Fn C1a1

[MapleLeafUp]

Hey does anyone know if these are buyable? my brother used to use one when he was in the Royal Dragoons in Canada, and i really dig these. So let me know folks

[LaoSexMachine]

I see the IMBEL ones go for around $550. Wooden furniture for them are reasonable.

[MapleLeafUp]

where at? let me knowwwwwwwwwwwwwww:)

[speckfire]

Imbels are not the same as the C1A1. Imbels are metric while C1A1's are imperial. They are a completely different rifle. In Canada C1A1's go for at least $1000 but you have to hold a 12.5 prohibited license.

[MapleLeafUp]

no way $1000 smackaroos, anyone have any for sale? haha serious

[LaoSexMachine]

I see them on a regular basis here in Houston. Go to gunbroker.com and gunsamerica.com. Since you live in Commiefornia I might want to check the legal issues first.


Imbels are not the same as the C1A1. Imbels are metric while C1A1's are imperial. They are a completely different rifle. In Canada C1A1's go for at least $1000 but you have to hold a 12.5 prohibited license.


I stand corrected. I thought all FALs are basically the same.

[MapleLeafUp]

i'm actually going to move out of hell by next year, portland oregon is my hopeful

[speckfire]

I stand corrected. I thought all FALs are basically the same.

No sweat bud. They look the same but the parts dont line up ;)

Here is my small collection.

From top to bottom.
Indian Ishapore 1A1, British BSA L1A1, Canadian C1A1

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v428/Speckfire/fals.jpg

Here is the Indian 1A1 with the proper stock

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v428/Speckfire/ishapore1.jpg

[ag05]

No sweat bud. They look the same but the parts dont line up ;)

Here is my small collection.

From top to bottom.
Indian Ishapore 1A1, British BSA L1A1, Canadian C1A1

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v428/Speckfire/fals.jpg

Here is the Indian 1A1 with the proper stock

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v428/Speckfire/ishapore1.jpg

I hate you.

[goat89]

Sweet answer mate. :)

[MapleLeafUp]

So.... you wanna sell me the Canadian one:)



No sweat bud. They look the same but the parts dont line up ;)

Here is my small collection.

From top to bottom.
Indian Ishapore 1A1, British BSA L1A1, Canadian C1A1

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v428/Speckfire/fals.jpg

Here is the Indian 1A1 with the proper stock

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v428/Speckfire/ishapore1.jpg

[scrybe]

i'm actually going to move out of hell by next year, portland oregon is my hopeful

We have really generous gun laws up here in OR so it will be legal up here. I'm about 95% sure it would be illegal in commiefornia though.

EDIT: Looks like DSA makes some California legal FALs, so with some modification you might be able to make one legal.

http://www.dsarms.com/

[balrog]

So do you know how to paper slip them?

[Molli]

Imbels are not the same as the C1A1. Imbels are metric while C1A1's are imperial. They are a completely different rifle. [...]

The C1A1 also had the ability unlike, for example, the L1A1, to reload from chargers. Note the opening on the picture (top) above.

[SuperTrooper]

We used to jam a tooth pick or a wooden match in the firing mech to make it full auto......I mean fast firing semi!

[speckfire]

So.... you wanna sell me the Canadian one:)

Nooooo..... Too hard to come by ;)

If I was in the US I'd buy the DSA 58P Congo
http://www.dsarms.com/prodinfo.asp?number=SA58PCONGO

Unfortunately we cannot get FALs variants in Canada anymore. the FN FAL/L1A1 became prohibited requiring a special license to own them. No new models can be imported :(


The C1A1 also had the ability unlike, for example, the L1A1, to reload from chargers. Note the opening on the picture (top) above.

Yes indeed, it uses 5 round stripper clips, but mag changes are faster;)
I use it to access the chamber in case of jams.

[Molli]

We used to jam a tooth pick or a wooden match in the firing mech to make it full auto......I mean fast firing semi!

My father has tales of such, with 30-round LMG magazines! Once you pulled the trigger best hang on! :lol:

[MapleLeafUp]

those are some badass looking guns at ds arms. Now my wife really has a reason to bitch at me:)

[ABNINF]

Good looking rifles. They've got a Belgian FAL down at the Cabelas south of Austin, for $2500. I wish I could get one.

[Laworkerbee]

We have really generous gun laws up here in OR so it will be legal up here. I'm about 95% sure it would be illegal in commiefornia though.

EDIT: Looks like DSA makes some California legal FALs, so with some modification you might be able to make one legal.

Nothing more sad than a top loading abortion of an FAL

[sct1886]

We used to jam a tooth pick or a wooden match in the firing mech to make it full auto......I mean fast firing semi!

This is a very good way to win a Darwin award. By jamming a toothpick in the trigger mechanism the hammer follows the bolt foward. The weapon is firing "out of battery". In other words the bolt is not fully locked. You are fortunate that the rifle did not blow up in your face. Girls and boys do not do this at home. It is illegal and dangerous.

[sct1886]

Imbels are not the same as the C1A1. Imbels are metric while C1A1's are imperial. They are a completely different rifle. In Canada C1A1's go for at least $1000 but you have to hold a 12.5 prohibited license.

