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caleb
04-28-2004, 12:47 PM
The Fennek Armed Reconnaissance Vehicle, produced by Krauss-Maffei Wegmann (KMW) of Kassel, Germany and SP Aerospace and Vehicle Systems BV of The Netherlands (the ARGE Fennek consortium), has been developed for the Dutch and German Armies. The prototype vehicle completed field trials in April 2000.

http://www.panzer-modell.de/referenz/in_detail/fennek/01g.jpg

http://www.panzer-modell.de/referenz/in_detail/fennek/18g.jpg

http://www.panzer-modell.de/referenz/in_detail/fennek/35g.jpg

http://www.panzer-modell.de/referenz/in_detail/fennek/Bild053g.jpg

http://www.panzer-modell.de/referenz/in_detail/fennek/Bild080g.jpg

more pictures @ http://www.panzer-modell.de/referenz/in_detail/fennek/fennek.htm

enjoy :D

Frens
04-28-2004, 12:48 PM
cool! :)

Pille1234
04-28-2004, 01:02 PM
fennek mud race video
http://www.deutschesheer.de/C1256B6C002D670C/CurrentBaseLink/N25JBG57940SBERDE (9,5MB)

Ian H
04-28-2004, 01:42 PM
Is there a shield that covers the windscreen, or is the glass as bulletproof as the rest of the body?

Dutchman2
04-28-2004, 01:47 PM
I saw this vehicle when i was on excersise in Germany (Bergen-Hohne) in 1998. Its hard to hear that thing driving, so quite. The glass is bulletproof. Its a nice car, and i hope the issue them fast here in the Netherlands!

Greets,

roger

Pille1234
04-28-2004, 01:50 PM
I've read somewhere that NL uses this vehicle in different roles, not only for reconnaissance. Is that true? What other variants are used?

caleb
04-28-2004, 03:05 PM
I suggest you read this:

http://www.army-technology.com/projects/fennek/

some very detailed information about the Fennek

besides: I think it's one of the coolest-looking army-vehicles ever built....

Parzival
04-28-2004, 03:32 PM
That was the coolest Armoured car I´ve ever seen.

deutschersoldat
04-28-2004, 04:00 PM
yeah, its real nice construction

caleb
04-28-2004, 04:01 PM
http://www.deutschesheer.de/C1256B6C002D670C/CurrentBaseLink/N25CHFZ9766SWINDE

^ the 40mm automatic grenade launcher of the Fennek in action, quite impressive ;)

AVZ
04-28-2004, 04:17 PM
Great detailed pics

Thx woot woot woot woot woot woot woot woot woot

Steve Railsback
04-28-2004, 08:57 PM
I saw this one in Norway in 97/98, when I was stationed at Camp Rena.
I think the Germans were still testing this little cut creature back then.
It just looks awesome woot

SiFiOn
04-29-2004, 02:25 PM
-edit- Don't know what went wrong here...

Dutchman2
04-29-2004, 02:25 PM
It looks that that 40mm grenade launcher is pretty accurate, and has a high rate of shots p/minute. Is it the 40mm, ore a cal.50 MG? I thought that that 40mm grenade laucher had a slow rate of fire.

SiFiOn
04-29-2004, 02:26 PM
Take a look here for some pics of the NL version:

http://www.dutchdefencepress.com/photo_pages/roll-out_fennek.htm

Pille1234
04-29-2004, 02:34 PM
It looks that that 40mm grenade launcher is pretty accurate, and has a high rate of shots p/minute. Is it the 40mm, ore a cal.50 MG? I thought that that 40mm grenade laucher had a slow rate of fire.
It's called 40mm gmg - grenade machine gun because of it's high rate of fire.

caleb
04-29-2004, 02:37 PM
It looks that that 40mm grenade launcher is pretty accurate, and has a high rate of shots p/minute. Is it the 40mm, ore a cal.50 MG? I thought that that 40mm grenade laucher had a slow rate of fire.

the 40mm grenade launcher is from HK, not the Mark 19 the US Army is using.
I think the HK 40mm has a higher rate of fire than the american one, but I couldn't find any statistics on the web.

Maybe someone could help?

seventy6er
04-29-2004, 02:53 PM
HK GMG
(http://www.hkpro.com/gmg.htm)

HK GMW (http://www.hkpro.com/gmw.htm)

Dutchman2
04-29-2004, 04:28 PM
It looks that that 40mm grenade launcher is pretty accurate, and has a high rate of shots p/minute. Is it the 40mm, ore a cal.50 MG? I thought that that 40mm grenade laucher had a slow rate of fire.

the 40mm grenade launcher is from HK, not the Mark 19 the US Army is using.
I think the HK 40mm has a higher rate of fire than the american one, but I couldn't find any statistics on the web.

