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Uncle Sam
04-30-2004, 09:08 PM
http://news.com.au/common/story_page/0,4057,9429807%255E15306,00.html


GOOGLE has filed its long-awaited IPO plans, thumbing its nose at Wall Street's traditions even as the company prepares to cash in on its meteoric success.

Without specifying a price per share, Google said it hopes to raise $US2.7 billion with an initial public offering that has created the biggest high-tech buzz since the dot-com bubble burst four years ago.

The IPO is expected to give Google a market value of at least $US20 billion, creating scores of new Silicon Valley millionaires — including many of the company's 1,900 employees.

"Feels great!" Google employee Edwina Beaus said as she walked between buildings at the company's Mountain View headquarters — a hub known as the "Googleplex".

But even as it prepared to dance with the Wall Street bankers who will take it public, Google warned investors that it won't take its marching orders from the markets.

"Google is not a conventional company. We do not intend to become one," co-founders Larry Page and Sergey Brin wrote in an open letter included in the IPO filing.

As expected, Google said the price of its IPO will be determined through an auction designed to give the general public a better chance to buy its stock before the shares begin trading, most likely in late summer or early autumn. IPO shares traditionally have been restricted to an elite group picked by the investment bankers handling the deal.

Google picked two long-established investment bankers — Morgan Stanley and Credit Suisse First Boston — to manage its populist IPO approach.

Although Google's stock won't be sold for several more months, the filing represents a significant milestone in the five-year-old company's evolution from a fun-loving startup to a corporate adolescent that will be held more accountable for how it manages its money.

Google has done well so far, according to a filing that shined a light on the privately held company's finances for the first time.

Depending almost entirely on advertising linked to online searches, Google earned $US105.6 million, or US41c per share, on revenue of $US962 million last year. Google got off to an even better start this year, with a first-quarter profit of $US64 million, or US24c per share — more than doubling its earnings of $US25.8 million, or US10c per share, at the same time last year.

By going public, Google will be under greater pressure to produce steady earnings growth — an expectation that some executives say leads to shortsighted management decisions.

As a public company, "you become sharper in some respects, but it also can cause you to make some decisions just so you can show growth from quarter to quarter," said Steve Berkowtiz, chief executive of Ask Jeeves, a Google rival and business partner.

But Google says it won't fall into that trap, striving to remain true to the vision of the iconoclastic Page and Brin, former Stanford University graduate students who founded the company in 1998. In one of its first rebellious steps, Google will refuse to project its earnings from quarter to quarter, according to the letter signed by Page and Brin.

"A management team distracted by a series of short-term targets is as pointless as a dieter stepping on a scale every half hour," they wrote.

Industry veterans, though, doubt Google will be able to buck Wall Street once it goes public.

"After the IPO, they're going to have to think in terms of predictable quarterly results and momentum," said Gordon Eubanks, who took software maker Symantec Corp. public in 1989 and now is CEO of Oblix, a security startup. "You have to have a level of predictability and experience to warrant being a public company."

To insulate themselves from outside pressure, Page and Brin are creating a two-class stock hierarchy designed to give them effective veto power. The company is selling Class A common stock to the public, but Page and Brin will control Class B stock, which will have 10 times the voting power.

The setup is similar to systems used by several major media companies and Berkshire Hathaway, run by stock market sage Warren Buffett.

The filing didn't spell out how large the founders' stakes will be after the offering, although they are listed as the company's largest individual shareholders. Both are expected to become billionaires after the IPO. Google paid each man $US356,556 in salary and bonuses last year.

The filing also emphasized that both Page, 31, and Brin, 30, intend to remain Google's hands-on leaders, making all key decisions with chief executive Eric Schmidt, a former top executive at Sun Microsystems Inc. and Novell Inc. who joined the company in 2001.

Google is already one of the world's best-known brands, with an online search engine that processes more than 200 million queries daily.

Despite its rapid success, Google faces an uncertain future as it tries to fend off stiffening competition from two much larger rivals, software giant Microsoft and Yahoo!, which runs the world's most popular website.

Through February, Google held a 35 per cent share of the search engine market, with Yahoo at 30 per cent and Microsoft's MSN at 15 per cent, according to comScore Networks, a research firm.

Buy, buy, buy....

Seoulstriker
04-30-2004, 09:28 PM
Yes, buy, buy buy! Increase the value of "my" stock options. p-) (doesn't everyone know someone from google? :P )

how do you think I got my Gmail account? :D



Google rocks. They are one of the most interesting companies with such incredible ideas that are truly successful. Just check out google.com, google groups, Froogle, Gmail, Orkut, Google images, etc. AdSense!!! Context based ads draw a ton of revenue.

