DEA Agent Shoots Himself During Gun Safety Class

[catdat]

DEA agent shoots self during gun safety class for Orlando kids

ORLANDO, Fla. — A federal drug agent shot himself in the leg during a gun safety presentation to children and his bosses are investigating.
The Drug Enforcement Administration agent, whose name was not released, was giving a gun safety presentation to about 50 adults and students organized by the Orlando Minority Youth Golf Association, witnesses and police said.
He drew his .40-caliber duty weapon and removed the magazine, according to the police report. Then he pulled back the slide and asked someone in the audience to look inside the gun and confirm it wasn't loaded, the report said.
Witnesses said the gun was pointed at the floor and when he released the slide, one shot fired into the top of his left thigh.
"The kids screamed and started to cry," said Vivian Farmer, who attended the presentation with her 13-year-old nephew.
"Everyone was pretty shaken up," Farmer said. "But the point of gun safety hit home. Unfortunately, the agent had to get shot. But after seeing that, my nephew doesn't want to have anything to do with guns."
The agent was treated at Orlando Regional Medical Center after the April 9 shooting and returned to work, DEA special agent Joe Kilmer said.
Police ruled the shooting was an accident, but the DEA headquarters in Washington was still investigating, Kilmer said.


April 30, 2004 - 10:23 a.m.

[American Patriot]

Sounds like the DEA alright.

It's going to be hard to undo what this idiot did to those kids.

[Chris1]

he must of got his training from tacticalmantra :D

[Uncle Sam]

Witnesses said the gun was pointed at the floor and when he released the slide, one shot fired into the top of his left thigh.

How does it "fire" by just releasing the slide?? He had to have released the slide and pulled the trigger. Oh well.

[Herrmannek]

.Darwin is proud of him ...

[Uninen]

:roll:

[MaDuce]

He probably took a big ass hit from hist bong.

[American Patriot]

I dunno, people who are stoned are usually more careful around potentially dangerous tools or machinery.

[Beowulf]

link please

[Uncle Sam]

It's from the Miami Herald (https://registration.realcities.com/reg/login.do?url=http://www.miami.com%2Fmld%2Fmiamiherald%2Fnews%2Fstate%2F8559126.htm)

[ibstolidude]

he must of got his training from tacticalmantra :D
NOW that is funny

[Beowulf]

It's from the Miami Herald (https://registration.realcities.com/reg/login.do?url=http://www.miami.com%2Fmld%2Fmiamiherald%2Fnews%2Fstate%2F8559126.htm)


http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald/news/8559126.htm?1c


Got it thanks.

[UkrainianAmerican]

.Darwin is proud of him ...
i bet he is.

[gilgoul]

NEVER BE HIGH AND MANIPULATE FIREARMS< THAT SHOULD BE DEA S MOTTO
seriously, i hope the guy will not be too disabled, 40 point blank is not that cool :cantbeli:

[Ngati Tumatauenga]

Chris 1 wrote,

he must of got his training from tacticalmantra

rofl

[hawkins308]

"How does it "fire" by just releasing the slide?? He had to have released the slide and pulled the trigger. Oh well."

It could have slam fired, its not common but happens. When you release the slide or bolt of an autoloading weapon it moves foward into battery with considerable force. Usually a slight dent is made into the primer of the round when this happens.

It is possiable for the fireing pin to engage the primer enough on charging the weapon for it to discharge. Ive had it happen with my SKS.

A word of warning when using commercially marketed ammo in military auto loaders is in order on that note. I bought some Winchester 7.62x39 and had severel slam fires through my SKS with it. Apparently the primers of the winchester were not as hard as those on military spec ammo, thus leading to lots of slam fires.

This reinforces why you always have your weapon pointed down range, or in a safe direction before you release the bolt or slide, and visually inspect the ejection port to ensure an empty weapon.

[Uncle Sam]

"How does it "fire" by just releasing the slide?? He had to have released the slide and pulled the trigger. Oh well."

It could have slam fired, its not common but happens. When you release the slide or bolt of an autoloading weapon it moves foward into battery with considerable force. Usually a slight dent is made into the primer of the round when this happens.

It is possiable for the fireing pin to engage the primer enough on charging the weapon for it to discharge. Ive had it happen with my SKS.

A word of warning when using commercially marketed ammo in military auto loaders is in order on that note. I bought some Winchester 7.62x39 and had severel slam fires through my SKS with it. Apparently the primers of the winchester were not as hard as those on military spec ammo, thus leading to lots of slam fires.

This reinforces why you always have your weapon pointed down range, or in a safe direction before you release the bolt or slide, and visually inspect the ejection port to ensure an empty weapon.

This wasn't an SKS. I, personally, have never had this happen. I have several handguns, and shoot them quite often. Just sayin'

[scm77]

Oopsy! :cantbeli:

[martinexsquaddie]

shoot an sks till it gets really dirty then it will start firing bursts rofl

[Mark Sman]

the primers of the winchester were not as hard as those on military spec ammo,
Yup, this is true. I have had an SKS go Class 3 on me before and a friend of mine had a colossal failure on the firing range when an M16A1 ripped all the remaining rounds in the magazine off due to internal failure.

Fortunately both incidents were on the range with weapon pointed safe and all that jazz.

Still, disconcerting. Wouldn't say it couldn't happen as I have had it happen to me and have heard of another incident .

Yeah, I hope this guy isn't to bad off. He was out there trying to teach safety to kids. Probably on his own time too.

I've seen out of battery discharges, chamber breaches, hang fires.

In one notable case I watched a buddy get hit in the unmentionables by a ricochet from a round he fired. Didn't even break the cloth but it floored him.

Word to the wise, follow the safety protocols. They were written by the people that survived.

[SABER 2-3]

Note to self: Snort thinner lines before giving un-authorized firearms safety demonstration to girlfriends class or retitle as "Ballistic effects".

[Michael RVR]

It could have slam fired, its not common but happens. When you release the slide or bolt of an autoloading weapon it moves foward into battery with considerable force. Usually a slight dent is made into the primer of the round when this happens.

It is possiable for the fireing pin to engage the primer enough on charging the weapon for it to discharge. Ive had it happen with my SKS.


According to the After Action reports from last year, this happens with the M4 as well. Personally i think it comes down to production quality and weapons design.

[ogukuo72]

I thought the DEA uses Glocks? This is really odd - I've never heard of Glocks firing when you release the slide.

[Fitzcarraldo]

An incident occured here in the 80s under extremely similar circumstances, TRG i believe.

[Geezah]

I thought the DEA uses Glocks? This is really odd - I've never heard of Glocks firing when you release the slide.

I'm not so quick to blame the gun......I would say it was user error. Maybe he should have racked the slide more than once rofl

We have the DEA in our building on the 4th floor, they play at being the building security from time to time, I'm so glad my tax $ are well spent!

[Erik_MAA]

"How does it "fire" by just releasing the slide?? He had to have released the slide and pulled the trigger.

I'm sure he did. For a Glock (or any other modern handgun) to "slam-fire" is almost impossible, due to the firing pin block safety.

I'm betting that, he either left the magazine in the gun, or left a round in the chamber. Regardless of what the article states, there had to be a round in the chamber for the gun to go off.

When I use real firearms in the classroom, I triple-check them. I check the gun, pass it to a student, have them check it, they pass it to another student, have them check it, and then I check it again.

I've seen a lot of cases where police officers were killed handling firearms in training. It's really a shame.