What gun would you pick??

[Pooterman]

If you were going to war tomorrow, but you didnt know where or why what gun would you take??

I want to say a g36C with an eotech sight on it.

[HumanShield]

M249 minimi paratrooper version

http://www.seal.unas.cz/webfoto/photo/foto_technika/palne_zbane/minimi/m249_11.jpg

[Fintin]

doesnt matter as long as a daisy is in the barrel.....

[Pooterman]

or an M14 WITH eotech, those are so hot right now.


damn how do you post pictures???

[American Patriot]

I'd need a weapon that is decently accurate and reliable. My enemy's weapon should use the same round as my weapon.

Oh yeah, I also need a GL with QD mount, AN/PEQ-2, EOTech with extra batteries, nice tactical sling, forward grip, AN/PVS-7B or better, .. umm yeah rofl

[USMarine3521]

a full sopmod m16a4 :D or m14 :D :P

[Pooterman]

yeah but seriously, how do you post pictures

[stuntman]

I would take this, LR-300ML can be modified to fire any caliber.
http://www.zmweapons.com/images/Lrlazer.jpg
Caliber - .223 (5.56 Nato)
Available in semi automatic or select fire
11.5" barrel length, with Phantom flash suppressor
Overall length: folded - 21.5", unfolded - 31.0"
Weight 7.0 lbs.
Rate of fire - 950 rounds per minute on select fire
Effective range of 300 meters plus
Field strips with no tools required
Iron sights are fully adjustable
Flat top receiver - Weaver base
Rifling 1x9 twist chrome lined barrel
Multi-sling mount points


and a partridge in a pear tree!

[Gringo]

I go make the potato gun using pipe, hair spray and potaters


but seriously, erm........... anything that can fire............ the Winchester!!!! :D
People who've seen Shawn of the Dead will know what I'm on about.

[Ichhabe]

http://www.nps.gov/hafe/jpeg/cannon-fire.jpg

This, cause I can use so much different ammo with that. And I can bring my friends.(must bring'em.)

[HELEX]

A G11 with thermal imager on it...... p-)

[Upfrontreporting]

Anything reliable that goes bang-bang.

[American Patriot]

Anything reliable that goes bang-bang.

Like HELEX's girlfriend? :rimshot:

[koster]

Shouldn't this be somewhere in the off topic forum ?

[FinnishMF]

a minigun :lol:

[Hellman109]

If you were going to war tomorrow, but you didnt know where or why what gun would you take??

I want to say a g36C with an eotech sight on it.

The C version has a shorter barrel and isnt as accurate as a K or standard version. You can get special ammo designed for short barrels, but that isnt exactly what you want to do in war. Also, make sure youve still got the (average) iron sights on there, dont want a clod of mud ruining your whole day.

I would take a gun of the calibre that your enemy is using, thus meaning in gurilla warfare you can use there ammo, and as you are smaller, it is to your advantage (I presume you mean your country is invaded? if not then that doesnt apply, I would then use a different calibre so they couldnt use our ammo)

It all depends what your up against what your going to take, urban warfare a G36C/K would be fine, but if your fighting over farmland you would want something with a bit better range and accuracy.

All saying that, my "gun" would be a Leopard 2E with full armor (presming youve got stable ground) and a full crew. I would love to see a G36c / M16Ax, G11, etc. against that sucker) rofl rofl rofl

[Khabbi]

Well a sopmod m4 , ofcourse \'o) , best gun in the world

[Gringo]

If you were going to war tomorrow, but you didnt know where or why what gun would you take??

I want to say a g36C with an eotech sight on it.

The C version has a shorter barrel and isnt as accurate as a K or standard version. You can get special ammo designed for short barrels, but that isnt exactly what you want to do in war. Also, make sure youve still got the (average) iron sights on there, dont want a clod of mud ruining your whole day.

I would take a gun of the calibre that your enemy is using, thus meaning in gurilla warfare you can use there ammo, and as you are smaller, it is to your advantage (I presume you mean your country is invaded? if not then that doesnt apply, I would then use a different calibre so they couldnt use our ammo)

It all depends what your up against what your going to take, urban warfare a G36C/K would be fine, but if your fighting over farmland you would want something with a bit better range and accuracy.

All saying that, my "gun" would be a Leopard 2E with full armor (presming youve got stable ground) and a full crew. I would love to see a G36c / M16Ax, G11, etc. against that sucker) rofl rofl rofl

just wondering, do u know the effective and maximum range of the G36C?

[Gringo]

Well a sopmod m4 , ofcourse \'o) , best gun in the world

a crap assumption.

[Hellman109]

just wondering, do u know the effective and maximum range of the G36C?

Ill have a look, seen it in text not in meters/feet.

I can say thought that the G36 has a 480mm barrel length, G36K (paratrooper versoin it seems to be) has a 320mm barrel, and the G36C is 228mm.

OK... One source here: http://www.the-isg.co.uk/modules.php?name=Content&pa=showpage&pid=2 Says that the G36 and 36K have an effective range of 350 (doesnt say but all other mesuuremens are Metric so I presume meters, 350ft is nothing)...

Cant find the G36C specifically though...

[Fox2]

Well a sopmod m4 , ofcourse \'o) , best gun in the world

a crap assumption.

Don't be an ass, Gringo. :P

It's not like he insulted your beloved SA80 or SLR. ;)

[DeltaWhisky58]

G-36K SOPMOD, surefire, red-dot sight of some sort, bi-pod and a couple of C-mags plus plenty standard 30rd mags.

Sig-Sauer 226 as backup - 20rd. clip in gun, plus 2-3 spares.

[-Max2-]

http://www.mobileipv6.net/rt/pics/Gununpainted.jpg

My Super Soaker.

