Top Iran MP wants talks with US House speaker Pelosi

[Geezah]

A top MP said on Friday the Tehran parliament would favour talks with US House Speaker Nancy Pelosi after her controversial visit to Iran's ally Syria, the semi-official Fars news agency reported.
"We are ready for talks with US House Speaker Nancy Pelosi," said Mohammad Nabi Rudaki, deputy head of the influential national security commission in Iran's conservative-dominated parliament.

"Parliamentary talks can discuss bilateral problems and bring US, European and Iranian nations closer. They could also consider Iran's peaceful nuclear issues," he said.

But Rudaki added that "this willingness does not mean a resumption of political ties with the occupying and bullying US government."

Pelosi's office said on Wednesday she had no intention of visiting Iran after a top US lawmaker signalled she might be interested in doing so.

House Foreign Affairs Committee Chairman Tom Lantos said after accompanying Pelosi to Damascus to meet Syrian President Bashar al-Assad amid stiff White House opposition that he had tried for more than 10 years to get a visa for Iran.

Tehran and Washington have had no diplomatic ties since Islamist revolutionaries raided the US embassy in Iran in 1979 and held staff hostage for 444 days.

The US is spearheading an international campaign to thwart Iran enriching uranium, which it alleges to be a cover for weapons development. Tehran denies the charges, saying its nuclear programme is for purely peaceful purposes.

Link (http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=070413171900.9mgyitu3&show_article=1)

I just hope she goes to Tehran, then I can shove the trip down the throat of every Democrat I know!

No matter what it costs she will do what ever it takes to undermine the current administration.............for the Libs on here, I hope you're proud!

[Violet Fashion by Mindy]

Every political party in history has undermined the government. It's what they do.

[Geezah]

Very true, but this to me is almost as bad as what that scumbag Kerry did................

[Dasein]

It is very nice to see Pelosi try and repair the diplomatic reputation of the United States and work to secure our interests abroad. Bush has squandered American soft power and allowed our diplomacy to atrophy. Pelosi is beginning to repair the damage done by the Bush administration, and when the democrats regain the White House in 2008, hopefully we will see real progress made on the diplomatic front.

In the mean time, Bush needs to be undermined, and the democrats are dong a good job of that. While Bush is rendered impotent by scandal after scandal, the dmeocrats can actually do what is needed to secure the interests of this country.

So, please do try and publicize this - Pelosi is succeding in weeks where Bush has failed for years.

[sferrin]

Iran doesn't want to talk to Pelosi, they just want to take the golden opportunity to give the current administration the finger with a willing accomplice.

[Freedom-Fries]

It's something Pelosi might easily do, but remember it was David Satterfield and Zalmay that were first rolling out the red carpet for Iran in Baghdad
http://www.kevinmenzie.com/thinking/archives/redCarpet.jpg

[shocker1]

It is very nice to see Pelosi try and repair the diplomatic reputation of the United States and work to secure our interests abroad. Bush has squandered American soft power and allowed our diplomacy to atrophy. Pelosi is beginning to repair the damage done by the Bush administration, and when the democrats regain the White House in 2008, hopefully we will see real progress made on the diplomatic front.

In the mean time, Bush needs to be undermined, and the democrats are dong a good job of that. While Bush is rendered impotent by scandal after scandal, the dmeocrats can actually do what is needed to secure the interests of this country.

So, please do try and publicize this - Pelosi is succeding in weeks where Bush has failed for years.
Are you kidding me? The problems in the Middle East go well beyond the current President. Some of the greatest names in diplomacy have been burned there. How many______ Accords have been signed with handshakes and smiles. Pelosi is no diplomat and does not have the proper mandate nor broad vote of our members of Congress.

I for one think the President should have met with the Leaders of Iran and Syria long ago. Took them to task, call them out to show their cards. Too late now as this trip of hers undermined any speck of diplomacy he has left. I for one want answers now and I agree the President I support lacks real international leadership now. That is however no excuse to undermine him from behind and front.

To top it off we have suicide bombers killing Iraqi lawmakers, terrorists that kill in unspeakable ways and blow up fruit markets with cars. We can argue about the mistakes but to drive on the President day after day after day. While things like I described go on should be drawing loud and strong protest and action. The fact is our leaders only care about the next vote with the exception of McCain and Lieberman.

[-peacemaker-]

It is very nice to see Pelosi try and repair the diplomatic reputation of the United States and work to secure our interests abroad. Bush has squandered American soft power and allowed our diplomacy to atrophy. Pelosi is beginning to repair the damage done by the Bush administration, and when the democrats regain the White House in 2008, hopefully we will see real progress made on the diplomatic front.

In the mean time, Bush needs to be undermined, and the democrats are dong a good job of that. While Bush is rendered impotent by scandal after scandal, the dmeocrats can actually do what is needed to secure the interests of this country.

So, please do try and publicize this - Pelosi is succeding in weeks where Bush has failed for years.