(And people thinking they can short the stock: you can't. They set the terms that way.)

Uncle Sam
04-30-2004, 09:30 PM
Yes, buy, buy buy! Increase the value of "my" stock options. p-) (doesn't everyone know someone from google? :P )

how do you think I got my Gmail account? :D



Google rocks. They are one of the most interesting companies with such incredible ideas that are truly successful. Just check out google.com, google groups, Froogle, Gmail, Orkut, Google images, etc. AdSense!!! Context based ads draw a ton of revenue.

(And people thinking they can short the stock: you can't. They set the terms that way.)

You applied to test the beta version, duh !

Seoulstriker
04-30-2004, 09:36 PM
no, the Gmail beta is extremely closed. I managed to get an invite from a google employee, several of which I know.

Uncle Sam
04-30-2004, 09:59 PM
no, the Gmail beta is extremely closed. I managed to get an invite from a google employee, several of which I know.

oh

Seoulstriker
04-30-2004, 10:02 PM
Gmail rules. It's going to take over hotmail and yahoomail certainly. 1 gigabyte of email, context ads, incredible searching, labels, java interface. it's coming to take over the world. p-)

Fintin
05-01-2004, 01:13 AM
no, the Gmail beta is extremely closed. I managed to get an invite from a google employee, several of which I know.

translation...."my ***** is small"

Mr Gently Benevolent
05-01-2004, 04:14 AM
If this is not a deterrent to long term investors then I don't know what is.
But even as it prepared to dance with the Wall Street bankers who will take it public, Google warned investors that it won't take its marching orders from the markets
:|

Haiw
05-01-2004, 05:02 AM
no, the Gmail beta is extremely closed. I managed to get an invite from a google employee, several of which I know.
Err...it's not that closed, you just had to be quick to sign up. A friend of mine has an account as well.

Seoulstriker
05-01-2004, 11:48 AM
there was no signing up involved at all. it's invite only, and the number of invites is very limited. a few days ago, they expanded the beta by inviting active users of blogger.com. then those people got to invite more people.




If this is not a deterrent to long term investors then I don't know what is.

nooooo. That's excellent news! Google is extremely successful right now because the people in charge have a vision and they are carrying out that vision. They have the most successful search engine with no ads in the front page. Gmail is going to be incredibly successful, the successor of yahoomail and hotmail. Orkut is going to be an extremely successful social network. Everything else is successful because of the vision. Being led by investors is not a good way to run Google. The investors are in it for the profit, not as directors of the company.

Haiw
05-01-2004, 11:50 AM
there was no signing up involved at all. it's invite only, and the number of invites is very limited. a few days ago, they expanded the beta by inviting active users of blogger.com. then those people got to invite more people.
Are we talking about the same Google 1 GB accounts? Because within 1 or 2 days of the announcement apparently you could sign up because a buddy a mine has one and he ain't got jack **** to do with google.

Seoulstriker
05-01-2004, 12:00 PM
Trust me, there was no sign up at all. Did he get his account a few days ago? Does he use blogger.com?

Mr Gently Benevolent
05-01-2004, 12:10 PM
That's excellent news! Google is extremely successful right now because the people in charge have a vision and they are carrying out that vision. They have the most successful search engine with no ads in the front page. Gmail is going to be incredibly successful, the successor of yahoomail and hotmail. Orkut is going to be an extremely successful social network. Everything else is successful because of the vision. Being led by investors is not a good way to run Google. The investors are in it for the profit, not as directors of the company.

Okay lets expand on this a little more, they have stated that Google "won't take its marching orders from the markets" they also launch with a dual class share structure Class A shares carry 1 vote and Class B shares carry 10 votes!
Furthermore one of three independent directors announced in the prospectus is John Hennessy president of Stanford University who was Brin's academic advisor, not cool. Yes Seoulstrker, Google are strong on ethics but will be a poor bet for long term investors I can admire their stance on not bending to the whims of Wall Street but at the same time I think they are acting way to big for their boots.

Seoulstriker
05-01-2004, 12:13 PM
Hmmm. I see where the long-term investors would have trouble. From Google's perspective, they are doing everything to make themselves sucessful. I wonder what the selling period on the IPO is...

Mr Gently Benevolent
05-01-2004, 12:57 PM
I wonder what the selling period on the IPO is...
Dunno, all the details I have are from the net and the FT the S-1 was filed with the SEC on thursday so there is a 60? day wait before Google get the go ahead, what is interesting is that Google will be using an online auction!

Haiw
05-01-2004, 01:10 PM
Trust me, there was no sign up at all. Did he get his account a few days ago? Does he use blogger.com?
No he doesn't use blogger.com and no he didn't get it a few days ago. He got it right back at the start, 2 april or so.