in Vietnam, but surely not as much and long as the vibram soled ones).


As for the "Panama sole's" history on the jungle boots, it seems that the Panama-sole was introduced in the 70's but what comes to the desert boots, is that at least in the gulf the US forces were using a desert-boot that did not feature the Panama-sole. Of course, there might've been two versions of the boots going around at the time.

What I'd be interested of knowing, is the sorts of boots the US forces carried around during their operation in Somalia . Did those boots have Panama-soles or not ?

[RAF]

As far as I know, the US Army Rangers used the desert boot with the Panama sole (from pictures ive seen of Somalia 93), but im not sure what the D-boys used, Ive seen pics of them in a black type boot, no idea what make they were or why they used them tho.

[Dalleer]

As far as I know, the US Army Rangers used the desert boot with the Panama sole (from pictures ive seen of Somalia 93),

This is what I have understood as well. Boots with the Panama-sole were in use during the operation in Somalia but what was the exact year those models of the desert boot came into use, is a total mystery to me....

Now what I know is that there was at least one model of a desert boot without the Panama-soles used in "Desert storm" on the gulf, but were the Panama-soled ones used in 1991 as well is yet another mystery.


but im not sure what the D-boys used, Ive seen pics of them in a black type boot, no idea what make they were or why they used them tho.

Well, those are the "Delta" we are talking about here. In theory, they could've used the standard black US army boots of that era or perhaps they had something else from a non-military manufacturer in use.

With those guys, everything is a mystery....

[TacoDelRio]

Ah, my favorite group in history.

Anyone know which RT's those pic's are from (the real images)?

I've been airsofting for a long time, and I've never seen any AEG's or GBB's that look like what they're using. I don't believe you guys with the airsoft comments, maybe the reenactors, but not airsoft. Prove me wrong, cause' I'd like a realistic CAR15 AEG!

Anywho, that's all CCN? not bad. I hope I cna find a STABO rig sometime soon, just for the hell of it!

DB p-)

[Dalleer]

I've been airsofting for a long time, and I've never seen any AEG's or GBB's that look like what they're using. I don't believe you guys with the airsoft comments, maybe the reenactors, but not airsoft.

Yeah, these people are most definitely reenactors.

You can find most of those guns as airsoft version as well, but for an example that Kpist/45 SMG that one of the guys is holding reveals them to be reenactors.

[Cleric01]

LOL..The first pic is a dead giveaway that's it's fake....M.R.E on the cot. LOL..that's funny..For future reference use "C" rations.

[JMooch]

"LOL..The first pic is a dead giveaway that's it's fake....M.R.E on the cot. LOL..that's funny..For future reference use "C" rations."


Pay attention to details, that's a LRRP Ration and it's entirely accurate for the period reenacted. LRRP Rations were developed as early as 1967 and issued from 1968 on to LRRP/Ranger/SOG units till the end of the war. They were meant to be a light-weight replacement for C-Rations. An unforunate side effect of them was they needed a large amount of water to use. The NVA monitored water sources in AO's so it became difficult to keep supplies of water while in the field while using LRRP Rats. Most units learned to balance their mission meals between the two. Stocks of them were still being used as late as 1980.

S/F
Mooch