[MolliG]

Diemaco C7A2 (Without the Elcan though, maybe an Aimpoint or just normal iron-sights.)

http://www.diemaco.com/images/c7a2.gif

:)

[wulfstan]

I go make the potato gun using pipe, hair spray and potaters


but seriously, erm........... anything that can fire............ the Winchester!!!! :D
People who've seen Shawn of the Dead will know what I'm on about.

Yeah, the winchester kicks ass...

"Call them shells..." That made me larf!

[Gringo]

Well a sopmod m4 , ofcourse \'o) , best gun in the world

a crap assumption.

Don't be an ass, Gringo. :P

It's not like he insulted your beloved SA80 or SLR. ;)

it's a crap assumption as he says it is "best gun in the world"
And calling me an ass was uncalled for

[Gringo]

just wondering, do u know the effective and maximum range of the G36C?

Ill have a look, seen it in text not in meters/feet.

I can say thought that the G36 has a 480mm barrel length, G36K (paratrooper versoin it seems to be) has a 320mm barrel, and the G36C is 228mm.

OK... One source here: http://www.the-isg.co.uk/modules.php?name=Content&pa=showpage&pid=2 Says that the G36 and 36K have an effective range of 350 (doesnt say but all other mesuuremens are Metric so I presume meters, 350ft is nothing)...

Cant find the G36C specifically though...

And what is the effective range of the M4?

I stress the word effective as there is a difference between maximum range and effective range.

[Ian H]

I go make the potato gun using pipe, hair spray and potaters


but seriously, erm........... anything that can fire............ the Winchester!!!! :D
People who've seen Shawn of the Dead will know what I'm on about.

Yeah, the winchester kicks ass...

"Call them shells..." That made me larf!


Yay!!! Winchesters rule!

Personally a G-36K kitted out like wot DW58 said, or a G-11 for the coolness factor.

[MEGR]

This all depends. If I was going to be in the jungle, or the mountains for months leading a guerilla group (like US SF), I would pack an AK-47. This I would take in knowing that being secluded, I wouldn't have much access to cleaning materials to clean weapons like the M4. Plus, since the AK is so widely distributed, I really wouldn't have much trouble finding ammo and stuff.




Now, if I was perhaps like a Navy SEAL, or Delta or just regular ol infantry. I would assume that extra parts, and cleaning materials would be readily available to me, whenever i needed them. Therefore, I would take the M4 for its accuracy, and ability to fit many types of optics, grenade launchers, shotguns, and laser designator devices.
http://quarterbore.com/images/sopmodm4.jpg
http://www.icefire-enterprises.com/AK47.JPG

[Jack Mehoff]

Throwing stars

http://www.gungfu.com/pics_general/pics_weapons/stars_professional_throwing_stars.jpg

[mack pl]

AKMS(automat kałasznikowa modernizowany składany) 7,62mm :|

[Hellman109]

And what is the effective range of the M4?

I stress the word effective as there is a difference between maximum range and effective range.

Effective for the M4 is 360m according to http://world.guns.ru/assault/as17-e.htm

So the effective range is said to be about the same for a M4 to a G36/k, but the C varient would have a reduced effective range due to the shorter barrel (is a a CQB varient, no need in it's requirements for range)

[Geezah]

Well poop I can't load up the pics! :bash:

[Macs.]

G36k: Holosight, extra Iron Sights and maybe a vertical grip.

http://images-eu.amazon.com/images/P/3613023849.03.LZZZZZZZ.jpg

[Seoulstriker]

yeah but seriously, how do you post pictures



http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=12423

[Gringo]

And what is the effective range of the M4?

I stress the word effective as there is a difference between maximum range and effective range.

Effective for the M4 is 360m according to http://world.guns.ru/assault/as17-e.htm

So the effective range is said to be about the same for a M4 to a G36/k, but the C varient would have a reduced effective range due to the shorter barrel (is a a CQB varient, no need in it's requirements for range)

The G36C would have about the same range as the HK53, I guess

[Geezah]

Here's goes,
http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/461_1083248079_imga0122(medium).jpg
http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/461_1083248047_imga0121(medium).jpg
This is what I'm taking.

[Gringo]

Nice shoes :)

[Geezah]

Nice shoes :)

They said the same thing on the Sig forum, penny loathers don't you know! :D

Here's another pic, 4 of the 6,

http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/461_1083248885_imga0131(medium).jpg

[spoonman]

the G36 is a hunk of plastic crap. give me some steel and i'll be fine. i'd take my AMD65 with the Kobra and i'd be set.
http://img5.photobucket.com/albums/v14/redmodels/DSCF002945.jpg
it'll do 31 rounds into 5 inches at 100 yards and functions flawlessly.

[-Max2-]

the G36 is a hunk of plastic crap

:roll:

This hunk of plastic crap is one of the best assault rifle today. And Heckler & Koch has not the reputation to make crappy guns...

[Gringo]

here goes the crap assumptions again.

"m4 is the best gun in the world"
and
"G36 is a hunk of plastic crap"

with no evidence to back it up whatsoever

[FDF_Hemppis]

What an easy question :D

If I had the choice, it would be a pimped-up RK95:
http://img49.photobucket.com/albums/v151/Hemppis/K05/TST2005_4.jpg

In a real situation, I'll propably end up with a good'ol RK62:
http://en.wikipedia.org/upload/4/4a/Rk76.jpg

But what the hell, when I pull the trigger, both work and hit where I aim. And that's good enoug for me...

[spoonman]

here goes the crap assumptions again.

