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Digimon
04-06-2007, 11:15 PM
Something really funny that just came up yesterday. Did not know whether to post it in the Humor Topics or here… Bear with me for a second.

1) Here is how the Center For Security Policy – a neoconservative US think tank - describes itself:

“The Center for Security Policy is a non-profit, non-partisan national security organization that specializes in identifying policies, actions, and resource needs that are vital to American security and then ensures that such issues are the subject of both focused, principled examination and effective action by recognized policy experts, appropriate officials, opinion leaders, and the general public.

The Center was founded in 1988 and has worked to great effect since then in the establishment of successful national security policies through the use of all elements of national power – diplomatic (http://javascript<b></b>:InternalLink('/home.aspx?sid=56&categoryid=75&subcategoryid=77&newsid=11585')), informational (http://javascript<b></b>:InternalLink('/home.aspx?sid=56&categoryid=75&subcategoryid=78&newsid=11586')), military (http://javascript<b></b>:InternalLink('/home.aspx?sid=56&categoryid=75&subcategoryid=76&newsid=11591')), and economic (http://javascript<b></b>:InternalLink('/home.aspx?sid=56&categoryid=75&subcategoryid=97&newsid=11587'))strength.

The philosophy of "Peace through Strength" is not a slogan for military might but a belief that America's national power must be preserved and properly used for it holds a unique global role in maintaining peace and stability. …

Click on the above topics to learn how the Center's projects correspond to the various elements of national power as well as what the Center is doing to strengthen our homeland security (http://javascript<b></b>:InternalLink('/home.aspx?sid=56&categoryid=75&subcategoryid=98&newsid=11588')).”

“Policy Mission:To identify challenges and opportunities likely to affect American security, broadly defined, and to act promptly and creatively to ensure that they are the subject of focused national examination and effective action."

CSP's slogan is: “To promote world peace through American strength.”

Source (Their website): http://www.centerforsecuritypolicy.org/Home.aspx?SID=75 (http://www.centerforsecuritypolicy.org/Home.aspx?SID=75)
Source: http://rightweb.irc-online.org/profile/1456

Now…

2) Here is what the organizational committee of the main Russian opposition movement “Other Russia” – headed by Garry Kasparov – says in its Manifesto:

“It is time to say to the power holders. Enough. This is our country! It was created by our fathers and grandfathers! And you are nobody here! Your homeland is Kurshavel. Therefore get out of here! Today, only mass civil confrontation with the Kremlin occupants is capable of saving Russia from destruction! The time has come to show the will and responsibility. Only together, shoulder to shoulder, we can get back our country and save it for our children! Together we will be victorious!”


Sources(Their websites):
http://www.kasparov.ru/material.php?id=457002240A2C4 (http://www.kasparov.ru/material.php?id=457002240A2C4)
http://www.theotherrussia.ru/eng/membership/ (http://www.theotherrussia.ru/eng/membership/)
http://www.theotherrussia.ru/eng/statement/ (http://www.theotherrussia.ru/eng/statement/)

3) Here is the punch line: Kasparov – the leader of Other Russia, who appeals to the international community to save Russia from Putin - is apparently one of the Council Members of the US Center for Security Policy, alongside of such individuals as Richard Perle, Edwin Feulner (president of Heritage Foundation), Christopher Lay, James Woolsey (former director of the Central Intelligence Agency), and others…


Source (Their website): http://www.centerforsecuritypolicy.org/Home.aspx?SID=66&CategoryID=66&SubCategoryID=50&NewsID=11593 (http://www.centerforsecuritypolicy.org/Home.aspx?SID=66&CategoryID=66&SubCategoryID=50&NewsID=11593)

Kasparov with the next presidential election hopeful Kasyanov during a recent protest:

http://pix.lenta.ru/photo/2006/12/16/nesoglasnye/15.jpg

http://pix.lenta.ru/photo/2006/12/16/nesoglasnye/09.jpg

http://pix.lenta.ru/photo/2006/12/16/nesoglasnye/23.jpg

Rictor
04-06-2007, 11:56 PM
Kasparov with the next presidential election hopeful Kasyanov during a recent protest:
And on the left, the real power on the streets: Trotsky himself, looking incredibly good for someone his age.

