AMX-10RC French Recon Vehicle

[Mirlo]

Hi, I am making a data sheet for the AMX-10RC french recon vehicle, and I have a couple of questions:

1- The main armament is a 105mm rifled or smooth bore gun.
2- What are the french designation names for the rounds of the main gun.
3- What was the old transmission and what is the new one

Best regards

Mirlo

[frogfoot]

1- The main armament is a 105mm rifled or smooth bore gun.
105mm(48 Cal)CN-105-F2 rifled gun;manual loading 38(12 ready,26
stowed)APFSDS-T, HEAT-T, HE-T Early versions:105 mm BK MECA L/48
(Vo 800 m/s)


2- What are the french designation names for the rounds of the main gun.
Find info:GIAT Industries-pénétrateur en tungstène(masse projectile
3,8 kg, vitesse initiale 1 400 m/s,portée 1 000 m)charge creuse(masse
projectile 5,7 kg,vitesse initiale 11 120 m/s)explosif à grande
puissance(masse projectile 7,1 kg,vitesse initiale 800m/s)fumigène
entraînement.


3- What was the old transmission and what is the new one
No info,but:A 280hp Baudouin 6F 11 SRX engine replaced the original
engine(HS-115) in some upgrades.In 1997 the French army
demonstrated a version of the Leclerc
Battlefield Management System on the AMX-10RC.

[Mirlo]

1- The main armament is a 105mm rifled or smooth bore gun.
105mm(48 Cal)CN-105-F2 rifled gun;manual loading 38(12 ready,26
stowed)APFSDS-T, HEAT-T, HE-T Early versions:105 mm BK MECA L/48
(Vo 800 m/s)


Just a few questions regarding this point:

- Is the CN105F2 a derivative of the CN105F1, which equips the AMX-30 battle tank??.
- Is the CN105F2 a low pressure gun??
- The AMX-10RC carries 38 rounds, 12 are stored in the turret but the other 26 where?? I supose the are on the drivers right, but this is in my oponion dangerous. Can someone confirm this point??



2- What are the french designation names for the rounds of the main gun.
Find info:GIAT Industries-pénétrateur en tungstène(masse projectile
3,8 kg, vitesse initiale 1 400 m/s,portée 1 000 m)charge creuse(masse
projectile 5,7 kg,vitesse initiale 11 120 m/s)explosif à grande
puissance(masse projectile 7,1 kg,vitesse initiale 800m/s)fumigène
entraînement.



11.120 m/s for the Charge Creuse is not too much???? What means Charge Creuse?? HEAT??



3- What was the old transmission and what is the new one
No info,but:A 280hp Baudouin 6F 11 SRX engine replaced the original
engine(HS-115) in some upgrades.In 1997 the French army
demonstrated a version of the Leclerc
Battlefield Management System on the AMX-10RC.


ummm.... that is a little bite strange, I don't now why is so difficult to find that transmissions.

Yes it is true the upgraded AMX-10RC will have a Battlefield Management System. It will be the SIT-V1 (Systeme Information Terminale - V1) developed by NEXTER (Formerly GIAT) and is a development of the FINDERS, which equip the Leclerc.

Best Regards

Mirlo

[frogfoot]

More info:

transmission- RENK Aktiengesellschaft


Nexter Munitions offers a full range of NATO-standard 105 mm tank ammunition of proven reliability and high hit effectiveness. They can be fired by the F1, L7, M68 and G2 guns fitted in particular to the AMX-30, Leopard 1, M60 and M48A5 vehicles and to the TML 105 turret.

OFL
Total weight (kg) 18,00
Total length (mm) 985
Projectile weight (kg) 6,25
Muzzle velocity (m/s) 1 495
Projectile type APFSDS (W)
Casing type Steel or brass
Primer type Electric
Powder type Double base
Powder weight (kg) 5,85
Standard deviation on accuracy (mils) < 0,25
Range 3 500
Effectiveness Penetrates single and triple NATO heavy vehicle targets beyond 2,000 m


OE
Total weight (kg) 21,00
Total length (mm) 998
Projectile weight (kg) 12,10
Muzzle velocity (m/s) 690
Projectile type HE
Casing type Steel or brass
Primer type Electric
Powder type Simple base
Powder weight (kg) 2,40
Standard deviation on accuracy (mils) < 0,35
Range (m) 925
Effectiveness AP effectiveness lethal radius R = 15

Pénétrateur en tungstene(masse projectile 3,8 kg,vitesse initiale 1400
m/s,portée 1000 m)
Charge creuse(masse projectile 5,7 kg,vitesse initiale 11120 m/s)
Explosif a grande puissance(masse projectile 7,1 kg,vitesse initiale 800 m/s)

There are two turret configurations for the AMX 10RC: the TK 105 turret with light 105mm gun or the TML 105 turret with 105mm NATO standard gun, both manufactured by Giat Industries. The TK 105 and TML 105 turrets use a mantlet sight, which is firmly linked to the movements of the gun for firing accuracy.

The TML 105 turret has a conveyor for storing and loading ammunition rounds. The Giat Industries APFSDS (armour-piercing, fin-stabilised, discarding sabot) 105 F1 round, fired by the TML 105 gun, can destroy single and triple NATO heavy tanks at a distance of 2,200m. The hit probability is stated as higher than 90% at 2,000m.

The hydropneumatic suspension is supplied by Messier Auto Industrie.

For more info and details ask Baron Harkonnen!He is the "tank professor" in Mil.Photos forum.

[frogfoot]

Ammo and gun:

[Mirlo]

Thank you very much!!! for that info!!!

I found out more things regarding the ammo of the CN105 F2 Gun.

- HEAT OCC105 F3
- APFSDS OFL105F3
- HE OE105F3

I hope they are right. After that, do you know what company is manufacturing the wheels??.

Best regards

Mirlo

[frogfoot]

After that, do you know what company is manufacturing the wheels??


Hutchinson Defence and Security division
and(?i'm not sure) Michelin

[deagle]

looks like a cool vehicle, has it been battle-tested in french operations or training exercises (in contrast to a testing field) ?

[Atlantic Friend]

looks like a cool vehicle, has it been battle-tested in french operations or training exercises (in contrast to a testing field) ?

It was used in Chad against Lybian forces and their proxies in the mid 1980s and in Desert Storm IIRC.

[Mirlo]

Yes, it is combat proven at least in the following operations:

- Operation Manta, Tchad, 1983-1984
- Operation Daguet, Irak, 1991
- KFOR
- SFOR
- Operation Eparvier, Côte d'Ivory, 2006 at least, probably other deployments before.

You should consider that this vehicle is in service since 1979 in the french army.

Best regards

Mirlo