"G36 is a hunk of plastic crap"

with no evidence to back it up whatsoever

it's not an assumption because the only evidence i need is what i've held in my hand and shot and i've handled and shot the G36 and found it to be a hunk of plastic crap. any gun that is sent from the factory shooting 10 moa is not "the best assault rifle today."

[king_nothing100]

SLR + L2A2 sight and not forgetting the dreaded BAYONET!

[Gringo]

here goes the crap assumptions again.

"G36 is a hunk of plastic crap"

with no evidence to back it up whatsoever

it's not an assumption because the only evidence i need is what i've held in my hand and shot and i've handled and shot the G36 and found it to be a hunk of plastic crap. any gun that is sent from the factory shooting 10 moa is not "the best assault rifle today."

you didn't state that before.

[HELEX]

here goes the crap assumptions again.

"G36 is a hunk of plastic crap"

with no evidence to back it up whatsoever

it's not an assumption because the only evidence i need is what i've held in my hand and shot and i've handled and shot the G36 and found it to be a hunk of plastic crap. any gun that is sent from the factory shooting 10 moa is not "the best assault rifle today."

So you alway blame the Rifle for that you cant Shoot? I never had such problems.... :lol:

Not even a shotgun is that bad... rofl

[mustamato]

http://www.soldf.com/images/s_ak5_vapenlampa.jpg
... because I´m trained to use it, and I know that it´s a good weapon.

[bloddyaxe]

Tomorrerrr....
If I were lucky I'd manage to get hold of something like that
http://www.surplusfirearms.com/Mosin_Nagant.JPG
a three line Mosin Nagant...

http://www.zastava-arms.co.yu/images/vojni/7_62x51_nato/4.jpg
Lots of 7.62mm nato ammo lying around here, so M77 would be nicer still..

http://users.aber.ac.uk/cpw/axe.jpg
very important to have something like that as well, to behead prisoners....

[b00n]

German Stuff:
MG3 + Mk23

US Stuff:
M240b + Kimber MEU Pistol

a bitch to carry..... :|

[Saranof]

http://www.soldf.com/images/s_ak5_vapenlampa.jpg
... because I´m trained to use it, and I know that it´s a good weapon.


I would have to agree

[Aussie E]

M14 (18" scout barrel) with a Trijicon TA11E scope with quick detach mount. With a ****load and I mean ****load of ammo.

[b00n]

Aussie your talking bout that thing?

http://www.springfield-armory.com/images/rifles/SOCOM16.jpg

if so, nice choice.

[spoonman]

here goes the crap assumptions again.

"G36 is a hunk of plastic crap"

with no evidence to back it up whatsoever

it's not an assumption because the only evidence i need is what i've held in my hand and shot and i've handled and shot the G36 and found it to be a hunk of plastic crap. any gun that is sent from the factory shooting 10 moa is not "the best assault rifle today."

So you alway blame the Rifle for that you cant Shoot? I never had such problems.... :lol:

Not even a shotgun is that bad... rofl

in your quest to become even less intelligent you missed one glaring point. the G36 has a 10 moa acceptability window from the factory as opposed to the M16 at 4 moa.

where did i even state how i shot? i re-read my post and i couldn't find it, maybe you could be so kind as to direct me to that section. in reality i shot it well, but that is not the only factor to consider in choosing a combat arm.

p.s. and yes, a shotgun, barring slug use, at 100 yards would be worse than 10 moa.

[Maverick77]

Id Use a .50 Cal MG and fire from the hip while running.


then id stop and snipe enemies with it.

[Pooterman]

My bad fellas,

I said earlier the g36C but I was looking at some pics and realized I meant the g36K.

[img
http://www.hkpro.com/image/g36ccomparison.jpg
[\img]

But I would still do eotech sight becuase Ive heard the stock sights on the g36 are sheet.

POOTERMAN

[zenmaster]

M16A4. I can hit target out to 500 meters and it doesn't have a plastic barrel nut to melt to the barrel during rapid firing. The ergonomics of the AR-15 family are the best, in mine and most of the worlds' opinions. The 5.56 round, while not my first choice, is not that bad provided the shooter can place shots effectively. An AK would be a good choice, except most western shooters are not well trained enough on it. An M14 would also be good, although its value in MOUT is worse than even the 20" barrel AR series.

[MaDuce]

-What type of war is this
-What terrain will it be foaught on
-Would I have squad support
-What missions would I be doing
-THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS THE ULTIMATE FINAL WEAPON EVERYTHING HAS IT"S USES.

[Aussie E]

Aussie your talking bout that thing?

http://www.springfield-armory.com/images/rifles/SOCOM16.jpg

if so, nice choice.

No, I just edited my post what I meant was this thing (in select fire M14): (18" not the above 16" model)
http://www.springfield-armory.com/images/rifles/AA9126Large.jpg
Mine's at the gunsmiths currently getting glass bedded and a custom scope mount for the TA11E.
18" is still short enough for indoors work, but its got a little more range for the great outdoors.
Solid Rifle=Good Buttstroke!

TA11E Model #: TA11E

Details: ACOG 3.5x35 Scope with Red Chevron BAC Reticle - The ranging reticle
is calibrated for 7.62mm (.308 cal) flat-top rifles to 800 meters.
Includes Flat Top Adapter (TA51)

Magnification: 3.5X
Eye Relief: 60mm (2.4in)
Exit Pupil: 10mm
Field of View: 5.5 degrees
Length: 203mm (8.0 in)
Weight: 397g (14 oz)
Field of View: 9.63m at 100m (28.9 ft at 100 yds)
Adjustment: 15 Seconds of Angle per click
(approx. 4 clicks per inch at 100 yds.)

Reticle: Chevron is designed to be zeroed using the tip at
100 meters. The width of the chevron at the base
is 5.53 MOA which is 19" at 300 meters. This
allows range estimation for silhouette targets.