;);)

edit: Kasparov may sit on the board of some neo-con think tank with Perle & Co., but as long as Russia's economy is booming, crime is not rampant, or at least overt, and her stature continues to increase both at home and abroad, the would-be revolutionaries don't stand a chance. Right or wrong, Putin is more popular than Jesus and vodka combined.

themacedonian
04-07-2007, 12:51 AM
Aaaaa Kasparov the best presidential candidate money can buy.

Well I thought this is all common knowledge.

The US is organising opposition to the Russian president because they CAN! Why not. What would be the reprecussions if they don't succeed? Nothing. The benefits enourmous. Kasparov is just a smart investment with possible big returns.

Sergei
04-07-2007, 01:48 AM
Yep, Russian USchenko.

The appaling thing is in US everybody finds it absolutely fine to stick their noses in the internal affairs of a sovereign country.

This is Trotskism with "world-wide revolution" at its finest. Replace "world-wide revolution" with "war on terror".


P.S. As I understand Kasyanov aka "Misha %2" is number one with Kasparov as a substitute.

The bad thing is that these fellas marginalized the very good ideas of liberalism because everybody in Russia knows that they work for another government.

asch
04-07-2007, 02:34 AM
"Trotsky" is Eduard Limonov, ex-icon of natsbols (nationalist bolsheviks) and some sort of glamourous russian nazi, now trendy revolutionare. typical political prostitute.

http://www.dni.ru/upimg/111984.jpg
http://www.kompromat.lv/limonov.jpg

Digimon
04-07-2007, 02:40 AM
"Trotsky" is Eduard Limonov, ex-icon of natsbols (nationalist bolsheviks) and some sort of glamourous russian nazi, now trendy revolutionare. typical political prostitute.


Limonov Online Answers: http://www.lenta.ru/conf/270307limonov/

Jocker_89
04-07-2007, 03:26 AM
Eduard Limonov reminds me someone :)

http://pix.lenta.ru/conf/270307limonov/picture.jpg
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http://www.socjalizm.info/pliki/obrazki/lenin.jpg

LENIN ALWAYS ALIVE xD

themacedonian
04-07-2007, 06:21 AM
Trotsky" is Eduard Limonov, ex-icon of natsbols (nationalist bolsheviks) and some sort of glamourous russian nazi, now trendy revolutionare. typical political prostitute.


National Bolsheviks (aka Communist) a reminds me of the German National Socialist Party.

I remember the "western" news story about this protest and how this is an opposition protest to Putin without pointing out that THIS opposition is something that no one will want to have.

On the other hand the west might wish Russia to have anyone BUT a capable person in power in Russia.



Napred Vlado. :)

intelligenzija
04-07-2007, 08:09 AM
good post thank you

Sergei
04-07-2007, 10:14 AM
http://www.kompromat.lv/limonov.jpg


Scary guys, a show of freaks.

Digimon
04-07-2007, 01:28 PM
"Trotsky" is Eduard Limonov, ex-icon of natsbols (nationalist bolsheviks) and some sort of glamourous russian nazi, now trendy revolutionare. typical political prostitute.

National Bolsheviks (aka Communist) a reminds me of the German National Socialist Party.

I remember the "western" news story about this protest and how this is an opposition protest to Putin without pointing out that THIS opposition is something that no one will want to have.

On the other hand the west might wish Russia to have anyone BUT a capable person in power in Russia.



Napred Vlado. :)

That's not my quote. It was posted by asch.

Digimon
04-07-2007, 02:09 PM
I do not think that either Limonov, or Kasparov are in this for the money. They are typical intellectuals – Kasparov is concerned with liberties as they are understood within western tradition, Limonov with social justice and opposition to western libertarianism. Both seem to be deep converts to their own cause.

I found this situation funny for many reasons, but primarily because it is such a horrible cliché. Political opposition and liberal ideals do not need any more discrediting in Russia – and yet Kasparov via CSP manages to add to it.