Of course, you're completely right. We all know that one can reason with people who make such statements as: "Israel should be wiped off the map" or "hey our nuclear program is peaceful but if you keep pressuring us it might not be." :roll: There is a reason why the current administration is not talking with Iran, you might want to read up on recent news articles.

[D-gin]

In the mean time, Bush needs to be undermined, and the democrats are dong a good job of that. While Bush is rendered impotent by scandal after scandal, the dmeocrats can actually do what is needed to secure the interests of this country.

I'm a firm believer in diplomacy and I do think Bush has done some stupid things in that area but undermining the President won't achieve anything positive.

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USA is not the property of the President.

At least not that I heard of, but I could be wrong.

[Rictor]

Link (http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=070413171900.9mgyitu3&show_article=1)

I just hope she goes to Tehran, then I can shove the trip down the throat of every Democrat I know!

No matter what it costs she will do what ever it takes to undermine the current administration.............for the Libs on here, I hope you're proud!

Let me take a guess and say that you're not a big fan of engagement as the best solution to the current crisis?

[Mailman]

USA is not the property of the President.

At least not that I heard of, but I could be wrong.

However foreign policy IS the property of el presidante and the state department.


Mailman

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However foreign policy IS the property of el presidante and the state department.


Mailman
Nancy Pelosi is the third in the line of power.

If El Presidente is not happy with her ways, he just has to put her on the no fly list and to pretend he wasn't the one who asked for it.

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However foreign policy IS the property of el presidante and the state department.


Mailman
It's their responsibility. Not their property.

[Geezah]

Let me take a guess and say that you're not a big fan of engagement as the best solution to the current crisis?

Engagement ,for how long, how long do we engage them in dialog, just where did it get the administrations that came before this one????

If I thought it would work I would be all for it, but just like every school bully their not interested in discussion........of any kind.

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Engagement ,for how long, how long do we engage them in dialog, just where did it get the administrations that came before this one????

If I thought it would work I would be all for it, but just like every school bully their not interested in discussion........of any kind.
If Pelosi would be as good in a dialogue with the Iranians as she is with the current administration in the WhiteHouse, the bullies in Tehran would at least have to pretend they're interested in a dialog.

Otherwise, Pelosi would be in a good position to send them a few very finely targeted subpeonas from the two or three carrier forces currently in the Persian Gulf to get them back to the table.

A simple question of organization.

[California Joe]

What if they've all been watching a lot of Law and Order and they're playing Good Cop/Bad Cop...It works at home politically, they get to slam each other and cater to their main supporters and just maybe it might work a little magic in the rest of the world....

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What if they've all been watching a lot of Law and Order and they're playing Good Cop/Bad Cop...It works at home politically, they get to slam each other and cater to their main supporters and just maybe it might work a little magic in the rest of the world....
Absolutely. I don't know what they've been looking, but Everything on the table.

And keep in mind who'se bigger than who :)

[sferrin]

Engagement ,for how long, how long do we engage them in dialog, just where did it get the administrations that came before this one????

If I thought it would work I would be all for it, but just like every school bully their not interested in discussion........of any kind.

Yeah but didn't you know if you talk long enough they'll just beat the $hit out of you in ten minutes instead of five? More likely though it'll just give the bully's friends a chance to show up and get a few licks in of their own.

[sferrin]

What if they've all been watching a lot of Law and Order and they're playing Good Cop/Bad Cop...It works at home politically, they get to slam each other and cater to their main supporters and just maybe it might work a little magic in the rest of the world....

Sounds like those **** have you under a spell. Pelosi is grandstanding, nothing more.

(jk of course ;) )

[Biglug]

I'd like it if not only Pelosi went but the whole radical left took a nice trip out to say hi.woot


and if Bush happened to feel it the perfect time to bomb the crap out of Tehran for their efforts to take more of our soldiers lives in Iraq through training insurgents and arming them better, ............I wouldn't shed a tear,.........hell, I'd tilt a cold one in thanks for doing some much needed house cleaning for the United States of America.;-)

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Yeah but didn't you know if you talk long enough they'll just beat the $hit out of you in ten minutes instead of five? More likely though it'll just give the bully's friends a chance to show up and get a few licks in of their own.
If she can beat the **** out of Bush, she can beat the Iranians every day of the week.

Question of organization as I said, and of remembering who'se bigger than who.

And the fact she's a woman can only confuse the mullah even further.

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Sounds like those **** have you under a spell. Pelosi is grandstanding, nothing more.

(jk of course ;) )
Maybe she is grandstanding, but she's not the only one:


http://img341.imageshack.us/img341/1131/photosgeorgebushmissionsk3.jpg



couldn't resist.

[name already taken]

What if they've all been watching a lot of Law and Order and they're playing Good Cop/Bad Cop...It works at home politically, they get to slam each other and cater to their main supporters and just maybe it might work a little magic in the rest of the world....
Seems the rest of the world could resist the spell a little while...