Tritium Activity: 100 milliCuries in one source

[Fargin]

Dual Calicos

http://rds.yahoo.com/S=96062883/K=guns+Calico/v=2/l=IVS/*-http://www.mem.tcon.net/users/5010/5491/libiii.jpg

But I'd be aiming for section eight.

[seruriermarshal]

M-16A3

;)

[TacoDelRio]

I used an M16A4 in the Army. Dunno what you guys like so much about the damn thing. :|

if I was in a wonderland of unlimited ammunition and free barrels at every intersection, I'd pick a NORMAL M249 with an ELCAN on top.

Since I don't live in this wonderland, I'd take my M44 and shotgun, and use them to get a better, or more flexible, weapon from someone else. ;) You know, it's not like a gun dies when you kill it's operator! :-*$

So logically, probably an AK74M, side-folding stock, GP30, and a clown-horn attached to it, to embarras my enemies at close range. :D
No optical sights, no nothing to break, cause' I'm considering the fact that I'd be fighting somewhere that I wouldn't want to be.

Enough.

DB

[TacoDelRio]

Aussie,

An ACOG with 2.5 inch eye relief is going to SUCK on a scout mount. You'll get a ****ty sight picture, and parallax will rock your world. You'd need a normal, $4875983745 million dollar overpriced M14/M21 scope mount to get proper eye relief. I apologize if I missed something in there.

Zenmaster: you shoot M16A4's at 500m? What kind of load do you use?

I'm suprised nobody has said "Barrett M468". I'd take that, maybe. I still like the AK74M.

DB

[PsihoKeke]

http://users.aber.ac.uk/cpw/axe.jpg
very important to have something like that as well, to behead prisoners....

Beheading with that small thing? 3-4 strikes minimum (2-3 for expirienced butchers). Still good for cutting branches and opening unhelmeted skuls on hand to axe range.

My favorite is kalashnikov, I'm trained to use it, it's reliable and ammo is plentiful in most of world.

[to free the oppressed]

http://www.motionpicturearmourer.com/images/minigun_2.jpg
:D :D :D

[RSK]

http://www.roadsideattractions.ca/slingshot.jpg

[RSK]

http://www.roadsideattractions.ca/slingshot.jpg

[gilgoul]

If you were going to war tomorrow, but you didnt know where or why what gun would you take??

I want to say a g36C with an eotech sight on it.


AKM for sure, plenty of ammo and spare in the all world, low maintenance and concealable

[Ghostwolf]

ANY gun, you said?

Then I would get one of these....

http://www.militaryartshop.com/prints/cannon/atomiccannon.jpg

[Hellman109]

I still fail to see you beating my Leo2E :P

That last pic looks like someone took the Commadn And Conquer series a bit too seriously, and also used photoshop on the pic.

[Gringo]

A G36 of some sort (don't mind which version) with an Aimpoint mounted on the rail ironsights.

[big80a2]

just give me a workshop and I'll make my own gun..

so I'll take my floppy with CAD drawings :P

[big80a2]

well maybe I rent a pickuptruck and place this in the back:

http://www.armorama.com/modules/photopost/data/500/760904474.jpg

p-) p-)

edit: photo sorce

[Ghostwolf]

I still fail to see you beating my Leo2E :P
That last pic looks like someone took the Commadn And Conquer series a bit too seriously, and also used photoshop on the pic.

No no no, this ain't no C&C, this is the real stuff.
The pic was taken during Operation Upshot-Knothole Grable, during
the test the U.S. army used an experimental 280mm cannon to fire
a 15kt nuke shell at target area.

[BlackRain]

True.

Test: Grable
Time: 15:30 25 May 1953 (GMT)
08:30 25 May 1953 (local)
Location: Nevada Test Site (NTS), Area 5
Test Height and Type: 524 Foot Airburst
Yield: 15 kt

This is the first test of a nuclear artillery shell (Grable for "gun") - the 280 mm AFAP (artillery fired atomic projectile). The shot was an artillery delivered airburst. The shell travelled 11,000 yards before detonation which occurred 86 feet west, 137 feet south, and 24 feet above the designated burst point. The 280 mm shell was also a "gun" weapon in another sense, it used a "gun-type" fission weapon assembly method like the Little Boy bomb. This was in fact the first test of a gun-type bomb (and second detonation - Hiroshima not being a test). The predicted yield was 14 kt.

The Mk-9 280 mm (11.02 inch) shell was 54.4 inches long, weighed 803 lb, and used oralloy as the fissile material. Air burst detonation was arranged by a time fuze. The Mk-9 was fired by an enormous 85 ton artillery piece. The gun had a muzzle velocity of 2060 ft/sec, and a range of up to 20 miles.


More Pix.

http://nuclearweaponarchive.org/Usa/Tests/Ukgrable3.jpg


There is also the 155 mm M-45 AFAP . http://www.globalsecurity.org/wmd/systems/w48.htm

[RomanS]

Top3
for me

http://kalashnikov.guns.ru/images/158.jpg

http://club.guns.ru/images/bizon-1.jpg

http://www.rusmilitary.com/images/ak-105%20(1).jpg

And if I have any space left

http://ois.org.ua/club/guns/aaa-2003/as_val_2-365-200.jpg
http://handgun.kapyar.ru/ph/423_01.jpg
http://handgun.kapyar.ru/ph/423_03.jpg

[HELEX]

@PermskiiOMON

The last Pic.... Armor piercing rounds? More Info available?

[RomanS]

@PermskiiOMON

The last Pic.... Armor piercing rounds? More Info available?

You would be supriced how much info is availabale.

But not for you BIATCH

[Rnagerrick]

An M1911 an a box of hand grenades.