Maybe someone could help?

I read that it has a rate of 330/ 350 round p/ minute. What I saw was much higher. At least 550 or 600 r p/m. Maybe a other weopon system was shown? I found the explotions also a little weak compaired to the Us 40 mm grenades. Maybe I'm wrong, but I think it was something elso on the video.

Pille1234
04-29-2004, 06:45 PM
I read that it has a rate of 330/ 350 round p/ minute. What I saw was much higher. At least 550 or 600 r p/m. Maybe a other weopon system was shown? I found the explotions also a little weak compaired to the Us 40 mm grenades. Maybe I'm wrong, but I think it was something elso on the video.
I guess you mean this video http://www.deutschesheer.de/C1256B6C002D670C/CurrentBaseLink/N25CHFZ9766SWINDE ?
Don't know about you, but I can't realize if there're 350 or 550 rpm

Dutchman2
04-30-2004, 03:34 AM
I counted the tracers during the last 3,5 second burst. It where atleast 20 tracers. Between each two tracers (it looks its a mixed belt 2X tracere-3X???) are proberly 3 other non-tracer rounds. That means 50 rounds in 3,5 seconds. Thats far mor than 550-600 rpm. More in 800- 900 rpm. So I think it's some different weaponsystem that is shown here.

Greets,

Roger

SiFiOn
04-30-2004, 05:10 AM
Some more pics:

http://members.lycos.nl/erwincoops/fennek/Fennek-07.jpg

http://members.lycos.nl/erwincoops/fennek/Fennek-05.jpg

http://members.lycos.nl/erwincoops/fennek/Fennek-04.jpg

ANGRY KIWI
04-30-2004, 05:58 AM
looks like this

http://www.bharat-rakshak.com/LAND-FORCES/Army/Ferret.html

british armoured car ww2

i want mine in red with a black racing stripe, lowered with crome mags and neon

SiFiOn
04-30-2004, 06:29 AM
looks like this

http://www.bharat-rakshak.com/LAND-FORCES/Army/Ferret.html

british armoured car ww2

i want mine in red with a black racing stripe, lowered with crome mags and neon

Indeed, looks pretty much the same, only about 60 years older...

Ian H
04-30-2004, 07:39 AM
I counted the tracers during the last 3,5 second burst. It where atleast 20 tracers. Between each two tracers (it looks its a mixed belt 2X tracere-3X???) are proberly 3 other non-tracer rounds. That means 50 rounds in 3,5 seconds. Thats far mor than 550-600 rpm. More in 800- 900 rpm. So I think it's some different weaponsystem that is shown here.

Greets,

Roger


I don't know, but it is possible that AGL's have tracers in every round. If so, this would work out to a ROF of ~300-350RPM. Sounds about right.


Oh and the Ferret, what a legend! Went out about 10 years ago but was never properly replaced in the British Army until we bought the FCLV a few months back.

caleb
04-30-2004, 09:08 AM
I read that it has a rate of 330/ 350 round p/ minute. What I saw was much higher. At least 550 or 600 r p/m. Maybe a other weopon system was shown? I found the explotions also a little weak compaired to the Us 40 mm grenades. Maybe I'm wrong, but I think it was something elso on the video.

The video is from the official site of the german army (Heer) and the caption says "the 40mm Grenade-Launcher of the Fennek in action"....

I Guess they have to know it....

HELEX
04-30-2004, 09:18 AM
I read that it has a rate of 330/ 350 round p/ minute. What I saw was much higher. At least 550 or 600 r p/m. Maybe a other weopon system was shown? I found the explotions also a little weak compaired to the Us 40 mm grenades. Maybe I'm wrong, but I think it was something elso on the video.

The video is from the official site of the german army (Heer) and the caption says "the 40mm Grenade-Launcher of the Fennek in action"....

I Guess they have to know it....

The explosions were only Flashbangs, no HE. At least they look so.....

SiFiOn
04-30-2004, 09:23 AM
Here a short video of the HK 40mm GMG:

http://www.hkpro.com/video/Grenade%20Machine%20Gun.mov

No tracer rounds were used in this video, but you can get an idea of the rate of fire of this grenade-launcher.