According to recent polls, 18-20% (majority among 18-23 year olds) of Russian electorate gives priority to the issues of freedoms and democratic institutions. Yet they do not vote for parties that give these issues central place in their political programs, and it seems clear why. These parties have no credit of faith. Now the situation is even more absurd. Who in their right mind would vote to bring into power a political organization which believes that peace should be maintained through American dictates from a position of strength?

dimasorokine
04-08-2007, 02:05 AM
Why not just stick to playing Chess against computers? Oh well, at least they like this guy in the west - thats all that matters to him anyway.

-Dima

loganinkosovo
04-08-2007, 02:32 AM
National Bolsheviks (aka Communist) a reminds me of the German National Socialist Party.

I remember the "western" news story about this protest and how this is an opposition protest to Putin without pointing out that THIS opposition is something that no one will want to have.

On the other hand the west might wish Russia to have anyone BUT a capable person in power in Russia.



Napred Vlado. :)

You forget that the vast majority of Western News Media is run by and staffed by Communists and Fellow Travelers. They find Themselves right at home with these type of people......

asch
04-08-2007, 07:56 AM
Scary guys, a show of freaks.

they looks like a happy gay family. p-) posing with Lenin.

perdurabo
04-08-2007, 08:59 AM
they looks like a happy gay family. p-) posing with Lenin.
i would rather say ******l offenders family or child molesters, gomosek's are more colorfull p-)

Digimon
06-11-2007, 09:27 PM
CSP pullled Kasparov's name from their pages... Here is Mark Ames from exile on why....

http://www.exile.ru/2007-April-20/deleted_scenes_from_the_protest.html

good copy...

tyovan
06-12-2007, 06:54 AM
Very interesting and insightful reading gentlemen - thank you all for posting. :)

Serjey
06-12-2007, 07:31 AM
everyone knows that next president will be Ivanov, but i cant stop admireing this show every 4 years ^^

Doublethinker
06-12-2007, 07:42 AM
Happy Russia's day, my dear patriotic retards.

asch
06-12-2007, 09:28 AM
Happy Russia's day, my dear patriotic retards.

still have a bitter taste for choosing extremely moronic leaders, my dear?
how intelligent of you, btw.
it's '"Other Russia" Day' for you, i presume?

koozya
06-14-2007, 04:07 PM
Happy Russia's day, my dear patriotic retards.
wow we have a smart one here

Jobu
06-14-2007, 04:32 PM
http://pix.lenta.ru/photo/2006/12/16/nesoglasnye/15.jpg

Trotsky on the left, Bill Gates on the right. Like a true chessmaster Kasparov has all his bases covered.

Thor
06-14-2007, 08:17 PM
Looks like 1917 all over again, bolscheviks financed by their brothers on Wall Street to start a revolution.

Then they targeted Romanov, now it's Putin.

Kangars
06-15-2007, 05:28 AM
The difference is that in 1917 csar did not enjoy popular support of Russian popolation. But I did get the irony thou. OMON should keep an eye on Avrora cruiser :)

Flamming_Python
06-15-2007, 11:15 AM
http://pix.lenta.ru/photo/2006/12/16/nesoglasnye/15.jpg

http://cache.eb.com/eb/image?id=96106&rendTypeId=4

Lenin, German agent.
Kasparov, American agent.

Whatever the truth is, the fact is that Lenin had ideas that appealed to everyone who was disillusioned with the old system (Tsarism).

Kasparov has ideas that appeal only to those who AREN'T disillusioned with the old system (Yeltsin).

The Americans sent their agent ass-backwards instructions :D

ex-cop
06-15-2007, 03:04 PM
i think all these "others" are still free because Kremlin is interested in having an official opposition, because without opposition there won't be full democracy

That's why all these "others" could bark everything they like

MZKT
06-15-2007, 05:02 PM
Well Kasparov being a member of a US security think tank and commited to act for USA national interests is an interesting candidate for russian opposition.

I wonder how many votes a member of Iranian security council would win when running for US presidency.

Pacting with neo-nazis and being the darling of western media, that's possible only when promoting himself as an oppressed russian "democrat".