[HELEX]

:lol:

[Seoulstriker]

well maybe I rent a pickuptruck and place this in the back:

http://www.armorama.com/modules/photopost/data/500/760904474.jpg

p-) p-)

edit: photo sorce

heh. p-) now THAT is a gun. :D

[Aussie E]

Aussie,

An ACOG with 2.5 inch eye relief is going to SUCK on a scout mount. You'll get a ****ty sight picture, and parallax will rock your world. You'd need a normal, $4875983745 million dollar overpriced M14/M21 scope mount to get proper eye relief. I apologize if I missed something in there.


I don't have it on the scout mount, it's on an ARMS mount just like the US army has them, right over the reciever. For the parrallax error I had my gunsmith (another Aussie) mill the center of the piccatiny rail and drill two holes in the mount so that I could remove the scope from the Trijicon thrumbscrew mount and mount it directly to the ARMS mount with screws through the mag-well, this dropped the sightline about 1/2", only now it doesn't have quick-detach capabilies. The only problem is that the stock is binding the barrel so now it's being glass-bedded to the stock to free float the barrel. If I every get it back and work out how to post pickies I'll post a couple. Yah, all this **** is pricey, but what the hell I don't have any other bad habits to spend cash on. I also removed the scout mount as all does is act as a heat sink on the barrel.

[THE_Dorff]

well if you wanna weapon that can accommodate an enemies rounds...
taking on the principle that the AK47 is the most widely used weapon..

you get the SR47, and m16, much akin to the SPR that fires AK rounds and uses AK mags...

http://www.planetrainbowsix.com/armm/images/sr47-left.jpg

[Aussie E]

Aussie,

An ACOG with 2.5 inch eye relief is going to SUCK on a scout mount. You'll get a ****ty sight picture, and parallax will rock your world. You'd need a normal, $4875983745 million dollar overpriced M14/M21 scope mount to get proper eye relief. I apologize if I missed something in there.


I don't have it on the scout mount, it's on an ARMS mount just like the US army has them, right over the reciever. For the parrallax error I had my gunsmith (another Aussie) mill the center of the piccatiny rail and drill two holes in the mount so that I could remove the scope from the Trijicon thrumbscrew mount and mount it directly to the ARMS mount with screws through the mag-well, this dropped the sightline about 1/2", only now it doesn't have quick-detach capabilies. The only problem is that the stock is binding the barrel so now it's being glass-bedded to the stock to free float the barrel. If I every get it back and work out how to post pickies I'll post a couple. Yah, all this **** is pricey, but what the hell I don't have any other bad habits to spend cash on. I also removed the scout mount as all does is act as a heat sink on the barrel.
Digies be here:
http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=21098

[Sayeret]

http://www.consolevision.com/members/covers/sms2/rambo.jpg

Whatever the hell Rambo is holding.

[MVSpartan117]

M-14 SOPMOD with eotech and a ACOG in my pack

Backup: A Kimber .45

:D

[Pandy]

The largest gun ever built was the "Gustav Gun" built in Essen, Germany in 1941 by the firm of Friedrich Krupp A.G. Upholding a tradition of naming heavy cannon after family members, the Gustav Gun was named after the invalid head of the Krupp family - Gustav Krupp von Bohlen und Halbach. The strategic weapon of its day, the Gustav Gun was built at the direct order of Adolf Hitler for the express purpose of crushing Maginot Line forts protecting the French frontier. To accomplish this, Krupp designed a giant railway gun weighing 1344 tons with a bore diameter of 800 mm (31.5") and served by a 500 man crew commanded by a major-general.

Two types of projectiles were fired using a 3000lb. charge of smokeless powder: a 10,584 lb. high explosive (HE) shell and a 16,540 lb. concrete-piercing projectile. Craters from the HE shells measured 30-ft. wide and 30-ft. deep while the concrete piercing projectile proved capable of penetrating 264-ft. of reinforced concrete before exploding! Maximum range was 23 miles with HE shells and 29 miles with concrete piercing projectiles. Muzzle velocity was approximately 2700 f.p.s.

Three guns were ordered in 1939. Alfried Krupp personally hosted Hitler and Albert Speer (Minister of Armaments) at the Hugenwald Proving Ground during formal acceptance trials of the Gustav Gun in the spring of 1941. In keeping with company tradition, Krupp refrained from charging for the first gun - 7 million Deutsch Marks were charged for the second (named Dora after the chief engineer's wife).

France fell in 1940 without the assistance of the Gustav Gun, so new targets were sought. Plans to use Gustav against the British fortress of Gibraltar were scrapped after General Franco refused permission to fire the gun from Spanish soil. Thus, April 1942 found the Gustav Gun emplaced outside the heavily fortified port city of Sebastopol in the Soviet Union. Under fire from Gustav and other heavy artillery, Forts Stalin, Lenin and Maxim Gorki crumbled and fell. One round from Gustav destroyed a Russion ammunition dump 100 feet below Severnaya Bay; a near miss capsized a large ship in the harbor. Gustav fired 300 rounds during the siege wearing out the original barrel in the process. Dora was set up west of Stalingrad in mid-August but hurriedly withdrawn in September to avoid capture. Gustav next appeared outside Warsaw, Poland, where it fired 30 rounds into Warsaw Ghetto during the 1944 uprising.

Dora was blown up by German engineers in April 1945 near Oberlichtnau, Germany, to avoid capture by the Russian Army. The incomplete third gun was scrapped at the factory by the British Army when they captured Essen. Gustav was captured intact by the U.S. Army near Metzendorf, Germany, in June 1945. Shortly after, it was cut up for scrap thus ending the story of the Gustav Gun.

http://www.5ad.org/gun.jpg

Hell Yea...

http://www.2oceansvibe.com/images/eminem.jpg

What i'll most likely be doing... ;)

[ibstolidude]

http://www.tsl.state.tx.us/ld/projects/trc/2002/manual/images/bilingual/stick.jpg
what real men use.