There is very little difference between the metric and inch. They are different in that the mags are not readily interchangeable, close. I have seen some rifles that had hand fitted mag wells that took both inch and metric. I prefer metric magazines only because they are more common. The inch mags are more robust. The controls are slightly different. Inch FALs had generally better controls. You will find a huge variety of FAL parts. Everyone has thier preferences, get out and find a FAL shoot from the falfiles and handle and shoot before you buy if possible. The Canucks had a nice rotary sight and a top cover capable of being loaded with strippers. Read up before you buy. The best way is to buy a receiver and get some help to build it yourself. You will have a much better understanding of the rifle. The falfiles has very detailed info.: www.falfiles.com

[scrybe]

Nothing more sad than a top loading abortion of an FAL

I know. California's gun laws make me cry a little on the inside.

I'd seriously consider living in California for a bit after college if it weren't for the gun laws.

[Laworkerbee]

I know. California's gun laws make me cry a little on the inside.

I'd seriously consider living in California for a bit after college if it weren't for the gun laws.

I just want dual citizenship...mind if I pay your gas bill for a while? ;)

[SuperTrooper]

This is a very good way to win a Darwin award. By jamming a toothpick in the trigger mechanism the hammer follows the bolt foward. The weapon is firing "out of battery". In other words the bolt is not fully locked. You are fortunate that the rifle did not blow up in your face. Girls and boys do not do this at home. It is illegal and dangerous.

Yes I Know, things that we did 15 years ago was considered fun when we were young and lining up for the Darwin award, I'm sure you have been in that line like all of us at one point in time.

[sct1886]

Yes I Know, things that we did 15 years ago was considered fun when we were young and lining up for the Darwin award, I'm sure you have been in that line like all of us at one point in time.

And the scars to prove my stupidity.

[Hydro]

Nothing more sad than a top loading abortion of an FAL



Well, technically the C1 is top loading anyway p-)

[TonyT]

Why go through the grind of building one yourself? You can get a great version, made here, in the United States, from DSArms. All types of FAL's as well as kits.

There are far too many variations of FAL parts that are not technically equivalent and many aren't safe. Go with a company with warranty.

[SuperTrooper]

And the scars to prove my stupidity.

I have those as well, except mine was from a AT-3 Sagger, no toothpicks involved on that!

[mrf2]

Sct1886-

On the Military versions of the L1A1/C1A1 and FAL there was a saftey sear that prevented the hammer from moving until the bolt was locked into battery. This is how the full auto position in those rifles worked, the selector held the sear so it could not engage the hammer until the trigger was released. The only functional difference between the metric and inch fire control groups (besides the pin that holds the sear to the trigger so it doesn't fly apart when you strip the trigger mech and lack of hammer stop in the pin retaining plate) is the semi-auto only selector. If replaced with a metric full auto selector full auto function is enabled. All semi-auto rifles in the US (Except the G series and the first belgian type threes) lack the saftey sear or the provision for it, aka it is impossible to add with out major modifications to several parts of the rifle. Trying the matchbook stunt on a US semi rifle would cause it to explode, on an issue C1A1, which is what we are talking about, should be harmless. Anyway, that is my understanding of things. YMMV!

mrf2

[gafkiwi]

Cause I don't currently have the correct licence fora standard L1A1, I had to get the one a mate sold to me (aussy made 1963 ) modified, 7rd mag, no free standing pistol grip flash suppressor or bayonet boss.
What "F'd" me of was the firearms inspections officer made my mate remove the thread for the flash suppressor before he'd re classify it,So the barrel is 10mm short. It doesn't sound like much but its now for ever altered from its original condition. Pretty sad considering its in excellent condition all the numbers are matching and it shoots like a dream.

So what did I do..... Got it suppressed, a bipod, muzzel brake and a scope chucked on and now it has built up a pretty impressive goat and wallaby tally.

Once I get the correct licence I may see about getting another barrel and returning it to its former glory, but its never gonna be "Original"

[gaijinsamurai]

I personally prefer the metric-pattern (Belgian, Steyr, Imbel, etc.) FALS over the inch-pattern (Brit L1A1, Aussie, NZ, and Canuck) types, but one nice advantage of the inch-pattern rifles is that they will accept both types of magazines, whereas the metrics will only accept metric magazines.

[ctcboy]

Imbels are not the same as the C1A1. Imbels are metric while C1A1's are imperial. They are a completely different rifle. In Canada C1A1's go for at least $1000 but you have to hold a 12.5 prohibited license.

What is a 12.5 prohibited license? I have never heard of that.

[speckfire]

What is a 12.5 prohibited license? I have never heard of that.

Welcome to 1995

Read em and weep

http://www.cfc-cafc.gc.ca/factsheets/prohibited_e.asp

http://www.cfc-cafc.gc.ca/factsheets/r&p_e.asp

[ctcboy]

Thanks. I have a restricted license but I guess I never read the prohibited sections of the law. Do you ever wonder wich specific breed of monkey they hired to write our gun laws?

[gafkiwi]

I don't know but we must have a similar breed in NZ that wrote our gun laws.

[crayola]

Welcome to 1995

Read em and weep

http://www.cfc-cafc.gc.ca/factsheets/prohibited_e.asp

http://www.cfc-cafc.gc.ca/factsheets/r&p_e.asp

so the FAL has got to be grandfathered to you?

please PM me the answer, my email account ain't working

[Mister_manji]

i'm actually going to move out of hell by next year, portland oregon is my hopeful
Come join the fun! Like Canada, but with more hippies! Good luck finding a job though!

[kongman]

I don't know but we must have a similar breed in NZ that wrote our gun laws.


hey lucky you dont live in australia

[gaijinsamurai]

Good luck finding a job though!

x2. Aint that the truth!
The employment situation here sucks!

[Bro Jangles]

x2. Aint that the truth!
The employment situation here sucks!
little easier up here.

[Redleg29]

The 8L C1A1 never had plastic furniture on it.