[Dakota435]

Maybe she is grandstanding, but she's not the only one:


http://img341.imageshack.us/img341/1131/photosgeorgebushmissionsk3.jpg



couldn't resist.

He's an ex fighter jock. I like that pic.

[Dakota435]

What if they've all been watching a lot of Law and Order and they're playing Good Cop/Bad Cop...It works at home politically, they get to slam each other and cater to their main supporters and just maybe it might work a little magic in the rest of the world....

I've wondered about that, but someone like Pelosi is just too freakin' clueless for it to make sense. Ya gotta remember, these are people who believe that all people are good and can be reasoned with. I think they are sincere in their lunacy.

[shocker1]

Nancy reminds me of my first grade teacher, overbearing, vindictive, smearky, big **** and snobbish. I used to cut up and a bunch of us would get under the desk and make fart sounds with our arm pits. Well it was damn funny then. The old bat would make us sit in a circle and clap our hands untill they were fire red or smack our hands with a ruler. She even called me little Jew boy not being nice either. Yep Nancy is just like her. My teacher is long dead now and would not fit into this Nancy's PC world. So in that respect they are different but they both are screeching chaulk boards.

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I've wondered about that, but someone like Pelosi is just too freakin' clueless for it to make sense. Ya gotta remember, these are people who believe that all people are good and can be reasoned with. I think they are sincere in their lunacy.
She had to win elections. And she's now third in the line of power in USA.

How could she simply think all people are good ?

If you keep sending lunatics to power, you should stop whining and get there yourself.

[name already taken]

Nancy reminds me of my first grade teacher, overbearing, vindictive, smearky, big **** and snobbish. I used to cut up and a bunch of us would get under the desk and make fart sounds with our arm pits. Well it was damn funny then. The old bat would make us sit in a circle and clap our hands untill they were fire red or smack our hands with a ruler. She even called me little Jew boy not being nice either. Yep Nancy is just like her. My teacher is long dead now and would not fit into this Nancy's PC world. So in that respect they are different but they both are screeching chaulk boards.
You knew your teacher personally. Do you know Nancy Pelosi personally too ?

[name already taken]

He's an ex fighter jock. I like that pic.
He was trained on a soon to be retired plane and he was even afraid of it.

Like riding a horse.

This picture is just a photo op. Nothing more.

And yes, he looks like a rich brat who thinks he's rich enough to afford the USA.

[Dakota435]

She had to win elections. And she's now third in the line of power in USA.

How could she simply think all people are good ?

If you keep sending lunatics to power, you should stop whining and get there yourself.

She represents a part of California where most people think like she does.

[name already taken]

She represents a part of California where most people think like she does.
Isn't that near Silicon Valley ?

[name already taken]

She represents a part of California where most people think like she does.
I know that where California Joe lives, they're even worse :grin:

[shocker1]

You knew your teacher personally. Do you know Nancy Pelosi personally too ?
What's that got to do with it? I know the same about both enough to form an opinion that satisfies my world view. Mrs. Speaker is playing games to furher undermine the President, that might be fine for partisans who only see the world in the next two digit election prefix. I think it sets up issues for future Presidents. Will you be as supportive of a Republican speaker underminig the polices of a Democratic President? I won't and will defend the Lefty inspite of disagreeing with him. Congress has many ways to engage our President and diplomats and form a single voice. Problem is neither party seems to be able to do this hence the issues of the last 40 years.

[name already taken]

What's that got to do with it? I know the same about both enough to form an opinion that satisfies my world view. Mrs. Speaker is playing games to furher undermine the President, that might be fine for partisans who only see the world in the next two digit election prefix. I think it sets up issues for future Presidents. Will you be as supportive of a Republican speaker underminig the polices of a Democratic President? I won't and will defend the Lefty inspite of disagreeing with him. Congress has many ways to engage our President and diplomats and form a single voice. Problem is neither party seems to be able to do this hence the issues of the last 40 years.
You mean she'd be doing a puppet sho to impress her constituents about how she can undermine the President because he's got more power than her ?

I'd think she's simply trying to prevent a conflagration in the middle east, and if the President isn't that happy with that, well, so be it. He's not been that good himself in avoiding disasters.

You may be right in saying the US politics has not been able to form a single voice in the last 40 years. But it may also be an utopy to think it would happen that way. Given your age you may not have noticed if it was the same before the last 40 years. Or maybe there's a problem that's been lasting for the last 40 years in the USA without getting any solution.

Me, I would lean in favor of the first possibility. You weren't there during the MacCarthy era to see if the USA politics formed a single voice then. You weren't there either during the 1930's depression to see if USA politics formed a single voice then.

And I believe there are three political bodies in the United States for them to argue with each other. Otherwise there would be only one in the Constitution.

And this, because previously there were problems dealing with one king.

The role of the military is to support the President.

But the politicians are not the military and they have a different role to play than to support the president. They are not employees of the president, they have been elected just like him and they are leaders by their own.

So they can argue and oppose each other without being seen as traitors under the constitution.