[Pandy]

A peice of paper?

[BadKarma26]

AW Covert SR with a ATN Aries Z4-XR5 NVWS.

[GazB]

Whatever the hell Rambo is holding.

Hahahaha... he is holding an M-60 MG that seems to have an RPG-7 rocket in its barrel... if he pulls that trigger there won't be a Rambo 4... pull it John... pull it!!!

My personal choice of weapon would probably be an SVDK in the new 9.3 x 64mm round... though I'd need a close in weapon... perhaps a Bizon and an APS pistol for close protection too.

[Fulix]

http://www.consolevision.com/members/covers/sms2/rambo.jpg

Whatever the hell Rambo is holding.

rofl

[digrar]

Did they ever make a spigot grenade for the m60? Seems unlikely.

[digrar]

Double post. :cantbeli:

[Beowulf]

http://www.tsl.state.tx.us/ld/projects/trc/2002/manual/images/bilingual/stick.jpg
what real men use.

hell yeah, firearms are a "cructh" stoli is old school.


When I get the chance to do weapons training I'm gonna 100mph tape a freaking RPG to an M60 and reference the "rambo training guide" That shyte is hardcore!

reminds me of an entry stack of LBG's: number 2 or 3 guy had an RPG!

[Steve Andrews]

Do I have to pay for it?
http://img24.exs.cx/img24/4702/sig24.gif

[Herrmannek]

Anything with doesn't need good aim...
http://www.vehicle-wiring-products.co.uk/VWPweb2000/switch-1/photo/63230.jpg

[Christophe]

Long: M4 sopmod.

Short: My old reliable FN Browning Hi-Power .

[Freibier]

Long: G3KA4
Short: USP TAC

[Howie Kaluha]

hmmm.....that's a tough choice to make. It would be between the AK or the M4 Carbine most likely. Hopefully, if I was placed out in the field for a prolonged period of time, I'd have the AK---would never need to maintain it, it would never quit on me. But if I knew I was going to be doing some sort of fast raid, I'd like to have an M4--much more accurate, easy to mod, and wouldn't need to worry about keeping it too clean.

[AmericanDude04]

Ok Say If you were going to assassinate a know terrorist what weapons would you use. And an air strike is out due to the fact that there would be too much Collateral damage done to a school right across the street.

[Lt_Crooks]

Ok Say If you were going to assassinate a know terrorist what weapons would you use. And an air strike is out due to the fact that there would be too much Collateral damage done to a school right across the street.

http://img51.exs.cx/img51/6919/72004.jpg
side arm

http://img52.exs.cx/img52/6783/sks2_small.jpg
norinco sks

[DE_Six]

http://quarterbore.com/images/kac-sr47-01.jpg

World's largest and cheapest ammunition supply, good caliber, good technology.


"The SR-47 is a great gun because of the three technologies that it marries: the basic Stoner gun design; the AK-47 series cartridge and magazine; and the modular weapon concept."

-David Lutz, vice president of military marketing for Knight's Armament Company

http://www.specwargear.com/images/weapon-ICQB%20pistol-1.jpg

Old Slabsides. 'nuff said.

[Innoxx]

http://toys.wowshopper.com/pics-inventory/darth-maul-collectors-edition-lightsaber.jpg

My double ended lightsaber of course. Feck off with your primitive projectile firing weapons.

[Lt_Crooks]

http://toys.wowshopper.com/pics-inventory/darth-maul-collectors-edition-lightsaber.jpg

My double ended lightsaber of course. Feck off with your primitive projectile firing weapons.

that probally will exist in a few years, with the new laser tech and all that mess ;) (remeber i said it!)

[Operation Ivy]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/OpIvy/Tank106.jpg

120mm Cannon ill just use it as a bazooka :D

[Beowulf]

Ok Say If you were going to assassinate a know terrorist what weapons would you use. And an air strike is out due to the fact that there would be too much Collateral damage done to a school right across the street.



http://rds.yahoo.com/S=96062883/K=yarborough+knife/v=2/l=IVS/*-http://www.onestopknifeshop.com/images/chrisreeve/crk-yarborough.jpg

[mocking_loudly_died]

You pussy.

Use a toothpick.

p-)

[Colt45]

I say we just make it a load-out:


Long Rifle: 270 Winchester w/ fail safe rounds w/ collapsable bipod w/ 750 meter sound supressor & w/ re-attachable thermal/ nvd Swarovski scope

Rifle: SR-47 with ACOG Reflex w/ attachable non-magnefied SureShot - Custom Ranger Entry Shotgun or attachable LSS to my SR-47

Pistol: This type of pistol http://www.sviguns.com/catalog2000/page15.html
with .45 cal conversion and 21 round extended clip (high velocity/ low recoil custom) all black with no acrylia w/ HP and incendiary rounds

Melee: My Serrated BenchMade knife - 1 lb steel baseball bat

Misc: Flashbangs, flex-cuffs, currency in that country of equal value to $5000 american dollars

My real-life Wyoming horse named "Spot" with state-of-the-art pack-out kit

[Colt45]

I say we just make it a load-out:


Long Rifle: 270 Winchester w/ fail safe rounds w/ collapsable bipod w/ 750 meter sound supressor & w/ re-attachable thermal/ nvd Swarovski scope

Rifle: SR-47 with ACOG Reflex w/ attachable non-magnefied SureShot - Custom Ranger Entry Shotgun or attachable LSS to my SR-47

Pistol: This type of pistol http://www.sviguns.com/catalog2000/page15.html
with .45 cal conversion and 21 round extended clip (high velocity/ low recoil custom) all black with no acrylia w/ HP and incendiary rounds

Melee: My Serrated BenchMade knife - 1 lb steel baseball bat

Misc: Flashbangs, flex-cuffs, currency in that country of equal value to $5000 american dollars, and extensive cleaning kit for each individual weapon

My real-life Wyoming horse named "Spot" with state-of-the-art pack-out kit

[James]

http://img43.exs.cx/img43/6915/enfield.jpg

from Chicken Street :D

[memphiz]

http://www.zid.ru/images/products/military/kpvt_big.jpg

14.5 mm KPVT tank machine-gun is a powerful automatic weapon mounted on the armoured vehicles, war boats, movable and stationary mounts.

It is intended for fight against light-armoured targets, fire weapons and alive force located in light shelters at the distances of up to 2000 m, as well as air targets at the distances of up to 2000 m at the heights of up to 1500 m.

Cartridges with armour-piercing-incendiary bullet B-32, armor-piercing-tracer bullet BZT and incendiary bullet of instant action MDZ are used for firing at surface and air targets.

Feed of cartridges (right-hand or left-hand) is performed from the metallic belt.

[HavocIRL]

Bren, FN FAL or Steyr AUG because they're the only weapons I'm used to working with or have fired and a potato cos an Irishman with a potato is the most fearsome weapon on gods green earth.

[EvanL]

Bren, FN FAL or Steyr AUG because they're the only weapons I'm used to working with or have fired and a potato cos an Irishman with a potato is the most fearsome weapon on gods green earth.
Yeh but what happens when ya take the potato away from the irishman? ;)

[MEGR]

http://www.bradford.ac.uk/admin/alumni/red-pen-big.jpg

Red. For extra killing power. HOOYA!!!!!

[Fintin]

Bren, FN FAL or Steyr AUG because they're the only weapons I'm used to working with or have fired and a potato cos an Irishman with a potato is the most fearsome weapon on gods green earth.
Yeh but what happens when ya take the potato away from the irishman? ;)

the irish gang wars in new york...yeah...cause they didnt have potatoss

[Mongrel]

Who makes the RK62 and 95?
And what army uses them?

Anything like the AK 47's, and I'm in.
Those Russian weapons are brilliant IMHO.

If I had to have just one though it would have to be a good old Dragonov Sniper Rifle.

Cheers!
M.

[Hullebullen]

Who makes the RK62 and 95?
And what army uses them?

Anything like the AK 47's, and I'm in.
Those Russian weapons are brilliant IMHO.

If I had to have just one though it would have to be a good old Dragonov Sniper Rifle.

Cheers!
M.

Made by finnish company Valmet and used by the finns...

[Mongrel]

Man I wish the Canandian Forces would get Valmet rifles.
OK I want to move to Finland.:D

Here is a funny pic..no idea what it is but sure looks nasty, but I seriously doubt it could be fired like this...more then once. :P

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v401/Mongrelhordes/owned2.jpg

Any ideas what beasty this guy is holding?

Cheers!
M.

[Hullebullen]

I think it's a japanese 20mm Anti-tank machine-gun, the name escapes me...

[mack pl]

I think it's a japanese 20mm Anti-tank machine-gun, the name escapes me...
Model97 :roll:

[One_A]

http://www.hk94.com/hk/index.php?act=Attach&type=post&id=2006

The pic is photoshopped, but I don't see why one couldn't build a FAL just like it.

For a sidearm, I'd have to choose this:
http://www.hkpro.com/usptactical.jpg

[Pandy]

I'll stick with my Colt 45...

http://www.mibeercans.com/images/National/National_M134G_Colt_45_ML_P.JPG

[NeedsABetterName]

SR-47 with AG-36 and EOTECH HoloSight and an optional ACOG 4x.Suppressor.
Tools to add and remove attachments.

Sidearm:

CZ-TT is .40 S&W with TAC-LITE and night sights.

[Catch22]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v401/Mongrelhordes/owned2.jpg

Mongrel, yopu sholud move to Suomi then for another reason - its finnish AT rifle Lahti M39 - well known from Winter War.

http://www.ohioordnanceworks.com/lahti/l.htm

http://www.ohioordnanceworks.com/lahti/l-1_s.jpg
http://www.ohioordnanceworks.com/lahti/l-2_s.jpg
http://www.ohioordnanceworks.com/lahti/l-3_s.jpg
http://www.ohioordnanceworks.com/lahti/l-4_s.jpg

M39 on AA mount
http://guns.connect.fi/gow/l39it.jpg

[moughoun]

Bren, FN FAL or Steyr AUG because they're the only weapons I'm used to working with or have fired and a potato cos an Irishman with a potato is the most fearsome weapon on gods green earth.
Yeh but what happens when ya take the potato away from the irishman? ;)

So it was you who stole my magic potato, give it back!!, or you'll see what happens :bash:



I'm a mental case and that's ok p-)

[Ichhabe]

http://www.nps.gov/hafe/jpeg/cannon-fire.jpg

This, cause I can use so much different ammo with that. And I can bring my friends.(must bring'em.)


Dammit. You still on this, eh?!?! Well, I still chose this. Why? I like the wheels.

[EvanL]

http://www.nps.gov/hafe/jpeg/cannon-fire.jpg

This, cause I can use so much different ammo with that. And I can bring my friends.(must bring'em.)


Dammit. You still on this, eh?!?! Well, I still chose this. Why? I like the wheels.
Inferiority complex there Ichabe?
;)

[HavocIRL]

Bren, FN FAL or Steyr AUG because they're the only weapons I'm used to working with or have fired and a potato cos an Irishman with a potato is the most fearsome weapon on gods green earth.
Yeh but what happens when ya take the potato away from the irishman? ;)

Don't even joke about something as serious as that.

[EvanL]

Bren, FN FAL or Steyr AUG because they're the only weapons I'm used to working with or have fired and a potato cos an Irishman with a potato is the most fearsome weapon on gods green earth.
Yeh but what happens when ya take the potato away from the irishman? ;)

Don't even joke about something as serious as that.
Slainte

[Rrotz]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v352/SPR_Mk12/Smilies/bump.gif

[HavocIRL]

Bren, FN FAL or Steyr AUG because they're the only weapons I'm used to working with or have fired and a potato cos an Irishman with a potato is the most fearsome weapon on gods green earth.
Yeh but what happens when ya take the potato away from the irishman? ;)

Don't even joke about something as serious as that.
Slainte

Go raibh maith agat.

[Mongrel]

Thanx for the info Catch22!
Neat'o

Cheers!
M.

[martinexsquaddie]

SLR AND BAYONET :lol:

[Ichhabe]

http://www.nps.gov/hafe/jpeg/cannon-fire.jpg

This, cause I can use so much different ammo with that. And I can bring my friends.(must bring'em.)


Dammit. You still on this, eh?!?! Well, I still chose this. Why? I like the wheels.
Inferiority complex there Ichabe?
;)

Nope... I just love loud sounds and the ground trembling beneath my feet. The louder the better. :D

[Kampfbaer]

A G36K with all extras to impress the babes at HQ!!! p-)

[GAFES]

ERMA SR100 sniper rifle

http://www.sniper.ru/catalog/img/378.jpg


The ERMA SR100 is a very expensive tactical rifle that is used by only some elite units which can afford them (GSG-9 in Germany for example). This is a very high quality weapon that is designed to be one of the most accurate rifles in existance, and it is indeed extremely accurate, with groups coming in the sub .25 MOA. The rifle has some unique features, like a 60 degree rotating bolt, a unique mounting system for the action. The stock is laminated wood, which is more weather resistent then standard wood, though its not as good as synthetic.
The rifle has a good following, despite of the 9000 USD price. The production was stopped in 1999.


Caliber(s): 7.62mm NATO (.308Win), .300 Winchester magnum and .338 Lapua (8.6x70mm)
Operation: rotating bolt action
Barrel: 650 mm for 7.62mm NATO; 750 mm for .300 win mag and .338 lapua mm
Weight: 6.4 - 6.9 kg w/o scope, depending on the barrel installed
Length: 1260 or 1360 mm
Feed Mechanism: 10 (.308), 8 (.300 wm) or 5 (.338) rounds detachable box magazines


;)

[Abolith]

http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/477_1091572942_4478_p90and57.jpg

My choice for urban combat.

[ßå$tĮТHÏ¿ð]

Its a toss up....
G3
Galil
Ak103
Bizon


any one of those would do :D

[radon]

rk95 with somekind of optics...

[Vintendo]

It's not really about what gun to bring, but how much ammo you can carry.
For me, probably Ak-74M.
http://www.rusmilitary.com/images/ak74m_deact.jpg

And for close combat, I whip out this baby for some slice and dice action.
http://www.jidai.jp/images_p/yk006.jpg

[Milkman]

Primary Weapon: SVD with PSO-1 Optic

http://www.military.cz/russia/weapons/guns/dragunov/svd.jpg

Backup Weapon: AKS-74U

http://kalashnikov.guns.ru/images/120-1.jpgp

:)

[Cassiar]

This one...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v440/intestine3/5-20.jpg

and/or this one...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v440/intestine3/8-8.jpg

[Airborneranger4israel]

xm8 with a thermal imaging system and a 6.8 mm upper

[Pandy]

http://www.falloutsite.ru/nf/images/v23/pyl/m60.jpg

With...

http://www.billyzanemuseum.com/Documents/PlayBoy12-1992.jpeg

[ibstolidude]

http://img43.exs.cx/img43/6915/enfield.jpg

from Chicken Street :D

Bring 'em home (if you still can) lest you regret it later!

[ibstolidude]

http://www.tsl.state.tx.us/ld/projects/trc/2002/manual/images/bilingual/stick.jpg
what real men use.

hell yeah, firearms are a "cructh" stoli is old school.


When I get the chance to do weapons training I'm gonna 100mph tape a freaking RPG to an M60 and reference the "rambo training guide" That shyte is hardcore!

reminds me of an entry stack of LBG's: number 2 or 3 guy had an RPG!Kinda of like a certain redneck trying to in invent a way to take a 203 off the M4 so he could carry it w/a shot gun.

[oldsoak]

M76 Yugo in 7.62mm NATO, 6 mags , fitted with a good 4 X 40 scope plus a 9mm Colt Commander customised for southpaws with 5 mags.
Plus a NVG of some sort and 7x35 binos.
....and a plane ticket home if it gets too hairy.

...then again, you can have what a mate carries - the issue SA80A2
plus a silenced .22 auto he "aquired" in Bos. Used it to knock over a rabid dog.

[hihihi_ch]

Definitly this one :

http://home.wanadoo.nl/barebow/barebow/images/552_gr%20comando.jpg

:P :P :P

[pretorian669]

http://www.derringer.de/n-ishar7.jpg

:lol:

[Far]

http://www.modernhumorist.com/mh/0103/spoilers/images/eggs.jpg

(Spoiled)

[Mongrel]

Only 8 eggs in your 'dozen' Up here in Canada we get 12 in ours. :P

Cheers!
M.